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Title: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 06, 2018, 10:25:39 AM
Looks to have a few little changes, new dash at least hopefully its more readable  :002:

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on November 06, 2018, 10:38:47 AM
Finally - a gear indicator! That display looks quite cool, actually.

Slipper clutch too... is it needed?

I wish they'd given us an extra couple of litres of fuel, but the body shape looks pretty much the same as what we've got.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on November 06, 2018, 10:58:16 AM
Yeah, if it ain't broke don't fix it?

Quite nice new clocks, facelift to body panels and badging and a trimmed down front mudguard are about all I can see...….. I wonder if they've put better tyres on it!!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 06, 2018, 11:55:21 AM
I'm reading it has a 19" front wheel, very nice, this is one thing I wanted. Looks like they kept the good stuff and just improved the rest, nicely done Honda. Also it may have a bit more ground clearance.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on November 06, 2018, 12:06:10 PM
*Originally Posted by uku383 [+]
Finally - a gear indicator! That display looks quite cool, actually.

Slipper clutch too... is it needed?

I wish they'd given us an extra couple of litres of fuel, but the body shape looks pretty much the same as what we've got.

I wonder if they added the slipper clutch to save the shaft bearing? There have been numerous shaft bearings behind the clutch go out from hard use. This spans the CB line up, not just the X. Mine is starting to make a low pitch whine. My ear really picks up on since I've been off the bike for nearly two years.  :084:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 06, 2018, 12:15:18 PM
*Originally Posted by HerrDeacon [+]
I'm reading it has a 19" front wheel, very nice, this is one thing I wanted. Looks like they kept the good stuff and just improved the rest, nicely done Honda. Also it may have a bit more ground clearance.

Are there any writeups on it?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 06, 2018, 12:16:28 PM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Are there any writeups on it?

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/adventure/cb500x/overview.html
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 06, 2018, 12:20:43 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-cnbBTR3/0/51744ab6/L/i-cnbBTR3-L.jpg) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-smdjd9/i-cnbBTR3/A)

https://www.motorbikemag.es/ficha-tecnica/honda-cb500x-2019/

Translation:

The Honda CB500X 2019 is one of the simplest and most capable adventure bikes available to any driver. This model is very versatile, which is perfect for day-to-day activities and for weekend trips. Although it remains very similar to the previous model, this season comes with some news.

The evolution of this crossover has been very important this season. Its adventurous character is enhanced by its new aesthetic details, which make it sharper and more inspired by the Africa Twin. The tank is more integrated between the side panels, visually connecting the front and back. But it is not only aesthetic this change since the Honda CB500X has improved its aerodynamics by reducing the air pressure on the screen and the fairing. The profile of the seat is also thinner, which allows more movement on the bike and making the free height to the ground more accessible. Its maneuverability is also greater thanks to the 3º increase of the turning radius (38º). It also incorporates a new handlebar.

The suspensions have increased their travel 10 mm reaching now 150 mm in the adjustable fork in preload and behind it goes from 118 to 135 mm with a new monoshock that replaces the previous double suspension that offers 9 preload points. The front wheel has grown from 17 to 19 inches, which denotes its more traveler and adventurous approach.

The engine of the Honda CB500X 2019 remains in the maximum 35 kW for the A2 car, has improved its power performance and par 4% in the low and medium displacements, something that has been achieved by adjusting the intake, exhaust and distribution. We must mention the new double output silencer and the new anti-rebound clutch.

The instrumentation has improved thanks to the new LCD screen now with indications of up gear and gear indicator geared. On the instrumentation you can also place a GPS; for example. LED technology now also comes to the turn signals.

The Honda CB500X 2019 can be chosen from the colors Red Grand Prix Red, matt black Matt Gunpowder Black Metallic and pearl white Pearl Metalloid White.

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on November 06, 2018, 12:24:00 PM
 :232: I need a new X now.  :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 06, 2018, 12:27:02 PM
New dash and cockpit:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-VSxMnGt/0/514a6345/L/i-VSxMnGt-L.jpg) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-smdjd9/i-VSxMnGt/A)

Note. taller bar risers, and flatter bars - that should allow a wider range of aftermarket bars to be fitted.

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on November 06, 2018, 12:28:27 PM
*Originally Posted by JMo [+]
New dash and cockpit:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-VSxMnGt/0/514a6345/L/i-VSxMnGt-L.jpg) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-smdjd9/i-VSxMnGt/A)

Note. taller bar risers, and flatter bars - that should allow a wider range of aftermarket bars to be fitted.

Jx

It kind of feel S10-ish to me. Dunno why.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 06, 2018, 12:33:03 PM
Really like the white. The more I see the more I like, all the changes are ones I've been wanting (19" front rim, extra ground clearance, more travel, higher seat) plus in the pictures it looks nicer than my '14. Also glad they kept the majority of the bike the same. Don't think I'd sell my '14 to get it but its tempting.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 06, 2018, 12:40:15 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8rvDKDv/0/07d8c1a1/XL/i-8rvDKDv-XL.jpg) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-smdjd9/i-8rvDKDv/A)

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Marv_ on November 06, 2018, 01:22:14 PM
So how do I retro-fit that instrument display onto my 2017 bike? 😆

Looks like a nice little evolutionary step, overall 😎
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 06, 2018, 01:26:39 PM
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-N7PVvjD/0/5b1a8e12/L/i-N7PVvjD-L.png) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-smdjd9/i-N7PVvjD/A)

A few observations so far... it looks like Honda have addressed the droppy-outy chain adjusters on the new bike - although the swing-arm still appears to be a basic box-section [steel] item.

Also interesting that these ABS models show don't appear to have an ABS ring on the front wheel?

7 bolt disc rotor on the front, and a separate spider now too?

Foot-peg hangers and rests/controls appear to be carried over from the existing, so that position is unlikely to be improved.

Fat-bars are much straighter than the original ape-hangers on the previous generation, so it may mean the screen itself has been moved forward to retain the steering lock (they say it's actually slightly improved?!) - hopefully improving the buffeting some riders experience...

GPS mounting rail, small LED indicators and smaller beak are nice touches too.

And presumably in retaining the conventional forks and basic (not damping adjustable) suspension, the price ought to remain within a couple of hundred of the existing pricing... Good work Honda!

Jenny x
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 06, 2018, 01:48:35 PM
More observations...

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-x8Z6mmS/0/13ca1eb3/L/i-x8Z6mmS-L.jpg) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-smdjd9/i-x8Z6mmS/A)

The right had engine case has some new ribbing in it, although the layout remains the same.

New side panels appear to have additional intake vents for the air-box.

Shock linkage also appears to be different... as does the ABS pump housing...

You can also see how the sides of the seat have been chamfered/narrowed to improve comfort and help to get your feet down with the 20mm increase in seat-height. I trust this seat[pan] will retrofit to the older bikes too.

Jx

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Dukie on November 06, 2018, 01:56:18 PM
The influence of rally raid on Honda.

Hopefully  everything remains  compatable  and we will be able to buy
The longer  tractive shock and fork internals from rally raid  for the 2019 without the other stuff in the level two package. (Plus wheels)

The footpeg hanger is a new design/angle and rear fluid reservoir relocated above it not behind passenger footpeg.
Hopefully the angle is enough to make knees comfy
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 06, 2018, 02:16:56 PM
I like that Honda isn't going with radical changes on this bike.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 06, 2018, 02:21:54 PM
Damn I'm sold, love the new dash.

May have to look into getting one next spring/summer.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 06, 2018, 02:22:29 PM
*Originally Posted by Dukie [+]
The influence of rally raid on Honda.

Hopefully  everything remains  compatable  and we will be able to buy
The longer  tractive shock and fork internals from rally raid  for the 2019 without the other stuff in the level two package. (Plus wheels)

The footpeg hanger is a new design/angle and rear fluid reservoir relocated above it not behind passenger footpeg.
Hopefully the angle is enough to make knees comfy

Hi Dukie - yes you do wonder ;o)

There are a number of changes I've observed from just the photos (see above), particularly the rear linkage for example - but rest assured Rally-Raid will be getting their hands on a 2019 model just as soon as possible to see what revisions are likely to be required - and since the stock suspension remains unadjustable for damping, I'm confident there will be both a LEVEL 1 version plus a fully-adjustable longer travel (ie. a full 170mm each end and not just the 135/150mm of the 2019 model) LEVEL 2 suspension kit available in the new year.

As for the LEVEL 2 17/19" spoked wheel kit - yes, they ought to fit straight on now (as long as the axle diameters remain the same - although that would just require a bearing change if the diameter is slightly different) - and fortunately the Honda now comes with it's own 19" front fender, plus the Rally-Raid wheels already use a separate disc spider on the front wheel, so a 2019-on model option for the 7-bolt disc will be easy to incorporate.

As for the footrest hangers - they are still the same as the 2017-18 bikes, just the reservoir has been relocated:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-XrXDkm9/0/10a8c637/XL/i-XrXDkm9-XL.jpg) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-smdjd9/i-XrXDkm9/A)

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Dukie on November 06, 2018, 02:47:15 PM
Oh so even with the +10/+18mm travel front and rear of the 2019, the rally raid tractive shock will still provide more (and better) suspension travel?

With the. The BMW, cb500x 13-18 and new 19... Things are going to be full speed
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Trailrunner on November 06, 2018, 02:50:06 PM
I like it, Keep up the good work Honda. We all really appreciate what your team is doing to improve our next bike   :047:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 06, 2018, 02:55:06 PM
Would it be possible to leave the Rally Raid stuff out of this thread and just focus on the changes to the stock 2019 model? If Rally Raid want to offer products for this model they can talk about them in the Rally Raid section. I know inevitable comparisons will be made since the new bike has a 19" front wheel and more ground clearance but would be nice to have a focused discussion here for once without it being derailed.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 06, 2018, 03:03:49 PM
*Originally Posted by Dukie [+]
Oh so even with the +10/+18mm travel front and rear of the 2019, the rally raid tractive shock will still provide more (and better) suspension travel?

With the. The BMW, cb500x 13-18 and new 19... Things are going to be full speed

Hi Duke - until anyone gets to ride the 2019 bike we won't know if they've actually 'upgraded' the stock suspension fell/action at all, but other than the modest increase in travel (which at least ought to help the bike 'float' more in the middle of it's range) there is still no damping adjustment at either end, only preload - and only 5 stages rather than 9 on the rear shock according to the new spec-sheet.

It'll be a different shock, and there is every chance they will have also revised the fork springs (again) from the original 2013-15 bikes - but whether they've added any shim/valving to the forks (and I doubt it) remains to be seen...

It could well prove enough for some people I'm sure - however, what Rally-Raid will do is offer a damping adjustable and remote-preload shock in standard travel length, plus a version of their longer-travel (170mm) LEVEL 2 set-up for people who want even better off-road performance.

Regardless of any suspension upgrades, I think what is going to most impress about this new model is how it rides on a 19" front compared to the original 17" front wheel - it ought to feel far more sure-footed both on and off-road.

Jx

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 06, 2018, 03:06:15 PM
*Originally Posted by HerrDeacon [+]
Would it be possible to leave the Rally Raid stuff out of this thread and just focus on the changes to the stock 2019 model? If Rally Raid want to offer products for this model they can talk about them in the Rally Raid section. I know inevitable comparisons will be made since the new bike has a 19" front wheel and more ground clearance but would be nice to have a focused discussion here for once without it being derailed.

I agree - everyone knows where that section is... however, Dukie is asking a specific question to how the new bike might compare.

As I say, for many people I imagine these new OEM specs will be sufficient - and that fundamentally it is the front wheel size (and mild geometry changes) that ought to be immediately obvious.

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Dukie on November 06, 2018, 04:03:42 PM
Thanks for the info know..

Very worthwhile upgrades and I'm looking forward to a test ride in February,
I like the styling but not the cowl around the radiator which I think ruins the line
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: pmason0 on November 06, 2018, 04:04:35 PM
Should of figured this would happen, nice looking bike, but I just bought a lightly used 2014 two weeks ago and ordered the Rally Raid kit. Hopefully no regrets.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 06, 2018, 04:31:22 PM

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 06, 2018, 05:01:29 PM
Nice find, JMo. I am loving the updates they've done to the 2019, well done Honda. LED indicators too! and what looks like a bar for a sat nav, just needs a 12 volt socket now!

Curses, I can't believe I am seriously thinking about swapping out my MT09 Tracer for one.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 06, 2018, 05:05:42 PM
Yes, I noticed in the video above that [following on from my initial observations] the bike does have a front ABS sensor ring after all, it's just much smaller than before and painted black - similar to the one on the Grom and Monkey ABS I imagine.

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 06, 2018, 05:07:39 PM
Yes I noticed that too, a lot better than the previous model.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 06, 2018, 05:14:17 PM
When will these be available?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Dukie on November 06, 2018, 05:43:52 PM
London dealer said available from February 2019.
There is a Honda meeting November 17th where he will ask about pricing for me.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lattugo on November 06, 2018, 05:54:54 PM
A lot of improvement, there.
Well done, Honda.

Looking forward to reviews.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 06, 2018, 05:57:42 PM
How exactly does a larger front wheel effect handling?

I've always thought it looks a little odd having a larger wheel at the front, on the V Strom for example.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Mence on November 06, 2018, 06:47:58 PM
I like it.

Wonder how many parts will retrofit?  :001:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: UKJeeper on November 06, 2018, 06:49:30 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
and what looks like a bar for a sat nav, just needs a 12 volt socket now!



The video walkaround, that JMo posted, seems to show a placeholder for a 12v/usb socket. Left side of the fairing?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Susi_X on November 06, 2018, 07:03:17 PM
useful upgrade with reasonable improvements, really great.
thx Honda
 :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Perfictsib on November 06, 2018, 07:28:07 PM
Anyone notice the air vents where the inner trim panels are on ours just in front of the dash and there what look like air ducts either side of the headlight maybe that's how they reduced the air pressure on the screen.
New Dunlop tyres
Not keen on the front end/radiator shroud but the rest is ok,
I do though like the new top triple tree and handlebars.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 06, 2018, 07:30:22 PM

Have to say, that dash display looks really nice and chunky for my long sighted eyes.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: catstevecam on November 06, 2018, 07:32:25 PM
not only do the 19in front wheel and raised handlebar clamp look very promising - there is the distinct possibility of some 2018 models being discounted to clear old stock - lucky for some  :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 06, 2018, 07:38:25 PM
*Originally Posted by Perfictsib [+]
Anyone notice the air vents where the inner trim panels are on ours just in front of the dash and there what look like air ducts either side of the headlight maybe that's how they reduced the air pressure on the screen.
New Dunlop tyres
Not keen on the front end/radiator shroud but the rest is ok,
I do though like the new top triple tree and handlebars.

Yes I noticed the vents, front end is ok though I prefer the previous model for that. I don't like the front mudguard much though, I liked the chunkier looking one on my 2017 that extends down the fork lowers.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Markdarren on November 06, 2018, 07:59:33 PM
A longer beak, taller screen and back to having a belly pan please MR Honda, then it's perfect.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 06, 2018, 08:00:37 PM
Yeah would have been nice to see the belly pan come back.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Perfictsib on November 06, 2018, 08:08:18 PM
Or even a engine guard now they are making it more of an adventure bike with the bigger front wheel and more suspension travel.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 06, 2018, 08:34:03 PM
*Originally Posted by UKJeeper [+]
The video walkaround, that JMo posted, seems to show a placeholder for a 12v/usb socket. Left side of the fairing?

Good catch! I just saw that in the video Applecorp posted too... a blanking plug the right size for a round socket. Nice one Honda!

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Markdarren on November 06, 2018, 08:42:20 PM
The new gauge screen looks excellent, hope someone/company comes up with a retrospective to fit the 2016 !!!!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lattugo on November 06, 2018, 08:46:18 PM
Appreciate the temp gauge in the new dashboard.

I just hope it is a proper gauge, not a mere overheat indicator, though. It is not very clear (at least to me) from the pics.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on November 06, 2018, 09:31:20 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]

At 0:26s when the camera is behind the bike it seems to me that the clutch cover got fatter than the current quite a bit. I guess it is due the slipper clutch
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: vanderbale on November 06, 2018, 10:00:04 PM

I'm digging the improved front panels  :082:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: nbsdave on November 06, 2018, 10:31:11 PM
I like the look.
The small front ABS ring looks better too. And the relocated rear brake fluid reservoir is a nice touch.
Now if only you could get to the radiator cap without removing the plastic.
I almost (but not quite) wish I had waited instead of getting my '18.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on November 06, 2018, 10:39:19 PM
I like the venting on the front...be interesting to see how much of an improvement this makes as this was a beef for many owners. Still gone with Walmart suspension despite the lift. I'm surprised they haven't done two models, an A2 compliant with mags and a 50KW, same height with spokes and tweakable suspenders...would be more expensive but what a peach that would be?

That chamfered seat has my name on it, if it's cheaper than getting mine done... :047:

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 06, 2018, 11:16:50 PM
*Originally Posted by Jonathan [+]
I like the venting on the front...be interesting to see how much of an improvement this makes as this was a beef for many owners. Still gone with Walmart suspension despite the lift. I'm surprised they haven't done two models, an A2 compliant with mags and a 50KW, same height with spokes and tweakable suspenders...would be more expensive but what a peach that would be?

That chamfered seat has my name on it, if it's cheaper than getting mine done... :047:

I'm guessing that it's because the CB500X isn't really all that popular of a bike. Also, there might be a baby brother Africa Twin in the works, so they might now want to have too much overlap.  Just my .02
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: 303 on November 07, 2018, 01:34:19 AM
good to see Honda has people reading the forums and listening to what people are asking for.

Looks good. I'd like to see how that larger front wheel feels. how is the geometry changed to accommodate that?

Dash is a nice upgrade. Nothing wrong with the old one, except the unreadable gear indicator  :016:

Slipper clutch... Gearbox is pretty forgiving as is, for ham fist tards like me but anyway .... yes please.

An even more recommendable bike for any level rider.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Ponzan on November 07, 2018, 01:54:35 AM
nice changes, seems Honda is listening how to make us thinking towards renewing  :038:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 07, 2018, 02:46:06 AM
*Originally Posted by 303 [+]
good to see Honda has people reading the forums and listening to what people are asking for.

Looks good. I'd like to see how that larger front wheel feels. how is the geometry changed to accommodate that?

Dash is a nice upgrade. Nothing wrong with the old one, except the unreadable gear indicator  :016:

Slipper clutch... Gearbox is pretty forgiving as is, for ham fist tards like me but anyway .... yes please.

An even more recommendable bike for any level rider.

Agreed about the gearbox. There has been a lot of talk about some bikes having clunky gearboxes. Even when going into first from a stop on my 2013, the bike never clunks or makes those gawd awful sounds like my old HD or even my newer Triumphs did. The 2006 DL650 also had some agricultural level shifting. The transmission on my Honda is super smooth.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 07, 2018, 09:44:20 AM
Some nice nice large downloadable pictures of the new 2019 bike in red here (I've already robbed them ;o)

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2018/11/honda-announces-revisions-to-popular-cb500x-for-2019/

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-Lw4WsKx/0/c2679ed5/XL/i-Lw4WsKx-XL.jpg) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-smdjd9/i-Lw4WsKx/A)

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-tTpW9Xb/0/5a7c1809/XL/i-tTpW9Xb-XL.jpg) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-smdjd9/i-tTpW9Xb/A)

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-BcQGBg2/0/7e9c5c92/XL/i-BcQGBg2-XL.jpg) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-smdjd9/i-BcQGBg2/A)
photo. re the conversation above, you can see the clutch cover is slightly deeper on the new bike - to contain the slipper clutch assembly presumably...

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on November 07, 2018, 09:53:02 AM
It's a good looking bike and I don't think it makes our bikes look too obviously the 'old model'!

I'm liking the slim LED indicators instead of the original (horrible) big blobby ones, adding a gear indicator and temperature info is good news (although I quite like the original faired in instrument panel shape, and even the tinted glass, I know I may be alone in that), don't care about the 19" front wheel or lack of a belly pan, mine's a road bike anyway.  :001:

Looks like the same crappy Dunlop tyres..... :023:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on November 07, 2018, 11:02:05 AM
*Originally Posted by JMo [+]
Some nice nice large downloadable pictures of the new 2019 bike in red here (I've already robbed them ;o)

Right, I've got to say it. I'm sitting here at the pub with a beer after work, and looking at that bike all I can think of is two adjectives:

Dang it, my bike was clean once. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on November 07, 2018, 11:07:45 AM
Basic description and a couple of photos on Bennetts Bike Social website - https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/news-and-views/news/2018/blank-folder-keep-empty/honda-2019-cb650r-cbr650r-cb500x-cbr500r-eicma-show
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB500X on November 07, 2018, 11:59:05 AM
Looks good. I'd like to see how that larger front wheel feels. how is the geometry changed to accommodate that?

+1

Fine if you use it off road occasionally, but for those that use it exclusively on tarmac, and lets admit it many people do, then that sounds a bit strange to me ?? Would be good to have both wheel size options IMO but I guess thats not possible if the geometry has some changes as well.

Need to ride it I guess... !  :001:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 07, 2018, 12:20:45 PM
*Originally Posted by CB500X [+]
+1

Fine if you use it off road occasionally, but for those that use it exclusively on tarmac, and lets admit it many people do, then that sounds a bit strange to me ?? Would be good to have both wheel size options IMO but I guess thats not possible if the geometry has some changes as well.

Need to ride it I guess... !  :001:

Hi CB' - having ridden the CB with both 17" and 19" front wheels a lot (as I'm sure you know ;o), I can tell you the larger diameter front wheel is not going to be detrimental to the overall handling of the CB at all - in fact I'd suggest for the kind of [road] riding most people do on this style of bike (ie. relaxed touring and general commuting - not head-down-arse-up hooning), then bike will actually feel more stable and composed than it does with the current 17" front end.

