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Offline Yuletine

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Re: 2020 Tracer 700
Reply #60 on: May 08, 2020, 11:14:56 AM
Not much wrong with the NC750 - a mate of mine had one and I have to say that I was nicely surprised when I had a go on it - very comfortable bike with a surprising turn of acceleration. It also goes around corners a lot faster and lower than you think it would - it carries its weight quite low down - the under seat fuel tank helps with that.  It also comes with a very handy cubby where the tank would normally be - what's not to like?  Put all of that into an adventure bike running chassis and it looks like a winner to me.

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Re: 2020 Tracer 700
Reply #61 on: May 08, 2020, 02:55:41 PM
It's nice but its lost the Adventure bike styling and back to a 17" front wheel?
That high kick up at the rear ..I doubt that will be classed as a potential adventure bike styling with that rear and seat setup.

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Re: 2020 Tracer 700
Reply #62 on: June 02, 2020, 07:31:57 PM
Well - just tested a CB650R and really dissapointed. Maybe my expectations was too high after all those positive reviews I read about. Did it thinking in a future CB650X but definitely don't consider it anymore as a replacement to my CB500X. Not bad bike but no my cup of tea. Here is my opinion:

- Engine. Very smooth power delivery. Even too smooth IMO - until 8000RPMs when it really starts to push. And it feels like Honda engineers tried to hide its excessive smoothness increasing the noise levels from airbox and exhaust. As result the engine makes a lot of bothering noise all the time but doesn't push - a sort of "much ado about nothing". Aslo there is high frequency buzz on pegs and bars - on all RMPs.

- Gearbox and clutch. Excelent. I like a lot the gear selection it has. And very light clutch lever.

- Suspension. Good fork but rear schock cries for aftermarket replacement. It has the same behaviour that OEM schock on CB500X - at high speed bumps it sents a solid kick to the ass. On smooth tarmac it's OKay but on smooth tarmac you don't need suspension. Really dissapointed with this issue.

- Riding position - not very comfy for me. I feel cramped with my 175 cm. The saddle is quite hard - maybe OK for 2 hour trip but not for day long route.

- Behaviour in corners. I feel it less flickable than CB500X. And not so solid as bigger bikes on fast sweepers.

Should I buy inline inline-four engine bike would prefer a second hand FZ6 S2. And then invest some money in fork cartridges and decent rear schock. Or Tenere 700 - another lovely bikie for everyday use.

Regarding CB650R - don't know what use is intended for. I think it's more oriented to short rides with good weather and commuting. But I'm doubtfull it will allow me to do long trips as CB500X does.

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Re: 2020 Tracer 700
Reply #63 on: June 02, 2020, 08:15:39 PM
May I suggest you try and get a demo on the BMW F900XR, beautiful bike. One I am seriously considering trading in my Tiger 800 for.

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Re: 2020 Tracer 700
Reply #64 on: June 02, 2020, 09:25:57 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
May I suggest you try and get a demo on the BMW F900XR, beautiful bike. One I am seriously considering trading in my Tiger 800 for.
Yes - it seems to be a great bike. But it's quite expensive for me - 10000 euros is my budget. Need to wait second hand units.

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Re: 2020 Tracer 700
Reply #65 on: June 03, 2020, 08:27:34 AM
And it's a BMW.  :008: :008: :008:
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Re: 2020 Tracer 700
Reply #66 on: June 03, 2020, 10:14:18 AM
*Originally Posted by timur [+]
Well - just tested a CB650R and really dissapointed. Maybe my expectations was too high after all those positive reviews I read about. Did it thinking in a future CB650X but definitely don't consider it anymore as a replacement to my CB500X. Not bad bike but no my cup of tea. Here is my opinion:

- Engine. Very smooth power delivery. Even too smooth IMO - until 8000RPMs when it really starts to push. And it feels like Honda engineers tried to hide its excessive smoothness increasing the noise levels from airbox and exhaust. As result the engine makes a lot of bothering noise all the time but doesn't push - a sort of "much ado about nothing". Aslo there is high frequency buzz on pegs and bars - on all RMPs.

- Gearbox and clutch. Excelent. I like a lot the gear selection it has. And very light clutch lever.

- Suspension. Good fork but rear schock cries for aftermarket replacement. It has the same behaviour that OEM schock on CB500X - at high speed bumps it sents a solid kick to the ass. On smooth tarmac it's OKay but on smooth tarmac you don't need suspension. Really dissapointed with this issue.

- Riding position - not very comfy for me. I feel cramped with my 175 cm. The saddle is quite hard - maybe OK for 2 hour trip but not for day long route.

- Behaviour in corners. I feel it less flickable than CB500X. And not so solid as bigger bikes on fast sweepers.

Should I buy inline inline-four engine bike would prefer a second hand FZ6 S2. And then invest some money in fork cartridges and decent rear schock. Or Tenere 700 - another lovely bikie for everyday use.

Regarding CB650R - don't know what use is intended for. I think it's more oriented to short rides with good weather and commuting. But I'm doubtfull it will allow me to do long trips as CB500X does.

Regard

 :763: quite like the look of cbr650f myself

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Re: 2020 Tracer 700
Reply #67 on: June 03, 2020, 10:55:17 AM
CB650R isn't a tourer, it's a café racer styled sports bike!!   :152:
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Re: 2020 Tracer 700
Reply #68 on: June 19, 2020, 09:00:24 AM
How about this CB650R rally custom created by a Portuguese Honda dealer?

https://www.morebikes.co.uk/news/69536/hondas-cb650r-rally-custom-inspired-by-hrcs-dakar-racers/
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Re: 2020 Tracer 700
Reply #69 on: June 19, 2020, 09:37:03 AM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
How about this CB650R rally custom created by a Portuguese Honda dealer?

https://www.morebikes.co.uk/news/69536/hondas-cb650r-rally-custom-inspired-by-hrcs-dakar-racers/
Inline four engine with Rally chasis - should be crazy thing to ride :005: Kinda postapocalypthic bike.

Regarding Tracer 700 - just reseved my test ride for next week.