There is nothing wrong with the 17" front on the current models, but it does tend to 'drop in' to corners like a sports bike or supermoto, which to some people can feel at odds with the otherwise more upright seating position?

If you consider that ADV bikes like the V-strom and pretty much every BMW GS has a 17/19" wheel combo and are used almost exclusively on the highway - you don't hear anyone complaining the handling is not up to par on those bikes...

These days there are plenty of road-orientated sport-touring tread pattern tyres along with a wider range of all-terrain tyres available in 19" front sizes... so the only thing you might now miss out on is fitting really sticky 'track-day' style 17" street rubber - but again, if that is your intention, then I'd suggest the X is probably not the ideal bike in the first place?

Personally I think this bike is going to rail on those new wheels!

Jenny x

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: SnowOwl on November 07, 2018, 03:52:00 PM
"Borrowed" this from McMann over on ADV.  He got it from Hondanews.com :

2019 Updates

• Engine refinements for an increase in overall power, including 3 to 4% more torque from 3,000 to 7,000 rpm.
• Fuel-injector spray narrowed, fuel-droplet size optimized for improved spray penetration in intake. Improves combustion and therefore creates more linear power from first crack of the throttle through to rpm redline.
• Smaller battery, repositioning of components enable increased air-intake volume and addition of filter element in tract below headlights. Straighter velocity stacks and reshaped separators between the cylinders make for decreased turbulence, resulting in improved power at every rpm.
• New valve timing increases torque and improves roll-on response.
• New crank-sensor system with over 2.5 times more-frequent crank-position readings and model-specific fuel-injection settings allow more linear power delivery, with emphasis on low- and midrange power and more precise throttle response.
• New muffler with increased volume before and after catalytic converter. Backpressure optimized for improved low-end and midrange power. New dual-outlet muffler tip makes exhaust note racier-sounding to match new power.
• New transmission gear-dog design is more precise for more accurate, sure shifting action.
• New slipper clutch design adapts to load stresses for increased hook-up under heavy acceleration and reduced engine braking under downshifting.
• New clutch design, with the same engineering found in the CBR1000RR, decreases lever pull by 45%, especially helpful in stop-and-go traffic. Lever shape improved as well.
• Larger, 19” front wheel for better bump absorption, improved high-speed handling.
• Steering caster angle slackened by 1 degree (now 27.5 degrees) for improved handling.
• New front and rear tire design with deep-grooved tread.
• New shock with advanced pressure-separation design from Honda’s large sport models is more stable and predictable for improved rear-wheel tracking and traction.
• Increased suspension travel (up .4 in. in front, 1.2 in. rear) for improved performance through stroke, reduced bottoming and increased ground clearance.
• On ABS version, upgraded modulators improve precision during ABS engagement.
• Revised hydraulic ratio in rear brake, combined with ABS, achieve improved brake modulation in low-traction situations.
• Lighter seat rails for improved mass centralization and better handling.
• New, full-featured display has larger screen and thinner bezel, includes new upshift indicator that can be set to different rpm settings.
• Turning radius reduced by nearly 8 inches for easier maneuvering.
• Windscreen is 20mm taller for great wind protection during high-speed cruising.
• Seat narrowed above pegs to aid touching feet to ground at stops.
• New tapered handlebar improves feedback, control and style, while new rubber-mounted handlebar clamp minimizes vibration to rider’s hands.
• More aggressive adventure styling with new fuel tank, radiator shroud, headlight, clear taillight lens and new LED turn signals. New shroud design helps direct radiator heat away from rider’s legs.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 07, 2018, 04:02:10 PM
Hmm, I hope we get this special edition here. Crash bars, fog lights and 12 volt output.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 07, 2018, 04:16:27 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Hmm, I hope we get this special edition here. Crash bars, fog lights and 12 volt output.

I'd say those are all official Honda Accessories, fitted to the show bike. I'm sure they'll be in the UK catalogue too.

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: vanderbale on November 07, 2018, 05:17:53 PM
*Originally Posted by Jonathan [+]
That chamfered seat has my name on it, if it's cheaper than getting mine done... :047:

I was thinking that also, if this seat will go onto my 2016 then I can finally get rid of the silly comfort cushion I've added on top.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: macamxthe1st on November 07, 2018, 05:36:19 PM
I am/was really fancying another "X" next year but I fear the 10mm seat height may preclude it for me, I appreciate that the seat has been narrowed to compensate but as I had the seat of my last "X" shaved to accommodate me it may well be a deal breaker. Bugger. I really miss the "X".

Geoff.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: hamamelis on November 07, 2018, 06:06:29 PM
Gonna say it again here since I said it in the ADVRider thread, but:

This 2019 bike is a "Transalp" sticker away from being a Honda factory Transalp for the 21st century.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 07, 2018, 06:22:35 PM
Looks like a lot of nice little refinements. Thanks @SnowOwl
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 07, 2018, 06:39:41 PM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Looks like a lot of nice little refinements. Thanks @SnowOwl

Indeed, I was considering getting another 500X next year but this new version makes the decision swing much closer towards a purchase.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on November 07, 2018, 06:46:18 PM
*Originally Posted by macamxthe1st [+]
I am/was really fancying another "X" next year but I fear the 10mm seat height may preclude it for me, I appreciate that the seat has been narrowed to compensate but as I had the seat of my last "X" shaved to accommodate me it may well be a deal breaker. Bugger. I really miss the "X".  Geoff.

Hmmmm, are they moving away from the real 'mostly a road bike' market?  I wonder what percentage really need the 'off road' refinements...….or do most 500X's, like SUV's, spend their time on tarmac and just get bought for the adventure looks and comfort.....  :084:

Admittedly, this forum may err on the 'I ride off road' side!!  Time for a vote. :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: hamamelis on November 07, 2018, 07:00:24 PM
ADV inmate mcmann took my gag and ran with it:
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.imgur.com/0OhiAFm.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Susi_X on November 07, 2018, 07:25:15 PM
*Originally Posted by SnowOwl [+]
"Borrowed" this from McMann over on ADV.  He got it from Hondanews.com :

2019 Updates
...
what's not mentioned here is the big improvement at the swing arm and the chain tensioner, looks really high class
here at 0:45:


very curious about the new prices with this upgrades...  :084:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 07, 2018, 07:30:17 PM
I reckon £6000 for this in the UK.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: lesmeister on November 07, 2018, 07:45:09 PM
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/Happy.jpg)
Have a 2015 & 2016, looks like the 2015 will be finding a new home.
👍🏍
Two big questions: How much, & when?
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/SC-Decal.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: macamxthe1st on November 07, 2018, 07:46:13 PM
I reckon that’s about spot on.

Geoff.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 07, 2018, 10:36:45 PM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
Hmmmm, are they moving away from the real 'mostly a road bike' market?  I wonder what percentage really need the 'off road' refinements...….or do most 500X's, like SUV's, spend their time on tarmac and just get bought for the adventure looks and comfort.....  :084:

Admittedly, this forum may err on the 'I ride off road' side!!  Time for a vote. :008:

Very good question. My bike is shod with some 50/50 knobbies and while it looks the part, admittedly the bike will be 95% on road. I ordered a set of TKC70s for this reason. Hoping to get out into the dirt more often, but in reality it's a street bike for me. Now, the idea is to make a big tourer for the rest of Central and South America, which means dirt, someday.  :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Dukie on November 07, 2018, 10:38:00 PM
The 2018 has crept up to 5959. Will be hard not to go higher. Weak pound won't help

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 07, 2018, 10:45:59 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Indeed, I was considering getting another 500X next year but this new version makes the decision swing much closer towards a purchase.

We all knew you'd be back, but I think it's fair to say that you never left.  :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on November 08, 2018, 12:59:27 AM
US guys, bookmark this page and check it frequently.  :169:
http://powersports.honda.com/2019/cb500x.aspx

 I used to think I missed out by not holding off till 2016. Now I know I should have held off till 2019.  :138:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on November 08, 2018, 02:27:57 AM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I used to think I missed out by not holding off till 2016. Now I know I should have held off till 2019.  :138:

When I started work here in 2015 one of the guys was telling me how he was a very keen rider, but didn't then have a bike, as he'd sold it due to some (by then resolved) health issues. He's a mad ZX-14 fan, and said that he was waiting for the new series to be released. He refused to buy a bike to get him through the wait, not even a second hand ZX-14.

He's still waiting. I'm still riding.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 08, 2018, 02:57:21 AM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
US guys, bookmark this page and check it frequently.  :169:
http://powersports.honda.com/2019/cb500x.aspx

 I used to think I missed out by not holding off till 2016. Now I know I should have held off till 2019.  :138:

*Originally Posted by uku383 [+]
When I started work here in 2015 one of the guys was telling me how he was a very keen rider, but didn't then have a bike, as he'd sold it due to some (by then resolved) health issues. He's a mad ZX-14 fan, and said that he was waiting for the new series to be released. He refused to buy a bike to get him through the wait, not even a second hand ZX-14.

He's still waiting. I'm still riding.

 :0461: Having just bought my 2013 this year, I had the same thought for just a split-second. Then I twisted the throttle and smiled ear to ear. I'm glad I didn't wait. Maybe in a few years I'll trade up. For now my '13 RR L1 will do just fine.   :018:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: hamamelis on November 08, 2018, 07:23:18 AM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
:0461: Having just bought my 2013 this year, I had the same thought for just a split-second. Then I twisted the throttle and smiled ear to ear. I'm glad I didn't wait. Maybe in a few years I'll trade up. For now my '13 RR L1 will do just fine.   :018:
Yup, barring a miraculous deal on a '16-18 model, I have my sights set on a very particular farkled-out '15 in my area of the USA once I return from east Africa (which may be sooner than I'd planned due to visa issues...). It'll be my mid-weight learner bike, so I can afford to mis-shift and drop it a few times rather than a showroom-fresh '19 eh. It'll still be infinitely nicer fit and finish than my absolute rat rod of a '64 Super Cub was
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: glencoeman on November 08, 2018, 08:58:18 AM
It looks like a lot of improvements for the 2019 model - the only downside is the higher seat height which at 830mm is 20mm higher than the current model. I doubt that Honda will list a centre stand as an optional extra on the new model either.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on November 08, 2018, 09:26:45 AM
*Originally Posted by glencoeman [+]
I doubt that Honda will list a centre stand as an optional extra on the new model either.

May I ask why you think that? It's another way for them to make a buck, after all.

If you think this because of the increase in seat height, I'm pretty sure that they offer one for the Africa Twin (and there are after-market versions), so I don't think that would be a problem.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mtodd on November 08, 2018, 10:00:45 AM
*Originally Posted by pmason0 [+]
Should of figured this would happen, nice looking bike, but I just bought a lightly used 2014 two weeks ago and ordered the Rally Raid kit. Hopefully no regrets.

I hear ya. I bought a new 2018 last Friday. I had been researching the bike for a long time, was hoping to see what the new colours would be at the bike show in Australia at the end of this month. I was then told by Honda Australia that they aren’t going to be at the Melbourne show. I then had a chat with the sales guy who said all the new Honda models have been announced for this year already and that any new releases are likely to be a wile away.

I’m felling rather terrible right now!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Perfictsib on November 08, 2018, 01:02:12 PM
If you look closely there's what looks like a centre stand on the kitted out one
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mrklunk on November 08, 2018, 01:36:10 PM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
Hmmmm, are they moving away from the real 'mostly a road bike' market?  I wonder what percentage really need the 'off road' refinements...….or do most 500X's, like SUV's, spend their time on tarmac and just get bought for the adventure looks and comfort.....  :084:

Admittedly, this forum may err on the 'I ride off road' side!!  Time for a vote. :008:

I'm 100% road like you Alex so the 19" wheel means nothing to me. And yes I heard it will still come with crap tyres. Love the new clocks but other than that I'm happy to keep my year old model for a while.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 08, 2018, 04:30:22 PM
*Originally Posted by mrklunk [+]
I'm 100% road like you Alex so the 19" wheel means nothing to me. And yes I heard it will still come with crap tyres. Love the new clocks but other than that I'm happy to keep my year old model for a while.

Given my sampling of the X, a first year, first gen, I find it to be a fantastic motorcycle altogether. I would be happy to own any model year. Having bought my bike with an aftermarket suspension already installed probably helped a bit in terms of satisfaction, but even outside of the suspenders, it's a great machine.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on November 08, 2018, 04:32:54 PM
*Originally Posted by mtodd [+]
I hear ya. I bought a new 2018 last Friday. I had been researching the bike for a long time, was hoping to see what the new colours would be at the bike show in Australia at the end of this month. I was then told by Honda Australia that they aren’t going to be at the Melbourne show. I then had a chat with the sales guy who said all the new Honda models have been announced for this year already and that any new releases are likely to be a wile away.

I’m felling rather terrible right now!

I wouldn't be too disheartened. The 2018 is a pretty refined bike compared to the original X, which itself wasn't a bad bike to start with. On paper the 2019 looks to be much improved, but in real terms I imagine you'd be hard pressed to feel much difference between the two. You're still looking at a mid-powered adv style road bike with budget suspension, when all's said and done (without wishing to sound too disparaging)...in some ways, you're better off buying an earlier model and putting the cash saved where it's actually needed, ie better tyres and suspension. Increased ride height doesn't necessarily equate to better ride quality, either. Now if they'd upped the output to 70HP and but better brakes on it, and I'd just been persuaded to buy a 50HP because the dealer wanted to shift old stock....I'd be similarly aggrieved...

and it still feels more nimble than a V strom
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mtodd on November 08, 2018, 08:02:28 PM
*Originally Posted by Jonathan [+]
I wouldn't be too disheartened. The 2018 is a pretty refined bike compared to the original X, which itself wasn't a bad bike to start with. On paper the 2019 looks to be much improved, but in real terms I imagine you'd be hard pressed to feel much difference between the two. You're still looking at a mid-powered adv style road bike with budget suspension, when all's said and done (without wishing to sound too disparaging)...in some ways, you're better off buying an earlier model and putting the cash saved where it's actually needed, ie better tyres and suspension. Increased ride height doesn't necessarily equate to better ride quality, either. Now if they'd upped the output to 70HP and but better brakes on it, and I'd just been persuaded to buy a 50HP because the dealer wanted to shift old stock....I'd be similarly aggrieved...

and it still feels more nimble than a V strom

Yeah you’re right Jonathon. I went for a bit of a ride last night, the weather was great and the bike feels great so I’m happy.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Revoflyer on November 09, 2018, 01:01:31 AM
I am one that has been holding out a bit - so now it will be a discounted 2017/2018 or a new 2019 - lets see what the price spread ends up being and if the dealers are willing to let old inventory go at a good discount.

The marketing department sure know how to make the upgrades look like the bikes is significantly redesigned, but having played these games many times over the years - I doubt that one model would feel much better, faster more comfortable or capable than the other, it is usually just small tweaks, with the only "real" change being the larger front. Since I'll be 90% asphalt with a fire road once in a while I can go either way.

Just curious if it was you - what percentage would you pay extra for the 2019 model.  5 - 10 - 20 - 30% more than what you could have a new stock 2017/18 for ?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 09, 2018, 01:21:05 AM
*Originally Posted by Revoflyer [+]
I am one that has been holding out a bit - so now it will be a discounted 2017/2018 or a new 2019 - lets see what the price spread ends up being and if the dealers are willing to let old inventory go at a good discount.

The marketing department sure know how to make the upgrades look like the bikes is significantly redesigned, but having played these games many times over the years - I doubt that one model would feel much better, faster more comfortable or capable than the other, it is usually just small tweaks, with the only "real" change being the larger front. Since I'll be 90% asphalt with a fire road once in a while I can go either way.

Just curious if it was you - what percentage would you pay extra for the 2019 model.  5 - 10 - 20 - 30% more than what you could have a new stock 2017/18 for ?

Two items that I would be curious to feel on the new bike would be the fueling, which I find is already nice on my 2013 anyway, and the reduced clutch effort, which of all of the updates would probably be the most noticable.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: 303 on November 09, 2018, 01:32:45 AM
@Revoflyer here in Aus the price increase on new versions of the X was about 8%. Poor maths ... it's 7.5% but +$600 on $8000 for a 2017 model. So RRP/MSRP = $8600.00.

If IIRC 2015 was the 2nd Gen and prices IIRC were about $7500. Then I think we saw $7990 a year later. Then I recall is was about $8400 for some time. I might have the years +1 what they actually were but I think the dollar increases are about right.

After writing the above I think it varied somewhere between 6% and 8%. Perhaps 8% on new version in 2016, 6% in between. In my case the dealer discounted that price increase.

AUD to USD is 1.0/0.75 on a good day... which it isn't today.

I wouldn't be disappointed with any X. I was going to buy previous year but the run out sale was huge success and all gone in no time. in 2 weeks or something stupid. I had less to spend on farkles. Still saving (again) for some more. But no regrets.

Lesson: Don't procrastinate. Decide. Commit. Enjoy.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: gavmac on November 09, 2018, 01:36:07 AM
I looked yesterday at hondampe.com.au & the list price is au$7699 + on road costs, I wanted to see what the rise is when the 2019 arrives.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: 303 on November 09, 2018, 02:05:34 AM
*Originally Posted by gavmac [+]
I looked yesterday at hondampe.com.au & the list price is au$7699 + on road costs, I wanted to see what the rise is when the 2019 arrives.

Yep thats about right. ORC vary a bit by state. $8611 in WA.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: lesmeister on November 09, 2018, 12:02:27 PM
After checking all of the various sites with info about the 2019 CB500x, I've compiled all of the features/changes currently posted, see the attached '.pdf' document.  There were a few confusing statements about the front suspension travel.  After doing some research, it appears the '19 model will have .2"/5mm less travel, from 5.5"/140mm to 5.3"/135mm, than previous years.  We will just have to wait to find out if there have been any internal improvements to offset the loss.

Lots of good stuff on the 2019, would like a bit more power and/or less weight, but while not my perfect ride, it's close enough for me to place a deposit with my dealer to get one.

Now, if anyone wants a nice 2015.............lesmeister 😎
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Mister Paul on November 09, 2018, 12:53:15 PM
The 2019 bike is more than the refreshes that they do on bikes after a couple of years, and more than the changes that have been made since the bike first came out. So I'll put my money on Honda taking the opportunity for more than a small price hike, if you look at how their new bike prices have grown recently. Which will be a shame.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 09, 2018, 01:08:48 PM
*Originally Posted by lesmeister [+]
After checking all of the various sites with info about the 2019 CB500x, I've compiled all of the features/changes currently posted, see the attached '.pdf' document.  There were a few confusing statements about the front suspension travel.  After doing some research, it appears the '19 model will have .2"/5mm less travel, from 5.5"/140mm to 5.3"/135mm, than previous years.  We will just have to wait to find out if there have been any internal improvements to offset the loss.

Lots of good stuff on the 2019, would like a bit more power and/or less weight, but while not my perfect ride, it's close enough for me to place a deposit with my dealer to get one.

Now, if anyone wants a nice 2015.............lesmeister 😎

fwiw. Based on what I know about pulling these bikes apart (a lot ;o) - I'd say that the suspension figures that have been offered are indeed more likely to be the increase in the rear, and the slight reduction in the front... as Lesmeister has posted above.

Not only as it appears there is not much more (if any) stanchion showing on the front of the 2019 bike, but if you add a 19" front wheel, you immediately raise the front at least 25mm (the extra inch radius).

Therefore to balance the bike out (and keep approximately the same rake and trail - although the 2019 does have a 1° more relaxed fork rake according to the specs), you also need to raise the rear end, which always had less travel than the front did anyway... hence the increase there*

*If the figures are correct, the +31mm would compensate for the larger diameter front wheel, plus slightly taller tyre profile too.


I also imagine that while the new top-triple clamp appears to have a mild step in it, I know from experience that without dropping the legs overall by 20mm, you are in danger of the front 19" fender touching the radiator at full compression.

Therefore [and this is speculative until I've had a chance to pull the 2019 model front end apart], I imagine there has been a slight decrease in front travel - in the form of an internal bump stop - in combination to the modest drop on the new top triple-clamp - to ensure the fender does not hit the radiator.

Together with the slightly revised seat foam, that would equate to the 20mm increase in seat height, rather than any more...

Jenny x

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 09, 2018, 04:57:30 PM
Honda Canada just put out this quick video on the new model.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lattugo on November 09, 2018, 06:30:06 PM
*Originally Posted by HerrDeacon [+]
Honda Canada just put out this quick video on the new model.

Thanks for posting.

This clip answers my question about the temp gauge, it is a proper gauge with led segments showing the temp level.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on November 09, 2018, 07:50:41 PM
The new linkage looks like the one that is used on the NC series models.
Which is good as the shock bottom will not touch the dogbone as before, but definitely needs some thoughts to keep the 170mm rear suspension travel as on the current L2 bikes.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Revoflyer on November 09, 2018, 08:06:22 PM
Great video from Honda Canada - OK if the price increase is 10% or less, I am down with the 2019, thinking that resale value instantly get kicked up as well. 
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 10, 2018, 03:37:34 PM
All of this is nice to see, but if they haven't solved the wind buffeting problem I'd say it's a huge miss? Fingers crossed for future riders that they have.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 10, 2018, 04:28:09 PM
Well, they've only increased screen height by 20mm so that won't make much difference. As with my (deceased) 500X I'd just put the cheap ebay screen extension/spoiler on if I were to get the 2019 model, worked a charm for me before.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 10, 2018, 04:34:35 PM
The height isn't really the problem (I've got the Madstad, it's not helped much) in my opinion, it's how the airflow is managed. I wouldn't have thought they'd need a massive screen to resolve that issue. Sounds like the frontal area has had significant changes so it may be better.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on November 10, 2018, 05:44:49 PM
*Originally Posted by mother-goose [+]
The height isn't really the problem (I've got the Madstad, it's not helped much) in my opinion, it's how the airflow is managed. I wouldn't have thought they'd need a massive screen to resolve that issue. Sounds like the frontal area has had significant changes so it may be better.

Did you install the winglets over the middle cowl? I've ridden behind a Madstad on a CB-X. I was impressed at how nicely the wind flowed around and over my body and helmet. I think the screen was the 18-inch model. It wasn't overly large but was a bit wider than my 118Bikes windscreen, it the same as the Givi, but dark tint polycarbonate.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on November 10, 2018, 06:14:41 PM
I'm struggling to see why the Honda techs thought the X was in need of a slipper clutch, to be honest, unless they have a power upgrade in mind for the future. Maybe the off roadies can chip in as to the benefits.... :027:

Mind you, I don't envisage riding my X that hard off-piste to warrant a slipper clutch anyway
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 10, 2018, 06:16:43 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
Did you install the winglets over the middle cowl? I've ridden behind a Madstad on a CB-X. I was impressed at how nicely the wind flowed around and over my body and helmet. I think the screen was the 18-inch model. It wasn't overly large but was a bit wider than my 118Bikes windscreen, it the same as the Givi, but dark tint polycarbonate.

Yep got the winglets and the 20" screen. I think the smaller screen is actually supposed to work better than the big one, but as I'm 6'2"  I have to have the screen up quite high to smooth the airflow on my helmet (not get me out of it). As such there is a big hole beneath the screen and I get a blast of negative pressure from there.

But let's not turn another device thread in to screen alternatives 😉. Looking forward to seeing the 2019 in the metal at some point. Shame there's not going to be a CB650X, but 4cyl engines don't seem to suit the genre apparently, which is fair. It'd have to be a CB650X Crossrunner I guess.

Loving the new light and instrument cluster on the 2019 CBX, just like everyone else.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on November 10, 2018, 06:22:39 PM
*Originally Posted by Jonathan [+]
I'm struggling to see why the Honda techs thought the X was in need of a slipper clutch, to be honest, unless they have a power upgrade in mind for the future. Maybe the off roadies can chip in as to the benefits.... :027:

Mind you, I don't envisage riding my X that hard off-piste to warrant a slipper clutch anyway

 :027:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 10, 2018, 06:22:55 PM
*Originally Posted by Jonathan [+]
I'm struggling to see why the Honda techs thought the X was in need of a slipper clutch, to be honest, unless they have a power upgrade in mind for the future. Maybe the off roadies can chip in as to the benefits.... :027:

Mind you, I don't envisage riding my X that hard off-piste to warrant a slipper clutch anyway

It helps smooth out downshifts, which isn't a bad thing in my book as my 2013 is lumpy as hell. Blipping the throttle does help of course - I guess if your downshifting from 6th and coming to a stop you may go all the way down the box with the clutch in (I do on occasion).
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on November 10, 2018, 06:23:58 PM
*Originally Posted by mother-goose [+]
Yep got the winglets and the 20" screen. I think the smaller screen is actually supposed to work better than the big one, but as I'm 6'2"  I have to have the screen up quite high to smooth the airflow on my helmet (not get me out of it). As such there is a big hole beneath the screen and I get a blast of negative pressure from there.



 :062:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 10, 2018, 07:43:40 PM
*Originally Posted by mother-goose [+]
It helps smooth out downshifts, which isn't a bad thing in my book as my 2013 is lumpy as hell. Blipping the throttle does help of course - I guess if your downshifting from 6th and coming to a stop you may go all the way down the box with the clutch in (I do on occasion).

It must vary bike to bike then. My 13 shifts very nicely. Not even that THONK! going into 1st like many of my other bikes have done.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on November 10, 2018, 09:28:12 PM
*Originally Posted by mother-goose [+]
It helps smooth out downshifts, which isn't a bad thing in my book as my 2013 is lumpy as hell. Blipping the throttle does help of course - I guess if your downshifting from 6th and coming to a stop you may go all the way down the box with the clutch in (I do on occasion).

I should really try one before casting aspersions. My 2016 seems fine up and down the box. I can see why a slipper clutch would be valid if you're doing some spirited riding off road, but how many X owners are going to feel the benefit? I'll certainly go for a test ride when the new model reaches the showroom...
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on November 10, 2018, 09:28:49 PM
https://hondanews.eu/eu/et/motorcycles/media/pressreleases/155720/2019-honda-cb500x
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 10, 2018, 09:43:27 PM
*Originally Posted by Jonathan [+]
I should really try one before casting aspersions. My 2016 seems fine up and down the box. I can see why a slipper clutch would be valid if you're doing some spirited riding off road, but how many X owners are going to feel the benefit? I'll certainly go for a test ride when the new model reaches the showroom...

I reckon it'll benefit people like me who are a bit fast letting the clutch out/shift up or down too early.

I recently discovered that when you shift above 5500rpm I get much smoother shifts, and conversely blipping on downshifts helps too. It's making me become a better rider I suspect, although when you're riding through traffic you're unlikely to rev the nuts off it...
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on November 10, 2018, 09:57:25 PM
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Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on November 10, 2018, 10:30:46 PM
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Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on November 10, 2018, 10:37:22 PM
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Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Dukie on November 10, 2018, 10:39:50 PM
Sexy pics. Love the black
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on November 10, 2018, 10:46:48 PM
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Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 11, 2018, 12:06:08 AM
I do like the aesthetics, and that instrument cluster looks lovely. I rode a VFR800X which had the inverted colour scheme like that (white on black rather than black on white like we have) and found it really easy to read without being distracting, so I'm pleased to see it here.

And of course, LED headlights are brilliant. My colleague has a CBF '17 which has that iteration of them and the difference between that and my CBX '13 is substantial. I imagine this to be a step on again.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on November 11, 2018, 02:02:36 AM
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_1968.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: SnowOwl on November 11, 2018, 03:33:41 AM
It would have been nice if they included a volt meter on the new dash.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on November 11, 2018, 04:42:54 PM
*Originally Posted by Jonathan [+]
I'm struggling to see why the Honda techs thought the X was in need of a slipper clutch, to be honest, unless they have a power upgrade in mind for the future. Maybe the off roadies can chip in as to the benefits.... :027:

Mind you, I don't envisage riding my X that hard off-piste to warrant a slipper clutch anyway

I would not think much about this. All competitors of the cbr500r (ninia 400, yamaha 300) has the slipper clutch. While the X has no real competition, the 500r is playing in a very competitive league.  We just have to think the 500 as a platform. The more unified are the major components the cheaper the manufacturing of all models will be.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Dukie on November 11, 2018, 09:12:50 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_1968.jpg)

Nice fog light switch
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on November 11, 2018, 09:15:46 PM
Installed a set on my brother in law's ATAS the other day, it's exact same as used on the Africa Twin.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 12, 2018, 03:09:37 PM
Nothing much new here but a video showing all three versions of the 2019 range.


I've only just noticed how the screen differs from the previous model, it has a nicer shape that curves back into the fairing, I like it.

Looks like the new display is across the range on the 650's too, and nice that Honda are having LED indicators as standard now it seems.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 12, 2018, 04:06:37 PM
I watched that video earlier, really shows how many changes they have made to the X. How nice does that CB650R look?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 12, 2018, 05:25:28 PM
The CB650R does look really cool to be honest, love that headlight. Honda seem to be knocking it out the park lately.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 12, 2018, 06:36:40 PM
Their styling has been on point 👌

They won't do it, but an Adv bodied CB650 would have me throwing my money at them (I don't do off road, but the riding positions on Adv's are comfy). Could well be tempted by it though - the prospect of year round commuting on a naked is putting me off...
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 12, 2018, 06:38:59 PM
A CB650X (say around 70bhp) would be amazing. I'd be first in line for that.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 12, 2018, 06:50:54 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
A CB650X (say around 70bhp) would be amazing. I'd be first in line for that.

The only way I can see it happening is of the VFR800X gets retired because of Euro 5?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 12, 2018, 06:54:42 PM
They should retire it, it's a heavy beast. A sub 200 kg CB650X is the way forward.   :001:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 12, 2018, 07:52:30 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
They should retire it, it's a heavy beast. A sub 200 kg CB650X is the way forward.   :001:

It is, but it's lovely to ride on the motorway and it's bloody quick, but yes, it is heavy, that caught me out a bit on the test ride.

Costs a bomb to insure as well. For me with only 1 years no claim bonus it costs £300 more per annum to insure it compared to a Triumph Tiger 800 XRT.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on November 12, 2018, 07:57:52 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
They should retire it, it's a heavy beast. A sub 200 kg CB650X is the way forward.   :001:

Unfortunately not gonna happen. Even the naked 650f is about 210 kg, by the time all farkles and fairings added it would be even more. CoG might be lower than the Vtwin 800, but the weight would not be below 200kg with that four cyl mill.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 12, 2018, 08:03:59 PM
*Originally Posted by Oyabun [+]
Unfortunately not gonna happen. Even the naked 650f is about 210 kg, by the time all farkles and fairings added it would be even more. CoG might be lower than the Vtwin 800, but the weight would not be below 200kg with that four cyl mill.

My MT09 Tracer is only 210kg wet, I see no reason why a 650X couldn't be under 200kg. The Tracer 700 is the same weight as the 500X.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on November 12, 2018, 08:13:45 PM
Your tracer has a 3 cylinder engine, the 650 mill in the Honda is 4 cylinder. Ironically cubic capacity hasn't got much to do with component weight. The 4 pot engine has a longer crank, a larger block, more of every moving (eg, counterweights, balancing weights etc) and supporting (eg. +1 throttle body, exhaust pipe, more water to cool the +1 cast-in iron cylinder jacket). Would be very surprised to see it getting even close to the weight of your tracer.
Also the new T700 tenere despite using all carbon and unobtanium is still 205kg ready ro roll, with a very light cp2 Yamaha twin.
Not saying it would bot be ideal to get something under 200kg, but the chances as very very slim.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 12, 2018, 08:41:31 PM
You seem to be over complicating this.

The Tracer 700 (I didn't mention Tenere) is a parallel twin 76bhp bike with a half fairing that weighs 196kg, why can't Honda make an equivalent that is also the same weight?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 12, 2018, 08:43:19 PM
Based on my test ride of the 900 GT, the Honda's weight could come from the switch gear alone.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Trailrunner on November 12, 2018, 08:58:13 PM
Yes, we want the slipper clutch.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on November 12, 2018, 08:58:52 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
You seem to be over complicating this.

The Tracer 700 (I didn't mention Tenere) is a parallel twin 76bhp bike with a half fairing that weighs 196kg, why can't Honda make an equivalent that is also the same weight?

Simply because Honda does not have an engine what would be competitive with the 700cc CP2 engine?
Or in other words Honda tries to differentiate with other features. The NC 700-750 mill is a heavy lump, what cannot be built in a short wheelbase - because the heavily slanted engine.
The 500 series mill cannot be enlarged further, and the 650s are kept as four cylinders to differentiate from the twin cyl competition.
Yamaha did great when built the CP2 platform and built it very light so they can create great light weight bikes around it for the developed world which is like 10+15% revenue share of the total market
Honda concentrated on rolling out sh#tl0ads of 500s to the rest if the world and from the profits built the AT as a prestige touring motorcycle. Different approaches.
Just a sidenote. The Tracer is 16 kgs heavier than its naked funbike sibling the MT07. Honda recently isn't a company rolling out particularly light bikes. Add 15 kgs to any of the current Honda platform bikes and You're definitely above 200kg.
I think the closest we'll get to that is the '19 cb500 for the medium run. Again. Ain't saying it would be impossible, or it would not be great. But just pulling out a brand new engine platform of Honda's sleeves is highly unlikely.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Dukie on November 13, 2018, 01:39:52 AM
I'd love the triumph 675 triple engine in this bike for the streets.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on November 13, 2018, 03:38:08 PM
*Originally Posted by Oyabun [+]
Simply because Honda does not have an engine what would be competitive with the 700cc CP2 engine?
Or in other words Honda tries to differentiate with other features. The NC 700-750 mill is a heavy lump, what cannot be built in a short wheelbase - because the heavily slanted engine.
The 500 series mill cannot be enlarged further, and the 650s are kept as four cylinders to differentiate from the twin cyl competition.
Yamaha did great when built the CP2 platform and built it very light so they can create great light weight bikes around it for the developed world which is like 10+15% revenue share of the total market
Honda concentrated on rolling out sh#tl0ads of 500s to the rest if the world and from the profits built the AT as a prestige touring motorcycle. Different approaches.
Just a sidenote. The Tracer is 16 kgs heavier than its naked funbike sibling the MT07. Honda recently isn't a company rolling out particularly light bikes. Add 15 kgs to any of the current Honda platform bikes and You're definitely above 200kg.
I think the closest we'll get to that is the '19 cb500 for the medium run. Again. Ain't saying it would be impossible, or it would not be great. But just pulling out a brand new engine platform of Honda's sleeves is highly unlikely.

That ^^^

;o)

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 14, 2018, 02:43:36 PM
I see my local Honda dealer has slashed the price of the 500X again this winter. Brand new 2018 for £4990, bargain. I assume because the 2019 will be out soon.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mrklunk on November 14, 2018, 02:50:09 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
I see my local Honda dealer has slashed the price of the 500X again this winter. Brand new 2018 for £4990, bargain. I assume because the 2019 will be out soon.

Great deal. I got a bargain too by waiting until Dec last year. The new model means they will be VERY motivated to discount 2018's. I'm loaning a Tracer btw when mine goes in for it's annual service ;)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 14, 2018, 03:17:25 PM
Indeed, I got the deal last year, although it was £4800.

What Tracer are they loaning you, 700 or 900?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 14, 2018, 03:19:57 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Indeed, I got the deal last year, although it was £4800.

What Tracer are they loaning you, 700 or 900?

I know this isn't aimed at me, but I rode the 700, 900 and 900 GT and had buffetting on all 3 of them. Less so on the GT but it ruined the experience for me which is a shame (not convinced on their 900 Triple either, trying the Tiger 800 on Friday so that'll be interesting).
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mrklunk on November 14, 2018, 03:26:36 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Indeed, I got the deal last year, although it was £4800.

What Tracer are they loaning you, 700 or 900?

Not sure yet? As it's a loan it'll be whatever they have available? I saw you preferred the 900? I'm not sure I want all that power as over the summer I've been riding the X really hard and I would probably do the same with a 900 which may not be a good idea for a more 'mature'  ;) rider like myself!?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 14, 2018, 03:45:26 PM
*Originally Posted by mother-goose [+]
I know this isn't aimed at me, but I rode the 700, 900 and 900 GT and had buffetting on all 3 of them. Less so on the GT but it ruined the experience for me which is a shame (not convinced on their 900 Triple either, trying the Tiger 800 on Friday so that'll be interesting).

The buffeting is bad on the stock screen of the 700 and 900's, soon solved that with a cheap screen extension off ebay. What do you mean, "not convinced on their 900 triple"?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 14, 2018, 03:51:30 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
The buffeting is bad on the stock screen of the 700 and 900's, soon solved that with a cheap screen extension off ebay. What do you mean, "not convinced on their 900 triple"?

Ah nice, that's good to know it's easily solvable.

With regards to the engine in the 900, I can't put my finger on what I didn't really like, I just didn't find it that engaging or characterful. Does that make sense? It's a perfectly good engine, just not one that made me feel excited to ride it. Quick shifter was pretty addictive but it'd be nice if it was an up and down one.

The seating position was more "schporty" than I like as well. It's all so subjective though isn't it?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Admin on November 14, 2018, 04:01:55 PM
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This topic is starting to loose it's way, need to get back on track  :038:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 14, 2018, 04:31:24 PM
Sorry chief, sooooo, the 2019 500X, can't wait.   :001:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 14, 2018, 05:38:56 PM
Apologies also. So used to chatting on Slack where you thread off at will that I forget forums aren't the same.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: gregjet on November 14, 2018, 08:42:08 PM
Don't know why so much angst about the slipper. I love em.
I think Honda have actually done what they should have done in the first place to make a proper adventure bike from this motor platform. Sorry to those who think that the stock setup on the 13-18 year bikes are a competent off road bike, but they aren't. That's why RR has made a good impact on the owners. They have done what should have been done in the first pace. Honda still haven't caught up but will continue to go in that direction.
Oya makes some good points about the motor , using it as a basis for a bigger motor, but why would you want to anyway. A 500 twin is a nice size with enough power and torque for the dirt and still be fine on the tar. Once you get over a certain amount of power it becomes completely useless ( and indeed can be unpleasant) in the loose stuff, as Rallye drivers found in the days before 4wd.
19" or even 21" improves the rollover in the dirt and reduces vertical displacement on uneven surfaces. Good choice for those using the bike for rougher roads. Slipper clutch ( described as antibounce by Honda) is a welcome thing on any bike and I am hoping it is backward compatible for the earlier models.
Longer suspension is going to be a godsend off road or on lumpy bitumen roads. The original X suspension travel was less than my completely road orineted MT07.
I like the better flow from behind the radiator ( I live in a hot climate and it is important). Probably doesn't matter much in Europe.
Said 4 years ago that headlights would all be LED by 2020 and looks like it's getting there.  I was howled down when I said it , and people were saying they would NEVER have an ugly LED headlight...I would like to hear from the people with the new LED lights how they compare. They also don't blow filaments from vibration like QI's .
Just hope the new models don't go the way of Honda and just get heavier and heavier. For me the bike is already too heavy for a 500cc off road bike ( or on road for that matter). My 656cc 07 is lighter than this bike and it's stable mates.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on November 15, 2018, 08:49:54 AM
Can't help thinking the 500X is a road bike with a comfy upright 'adventure' stance, it's not an off-roader, so why does it need a bigger front wheel.....BMW R1250GS has a 17" wheel, and I've just read a review of the Africa Twin which complains that the 21" front wheel affects road performance too much......it's a fine line.  :087:

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: mother-goose on November 15, 2018, 09:03:31 AM
Completely agree with it being an upright road bike in stock form.

The wheel size thing is a good point, must be one of the reasons Triumph and BMW have the two variants for the 800 machines?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 15, 2018, 09:04:40 AM
The BMW R1250GS actually has a 19" front wheel. I think the new 19" front on the CB500X is a great addition. Its a nice middle point between the more street 17" and the full off-road 21", happy medium to better fit the capabilities of this bike and the needs or more of its riders. I'm quite happy with my '14 off-road but would love to have a 2019 19" for sure. If they were offering the white here in Canada I'd be tempted. My '78 XL250S actually has a 23" front rim  :005: I wonder if that would fit on the X  :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: macamxthe1st on November 15, 2018, 10:56:54 AM
If anyone is going to ML could they please sling a leg over the new 500X and tell me if it feels significantly higher than the current model. They have supposedly slimed the seat to compensate.

Geoff.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on November 15, 2018, 10:59:17 AM
*Originally Posted by macamxthe1st [+]
If anyone is going to ML could they please sling a leg over the new 500X and tell me if it feels significantly higher than the current model. They have supposedly slimed the seat to compensate.

Geoff.

I'm sure you're aware that EICMA has closed on 11th?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: macamxthe1st on November 15, 2018, 11:40:00 AM
*Originally Posted by Oyabun [+]
I'm sure you're aware that EICMA has closed on 11th?

Thanks for that but Motorcycle Live opens on the 17th November.

Geoff.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on November 15, 2018, 01:39:37 PM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
Can't help thinking the 500X is a road bike with a comfy upright 'adventure' stance, it's not an off-roader, so why does it need a bigger front wheel.....BMW R1250GS has a 17" wheel, and I've just read a review of the Africa Twin which complains that the 21" front wheel affects road performance too much......it's a fine line.  :087:

I "think" Honda is loosely following Rally Raid's line on the '19 CB500X. I agree the 19-inch front isn't needed. However, you knew this was coming, didn't you? However, those of us that use our bikes offroad can utilize that larger wheel.

If anyone buys a '19 and balks at that 19-inch front wheel, I'll happily swap front ends and wheels. I'll do the swap on both bikes so we know everything is done properly.  :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: hilldweller on November 18, 2018, 07:30:13 PM
I've now sat on one at the NEC Motorcyclelive Show.

Basically a nice steady step forwards without ruining it. Biggest improvement the instrument panel. Flatter bars, not sure. 19" front not sure but I suspect no advantage to most. So still same lovely bike. Would I buy one, no, not enough improvements to warrant the cost when mine is still only 17,000 miles.

I did sit on the new Trace 700 GT. That bike is soooooo attractive.

Looked at the new BMW 800 adventure, it seems huge compared to X. Same with Triumph 800 adventure.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 18, 2018, 07:32:28 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
I did sit on the new Tracer 700 GT. That bike is soooooo attractive.

Look, we all know you have a thing for the Tracer 700, just buy one and have done with it.   :001:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: UKJeeper on November 18, 2018, 07:38:46 PM
*Originally Posted by macamxthe1st [+]
If anyone is going to ML could they please sling a leg over the new 500X and tell me if it feels significantly higher than the current model. They have supposedly slimed the seat to compensate.

Geoff.

Went to ML. Sat on both the 2019's on display. Didn't feel significantly taller. If there was slime on the seat, they must have wiped it off....  :016:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 18, 2018, 07:39:58 PM
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Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Mister Paul on November 18, 2018, 09:18:57 PM
*Originally Posted by macamxthe1st [+]
If anyone is going to ML could they please sling a leg over the new 500X and tell me if it feels significantly higher than the current model. They have supposedly slimed the seat to compensate.

Geoff.

The one at the show is noticeably taller. I can stand over my 2018 X and there's air between the seat and my vegetables. On the show bike I could only just flat foot. Bear in mind though that at the show they do something to the suspension so it doesn't compress normally. But yes, it is taller.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on November 18, 2018, 10:31:44 PM
*Originally Posted by Mister Paul [+]
I can stand over my 2018 X and there's air between the seat and my vegetables.
Did you make sure your vegetables we recalibrated before slinging a leg ?
 :745:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Winchester on November 19, 2018, 12:37:35 AM
*Originally Posted by Jonathan [+]
I wouldn't be too disheartened. The 2018 is a pretty refined bike compared to the original X, which itself wasn't a bad bike to start with. On paper the 2019 looks to be much improved, but in real terms I imagine you'd be hard pressed to feel much difference between the two. You're still looking at a mid-powered adv style road bike with budget suspension, when all's said and done (without wishing to sound too disparaging)...in some ways, you're better off buying an earlier model and putting the cash saved where it's actually needed, ie better tyres and suspension. Increased ride height doesn't necessarily equate to better ride quality, either. Now if they'd upped the output to 70HP and but better brakes on it, and I'd just been persuaded to buy a 50HP because the dealer wanted to shift old stock....I'd be similarly aggrieved...

and it still feels more nimble than a V strom

What he said - and yes, it SURE DOES!!! Had I been on my old Wee today winding up those gravel switchbacks on that mountain - not sure??? Up and back down, my X was sure footed even with a tense rider.

OK, I made my way up through all 17 pages of this thread. On the technical side – I have nothing to offer here – that’s what you always helpful tech folks are for and thank you.

I have a 2018 which I’ve been steadily farkling with carefully selected, meaningful accessories. Both bike and rider are better for the time and $ invested. It looks very nice. It rides GREAT. Would I like a 2019, now that I know what’s coming? With the exception of the new dash, no, not really. I do ride off road but maybe only 15% of the time where the 21” wheel would have the advantage. Jenny says it will on both road types and I believe her!!! But I’m not sure this rider could capitalize on that advantage and wonder how many (what %?) truthfully could?

If this sounds like I’m putting down the 2019 – I’m definitely NOT. I’d be just as happy having a 2019 all decked out like mine is in the driveway – but IMHO – they are, for the most part – the same bike. I thought Jonathan's quote above summed it up exceptionally well. And why I have zero remorse with my 2018. Nada. Which is to say – buying an ’18 or older model – you could put the savings into new (and much better) tires – upgrade the windshield which I’m speculating most will want to do on the ’19 – luggage of your choice all around – etc. etc. Either way though, you will get superb bike.  :152:

I’m riding, listening and learning. Good to be here.

Cheers.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: showin4231 on November 19, 2018, 05:52:20 AM
Hold on a second.. According to specs on powersports.honda.com "http://powersports.honda.com/2019/cb500x/specifications.aspx", there will only be "Grand Prix Red" available in the US ???
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB500X on November 19, 2018, 09:55:18 AM
*Originally Posted by showin4231 [+]
Hold on a second.. According to specs on powersports.honda.com "http://powersports.honda.com/2019/cb500x/specifications.aspx", there will only be "Grand Prix Red" available in the US ???

There was only one colour this year as well for the US, so no change there. Many of the US Honda models only come in a single colour.  :002:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Chainlink on November 19, 2018, 11:23:14 AM
I also had a look at the new bike at Motorcycle Live. Slightly higher as others have said, I could still flat foot. I thought the general seating position, bars, controls etc, felt different but still very relaxed and comfortable. It might just be me, but the new seat  feels a bit more comfortable.

There's  nothing nothing about the new version that will make me swap, but new owners are certainly going to benefit. I did sit on the Tracer 700GT (and the 900GT) though, and I'm with Hilldweller, a very attractive package. I'm definitely going to get a test ride next year.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: showin4231 on November 20, 2018, 01:13:24 AM
*Originally Posted by CB500X [+]
There was only one colour this year as well for the US, so no change there. Many of the US Honda models only come in a single colour.  :002:
Thanks for the reply~ Actually my concern is not whether it is so, but why. No Honda tool kit, no color/finish options. What have we done wrong?  :110:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: UKJeeper on November 20, 2018, 09:47:27 AM
*Originally Posted by showin4231 [+]
Thanks for the reply~ Actually my concern is not whether it is so, but why. No Honda tool kit, no color/finish options. What have we done wrong?  :110:

Elected Trump....  :745:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: vanderbale on November 20, 2018, 11:54:19 AM
*Originally Posted by Chainlink [+]
I also had a look at the new bike at Motorcycle Live. Slightly higher as others have said, I could still flat foot. I thought the general seating position, bars, controls etc, felt different but still very relaxed and comfortable. It might just be me, but the new seat  feels a bit more comfortable.

There's  nothing nothing about the new version that will make me swap, but new owners are certainly going to benefit. I did sit on the Tracer 700GT (and the 900GT) though, and I'm with Hilldweller, a very attractive package. I'm definitely going to get a test ride next year.

I'd like to try the new seat, if it's good I hope the new seat will fit older models. I find the one on my 2016 gets uncomfortable so I have to use a cheap comfort cushion.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 20, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
I'm surprised Honda doesn't have an adjustable seat for the X, like it does for the AT. I know its probably harder to do this with a one piece seat but I know some riders do find the X tall and having it adjustable would open it up to a broader range of riders.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on November 20, 2018, 12:27:28 PM
*Originally Posted by HerrDeacon [+]
I'm surprised Honda doesn't have an adjustable seat for the X, like it does for the AT. I know its probably harder to do this with a one piece seat but I know some riders do find the X tall and having it adjustable would open it up to a broader range of riders.

This is a really good point. One thing that new riders in particular are often nervous about is being able to put their feet on the ground. I've managed to convince a close friend of mine to get her bike licence, and although she is very attracted by my bike as a starter, is daunted by this issue.

Even though such adjustability might add, marginally, to production costs, it would open a huge market for sales, which I'd think would recoup/offset  costs easily.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Xch on November 20, 2018, 12:57:25 PM
*Originally Posted by Winchester [+]
What he said - and yes, it SURE DOES!!! Had I been on my old Wee today winding up those gravel switchbacks on that mountain - not sure??? Up and back down, my X was sure footed even with a tense rider.

OK, I made my way up through all 17 pages of this thread. On the technical side – I have nothing to offer here – that’s what you always helpful tech folks are for and thank you.

I have a 2018 which I’ve been steadily farkling with carefully selected, meaningful accessories. Both bike and rider are better for the time and $ invested. It looks very nice. It rides GREAT. Would I like a 2019, now that I know what’s coming? With the exception of the new dash, no, not really. I do ride off road but maybe only 15% of the time where the 21” wheel would have the advantage. Jenny says it will on both road types and I believe her!!! But I’m not sure this rider could capitalize on that advantage and wonder how many (what %?) truthfully could?

If this sounds like I’m putting down the 2019 – I’m definitely NOT. I’d be just as happy having a 2019 all decked out like mine is in the driveway – but IMHO – they are, for the most part – the same bike. I thought Jonathan's quote above summed it up exceptionally well. And why I have zero remorse with my 2018. Nada. Which is to say – buying an ’18 or older model – you could put the savings into new (and much better) tires – upgrade the windshield which I’m speculating most will want to do on the ’19 – luggage of your choice all around – etc. etc. Either way though, you will get superb bike.  :152:

I’m riding, listening and learning. Good to be here.

Cheers.

What 21 inch front wheel are you talking about?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: hilldweller on November 20, 2018, 07:07:27 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Look, we all know you have a thing for the Tracer 700, just buy one and have done with it.   :001:

I just can't do it. If the X got stolen I could weaken but in the real world the X just works. The only thing missing is lunatic big grin driving licence losing acceleration. Riding down the M6 to the bike show would have been exactly the same on both bikes but a bit less fuel on the X. Get thee behind me Satan.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 20, 2018, 07:15:45 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
Riding down the M6 to the bike show would have been exactly the same on both bikes but a bit less fuel on the X.

You make a good point, which has also crossed my mind previously. I could commute to work almost as easily and in the same time on my 500X as I could on my current Tracer 900, except I'm using considerably less fuel on the 500X. I think I'd prefer more power on the motorway though.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Zero88 on November 20, 2018, 08:27:03 PM
Dammit! I'm loving the new one, in pretty much every way. Long story short my 500X was stolen earlier in the year and I replaced it with a 750X...I've got a little bit of buyers remorse trickling in now...not helped by the appearance of this new model!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Kindai on November 20, 2018, 09:38:51 PM
I've seen a price confirmed on YouTube channel JF Motorcycles it will be RRP £6,069, slight increase from last year's model, £5,959 of £110, a 1.8% increase, which isn't too bad. I've got a 2019 on order, and my dealer will confirm the official price to me this week hopefully. He does confirm a Jan/Feb 2019 release though. Video below with the pricing.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Winchester on November 20, 2018, 10:08:57 PM
*Originally Posted by Xch [+]
What 21 inch front wheel are you talking about?

My bad - 19".   :430:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Kindai on November 20, 2018, 11:23:50 PM
*Originally Posted by Kindai [+]
I've seen a price confirmed on YouTube channel JF Motorcycles it will be RRP £6,069, slight increase from last year's model, £5,959 of £110, a 1.8% increase, which isn't too bad. I've got a 2019 on order, and my dealer will confirm the official price to me this week hopefully. He does confirm a Jan/Feb 2019 release though. Video below with the pricing.


£6069 confirmed on Honda website.

https://www.honda.co.uk/motorcycles/range/adventure/cb500x/specifications.html

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 21, 2018, 04:53:58 AM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
I reckon £6000 for this in the UK.

I was close.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 21, 2018, 11:43:05 AM
*Originally Posted by Kindai [+]
I've seen a price confirmed on YouTube channel JF Motorcycles it will be RRP £6,069, slight increase from last year's model, £5,959 of £110, a 1.8% increase, which isn't too bad. I've got a 2019 on order, and my dealer will confirm the official price to me this week hopefully. He does confirm a Jan/Feb 2019 release though. Video below with the pricing.


They left the horn button in the middle of the switchgear. I really wish that they'd move it down to the bottom like just aboout every other manufacturer in the industry does.  :192:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 21, 2018, 11:46:37 AM
*Originally Posted by Zero88 [+]
Dammit! I'm loving the new one, in pretty much every way. Long story short my 500X was stolen earlier in the year and I replaced it with a 750X...I've got a little bit of buyers remorse trickling in now...not helped by the appearance of this new model!

Welcome to the forum.

"It's never too late to change the road you're on" -Robert Plant  :821:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: macamxthe1st on November 21, 2018, 02:00:31 PM
If the extra height does not preclude me (ducks decease) then "I'll be back).

Geoff.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: hilldweller on November 21, 2018, 06:36:08 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
I think I'd prefer more power on the motorway though.

Power is GOOD. Power is ADDICTIVE. Power gets you points, the wrong points. We just have so many cameras on our motorways even the X needs little throttle most of the time. And even the back roads are not safe from "safety camera vans", I sweated for three weeks after one day in Derbyshire where there is the most beautiful 80 mph sweeper. Then I saw the van parked. They recently dropped the limit to 50 so I was in deep poo if he'd got me. Beautiful bend, bright sunshine, no traffic but a camera van !!

Now if commuting in Germany, that is quite another matter, the X is well out of place on the autobahn.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 21, 2018, 07:10:16 PM
Having owned a number of high powered bikes in my time, I've come to the conclusion that, for me at least, big powered bikes only goad me into riding much faster than I normally would. I'm glad that that temptation is gone. (although sometimes I really miss the feeling of blasting off into outer space on a liter bike.)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 21, 2018, 07:27:18 PM
I've never particularly enjoyed top end power/speed, although I do enjoy the rush now and again in short bursts on a camera free road.

I'm more of a low end torque/acceleration fan hence why I prefer twins and triples.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on November 21, 2018, 08:58:36 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
I've never particularly enjoyed top end power/speed, although I do enjoy the rush now and again in short bursts on a camera free road.

I'm more of a low end torque/acceleration fan hence why I prefer twins and triples.

Same here....I'm now of an age where I can't actually think (or react) at high speeds, but the ability to get to 80mph in a matter of seconds is always a buzz in the right circumstances.
These days anything on two wheels over 110 plays havoc with my sphincter.... :012:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 21, 2018, 10:17:20 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
I've never particularly enjoyed top end power/speed, although I do enjoy the rush now and again in short bursts on a camera free road.

I'm more of a low end torque/acceleration fan hence why I prefer twins and triples.

Same here. Love triples for their torque off idle.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on November 22, 2018, 01:19:16 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
Power is GOOD. Power is ADDICTIVE.

I'm with hilldweller on this. Although our bikes have one of the best engines out there, it is quite whimpy. Ideally would like 75 hp in the same weight bike.
 Oh wait I just described a Tracer 700 !  :138:
Can't wait for it to be available in the US.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 22, 2018, 01:32:19 PM
For me, as of now, the new KTM 790 Adventure looks to be the only bike that could get me off my X, looking forward to it coming out.  :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 22, 2018, 02:45:03 PM
*Originally Posted by HerrDeacon [+]
For me, as of now, the new KTM 790 Adventure looks to be the only bike that could get me off my X, looking forward to it coming out.  :152:

Have they released a price for it yet?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 22, 2018, 02:48:14 PM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Have they released a price for it yet?

Not that I'm aware of and that will probably be the point that sinks it for me.  :003: Won't be cheap for sure, too high and I'll keep my X for sure.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 22, 2018, 02:52:31 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
I'm with hilldweller on this. Although our bikes have one of the best engines out there, it is quite whimpy. Ideally would like 75 hp in the same weight bike.
 Oh wait I just described a Tracer 700 !  :138:
Can't wait for it to be available in the US.

I'm waiting for some genius to design a bike like the Tracer 900 that does the mpg of the 500X.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 22, 2018, 03:00:12 PM
*Originally Posted by HerrDeacon [+]
Not that I'm aware of and that will probably be the point that sinks it for me.  :003: Won't be cheap for sure, too high and I'll keep my X for sure.

That would be my guess as well. I glanced over on the ADVr 790 thread a few day ago and some said it was within spitting distance of the 1090, which is quite surprising. I would imagine that they would need a dedicated customer base to to pick the 790 over the 1090.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 22, 2018, 04:49:11 PM
Before the 790 I never really considered a KTM and so don't really know how their model line-up pans out. Just by glancing at the 1090 I could see the 790 taking sales from it by shorter people or those that want something more dirt worthy. Nice to have options though.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: hilldweller on November 22, 2018, 05:21:56 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
Can't wait for it to be available in the US.

Yamaha must be insane, one of the biggest, richest markets on Earth and they neglect it. UK on the other hand is a piddling little place not that attractive to bikers with our weather and crowded roads. Biking for fun here is very much"the sun is shining, grab a bike" because tomorrow it could be snowing.

The Tracer is lighter as well 60% more power. "SATAN I told you sod off, when are you going to listen ?"

And 60% more torque. "Piss off SATAN."
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 22, 2018, 06:05:51 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
Yamaha must be insane, one of the biggest, richest markets on Earth and they neglect it. UK on the other hand is a piddling little place not that attractive to bikers with our weather and crowded roads. Biking for fun here is very much"the sun is shining, grab a bike" because tomorrow it could be snowing.

The Tracer is lighter as well 60% more power. "SATAN I told you sod off, when are you going to listen ?"

And 60% more torque. "Piss off SATAN."

It is definitely baffling their marketing strategy.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on November 22, 2018, 06:26:01 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
Yamaha must be insane, one of the biggest, richest markets on Earth and they neglect it. UK on the other hand is a piddling little place not that attractive to bikers with our weather and crowded roads. Biking for fun here is very much"the sun is shining, grab a bike" because tomorrow it could be snowing.

The Tracer is lighter as well 60% more power. "SATAN I told you sod off, when are you going to listen ?"

And 60% more torque. "Piss off SATAN."
Started to write a post answering yours, but had ro recognise half way, that you're refering the tracer, not the Tenere 700 which I was eagerly waiting.
Nevertheless, I cannot argue with the power and torque figures, but to my understanding the weight is 196kg, what is equal to the 500x. The tracer has the same crappy suspension as the 500 from the factory, even more the rear shock is directly bolted to the
engine block - not that I'd ever heard of any failures related to that.
Apage Satanas!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on November 22, 2018, 08:35:18 PM
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 23, 2018, 01:24:37 PM
*Originally Posted by HerrDeacon [+]
Not that I'm aware of and that will probably be the point that sinks it for me.  :003: Won't be cheap for sure, too high and I'll keep my X for sure.


Just saw £11099 for the standard and £11999 for the R. Ouch.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 23, 2018, 01:30:20 PM
Ouch is right, too rich for me I think  :155: Unless they decide to take it easy on us Canadians, or I wait a year to get a leftover one.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: hilldweller on November 23, 2018, 06:29:28 PM
*Originally Posted by Oyabun [+]
not the Tenere 700 which I was eagerly waiting.

That was on show too. Not my cup of tea but looked a serious off road machine, "Solid" in one word. I should think Honda are more than a little worried by it

I'm sure it's a question of "if it look right it is right" and those of a dirty disposition will have a ball on it.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on November 27, 2018, 12:38:02 PM
Been away for a few months since selling my X and been pondering my next bike. I’d kept thinking that if I can’t decide on something else then I’d just get another X. Now I’ve seen this thread (I’d no idea till last night an update was coming) I think my mind is made up - a 2019 X will be mine!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on November 27, 2018, 02:14:59 PM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
Been away for a few months since selling my X and been pondering my next bike. I’d kept thinking that if I can’t decide on something else then I’d just get another X. Now I’ve seen this thread (I’d no idea till last night an update was coming) I think my mind is made up - a 2019 X will be mine!

Welcome back to the fold. I think the '19 is going to be a great bike.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: vguy on November 30, 2018, 11:31:40 PM
Looks better with knobs.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on December 01, 2018, 12:26:43 AM
*Originally Posted by vguy [+]
Looks better with knobs.

Nice first post.  :400:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on December 01, 2018, 02:46:39 PM
*Originally Posted by vguy [+]
Looks better with knobs.

Appears to be self-balancing too in that pic.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: vguy on December 01, 2018, 06:01:07 PM
Honda magic in action.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on December 09, 2018, 04:31:39 PM
Detailed  info here :
http://www.hondaprokevin.com/2019-honda-cb500x-review-specs
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on December 09, 2018, 05:20:27 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
Detailed  info here :
http://www.hondaprokevin.com/2019-honda-cb500x-review-specs

 :460:

I think I'll swap up for a '19 gen model someday (although not soon). Sounds like a nicely revised machine.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Perfictsib on December 31, 2018, 01:45:05 PM
Thailand video showing center stand and the revised rear suspension linkage at around 4:14
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: lesmeister on December 31, 2018, 03:07:17 PM
Thanks for the info, careful examination of the clip shows quite a few of the new details, chain adjustment, front fender with fork seal protection ears.  At the 2:09 mark they seem to show an older (2018? Red) model.  The mounting points and configuration for the 'Crash' bars is significantly different.  Looks like the 2019 bars give better coverage to the sides of the radiator.  Hope these accessories will be available in the US.

Wishing everyone a safe and Happy New Year, and remember:
“Undigested food for thought can give you sh#t for brains” ~ Unknown
. . . . . . . . . . .lesmeister

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Trailrunner on December 31, 2018, 04:48:11 PM
Thanks for the video 2019 looks good
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on December 31, 2018, 05:36:23 PM
Centre stand isn't fitted as standard is it?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on December 31, 2018, 07:39:30 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Centre stand isn't fitted as standard is it?

Doubt it....I think the vid is from Motoskills, who make accessories for the X, amongst others, unless I'm mistaken. Honda will do their own version, for sure, along with aux lights (hence the spare front OP plug on earlier models), luggage (the previous oem stuff was slated across the board), possibly a tank bag, taller screen etc....ie all the sh#t you tend to buy after the event  :001:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on December 31, 2018, 07:43:59 PM
Shame, bike like this needs to have centre stand as standard.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: dereck74 on January 02, 2019, 06:15:20 AM
I would only have a center stand if it does not affect the ground clearance. If it does, I would not want/buy one.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on January 02, 2019, 02:26:59 PM
*Originally Posted by dereck74 [+]
I would only have a center stand if it does not affect the ground clearance. If it does, I would not want/buy one.

Welcome to the forum.

I agree. I have a center stand sitting in a box in my closet and sometimes I wish for the convenience of the centerstand , but it would mean removing my Rally Raid engine guard and also mean losing a bit of clearance. So, in the closet it sits.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on January 02, 2019, 05:21:45 PM
 :152: :152: :152:

The deed is Done!!!!!!!


Just talked with my Dealer, put in my pre-approval for financing and ordered a brand spanking new 2019!!!!! In Red. Call me old school, but a Honda should be red.

He said there was a very limited allotment for Canada (might be  salesman BS...) but he could get me one for sure.

now it's a long wait till may! :164:


Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lattugo on January 02, 2019, 05:44:40 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
:152: :152: :152:

The deed is Done!!!!!!!


Just talked with my Dealer, put in my pre-approval for financing and ordered a brand spanking new 2019!!!!! In Red. Call me old school, but a Honda should be red.

...wasn't it Ferrari?

Many congrats on your purchase!!!

 :306:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on January 02, 2019, 05:57:15 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
:152: :152: :152:

The deed is Done!!!!!!!


Just talked with my Dealer, put in my pre-approval for financing and ordered a brand spanking new 2019!!!!! In Red. Call me old school, but a Honda should be red.

He said there was a very limited allotment for Canada (might be  salesman BS...) but he could get me one for sure.

now it's a long wait till may! :164:

Congrats. You must be feeling like  :104:

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Revoflyer on January 09, 2019, 11:41:27 PM
A test drive of sorts.....but I don't speak the language. Hopefully we will begin to see reviews soon.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on January 10, 2019, 12:28:19 AM
*Originally Posted by Revoflyer [+]
A test drive of sorts.....but I don't speak the language. Hopefully we will begin to see reviews soon.


Fortunately I speak fluent Thai...I won't translate the entire thing but to paraphrase he says:

"Man...I wish Honda had upgraded the output to 65 HP and fitted tubeless spokes... adjustable footpegs...and Renthals as standard"  :016:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: dereck74 on January 10, 2019, 06:14:29 AM
65 horse power were out of the question from a 471 c.c. engine.

Spoke wheels are not necessary and perhaps not desirable on a mild adventure bike like this.

On the contrary, adjustable pegs would have been desirable, IMHO.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CaptainBart45 on January 10, 2019, 05:04:00 PM
*Originally Posted by dereck74 [+]
65 horse power were out of the question from a 471 c.c. engine.

Spoke wheels are not necessary and perhaps not desirable on a mild adventure bike like this.

On the contrary, adjustable pegs would have been desirable, IMHO.
I think the 1000cc rocket bikes are pushing, if not over, 200hp. I understand price and value are major factors, however, 65hp from a 500 class doesn't seem like a unreasonable quest.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: SnowOwl on January 10, 2019, 09:38:22 PM
As has been said many times before... this bike is intentionally designed for high torque and limited HP to be compliant with the A2 licensing limit in some countries.  So, no, Honda is not going to tweak it for more HP.  They did up the torque, but not the HP so as to stay within the A2 limits.  If you must have more HP then this is not the bike for you.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on January 10, 2019, 10:43:43 PM
*Originally Posted by dereck74 [+]
65 horse power were out of the question from a 471 c.c. engine.

Spoke wheels are not necessary and perhaps not desirable on a mild adventure bike like this.

On the contrary, adjustable pegs would have been desirable, IMHO.

Not really. The 450cc Dakar bikes are making 70hp+. Our bikes dyno in the low 40s from what I've seen. Oyabun has made a custom cam and slightly skimmed/ported head (IIRC it raises compression about half a point to what the asian market CB400X has, so it's pump gas friendly). Those two + an IXIL catless header and a tune should be good for around 55whp+. Others on the CBR500R forum have done aftermarket cams, slight compression bump, catless exhaust, etc. in various combinations and some of those bikes put out around 55whp. Oyabun's combination will be in line with that group, if not a little higher. From what I understand the bike is in nearing the final stages of assembly.

So 55whp with 10% driveline loss = about 60 hp at the crankshaft, which is as they would rate it from the factory. "65hp" is not impossible.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on January 11, 2019, 12:29:04 AM
*Originally Posted by SnowOwl [+]
As has been said many times before... this bike is intentionally designed for high torque and limited HP to be compliant with the A2 licensing limit in some countries.  So, no, Honda is not going to tweak it for more HP.  They did up the torque, but not the HP so as to stay within the A2 limits.  If you must have more HP then this is not the bike for you.
:047: :211: :047: :211: :047: :211: :047: :211:  :047: :210: :047: :460:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on January 11, 2019, 01:28:30 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
:047: :211: :047: :211: :047: :211: :047: :211:  :047: :210: :047: :460:

 :462:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on January 11, 2019, 02:38:10 PM
Yeah if you want a more powerful CB500X you're basically looking at a V Strom 650.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on January 11, 2019, 04:43:48 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Yeah if you want a more powerful CB500X you're basically looking at a V Strom 650.

I felt my 2005 650 strom was a bit of a boat. If I was stepping up into a larger bike, but not full liter, I would probably go with the Tiger 800. More power than the 650, more ground clearance and 21" front wheel option. Also, the inline triple, from my experience, is easier to work on than the V engine configuration. The weight is similar on the two bikes if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on January 11, 2019, 06:20:50 PM
What we need is a 650 twin with about 70bhp, top notch suspension, spoked 18/21 wheels (or 17/19), seat height no more than 830mm, wet weight of 200kgs, decent dash but no fancy modes/electronic suspension and made by Honda! Not bothered about super long travel suspension or lots of ground clearance, seat height, low weight and manageability are more important.

If Honda made something like that I'd pay £10k for it any day. I'll probably have to compromise and get a 2019 with Rally Raid wheels and suspension though!!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on January 11, 2019, 06:27:28 PM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
What we need is a 650 twin with about 70bhp, top notch suspension, spoked 18/21 wheels (or 17/19), seat height no more than 830mm, wet weight of 200kgs, decent dash but no fancy modes/electronic suspension and made by Honda! Not bothered about super long travel suspension or lots of ground clearance, seat height, low weight and manageability are more important.

If Honda made something like that I'd pay £10k for it any day. I'll probably have to compromise and get a 2019 with Rally Raid wheels and suspension though!!

You've basically described the new Yamaha 700 Tenere there Japes...

I don't know why everyone [on the internet] is obsessed with every manufacturer making exactly the same thing as another manufacturer does - especially when that manufacturer already does the thing they do well?

Jx

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: SnowOwl on January 11, 2019, 06:30:51 PM
*Originally Posted by JMo [+]
I don't know why everyone [on the internet] is obsessed with every manufacturer making exactly the same thing as another manufacturer does - especially when that manufacturer already does the thing they do well?

Jx
:460:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on January 11, 2019, 06:56:28 PM
Jenny, I did initially think the Tenere might be an option but it's way too high for me. I use my bikes off road but suspension quality is more important than long travel to me and a low seat height even more so. My long term off road tool has 18/21 wheels, weighs 165kgs and has a seat height of 770mm. It's been to places no Tenere, GS, AT, or CB-X could ever get. Unfortunately it's only got 18bhp and a top speed of 60mph with a tail wind so it's a bit restrictive for long journeys!!

I'll definitely give the Tenere a look over but I'm a bit of a Honda fan and I really liked my CB-X. The updated model has a lot of the improvements I wanted so there is a good chance I'll go for one and wait for the RR upgrades. I also have a hankering for the new Triumph Street Scrambler but I realise that is even more faux off road than the CB!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on January 11, 2019, 10:43:51 PM
*Originally Posted by SnowOwl [+]
As has been said many times before... this bike is intentionally designed for high torque and limited HP to be compliant with the A2 licensing limit in some countries.  So, no, Honda is not going to tweak it for more HP.  They did up the torque, but not the HP so as to stay within the A2 limits.  If you must have more HP then this is not the bike for you.

True...but you can always dream... :001: The old CB 500 (499cc, 8v parallel twin ) pumped out a shade below 58 standard...considerably more if you tuned it. 20Kgs lighter, also. They used to race them in the Thunder Sport 500 Cup....probably did about 20mpg though

I think if Honda had a mind to they could do an A2 compliant and a full blown...they won't though, as it'll take sales off other models
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CaptainBart45 on January 12, 2019, 02:47:23 AM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
What we need is a 650 twin with about 70bhp, top notch suspension, spoked 18/21 wheels (or 17/19), seat height no more than 830mm, wet weight of 200kgs, decent dash but no fancy modes/electronic suspension and made by Honda! Not bothered about super long travel suspension or lots of ground clearance, seat height, low weight and manageability are more important.

If Honda made something like that I'd pay £10k for it any day. I'll probably have to compromise and get a 2019 with Rally Raid wheels and suspension though!!
BMW 700GS. 2018 was the last of em. 2019 the 750GS is in the $14,000 US. You can find a good 2015 or so for around 8,500ish
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on January 12, 2019, 10:58:03 AM
*Originally Posted by Jonathan [+]
......….The old CB 500 (499cc, 8v parallel twin ) pumped out a shade below 58 standard...considerably more if you tuned it. 20Kgs lighter, also. They used to race them in the Thunder Sport 500 Cup....

We still have Thundersport CB500 class racing at Knockhill - great stuff too.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on January 12, 2019, 01:36:04 PM
CaptainBart, yes the F700 is on my list of possibles, in fact I almost bought one in 2013 but got the CB-X instead.

I'm really after a new bike so thought the F750 might be the answer but when I looked at it its just way too big and heavy.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on January 12, 2019, 02:01:11 PM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
CaptainBart, yes the F700 is on my list of possibles, in fact I almost bought one in 2013 but got the CB-X instead.

I'm really after a new bike so thought the F750 might be the answer but when I looked at it its just way too big and heavy.

I keep coming to the same conclusion with many bikes, they all end up being too heavy for what they are. My Tracer 900 is only 210kg wet, lighter than many of the lesser powered bikes.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CaptainBart45 on January 13, 2019, 11:27:25 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
I keep coming to the same conclusion with many bikes, they all end up being too heavy for what they are. My Tracer 900 is only 210kg wet, lighter than many of the lesser powered bikes.
  Yep, I am waiting to see the actual price of the 2019 500x. I haven't put my 2004 R1150R up for sale yet...
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on January 15, 2019, 03:05:47 PM
*Originally Posted by CaptainBart45 [+]
  Yep, I am waiting to see the actual price of the 2019 500x. I haven't put my 2004 R1150R up for sale yet...

$7599.00 Canadian MSRP.

https://motorcycle.honda.ca/model/adventure/cb500x
 

At today's rate that's $5700+ American...so I'd guess At Most they will want maybe $5999.00- $6100.00  MSRP?


mid to late May delivery according to my dealer...
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CaptainBart45 on January 15, 2019, 03:24:36 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
$7599.00 Canadian MSRP.

https://motorcycle.honda.ca/model/adventure/cb500x
 

At today's rate that's $5700+ American...so I'd guess At Most they will want maybe $5999.00- $6100.00  MSRP?


mid to late May delivery according to my dealer...
Thank You! That is great news.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on January 15, 2019, 03:51:37 PM
*Originally Posted by CaptainBart45 [+]
Thank You! That is great news.

it really is!

all the upgrades and only a couple of hundred bucks  jump in price.

Keep in mind the Canadian version is ABS, all bikes in Canada seem to be ABS now. I think the USA will still sell non ABS bikes (anyone know for sure?) so it could even be a bit cheaper!

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on January 15, 2019, 04:31:02 PM
*Originally Posted by CaptainBart45 [+]
Thank You! That is great news.


oooohh. I am probably really low on my guess :187: :187: :187: :187:. the USA 2018 abs is $6899.00MSRP..

http://powersports.honda.com/2018/cb500x/options.aspx

add the 300 bux increase (if it's similar to the Canadian price increase).so I guess it's likely closer to $7200.00 that's $9553.00 CAD!!!!!!

that's weird. it's more expensive in the US than Canada. that isn't usually how it works. :431:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: grewen on January 15, 2019, 08:12:59 PM
that's the same with trucks. i built a 2019 superduty on both Canadian and American sites and it's a lot cheaper in canada. for once it's good to be a canuck. plus our trade in was worth a lot more because it went straight to auction in the states so we win on both ends
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Revoflyer on January 25, 2019, 08:33:11 PM
Awesome sound !! - but top speed must have been in a headwind...I hope. Notice how RPM's at the end is not even close to max HP at 8600

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: grewen on January 25, 2019, 08:54:31 PM
sounds good, must need to tweek the gearing a tad to get the rpm up at the top speed :046:d
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on January 26, 2019, 04:51:37 PM
Why isn't it may yet!!!!!!!

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on February 01, 2019, 07:30:14 PM
Not the X but Mr. Fish tests out the all new CB500F.


Interesting it had Pilot Road 5 tyres, would be great if they are fitted as standard.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on February 02, 2019, 01:26:05 AM
*Originally Posted by Revoflyer [+]
Awesome sound !! - but top speed must have been in a headwind...I hope. Notice how RPM's at the end is not even close to max HP at 8600


Great find! I'm looking forward to seeing more of the bike this year. Seems like it'll be a good evolution of the beloved X.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on February 02, 2019, 05:03:23 AM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Not the X but Mr. Fish tests out the all new CB500F.


Interesting it had Pilot Road 5 tyres, would be great if they are fitted as standard.


I love the little shout out at the end..."I know the X is gonna be brilliant"


I was having buyers remorse because I could have saved a bunch buying a 2018 the dealer had...and even though I knew Honda would get it right, what if they didn't?



..hearing this review has made me feel better...
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Revoflyer on February 02, 2019, 04:56:50 PM
Finally a real review (..and with subtitles)

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CaptainBart45 on February 02, 2019, 07:15:12 PM
A motor guard protecting the exhaust in front is going to deflect heat back at the engine?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CaptainBart45 on February 03, 2019, 07:18:25 AM
I guess I may be over thinking it...
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CaptainBart45 on February 03, 2019, 07:44:31 AM
I am leaning towards the versys 300, talk me out of it?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on February 03, 2019, 04:05:03 PM
*Originally Posted by CaptainBart45 [+]
I am leaning towards the versys 300, talk me out of it?


I was looking at the VX300 too....It's a great looking bike.A lot of people doing amazing things on that bike.

 I'm a big fat guy and just don't think the VX has enough grunt to haul my fat ass around. so after looking at the old dinosaurs(KLR 650), the bigger more expensive, more expensive to insure, ADV bikes, I chose the Honda. the extra HP and Torque of the CB500x while still fitting in that  under 500cc category was the selling point....well that and the fact that the VX needs 2 gears and hitting 13,000 revs just to get across an intersection....


But I wouldn't talk you out of it, a lot of people having a lot of fun on that machine... so I'd suggest you take both for a test ride and see which feels better.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: lesmeister on February 03, 2019, 04:40:22 PM
Sunday, February 3, 2019 > Tested a VX300, and @ 200 pounds (90K)+- , it just doesn't have the Oomph to do the job as an all round bike for the type of riding done the southeast US, especially if it is your only bike.  Not a fan of larger ADV bikes, but do think a 500 to 750CC engine size makes more sense, particularly if the total wet weight can be kept under 400 pounds (180K).  You Get More Fun Factor With Less Weight.

OK, got some info and new questions.

Recently talked with a local Honda dealer about when he expected to have a price and a for sale delivery date on the 2019 CB500X.  He contacted his district sales rep and was told not to look for them until late summer or early fall.  This is much later than reported at the time of release in Italy, December 2018-January 2019 for the price/delivery schedule info, and expected to be at dealers in the spring of 2019.

Deliveries of 2019 bikes to US dealers in the late summer/early fall would seem to be counterproductive for sales in the current calendar year.  The US Honda site still does not show a ‘Build & Price’ for several of their ‘ADV’ bikes.  This does not bode well for a spring release of these bikes.

Read that dealers in Canada should have their bikes in March of 2019.  Are deliveries and sales being made in other countries that have exceeded the projected numbers, and that is causing the late availability in the US?  Haven’t seen any reports, riding reviews and/or comparison tests to indicate the bike has been delivered anywhere.

Wonder what is delaying the US price/release info, and why so little info about aftermarket product availably has been posted on the ‘NET’?  Seems to me that no news, good or bad, is ultimately bad news for the release of a new product.
 ‘hpd’ (herr professor doctor) lesmeister
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on February 03, 2019, 05:33:45 PM
*Originally Posted by CaptainBart45 [+]
A motor guard protecting the exhaust in front is going to deflect heat back at the engine?

Hi Capt' - the main problem, as it is with the current bikes - is there is very little room in front of the header pipes (once the suspension compresses and the wheel moves up and backwards) for an engine guard to enclose the headers anyway...

In practice, the headers on the current model are not really susceptible to damage anyway - unless you misjudged a log crossing perhaps - and there are plenty of bikes that have been used hard off-road (mine included, you may have seen the Rubicon video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7jpOMaGnps)) with no damage to the headers... basically that part of the bike is up and over anything before the headers have a chance to touch, it's far more likely that the underbelly (sump) is going to take the brunt of any impact.

for info. the Rally-Raid engine guard [as fitted to my bike] has an alloy shield behind the headers to protect the oil filter and front of the engine cases from debris, which is far more essential than the potential odd ding in the header.

With regard to your original question - yes, a fully enclosed [ie. unvented] engine guard can restrict the [cooling] airflow around the lower engine cases (potentially raising the oil temperature a few degrees in the sump) and this could well be exacerbated if the headers were also contained within those confines too - although as long as the rear of the guard/shield was open, any residual heat would still be able to escape either side of the crank cases...

Personally I wouldn't worry about the headers, even though the [revised shape of them] does look a little more vulnerable on the 2019-bikes than before perhaps...

Jx

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CaptainBart45 on February 04, 2019, 02:34:42 PM
*Originally Posted by JMo [+]
Hi Capt' - the main problem, as it is with the current bikes - is there is very little room in front of the header pipes (once the suspension compresses and the wheel moves up and backwards) for an engine guard to enclose the headers anyway...

In practice, the headers on the current model are not really susceptible to damage anyway - unless you misjudged a log crossing perhaps - and there are plenty of bikes that have been used hard off-road (mine included, you may have seen the Rubicon video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7jpOMaGnps)) with no damage to the headers... basically that part of the bike is up and over anything before the headers have a chance to touch, it's far more likely that the underbelly (sump) is going to take the brunt of any impact.

for info. the Rally-Raid engine guard [as fitted to my bike] has an alloy shield behind the headers to protect the oil filter and front of the engine cases from debris, which is far more essential than the potential odd ding in the header.

With regard to your original question - yes, a fully enclosed [ie. unvented] engine guard can restrict the [cooling] airflow around the lower engine cases (potentially raising the oil temperature a few degrees in the sump) and this could well be exacerbated if the headers were also contained within those confines too - although as long as the rear of the guard/shield was open, any residual heat would still be able to escape either side of the crank cases...

Personally I wouldn't worry about the headers, even though the [revised shape of them] does look a little more vulnerable on the 2019-bikes than before perhaps...

Thanks! That was a great video. That was the 500x being pushed to the extreme limits for sure. Just about all my questions answered. This bike does seem to be capable on both the desert trails and backroads of Arizona.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Trailrunner on February 04, 2019, 04:31:46 PM
I enjoyed the video, Great job Jenny showing it can be a tuff little bike. Great riding by the way
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ksmoker2 on February 05, 2019, 01:50:41 AM
Just heard ordering will be available in March for May delivery here in the US
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Revoflyer on February 15, 2019, 02:15:56 AM
Ok - pretty decent speed. About 25 km/hr faster than the last guy who tried .....  :152:

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on February 15, 2019, 05:26:10 AM
Press embargo ended today I guess? just found a review.


http://www.tuttosport.com/news/motori/due-ruote/prove/2019/02/15-53366182/honda_cb500x_2019_la_prova_su_strada/?cookieAccept

google translate says it's an "elusive ferret" so that's good.....I think....... :033:



Honda CB500X 2019, the road test
We have tested the new version of the Japanese crossover on the enthralling routes of the island of Tenerife. Here's how it goes ...


TENERIFE - It has an X printed on tank and is proposed as an easy two-cylinder, made with care, perfect for those who have obtained the A2 license and want to adventure; without neglecting all those who (even with a certain experience of motorcycling behind them) are looking for a practical, day-by-day, economical and fun way. Now in its third generation, Honda CB500X is renewed but does not distort the goodness of a proven and successful project in sales data. We flew to Tenerife, the island of eternal spring, to test it on routes, asphalted or not, that draw spirals, to the conquest of the imposing Teide, with its 3,718 meters, one of the highest volcanoes in the world.

ON THE FRONT OF DESIGN, perhaps it will not have the daring charm of an Africa Twin, but the reference to the globetrotter of Casa does not lack, with captivating lines, as a globetrotter, characterized by a balance between solidity and dynamism. Overall, a well-proportioned vehicle, able to "dress" riders of all sizes without giving the impression of an "entry level".

AS REGARDS THE TECHNIQUE, the most important innovation is certainly the arrival of the 19 '' front wheel, which is accompanied by the choice to install suspensions of greater excursion to facilitate the off-road driving. The 41 mm telescopic fork, adjustable in the spring preload, has an increased stroke compared to the previous model (+10 mm) and is now equal to 150 mm. Also increased the rear travel (+17 mm), which goes from 118 to 135 mm. As far as tire size is concerned, behind it is confirmed 160/60-R17 while front becomes now 110/80-R19: the original equipment tires are the Dunlop Trailmax Mixtour with slotted on / off.

THE ENGINE, a two-cylinder parallel liquid cooled 8 valve, was revised to increase the torque and power values ​​between 3,000 and 7,000 rpm, while remaining equal the maximum power of 48 HP (35 kW), to allow the driving with the A2 license. The tank now has a capacity of 17.5 liters and, according to the declared consumption figures of 28.6 km / l (average WMTC cycle), the autonomy reaches almost 500 km (495 to be exact).

TO MAXIMIZE THE COMFORT OF MARCIA, the aerodynamics has also been updated to make the air flow better around the fairing and the windscreen. Furthermore, the saddle profile is now slimmer, thanks to a more rounded shape that allows you to place your feet on the ground with greater ease.

THE NEW LCD INSTRUMENTATION includes the gear indicator on and the new Shift-Up shift indicator, set at 8,750 rpm but adjustable between 5,000 and 8,750 rpm. The tubular support bracket for the windscreen makes it possible to easily mount the navigation system in front of the pilot.

ROAD TEST - An entry level bike, the CB500X, which does not lack personality. Practice in everyday use, good qualities as a passista, but also unexpectedly fun on an all-curved path, where, with a bit of "handle" he can pull out his nails. The driving position is comfortable, just like you expect on a crossover, while the fairing also protects well at highway speeds. Green light also to travel in pairs, thanks to the good portion of saddle reserved for the passenger. But if these are all-out characteristics expected, given the type of vehicle, where the CB500X leaves pleasantly surprised, it is precisely where you least expect it: dynamic performance on the most guided routes and easy off-road excursions.

PUSHING STRONG on a beautiful route, you have fun, and not a little, without too much effort. The two-cylinder, although the horses available are not those of a superbike, you can be scrambled with generosity, stretching between one curve and the other, well supported by the change always fluid and precise. The braking is convincing, despite the single front disc, and the suspension is fine. In the tight mix, the Honda crossover, thanks to the driving position and the excellent lever offered by the handlebars, turns into an elusive ferret. And only on sloping uphill slopes would you want to have a bit of "engine" more out of the corner (probably, in the 650 version and with a few more horsepower, this bike would make the joy of so many devourers of steps) .

IN OFFROAD, compared to the previous model, we clearly notice the effort of the Japanese House to increase the "adventure" factor of the CB500X. On a path of medium difficulty, such as that faced during the test, you stand up on the platforms without problems. In short, the classic "off course panorama" is perfectly within reach.

ACCESS DOOR TO THE WORLD OF "ADVENTUROUS", in conclusion, ease and great versatility are safe

 :001: :001: :001:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on February 15, 2019, 08:27:58 AM
*Originally Posted by Revoflyer [+]
Ok - pretty decent speed. About 25 km/hr faster than the last guy who tried .....  :152:

I kinda like the sound of the new exhaust. Dunno how they've managed to do that, but it has a very god sound compared to earlier models.
And that inverse LCD dash is just fab.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on February 15, 2019, 02:26:11 PM
And let the reviews begin. It's a good year for the X.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: sloopjonbee on February 18, 2019, 08:10:04 PM
Loads of reviews out there after the press launch in Tenerife....non in English yet though.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=cb500x&sp=CAI%253D
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: sloopjonbee on February 18, 2019, 08:11:59 PM
This is the 500X specific one...in German

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on February 19, 2019, 09:31:12 PM
 :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Revoflyer on February 20, 2019, 04:52:03 AM
In English - but a short.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lethal on February 20, 2019, 08:59:05 AM
Thx for the vid link Revo.

interesting watching the vid when the bikes are on the black stuff.  The guy in the yellow jacket is obviously a dirt rider!  Counter leaning is fine on the dirt but a good recipe for a hi-side on the road!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on February 20, 2019, 02:09:58 PM
*Originally Posted by Revoflyer [+]
In English - but a short.


Nice share  :821:

I'm really liking the restyling of the this model.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on February 20, 2019, 10:40:49 PM
*Originally Posted by Lethal [+]
Thx for the vid link Revo.

interesting watching the vid when the bikes are on the black stuff.  The guy in the yellow jacket is obviously a dirt rider!  Counter leaning is fine on the dirt but a good recipe for a hi-side on the road!

Well spotted! :001:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on February 21, 2019, 04:05:20 AM
New to Forum, here's my contribution. The BEST DAMN 2019 CB500X Video Review... trailer for now, will update when they upload full video review

Moto Magazine Greece (use googletranslate)
https://www.motomag.gr/news/apostoli/honda-cb500x-f-2019-odigoyme-stin-ispania-video

Video (turn up your speakers)
Riders: Steve Plater (Isle of Man TT Champ) & Thanos Ambr. Feluka (from Moto Mag Gr)


.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on February 21, 2019, 07:42:55 PM
The new exhaust makes it sound more high strung at higher revs, not sure but I think it sounds kinda tinny.  :021:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Gills on February 22, 2019, 02:53:37 PM
A glowing report on Visordown: https://www.visordown.com/reviews/first-ride/honda-cb500x-2019-review (https://www.visordown.com/reviews/first-ride/honda-cb500x-2019-review)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Revoflyer on February 22, 2019, 04:41:23 PM
Thanks for sharing - great review  :062:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on February 22, 2019, 06:45:22 PM
Sweet review. Thanks.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on February 22, 2019, 10:20:39 PM
 :104: :104:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ewryly on February 22, 2019, 10:32:15 PM
It just makes me want the dang snow to go away so I can ride anything!   :003:  :161:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on February 23, 2019, 01:10:06 AM
Just came across this. Looks nice kitted up with some boxes.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.imgur.com/OuyR7Fx.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on February 23, 2019, 05:45:31 AM
Really just like a mini Africa twin. thanks
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on February 23, 2019, 09:24:15 AM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Just came across this. Looks nice kitted up with some boxes.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.imgur.com/OuyR7Fx.jpg)

Damn!  That looks good!!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: richardbd on February 23, 2019, 10:49:31 AM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
Damn!  That looks good!!

It would look a lot better without the Deliveroo box on the back!

 :151: :151:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: lesmeister on February 23, 2019, 03:47:20 PM
It's pregnant and big enough to be twins  :005: part of the new Honda production process.   :080:
..........  ’hpd' (herr professor doctor) lesmeister
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Kindai on February 23, 2019, 04:00:09 PM
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/cb500x.jpg)

My Honda dealership took delivery of new 2019 bikes last Wednesday (UK), my bike here is in the workshop getting looked over for before going on the road, I'll take delivery next Friday. Will post some more pics and 1st ride update when I get a chance.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on February 23, 2019, 04:01:37 PM
N I C E !!  :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on February 23, 2019, 04:28:43 PM
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_2004.jpg)
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_3443.jpg)

That engine and sump is completely exposed, no going off road without a bash plate.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: UKJeeper on February 23, 2019, 05:33:03 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]

That engine and sump is completely exposed, no going off road without a bash plate.

Before I even scrolled down and saw what you wrote, i though.... "vulnerable"...
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on February 23, 2019, 06:13:11 PM
I think with the move towards more off road ("19 Wheel)that they would have included some kind of protection.......  :187:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on February 23, 2019, 06:28:25 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
I think with the move towards more off road ("19 Wheel)that they would have included some kind of protection.......  :187:

The problem with all OEM bash-plates, is that they are basically rubbish...

Certainly in the case of an underslung/suspended engine like the CB has, you need something substantial to protect the sump from an impact, and not just a shield bolted to the crank-cases... so personally I think it's wise of Honda not to include anything that might lull you into a false sense of security?

Personally I'd rather not have to spend money on something I'm just going to replace anyway (which also has the benefit of helping to keep the base price low), and I'm sure you'll see a number of aftermarket companies start to produce something for the CB now that it is being pitched as a slightly more serious all-terrain option* by Honda themselves...

And you'll be able to get a pukka cradle style engine guard too from the usual suspects of course ;o)

Jx

*funny how adding a 19" front wheel suddenly makes this bike a contender in the eyes of public eh?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Rexelstar on February 23, 2019, 07:34:27 PM
Always wonder how many of these aftermarket parts are actually sold..
This in percentage of the total X bikes sold by Honda.
Does RR sell hundreds of bash plates in a year? How high is the percentage riders that really do ride (only) off-road with this bike. A few dozen..hundreds ?

BTW just seen the oil pan offered new nos for € 36,10 in asia excluded shipping and other duties... It's weight is light enough to take one as spare when needed;)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/oil-pan-honda-cb500x-2016-2017-2018-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on February 23, 2019, 09:49:14 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
I think with the move towards more off road ("19 Wheel)that they would have included some kind of protection.......  :187:

Rant begins....

That 19" wheel irritates me, to be frank. It's not an offroad wheel - it's a frankenstein hybrid, made to a price and designed for marketing appeal, not performance. I've read journos praising the bike for having an enlarged and redesigned 'spoked' wheel. It's a cast wheel. It will still snap in an offroad stress situation, whereas a true offroad wheel (with genuine spokes) will flex.

Meh... rant done. :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on February 23, 2019, 10:20:12 PM
*Originally Posted by JMo [+]
...

I'm sure you'll see a number of aftermarket companies start to produce something for the CB now that it is being pitched as a slightly more serious all-terrain option* by Honda themselves...
...

*funny how adding a 19" front wheel suddenly makes this bike a contender in the eyes of public eh?

I certainly hope that is the case. The Versys X 300 saw a lot of vendors put effort into creating product within its first year of sale.
I hope that effort is also put on the new 2019 CB500X

Bigger front wheel is why im here after years of lurking (sure im not the only one). Was excited with the 2014 CB500X's because of the adventure hype, checked it out and it was a no go. 2016 CB500X's getting "updates".. great but not the really news worthy updates I hoped for.
Fast forward to EICMA '18 and the shock surprise of the 2019 CBX getting a bigger front wheel + other great/modern updates.
I'm in, The 2019 CB500X is now an adventure bike out of the crate.

BTW, fan of you Jenny and RRP, as you and others have stated, we all know where Honda got the inspiration :132: for these improvements.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lethal on February 23, 2019, 10:25:11 PM
Appreciate what you are saying uku383. 

Some will see the 19 inch front wheel as "half pregnant".  But it does depend on your interpretation of "adventure" riding.   I have no intention of treating the X as a trail/motocross bike like some are prone to try.  But I do enjoy riding on secondary and dirt roads; and trails.  I do think the 19 inch would be a benefit when riding dirt roads that are not in good shape.  Back in the day, those of us into what is now described as adventure riding used to do it with road bikes!  It is a matter of traveling at an appropriate speed for the bike and the conditions.

ende counter-rant!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on February 23, 2019, 10:38:46 PM
*Originally Posted by uku383 [+]
Rant begins....

That 19" wheel irritates me, to be frank. It's not an offroad wheel - it's a frankenstein hybrid, made to a price and designed for marketing appeal, not performance. I've read journos praising the bike for having an enlarged and redesigned 'spoked' wheel. It's a cast wheel. It will still snap in an offroad stress situation, whereas a true offroad wheel (with genuine spokes) will flex.

Meh... rant done. :008:

True, the 19" is not an offroad wheel but the CB500X is not an offroad bike. How many CB500X 17's have you heard snapping off. The CB500 lineup is built in a developing nation, used in their roads and it doesn't have a problem. With the 5.5" or so travel, you will not find yourself riding the CBX fast in extreme rough terrain. If anything you will get bucked off the bike before the wheels suffers damage

For this type of bike the cast 19" is a much better option.
Cast - Easier to plug and zero maintenance
19" - rolls over objects easier and the skinnier tire to cut through the soft stuff (vs the fatter shorter front tire washing out)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on February 24, 2019, 12:05:29 AM
I do not ride off road. The bigger front wheel looks good how ever I couldn't care less about it. In fact since the seat height is higher now I will have to wait no see what kind of lowering kits are available if I am to consider the new bike. Af far as protection of the engine is concerned I'd like to have something that keeps the crud and small debris from hitting the engine, which the existing plastics on my 2014 do a decent job of off. I'm sure aftermarket will produce a light weight plate soon enough. However the seat height is a killer for me.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on February 24, 2019, 03:56:37 PM
I do ride offroad about 70% of the time. I also have to travel really bad gravel/dirt roads. I like the 19-inch wheel but my 17 incher has proven sturdy enough for the riding I do. A steering stabilizer would help more I think for offroad.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Rally Raid on February 24, 2019, 07:47:55 PM
Just got our 2019 model here at Rally Raid, test rode yesterday, love the new flat screen display and the 19" front wheel makes it turn lighter. The slipper clutch makes clutch less changes a snitch, no juddering on quick downshifts.
Stripped the forks out, shock tomorrow and a full video and report later this week, very excited about the new bike.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Rally Raid on February 24, 2019, 07:51:55 PM
*Originally Posted by Rexelstar [+]
Always wonder how many of these aftermarket parts are actually sold..
This in percentage of the total X bikes sold by Honda.
Does RR sell hundreds of bash plates in a year? How high is the percentage riders that really do ride (only) off-road with this bike. A few dozen..hundreds ?

BTW just seen the oil pan offered new nos for € 36,10 in asia excluded shipping and other duties... It's weight is light enough to take one as spare when needed;)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/oil-pan-honda-cb500x-2016-2017-2018-1.jpg)

Yes, we sell over 100 engine guards per year, and I don't see carrying an oil sump as a "spare" a viable option, if you damage that part on the trail, you would also need a gasket and all the oil to replace what you lose, assuming nothing internally gets damaged
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Rexelstar on February 24, 2019, 08:29:39 PM
Thanks for the reply!
These are nice figures, they sell themselves I see.
Great solid stuff always sells themselves without extra advertising ;)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: UKJeeper on February 24, 2019, 09:29:28 PM
Said it before, saying it again, the RR engine guard is probably the most important upgrade you can make if/when you turn off the tarmac and venture off road. That £245 item saved me (IMO) multiple times both while green laning here in the UK, and while in the middle of nowhere, miles from help (and a recovery truck) while riding across the US. Not only does it deflect sizable rocks and chunks of tree, it works as a skid plate to help you slide along when the ruts get too deep.

I beat the shi... nola out of mine, dented the tubes and bent the plates. But it held, saving the above mentioned sump from damage and breakage.

And when I get home, I took it off, beat straight again, repainted it and put it back on.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on February 24, 2019, 10:05:15 PM
Looking forward to seeing the RR report about the new bike and strip down of the suspension. I'd be looking at getting spoked wheels and standard suspension upgrades so it will be interesting to see how long before they are available. Also probably go with the sump guard and any redesigned footrest hangers etc. I must find out when my dealer has one in for a test ride to see if I still want one after all this time!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on February 25, 2019, 12:21:20 AM
*Originally Posted by Rally Raid [+]
...
Stripped the forks out, shock tomorrow and a full video and report later this week, very excited about the new bike.

Awesome! Gives us something to see while we wait for the North American arrival

Question hopefully you guys can answer in report/video
Are the 2019 forks internals the same as the previous models?? Shock we know its different - going from twintube to monotube.
Did the 2019 get the additional (small and questionable) 10mm/17mm travel gains?? Finally settle the confusion
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on February 25, 2019, 01:12:37 AM
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
Awesome! Gives us something to see while we wait for the North American arrival

Question hopefully you guys can answer in report/video
Are the 2019 forks internals the same as the previous models?? Shock we know its different - going from twintube to monotube.
Did the 2019 get the additional (small and questionable) 10mm/17mm travel gains?? Finally settle the confusion


On another thread he replied. Looks like +10mm up front.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on February 27, 2019, 11:16:55 AM
Nice review - https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/bikes/honda/honda-cb500x-2019-review
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: PIGLET on February 28, 2019, 08:02:10 AM
I get my new Honda cb500x 2019 on the 8th of march from Newcastle Honda Scotswood road UK
with main stand, light bar. fog lights, acc socket and looking forward to it but not the running in bit  :003: so need to do 600 miles quick and then i can enjoy it.    :046: :046: :152: .
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on February 28, 2019, 08:09:03 AM
My bike goes off the road for the winter (not interested in riding in the cold and the wet!), but I now have that same excited feeling for the bike going back on the road TOMORROW!!  :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on February 28, 2019, 11:39:01 AM
*Originally Posted by PIGLET [+]
I get my new Honda cb500x 2019 on the 8th of march from Newcastle Honda Scotswood road UK
with main stand, light bar. fog lights, acc socket and looking forward to it but not the running in bit  :003: so need to do 600 miles quick and then i can enjoy it.    :046: :046: :152: .

600 miles? Road trip!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on February 28, 2019, 11:46:06 AM
I'm starting to feel a liiiiitle bit envious of those with the new bike. Still, I reckon I can squeeze a few more km out of Old Faithful before considering a new ride. I do love my bike.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on February 28, 2019, 02:11:18 PM
*Originally Posted by uku383 [+]
I'm starting to feel a liiiiitle bit envious of those with the new bike. Still, I reckon I can squeeze a few more km out of Old Faithful before considering a new ride. I do love my bike.

No one would fault you for swapping. After all, you have one of the most well used CB500Xs out there.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Marv_ on February 28, 2019, 02:47:52 PM
Think it's mainly the display which I'm envious of. Other areas are a nice progression from previous models.

Sounds like Honda have done a good job 👍
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on February 28, 2019, 03:02:59 PM
Quick review from MCN's Michael Neeves

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: PIGLET on February 28, 2019, 03:19:11 PM
8 DAYS TO GO THEN I CAN PLAY  :152: :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on February 28, 2019, 03:27:31 PM
 :156:

Lots of reviews coming out now... All carrying on with the love this bike has been getting since pretty much day 1.

Getting Giddy.

Can't wait for my new toy.
Dealer still says mid May for delivery.........
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Kindai on March 02, 2019, 06:24:06 AM
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_20190301_185218_721.jpg)

Took delivery yesterday of this fine steed. Its my first bike that I own, but I've ridden various other bikes. I trained on a Honda NC750, and this CB500X seems to be more agile and has just as, if not more torque. I'm 5'8 or 172.5cm tall with 31inch inseam, and I'm tippy toes to the floor, which is fine, but no flat footing here. The gearbox is so smooth, up and down shift just glide, and the clutch bite is very light, making gear shifts effortless. My first ride was a joy, can't wait to get back on the bike. 😜
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: PIGLET on March 02, 2019, 08:29:08 AM
Nice mine is the same in white and get mine on 8th of march, i am 62 and had about 40 bikes in my bike life and look forward to this one.
I am 5ft 10in with 32 inch inseam so it will be perfect for me, enjoy your steed and ride safe. :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on March 02, 2019, 08:52:51 AM
Great looking bike!!  :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: blumtnman on March 02, 2019, 11:18:26 AM
Looks really good in the white. Enjoy.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 02, 2019, 01:16:10 PM
*Originally Posted by Kindai [+]
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_20190301_185218_721.jpg)

Took delivery yesterday of this fine steed. Its my first bike that I own, but I've ridden various other bikes. I trained on a Honda NC750, and this CB500X seems to be more agile and has just as, if not more torque. I'm 5'8 or 172.5cm tall with 31inch inseam, and I'm tippy toes to the floor, which is fine, but no flat footing here. The gearbox is so smooth, up and down shift just glide, and the clutch bite is very light, making gear shifts effortless. My first ride was a joy, can't wait to get back on the bike. 😜

Congrats! Besides Rally Raid, I think you’re the first one on the forum to get the new bike. Enjoy!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: UnmzldOx on March 02, 2019, 03:14:46 PM
It really stands out in a nice way. Congrats.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on March 02, 2019, 03:30:23 PM
OH SO JEALOUS!!!!!



I Can't wait to take delivery!!!!!!!


The white looks good.

I think it's a great colour. Not offered here in NA...

Not that I mind. I looooove the Grand Prix red with silver, and the Honda Heritage it proudly reflects.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: HerrDeacon on March 02, 2019, 04:10:08 PM
Is that graphic on the top of the tank (tire tread looking one) removable or is it underneath the clear coat?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on March 02, 2019, 06:00:06 PM
Looks like under clear coat to me. It's one of the few minor things I'm not a fan of on the new model.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Aikenrunner on March 02, 2019, 08:02:54 PM
The new bike looks great. I am waiting for them to be released in the US so I can order mine!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: UKJeeper on March 02, 2019, 09:34:15 PM
Took a run up to Northampton this afternoon, to CooperB Motorcycles, to see good mate Nathan talk about his bike travels around the world. Which he did brilliantly. Anyone who successfully rides a Aussie Postal Bike (110cc, 45mph top speed) back to the UK from Sydney, and then across the USA from NY to Alaska has earned my attention and a 200 mile round trip!.

But, was also lucky enough to be invited to have a ride around on the 2019 CB500x, by Rally Raid, before they start bolting their upgrades to it.
Had a great few miles bimbling round Northants. While it still feels similar to my 2017, there are still differences. The bigger (19") front wheel is noticeable, but still feels familiar for someone with an older version of the X. New dash is just FULL of information, gear indicator being a welcome addition. Clutch feels just 'weird' to anyone used to their X. Like grabbing a handful of air compared to ours, but works great.

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/20190302_153317a.jpg)
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/20190302_153323a.jpg)
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/20190302_153337a.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 02, 2019, 10:22:15 PM
Very cool, very jealous  :008:

I've read Nathan's book. I feel that it's in the top 5 moto travel narratives that I've read, alongside Ted Simon's Jupiter's Traves/Riding High and Elspeth Beard's book. It appears that Nathan is deep in the ADV game now. Living the dream.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Kindai on March 02, 2019, 11:47:14 PM
*Originally Posted by HerrDeacon [+]
Is that graphic on the top of the tank (tire tread looking one) removable or is it underneath the clear coat?

The decal is in top and can be removed. It's not my fav either, and looking to replace with something from Rally Raid or another company hopefully.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on March 03, 2019, 01:41:54 AM
*Originally Posted by Aikenrunner [+]
The new bike looks great. I am waiting for them to be released in the US so I can order mine!

You can do that now at some dealers. I think it's a $500 deposit to hold and order.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lethal on March 03, 2019, 02:02:29 AM
The Queensland dealer has just started advertising that the 2019 model will be here soon, whatever that means.  But it would suggest in the next couple of months I suppose.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: blumtnman on March 03, 2019, 03:46:14 AM
NSW dealer told me on Monday end of March. Hopefully they were telling the truth.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on March 03, 2019, 10:18:27 AM
Liking that new 500X look.

UKJeeper, I enjoy your mate Nathan's writing on line and in magazines too.  He seems to have a sensible 'normal guy' approach, unlike some of the journalists who I think get big ideas from riding all those expensive bikes all the time!!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: FlatoutMatt on March 04, 2019, 02:54:28 AM
Most reviews of the 2019 model so far seem pretty fluffy to me.

The one video review I've seen with detailed and fearless observations is the one from Thailand, where the guy points out the obvious (though none of the fluffy reviewers are mentioning it), which is that there is a performance cost on the road in going from a 17" to a 19" front wheel. He found it has a "wiggle" at high speed on the road "It may cause you to fall" and recommends that if you want to ride it fast that "you should adjust the front shock to suit your riding style" or install an aftermarket steering damper.

If there's one thing I would like to hear a lot more about from the early purchasers of the bike, it's this suggestion of a "wiggle" in the 19" front wheel at speed on the road. How pronounced is it, and how much can you reduce it with fixes like a steering damper?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: gavmac on March 04, 2019, 06:02:08 AM
I just took my 2014 in for its 36000 Km service today, found out for Australia price is AU$7999 + orc. AU$300 up on 2018 model.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Smudger on March 04, 2019, 08:35:49 AM
*Originally Posted by FlatoutMatt [+]
Most reviews of the 2019 model so far seem pretty fluffy to me.

The one video review I've seen with detailed and fearless observations is the one from Thailand, where the guy points out the obvious (though none of the fluffy reviewers are mentioning it), which is that there is a performance cost on the road in going from a 17" to a 19" front wheel. He found it has a "wiggle" at high speed on the road "It may cause you to fall" and recommends that if you want to ride it fast that "you should adjust the front shock to suit your riding style" or install an aftermarket steering damper.

If there's one thing I would like to hear a lot more about from the early purchasers of the bike, it's this suggestion of a "wiggle" in the 19" front wheel at speed on the road. How pronounced is it, and how much can you reduce it with fixes like a steering damper?

I recently road tested a 19. Had it out for around an hour on different roads at various speeds. The most i took it up to was 85mph and it was well planted at this speed with no unusual handling issues.
I was really impressed with the bike and bought one.
Whether even higher speeds cause an issue, remains to be seen by me. But its rare for me to ride over 80mph on any bike.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: FlatoutMatt on March 04, 2019, 09:47:35 AM
*Originally Posted by Smudger [+]
I recently road tested a 19. Had it out for around an hour on different roads at various speeds. The most i took it up to was 85mph and it was well planted at this speed with no unusual handling issues.
I was really impressed with the bike and bought one.
Whether even higher speeds cause an issue, remains to be seen by me. But its rare for me to ride over 80mph on any bike.

That's encouraging, Smudger, thanks. 85mph is about my overtaking top speed. I'm wondering if the Thai reviewer meant cornering at high speed?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Smudger on March 04, 2019, 09:58:39 AM
*Originally Posted by FlatoutMatt [+]
That's encouraging, Smudger, thanks. 85mph is about my overtaking top speed. I'm wondering if the Thai reviewer meant cornering at high speed?

There could be various reasons why this reviewer perceived head shake.... Weight of rider with suspension settings not dialed in correctly, tyre pressures, road conditions etc etc.
Plus, if the rider is used to riding the old model, there will obviously be a difference between the handling of 17 & 19 inch fronts.
There was certainly nothing to concern me handling wise on the one i rode, apart from the obvious cheaper suspension, but its a low priced bike, so i made allowances for that.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on March 04, 2019, 11:23:58 AM
What I'm interested in is the wind management of the new bikes.
The new bike seems to have quite a lot of small details to overcome the buffeting of the earlier bikes, but I'd like to hear feedback from those who rode the 19 bikes.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Smudger on March 04, 2019, 11:53:05 AM
*Originally Posted by Oyabun [+]
What I'm interested in is the wind management of the new bikes.
The new bike seems to have quite a lot of small details to overcome the buffeting of the earlier bikes, but I'd like to hear feedback from those who rode the 19 bikes.

I found a lot of buffeting with an 18 model i rode, it really was noticeably bad for me.
The new 19 was a huge improvement for me. Screen was at standard setting and i'm 6'1". Screens are something i've had to change on many bikes, but i'm almost certain i wont have to with this bike.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 04, 2019, 01:59:47 PM
*Originally Posted by Oyabun [+]
What I'm interested in is the wind management of the new bikes.
The new bike seems to have quite a lot of small details to overcome the buffeting of the earlier bikes, but I'd like to hear feedback from those who rode the 19 bikes.

Improvements or styling?  :015:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 04, 2019, 04:41:04 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
You can do that now at some dealers. I think it's a $500 deposit to hold and order.
Since I sold my 2014 I have wanted another-went through three other bikes since my 500X- and the 2019 looks like the one to have so a call to my dealer got me zip he had no idea-next higher up the food chain last Friday Honda USA same zip they have no idea when or how much $$-so it's going to be a wait and see thing---so lets keep this open and the first one to see a 2019 at their dealer-shout it out
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on March 04, 2019, 07:08:32 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Since I sold my 2014 I have wanted another-went through three other bikes since my 500X- and the 2019 looks like the one to have so a call to my dealer got me zip he had no idea-next higher up the food chain last Friday Honda USA same zip they have no idea when or how much $$-so it's going to be a wait and see thing---so lets keep this open and the first one to see a 2019 at their dealer-shout it out


I bet some dealers are taking deposits with the expectations of the 2019 coming to the US. I'm watching the dealers around me.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 04, 2019, 11:20:32 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Since I sold my 2014 I have wanted another-went through three other bikes since my 500X- and the 2019 looks like the one to have so a call to my dealer got me zip he had no idea-next higher up the food chain last Friday Honda USA same zip they have no idea when or how much $$-so it's going to be a wait and see thing---so lets keep this open and the first one to see a 2019 at their dealer-shout it out

Interesting. You'd think that they would have some notion at this point. Is the X really that overlooked?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on March 05, 2019, 04:08:01 AM
*Originally Posted by FlatoutMatt [+]
Most reviews of the 2019 model so far seem pretty fluffy to me.

The one video review I've seen with detailed and fearless observations is the one from Thailand, where the guy points out the obvious (though none of the fluffy reviewers are mentioning it), which is that there is a performance cost on the road in going from a 17" to a 19" front wheel. He found it has a "wiggle" at high speed on the road "It may cause you to fall" and recommends that if you want to ride it fast that "you should adjust the front shock to suit your riding style" or install an aftermarket steering damper.

If there's one thing I would like to hear a lot more about from the early purchasers of the bike, it's this suggestion of a "wiggle" in the 19" front wheel at speed on the road. How pronounced is it, and how much can you reduce it with fixes like a steering damper?

Do you have a link? I don't know about that whole cause you to fall. The tire is taller and slimmer but still on solid cast wheels and street rubber.
Did you see the 2019 CB500X Top Speed video (posted on page 26)? The moto does not look like it was about to tank slap the rider going 140+km/87+miles for most of the run.. And, the rider was a 198lb, 45l aluminum top box loaded with 8kg/17lbs

As for fluffy, they were all taken (all expenses paid  :181:) to the Honda press launch in Tenerife. Some did mention the low HP (acknowledge its due to A2) and single front brake rotor bite.

*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Since I sold my 2014 I have wanted another-went through three other bikes since my 500X- and the 2019 looks like the one to have so a call to my dealer got me zip he had no idea-next higher up the food chain last Friday Honda USA same zip they have no idea when or how much $$-so it's going to be a wait and see thing---so lets keep this open and the first one to see a 2019 at their dealer-shout it out

*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Interesting. You'd think that they would have some notion at this point. Is the X really that overlooked?

My experience is that most US dealers don't know squat about the bikes they sell... let alone when a new model will arrive. People have posted that a dealer told them early February and the date has come and gone. For the other New Honda Model, the CRF250F, dealers were saying late December but it arrived late February.

Yes sir, the X is overlooked in US. Well most bikes than aren't liter plus are overlooked.

My guess the 2019 CB500X goes on sale a couple of weeks after we start seeing US based moto mags press launch reviews posted on the web.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: jojojones on March 05, 2019, 05:35:41 AM
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
My guess the 2019 CB500X goes on sale a couple of weeks after we start seeing US based moto mags press launch reviews posted on the web.

*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
You can do that now at some dealers. I think it's a $500 deposit to hold and order.

please correct me if I'm wrong...I was told by a Honda corporate rep and 2 dealers, any US dealer will always take your deposit money on any day of the week but US dealers can't make a real order until it shows the actual msrp price on the US website...same day it shows US price on the web, the ordering system will allow an order.  The order time window is only the 3rd week of the month (5 days)...so week of 11th or 18 for May delivery now....BUT...2 dealers have been wrong so far on date orders open up and it keeps pushing back...it was to be Feb for April delivery.  If this is incorrect I would like to know more.  Why the US delays?...is there EURO5 stuff that is removed on ours?

Is there any date for a US press launch?

ps...the white looks great...i guess we are not worthy of choice here ;)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: FlatoutMatt on March 05, 2019, 07:11:22 AM
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
Do you have a link? I don't know about that whole cause you to fall. The tire is taller and slimmer but still on solid cast wheels and street rubber.
Did you see the 2019 CB500X Top Speed video (posted on page 26)? The moto does not look like it was about to tank slap the rider going 140+km/87+miles for most of the run.. And, the rider was a 198lb, 45l aluminum top box loaded with 8kg/17lbs

The Thai video review I referred to where the guy talks about a "wiggle" in the front end at speed is posted on page 26 of this thread.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on March 05, 2019, 01:43:55 PM
*Originally Posted by jojojones [+]
please correct me if I'm wrong...I was told by a Honda corporate rep and 2 dealers, any US dealer will always take your deposit money on any day of the week but US dealers can't make a real order until it shows the actual msrp price on the US website...same day it shows US price on the web, the ordering system will allow an order.  The order time window is only the 3rd week of the month (5 days)...so week of 11th or 18 for May delivery now....BUT...2 dealers have been wrong so far on date orders open up and it keeps pushing back...it was to be Feb for April delivery.  If this is incorrect I would like to know more.  Why the US delays?...is there EURO5 stuff that is removed on ours?

Is there any date for a US press launch?

ps...the white looks great...i guess we are not worthy of choice here ;)

You're prolly right on the order of a new bike. I think some of the dealers are a bit overzealous with their deposits for new bikes, ordered or just a place holder.

No idea on the hold ups getting the new CB-X to the NA market.



*Originally Posted by FlatoutMatt [+]
The Thai video review I referred to where the guy talks about a "wiggle" in the front end at speed is posted on page 26 of this thread.

On the pre 2019 models, the "wiggle" in the front end is usually due to several common things, low tire pressures, loose steering head bearings, and usually to little preload on the rear shock. Of course, there are other things that can cause it. These are just the ones that keep coming up on the forum. They may transfer over to the new model.


Does anyone know if Honda dropped the crap steering head bearings in favor or actual roller bearings for 2019?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on March 05, 2019, 02:57:13 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]

No idea on the hold ups getting the new CB-X to the NA market.


It's most likely due to over-stocking by the US importer - currently both the 2018 and 2019 models are listed on the Honda Powersports website, which would suggest there are still plenty of 2018 models in the network/warehouse.

They won't want lots of left-over previous models they will have to discount heavily once the 2019 is on sale.

Jx

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on March 05, 2019, 03:41:13 PM
Anyone else know anything about getting one in Canada?


Our Canadian  Honda 2019 cb500x website went live back in Late December. I called my Honda dealer same day...he called his distributor and in early January was told that there was a "VERY limited 2019 allocation" and I needed to commit "ASAP" to get one. i bit the bullet and ordered, My dealer didn't even take a deposit, just a pre-approved financing.

Last time we talked in mid Feb, I was told there was no new news, but that it still was on track for a May delivery....

I wonder if they are keeping the NA numbers down to help sell off 2018 models, or if it's just a marketing ploy, or maybe there is a supply side issue.........

I'll check back in with my dealer next week and see if any new news has come to light.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on March 05, 2019, 04:46:30 PM
I dropped into a New Zealand dealer when over there recently, and he said it would be late 2019 before they got the new model - I guess to hit the start of their summer.....but maybe it helps to spread out demand if different countries have different release dates?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on March 05, 2019, 10:28:09 PM
A glowing revue.

and it's not a press tour review so nobody's "bought" his review

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Aikenrunner on March 06, 2019, 12:15:53 AM
An enjoyable review no doubt. I really like the shade of red Honda chose for this bike also. I checked with my dealer today and still no availability but hopefully soon.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 06, 2019, 01:41:11 AM
*Originally Posted by JMo [+]
It's most likely due to over-stocking by the US importer - currently both the 2018 and 2019 models are listed on the Honda Powersports website, which would suggest there are still plenty of 2018 models in the network/warehouse.

They won't want lots of left-over previous models they will have to discount heavily once the 2019 is on sale.

Jx
I'm thinking the same a lot of old stock still for sale which needs a heavy rebate to move-the first few years the X was a good seller in my local than dropped way off- I have two Honda dealers in my area one will not stock them anymore the other still has a new 2017 on the floor no 2018 they are just is going to skip that year-the one I deal with is a powerhouse five dealer top of the top and he told me being a powerhouse five dealer they do not order bikes Honda just sends them and he gets a week notice --so again if anyone sees one at a USA dealer shout it out
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 06, 2019, 01:44:45 AM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
A glowing revue.

and it's not a press tour review so nobody's "bought" his review

I like his reviews and Cager on two wheels
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: blumtnman on March 06, 2019, 01:50:32 AM
Mr Fish seems totally in love! Good on him. Every review I read or watch convinces me this is my new bike. Now if only KTMMitch/JMo can come up with a bash plate. And a few RR farkles!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on March 06, 2019, 02:05:55 AM
*Originally Posted by blumtnman [+]
Mr Fish seems totally in love! Good on him. Every review I read or watch convinces me this is my new bike. Now if only KTMMitch/JMo can come up with a bash plate. And a few RR farkles!

Yeah, I have to replace my bike and I've pretty much convinced myself to get the 2019. Only thing is, they haven't arrived in the country yet, and I probably won't be in the saddle until June. Nuts!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: blumtnman on March 06, 2019, 02:10:13 AM
The lot from Western Motorcycles at Penrith are saying end of March, I'm champing at the bit!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on March 06, 2019, 02:28:10 AM
*Originally Posted by blumtnman [+]
The lot from Western Motorcycles at Penrith are saying end of March, I'm champing at the bit!

Let's hope that's the case! They are certainly on a ship!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 06, 2019, 02:47:46 AM
*Originally Posted by blumtnman [+]
Mr Fish seems totally in love! Good on him. Every review I read or watch convinces me this is my new bike. Now if only KTMMitch/JMo can come up with a bash plate. And a few RR farkles!
I just learned Cager on two wheels crashed hard he was testing a Kawasaki Versys 300X-- broke his arm banged up his knee- guess he'll be out of the review game for awhile
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: blumtnman on March 06, 2019, 03:39:00 AM
Ah damn, I always liked his reviews. I wish him all the best.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: oculux on March 06, 2019, 07:01:56 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
I just learned Cager on two wheels crashed hard he was testing a Kawasaki Versys 300X-- broke his arm banged up his knee- guess he'll be out of the review game for awhile

As a novice rider ie <10k total rides I can't imagine how some of these reviewers ride some of these bikes not familiar with the machine's behaviour, attempting to take the bike to slightly (or more) beyond its normal use to assess performance seems very risky to me; and I think it would be easy to make a mistake or over/under estimate capability and get badly injured. The videos to 180km/h + speeds are a good example, even though no person would identify themselves in such videos for obvious reasons - unless they were testing on a private runway (unlikely as most are on public motorways in the videos). Anyway I don't know why I replied really.

Oh that's right I just put down a deposit on one yesterday and was reading this thread for ideas on improving it and addressing any small issues that are known weaknesses on older models etc.

Can't wait.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Smudger on March 06, 2019, 08:54:18 AM
Pretty much agreed with almost all of Mr Fish's review vid there. But seeing as he's 6'2", which is an inch taller than me, i'm surprised he never had the issue i did with not enough seat to peg distance and pegs set too far back.
This was my only complaint about the bike and it wasn't bad enough to stop me buying this bike. Plus getting a higher seating position is an easy fix. I guess i'll get used to the pegs being too far back and maybe there will be a fix for the pegs sometime in the future.
Picking up my one in three days..... i'm as excited about getting this bike, as i have been in the past about getting bikes that have cost twice as much with three times the power.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: cbf1000 on March 06, 2019, 03:13:45 PM
I think Honda are to be congratulated on the 2019 facelift to the CB500X.  They have obviously done their market research and produced a set of well-focussed improvements.  However the new model has been fundamentally flawed for me by the introduction of the 19” front wheel resulting in a deal-breaking rise in seat height to 830mm.  I bought my CB500X because it is one of the few bikes with a low enough seat height at 810mm (and lowering using Lust Racing drop links) to make the bike comfortable for me.  With the lowering and weight of the touring luggage I could get both feet flat.  The rise in seat height effectively excludes me from buying this bike.  Honda have made a fundamental marketing mistake in trying to make the bike more “off road”  they have effectively alienated the less tall (short) rider.  It is a mistake because I believe there are many more short riders buying the bike than those actually riding it off road.  There is an easy solution to this problem.  BMW (F70GS) and Triumph (Tiger 800 XRx Low) both offer low seat factory options – why can’t Honda do this?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: emjare on March 06, 2019, 04:03:43 PM
My local honda dealer has the new 2019 model in so I took a look.
It looks more aggressive somehow it appears bigger (taller really) due to the 19" front wheel and raised rear suspension. I'm 6ft but the new seat height really shows, getting off after a long ride might be problematical but not impossible. The new consul is impressive with the black on white contrast and the gear indicator seams to dominate your view. This very nice and modern but why do we need to know. listen to the engine it will tell you when to change. That said if I had to buy a new bike it would still be a 500x
safe riding everybody
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on March 06, 2019, 04:16:02 PM
*Originally Posted by cbf1000 [+]
I think Honda are to be congratulated on the 2019 facelift to the CB500X.  They have obviously done their market research and produced a set of well-focussed improvements.  However the new model has been fundamentally flawed for me by the introduction of the 19” front wheel resulting in a deal-breaking rise in seat height to 830mm.  I bought my CB500X because it is one of the few bikes with a low enough seat height at 810mm (and lowering using Lust Racing drop links) to make the bike comfortable for me.  With the lowering and weight of the touring luggage I could get both feet flat.  The rise in seat height effectively excludes me from buying this bike.  Honda have made a fundamental marketing mistake in trying to make the bike more “off road”  they have effectively alienated the less tall (short) rider.  It is a mistake because I believe there are many more short riders buying the bike than those actually riding it off road.  There is an easy solution to this problem.  BMW (F70GS) and Triumph (Tiger 800 XRx Low) both offer low seat factory options – why can’t Honda do this?

Hi CBF1000 - I think you are missing the point here - Adventure bikes, by their nature are designed to be all-terrain machines, which requires greater ground clearance than a typical road bike... if all you want is a comfortable road tourer, Honda (and other manufacturers) make different style motorcycles to suit that need.

Consider the comparison the equivalent of an SUV vs a traditional Estate car (or 'stationwagon' for those in the US), which is something the car industry have increasing offered for a while now - offering a wider range of styling/capabilities while using essentially the same underpinnings.

If you particularly like the CB-X styling, I'm sure you'll be able to fit lowering links to the new bike too - but ultimately not every style of bike is going to [physically] suit every size of rider?

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on March 06, 2019, 04:17:49 PM
*Originally Posted by blumtnman [+]
Mr Fish seems totally in love! Good on him. Every review I read or watch convinces me this is my new bike. Now if only KTMMitch/JMo can come up with a bash plate. And a few RR farkles!

You can guarantee it (sooner than most people will actually be getting their bikes I imagine)... John is working on it as we speak ;o)

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: pedruchini on March 06, 2019, 04:45:11 PM
*Originally Posted by cbf1000 [+]
However the new model has been fundamentally flawed for me by the introduction of the 19” front wheel resulting in a deal-breaking rise in seat height to 830mm.  I bought my CB500X because it is one of the few bikes with a low enough seat height at 810mm (and lowering using Lust Racing drop links) to make the bike comfortable for me.  With the lowering and weight of the touring luggage I could get both feet flat.  The rise in seat height effectively excludes me from buying this bike.  Honda have made a fundamental marketing mistake in trying to make the bike more “off road”  they have effectively alienated the less tall (short) rider.  It is a mistake because I believe there are many more short riders buying the bike than those actually riding it off road.  There is an easy solution to this problem.  BMW (F70GS) and Triumph (Tiger 800 XRx Low) both offer low seat factory options – why can’t Honda do this?

Hi CBF1000
I've just registered to this forum to tell you that in the 2019 model the seat is 830 cm but it's SLIMMER than last year's model. I'm 172.5 cm tall (5.66ft) and i can almost get both feet flat in both bikes (2018 and 2019). After I tested the cb500x 2019 for 45 minutes I realised it was the perfect bike for me I decided to buy one.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on March 06, 2019, 06:30:52 PM
I kind of agree with CBF1000 on the seat height, it's a major barrier to lots of bikes that don't actually need so much ground clearance or suspension movement. The manufacturers would be better off making bikes like the AT, Tenere, 850GS etc lower and then the (very few!) owners that take them off road could have them raised if they need to. The fact that all these bikes will have aftermarket lowering kits available proves that a lot of people think they are too high. On the other side of things you don't see many low bikes with kits to raise them being offered!

I also bemoan the fact that the manufacturers think that only the high powered and high seated leviathans should have decent components like suspension etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one that would be happy to pay a lot more for an X if it had the same quality suspension and equipment as an Africa Twin

I'm pretty sure the 2019 X will be my next bike with the extra height being the only downside I can see. The seat height itself isn't the problem, it's the height of the back of the bike. I've got a dodgy hip and I'm starting to find getting on tall bikes sets it off. Hence why my other options is the Triumph Street Scrambler which is nice and low.

But anyway whinge over, I'm looking forward to a test ride on the new bike and like most can't wait to see the Rally Raid options as they come available.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on March 06, 2019, 07:56:09 PM
*Originally Posted by cbf1000 [+]
I think Honda are to be congratulated on the 2019 facelift to the CB500X.  They have obviously done their market research and produced a set of well-focussed improvements.  However the new model has been fundamentally flawed for me by the introduction of the 19” front wheel resulting in a deal-breaking rise in seat height to 830mm.  I bought my CB500X because it is one of the few bikes with a low enough seat height at 810mm (and lowering using Lust Racing drop links) to make the bike comfortable for me.  With the lowering and weight of the touring luggage I could get both feet flat.  The rise in seat height effectively excludes me from buying this bike.  Honda have made a fundamental marketing mistake in trying to make the bike more “off road”  they have effectively alienated the less tall (short) rider.  It is a mistake because I believe there are many more short riders buying the bike than those actually riding it off road.  There is an easy solution to this problem.  BMW (F70GS) and Triumph (Tiger 800 XRx Low) both offer low seat factory options – why can’t Honda do this?

Sounds like the X isn't thew bike you want. If your a short rider who doesn't go offroad...buy the 500F....
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Smudger on March 06, 2019, 08:12:14 PM
I could whinge all day about bikes that dont fit me. Naked streetbikes seems to be getting physically smaller these days.
But its pointless to moan about them, there are so many bikes out now, in all shapes & sizes.
If a bike doesn't fit me, i just move on and look for something else.
Personally, i'm glad they made the new CB taller, it was one of the things i liked about it.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on March 06, 2019, 08:59:55 PM
To be fair on Honda, to get the 19" front wheel and only raise the bike 20mm is a good effort. The bike was obviously designed with a 17" wheel and as RR found out there was no way a 19" would fit on the standard bike without hitting the rad or down pipes. They would have had to redesign the whole geometry and frame to get the 19" and keep the same seat height.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on March 06, 2019, 09:21:41 PM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
To be fair on Honda, to get the 19" front wheel and only raise the bike 20mm is a good effort. The bike was obviously designed with a 17" wheel and as RR found out there was no way a 19" would fit on the standard bike without hitting the rad or down pipes. They would have had to redesign the whole geometry and frame to get the 19" and keep the same seat height.

Hi Japes - for info. the way Honda did it was to increase the fork [triple clamp] offset by 20mm and essentially lengthening the wheelbase, coupled with a stepped top triple clamp (like Rally-Raid use, but with slightly less of a step).

Primarily the increase in overall/seat height has been to give the bike a little more travel too (at the front shared pretty much equally between the larger front wheel and travel, while at the rear, it is almost all extra travel)... and in that regard, for shorter riders who want the new version (and not settle for a new-old-stock 17" front end model for example) you can expect a set of lowering links from Rally-Raid to be part of the new 2019-on range.

However, as others have said, the whole purpose of the revisions to the X model in the CB range is to make it more of an all-terrain Adventure bike, something genuinely capable and less likely to attract criticism of being a 'wannabe' than the previous version did... even though those of us who have ridden the stock/shorter travel 2013-18 model know how 'all terrain' capable it can be in the right hands of course ;o)

Jx

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on March 06, 2019, 09:23:40 PM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
I kind of agree with CBF1000 on the seat height, it's a major barrier to lots of bikes that don't actually need so much ground clearance or suspension movement. The manufacturers would be better off making bikes like the AT, Tenere, 850GS etc lower and then the (very few!) owners that take them off road could have them raised if they need to. The fact that all these bikes will have aftermarket lowering kits available proves that a lot of people think they are too high. On the other side of things you don't see many low bikes with kits to raise them being offered!


I also bemoan the fact that the manufacturers think that only the high powered and high seated leviathans should have decent components like suspension etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one that would be happy to pay a lot more for an X if it had the same quality suspension and equipment as an Africa Twin

I'm pretty sure the 2019 X will be my next bike with the extra height being the only downside I can see. The seat height itself isn't the problem, it's the height of the back of the bike. I've got a dodgy hip and I'm starting to find getting on tall bikes sets it off. Hence why my other options is the Triumph Street Scrambler which is nice and low.

But anyway whinge over, I'm looking forward to a test ride on the new bike and like most can't wait to see the Rally Raid options as they come available.

When I did my hip in, I'd put my transalp on the centre stand and stand on the pegs to get on....makes it easier if you've got luggage as well....maybe consider a centre stand as a first farkle?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on March 06, 2019, 11:05:59 PM
Jonathan, funny you should say that because it was my Transalp that contributed to my dodgy hip! I fell off it (on a wet grassy slope!) and it’s never been the same since.

Good point about mounting up on the stand, though it’s not ideal it might save it getting worse. Unfortunately I think I’ll be going for the RR guard which doesn’t allow a centre stand. I’m sure I’ll make do either way!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on March 07, 2019, 01:54:51 AM
*Originally Posted by JMo [+]
) you can expect a set of lowering links from Rally-Raid to be part of the new 2019-on range.
:046: :046: :046:

Jmo Rally Raid has earned itself a well deserved name in being the premier CB500X suspension and off road equipment supplier. I would suggest some small item like bash plate and compatible center stand, mirror extenders, lowering plates/links, light bar etc. that would take very little in R&D money and time and would appeal to many of us that do not off road. These cheaper items might prove to be quite profitable for Rally Raid as they would cross sell to off road and non off road riders. Point is that many of these items are available from various manufacturers already but it would make Rally Raid a more complete CB500X supplier (one stop shop)
Looking forward to anything You and Mitch put together and as always thank you for all that you have already done for us.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on March 07, 2019, 03:10:11 AM
*Originally Posted by cbf1000 [+]
I think Honda are to be congratulated on the 2019 facelift to the CB500X.  They have obviously done their market research and produced a set of well-focussed improvements.  However the new model has been fundamentally flawed for me by the introduction of the 19” front wheel resulting in a deal-breaking rise in seat height to 830mm.  I bought my CB500X because it is one of the few bikes with a low enough seat height at 810mm (and lowering using Lust Racing drop links) to make the bike comfortable for me.  With the lowering and weight of the touring luggage I could get both feet flat.  The rise in seat height effectively excludes me from buying this bike.  Honda have made a fundamental marketing mistake in trying to make the bike more “off road”  they have effectively alienated the less tall (short) rider.  It is a mistake because I believe there are many more short riders buying the bike than those actually riding it off road.  There is an easy solution to this problem.  BMW (F70GS) and Triumph (Tiger 800 XRx Low) both offer low seat factory options – why can’t Honda do this?

Only Honda can answer that but I will say Kawasaki does have factory low seat "ergo-fit" options from the entry Versys X 300 to their SuperSports

To those with lowered CB500X, did you lower the front end too? Keeping the factory rake/trail. Something to think about when installing lowering links.

cbf1000 I did find this that can be helpful courtesy of victord33 - https://www.cb500x.com/index.php?topic=2668.0
(https://www.cb500x.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2668.0;attach=5383;image)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Longshanks on March 07, 2019, 12:25:42 PM
I'm in a different situation.
Being six foot three and seventeen and a half stone I welcome the extra height but don't want the nineteen inch front rim. :187:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on March 07, 2019, 01:19:27 PM
*Originally Posted by Longshanks [+]
I'm in a different situation.
Being six foot three and seventeen and a half stone I welcome the extra height but don't want the nineteen inch front rim. :187:

You need the Seat Concepts tall seat and Motoworks peg lowering kit.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on March 07, 2019, 03:03:56 PM
I'm no shorty at 5 foot 10 but I liked the seat height of the previous models, it just felt right. 830mm seems pretty tall and I'm not a fan of the 19 inch rim either. I really don't know why they did that because it's still essentially a road bike and I suspect that's what most people will be using it on.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on March 07, 2019, 04:09:50 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
I'm no shorty at 5 foot 10 but I liked the seat height of the previous models, it just felt right. 830mm seems pretty tall and I'm not a fan of the 19 inch rim either. I really don't know why they did that because it's still essentially a road bike and I suspect that's what most people will be using it on.

I'm guessing it was to do with ground clearance. The X was a pseudo-adv version of the F aimed at new riders and commuters; a road bike to all intents and purposes, so 17" rims made sense. The latest incarnation is more niche, and more in keeping with other manufacturers targeting the same buyers....I still think they really should've upped the power...or done an A2 and a full blown
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on March 07, 2019, 04:15:32 PM
I'd have been all over a 650cc 70bhp version.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on March 07, 2019, 08:19:33 PM
What about upgrading your existing 471cc 17 inch wheeled baby to ~65 hp and 49Nm?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on March 07, 2019, 09:14:31 PM
*Originally Posted by Oyabun [+]
What about upgrading your existing 471cc 17 inch wheeled baby to ~65 hp and 49Nm?

Really? Wow. That must have taken some investment - my guess is that those results aren't from a simple re-mapping.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on March 07, 2019, 09:57:29 PM
Actually that bike will be closer to 70 than 65 when finished, and it is working in a racebike what will be used in a national championship - but this measurement is still on regular pump gas.
Indeed it was quite a journey - involving splitting the cases for installing wiseco high comp pistons and removing the harmonic balancer, large cams, fuel mapping, full exhaust system and modified intake. The final version will have a ported head and both cylinders will be individually tuned for race fuel also.

However 58-60hp can be achieved relatively easy with slapping on a modified head and cams, an exhaust and minimal diy intake modifications - without exotic pistons or splitting the cases. It keep stock reliability and most of the bikes economy. Cost-wise it would be definitely less than selling out and buying a new larger capacity bike.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: oculux on March 08, 2019, 06:12:10 AM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
I kind of agree with CBF1000 on the seat height, it's a major barrier to lots of bikes that don't actually need so much ground clearance or suspension movement. The manufacturers would be better off making bikes like the AT, Tenere, 850GS etc lower and then the (very few!) owners that take them off road could have them raised if they need to. The fact that all these bikes will have aftermarket lowering kits available proves that a lot of people think they are too high. On the other side of things you don't see many low bikes with kits to raise them being offered!

I also bemoan the fact that the manufacturers think that only the high powered and high seated leviathans should have decent components like suspension etc. I'm sure I'm not the only one that would be happy to pay a lot more for an X if it had the same quality suspension and equipment as an Africa Twin

I'm pretty sure the 2019 X will be my next bike with the extra height being the only downside I can see. The seat height itself isn't the problem, it's the height of the back of the bike. I've got a dodgy hip and I'm starting to find getting on tall bikes sets it off. Hence why my other options is the Triumph Street Scrambler which is nice and low.

But anyway whinge over, I'm looking forward to a test ride on the new bike and like most can't wait to see the Rally Raid options as they come available.

In your position I'd probably feel the same because I think the CB500X has such a Goldilocks formula it's going to be enough for probably 80% of all use cases (the other 20% is the churn that happens in the motorcycle market where it takes time for the right bikes to find the right owner).

It didn't take me very long to eliminate much of the doubt about whether it is right for me bt I'll have to see how I get on with it when it arrives.

Personally I will not try to "improve" the bike with aftermarket bits and bobs because... well everyone is different and I'm one of those who likes keeping things stock. Plenty will eff it to death with aftermarket stuff like Rally Rade which I knew nothing about until this forum. Perhaps they are site sponsors, and I am not rubbishing any of these products btw - I have no knowledge or experience of them so my comments should be taken as neutral.

I just wouldn't do it. I'd look for another bike that suited me a bit better and wait for the right one to come along. But that's just me.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on March 08, 2019, 06:31:57 AM
*Originally Posted by oculux [+]
I just wouldn't do it. I'd look for another bike that suited me a bit better and wait for the right one to come along. But that's just me.

I completely understand and respect this, although I would make one point: there really doesn't seem to be anything comparable to the kind of machine that a Rally Raid X offers, so I don't think that there is the option of waiting around for the right alternative. Because of this, for many the Rally Raid mods offer the best solution.

For those who want a lighter off-road capable adventure bike, there really doesn't seem to be an 'off the rack' option. You'd have to look to the Triumph Tiger 800 (heavy) or perhaps the Royal Enfield Himalayan (smaller and... I'd not trust one).

Then there are others who just love projects - Oyabun and Gregjet come to mind. I can't wait to hear about what they've achieved when their projects are done! :)

I should say that I rode an X for three years, predominantly on the road and it was largely unmodified (except for basic things like centre stand, radiator guard, heated grips, sliders and luggage rack). For me, it was absolutely fantastic, although I do understand how some have been disappointed by the suspension in particular. I understand that the suspension on the new 2019 model is much improved. I plan to buy another.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on March 08, 2019, 10:03:00 AM
*Originally Posted by oculux [+]
I just wouldn't do it. I'd look for another bike that suited me a bit better and wait for the right one to come along. But that's just me.

You are not alone, my bike is totally standard except for a radiator guard!!  :034:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 08, 2019, 02:03:52 PM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
You are not alone, my bike is totally standard except for a radiator guard!!  :034:

To each his own. Riding a stone stock X back to back with my RRL1 bike, there is a very clear difference in ride quality. For me, it's worth the investment.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on March 08, 2019, 06:39:36 PM
UKU has it just about spot on. There isn't much choice if you want a bike that weighs less than 200kgs, reasonable seat height, has a 19" front wheel and possibility of spoked wheels, decent luggage options and some off road capability but still good for cruising at 70-80 mph. Add in the excellent fuel economy and reasonable price and the CB500X is about as good as it gets.

The other option I have is the 2019 Triumph Street Scrambler but it's 50% more money, is probably less capable off road and has no weather protection. Plus I've got a garage full of classic Triumphs so a faux classic seems a bit pointless!! As has been pointed out no bike is perfect so it's all about finding the one with the least compromises, it will probably be that the 2019 X has the least compromises for me.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: jojojones on March 08, 2019, 07:40:27 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
You need the Seat Concepts tall seat and Motoworks peg lowering kit.

the motowerks kit has broken and failed and now has a weight disclaimer...I would never trust it.  Hopefully RR or another vendor will finally resolve this properly.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Longshanks on March 08, 2019, 08:45:48 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
You need the Seat Concepts tall seat and Motoworks peg lowering kit.
Thanks
I'll have a look at the Seat Concepts tall seat and see if it's available in GB.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on March 09, 2019, 02:43:34 AM
Another 2019 CB500X pushing its limits...

New dual outlet exhaust sound has its critics but I say it sounds like a Honda S2000 when the Vtec hits

neevesybikes X-rated CB500X on board

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on March 09, 2019, 09:36:29 AM
Which side of the road are they meant to be riding on?!?  :191:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on March 09, 2019, 10:43:35 AM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
Which side of the road are they meant to be riding on?!?  :191:

The video was done during the press launch in Tenerife, so they theoretically should ride on the right side of the road. The signs are also on the right side. Seeing the video I'm not sure if Honda wasn't organised to get that stretch of road closed for private use during the test period.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on March 09, 2019, 07:33:25 PM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
Which side of the road are they meant to be riding on?!?  :191:

This was done with Honda own motorcycles at Honda's Tenerife press launch. neevesybikes youtube posted another video with the 2019 CB500R with a "Honda Safety Vest" leading the front.
Don't know the details if Honda pays to shut the roads and those handful vehicles belong to moto mags as "camera cars/support". It it weren't I would guess the local police would have shut the event after complaints.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: jojojones on March 10, 2019, 04:23:34 PM
any reports on headlights anywhere?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Kindai on March 11, 2019, 06:49:31 AM
*Originally Posted by Kindai [+]
The decal is in top and can be removed. It's not my fav either, and looking to replace with something from Rally Raid or another company hopefully.

OK so upon closer inspection, the decal on the plastic faring is on top, but the decal on the fuel tank is under the top coat. Hopefully graphics can be applied over this part? Rally Raid, any plans?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: UKJeeper on March 11, 2019, 11:47:22 AM
Short video (by Rally Raid) showing the differences in the 2019 model:

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 11, 2019, 12:08:36 PM
*Originally Posted by UKJeeper [+]
Short video (by Rally Raid) showing the differences in the 2019 model:


Nice share. Well cut video too. Nice work RRP!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on March 11, 2019, 02:25:59 PM
Great comparison RR - every improvement is spot on, and the new looks are right up there too!!  :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lancs-lad on March 11, 2019, 04:07:50 PM
I'm trying my best to ignore the 2019 model as I said the 2016 I bought would be my last bike.......BUT.....I'm getting more interested the more I see n read about the new model, I might have a ride to the dealer just to see what a swap would cost me??
Fatal I know :001:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on March 11, 2019, 06:46:29 PM
*Originally Posted by Lancs-lad [+]
I'm trying my best to ignore the 2019 model as I said the 2016 I bought would be my last bike.......BUT.....I'm getting more interested the more I see n read about the new model, I might have a ride to the dealer just to see what a swap would cost me??
Fatal I know :001:

 My 2017 bike is everything I need, and I don't need any of the upgrades to enjoy the 500X more.  I'm staying away from the dealers...……… because that 2019 bike looks absolutely fantastic!!!!!   :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on March 11, 2019, 07:08:53 PM
So the new swinging arm is alloy, not seen that in any of the other info. Another nice upgrade.

It seems like Honda have lightened a few bits (swinging arm, battery, lights etc) to keep the weight the same while adding the (probably) heavier front end.

I'm genuinely impressed by the amount of positive changes they've made without adding much to the OTR price. When I bought my first X it was a brand new model and that cost me £4850. I guess with 6 years of inflation and a lot of useful improvements £6k is still a good price.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on March 11, 2019, 07:35:43 PM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
So the new swinging arm is alloy, not seen that in any of the other info. Another nice upgrade.

It seems like Honda have lightened a few bits (swinging arm, battery, lights etc) to keep the weight the same while adding the (probably) heavier front end.

I'm genuinely impressed by the amount of positive changes they've made without adding much to the OTR price. When I bought my first X it was a brand new model and that cost me £4850. I guess with 6 years of inflation and a lot of useful improvements £6k is still a good price.

Hi Japes - I know it's confusing - but the swingarm is still made from steel, not aluminium - Marv just asked that on another thread...

https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,8221.0.html

Steel is technically an 'alloy' of course, but it is not an aluminium swing-arm on the 2019 bikes.

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on March 11, 2019, 08:59:35 PM
Ah, ok, cheers Jenny. I thought a lot more would have been made of it if they had fitted an ally one. Of course it would never be a pure aluminium one!

So how did that confusion come about - I must watch the vid again. I know they have changed the axle adjustment to a more modern design.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 11, 2019, 09:01:05 PM
*Originally Posted by Lancs-lad [+]
I'm trying my best to ignore the 2019 model as I said the 2016 I bought would be my last bike.......BUT.....I'm getting more interested the more I see n read about the new model, I might have a ride to the dealer just to see what a swap would cost me??
Fatal I know :001:

I'm thankful I'm living abroad and just got money into this bike. The new one looks awesome.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Smudger on March 11, 2019, 10:10:01 PM
The high winds we've been having let up a bit today, so was finally able to enjoy riding this new 19 today after picking it up last saturday.
I love how light it feels and how easy it is to chuck it around, especially after owning many of the leviathan big cc adventure bikes . Obviously breaking it in so being easy on it, but i can tell its going to have enough pep for me. It looks good, it sounds great, and after putting a few miles on it i even got used to the pegs being a bit too far back, which i originally had reservations about. After a 100 miles today, i realised i could easily do a decent amount of touring mileage on this. It could be the most consummate all rounder i've ever owned.
Absolutely no regrets buying it.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: blumtnman on March 12, 2019, 12:53:51 AM
I'm getting very unimpressed with all the reports of how good the '19 is, its still not available in Aus. Talk about jealous of anyone who's got one......
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: wphillips007 on March 12, 2019, 01:31:59 AM
Nor are they available in the US - talked to my local Honda dealer in Orlando and they said in April......  I’ve heard that patience is a great virtue!!!!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 12, 2019, 02:08:38 AM
*Originally Posted by wphillips007 [+]
Nor are they available in the US - talked to my local Honda dealer in Orlando and they said in April......  I’ve heard that patience is a great virtue!!!!

Well worth it. I’m enjoying the X more and more as put miles on it.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ksmoker2 on March 14, 2019, 12:38:49 AM
US prices: $6699 for non ABS and $6999 for ABS.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 14, 2019, 01:32:18 AM
*Originally Posted by ksmoker2 [+]
US prices: $6699 for non ABS and $6999 for ABS.
Where did you get those prices because there is nothing  on Honda's site yet and if your dealer told you he's just guessing
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ksmoker2 on March 14, 2019, 01:48:05 AM
Sales manager at my local Honda dealership. Wouldn't think it's a guess, he could have guessed last year when I first contacted him about getting a 2019. He contacted me today.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 14, 2019, 01:53:17 AM
*Originally Posted by ksmoker2 [+]
Sales manager at my local Honda dealership. Wouldn't think it's a guess, he could have guessed last year when I first contacted him about getting a 2019. He contacted me today.
Again nothing on Honda's site lets hope that's right because that would be a good price
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ksmoker2 on March 14, 2019, 02:04:46 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Again nothing on Honda's site lets hope that's right because that would be a good price

Yes I hope so, I will put a deposit to have one ordered for me. Now just have to decode ABS or non ABS. Likely get the ABS for added safety on those rainy days and just get the Rally Raid switch to turn it off when off road.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on March 14, 2019, 08:47:50 AM
I'd definitely go for an ABS bike. It is really good as it is, and wort case you can disable with a simple switch.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ksmoker2 on March 15, 2019, 01:13:37 PM
US prices are now on the Honda website
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 15, 2019, 02:15:14 PM
*Originally Posted by ksmoker2 [+]
US prices are now on the Honda website
You beat me to it--the price is better than I though it would be-- now lets see how long it takes for the dealers to get it in
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ksmoker2 on March 15, 2019, 02:28:26 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
You beat me to it--the price is better than I though it would be-- now lets see how long it takes for the dealers to get it in

Yes I agree. I put a $500 deposit on an ABS model to have ordered for me. My guy said he'll let me know when he has an idea on delivery. Should be open for ordering next week.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Aikenrunner on March 15, 2019, 11:54:35 PM
I checked the Honda site early this morning and the prices were not up but they are now! I will be putting down a deposit tomorrow on a 19 ABS!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: PiotrL on March 16, 2019, 12:16:17 AM
*Originally Posted by Smudger [+]
The high winds we've been having let up a bit today, so was finally able to enjoy riding this new 19 today after picking it up last saturday.
I love how light it feels and how easy it is to chuck it around, especially after owning many of the leviathan big cc adventure bikes . Obviously breaking it in so being easy on it, but i can tell its going to have enough pep for me. It looks good, it sounds great, and after putting a few miles on it i even got used to the pegs being a bit too far back, which i originally had reservations about. After a 100 miles today, i realised i could easily do a decent amount of touring mileage on this. It could be the most consummate all rounder i've ever owned.
Absolutely no regrets buying it.
Thanks for the update. I'm really interested in your opinions on this bike. Strongly considering to part with Transalp 700 for 2019 cb500x. l'm also 6ft2, with 34" inseam and little worried about the comfort on long rides. Any updates on how things are going with you and your new bike will be appreciated.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 18, 2019, 03:22:21 AM
Guess it goes without saying-but the first one to see it in a US dealer-- to shout out--I'm going to my dealer Tuesday to see if he ordered one being he still has a 2017 on the floor that I would buy if I could get it for $1500 less out the door now that we know the price of it--we will see
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on March 18, 2019, 05:00:18 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Guess it goes without saying-but the first one to see it in a US dealer-- to shout out--I'm going to my dealer Tuesday to see if he ordered one being he still has a 2017 on the floor that I would buy if I could get it for $1500 less out the door now that we know the price of it--we will see

Good luck negotiating Motorboy - fwiw. I paid $5500 out the door (in California) for my 2014 model bike in September 2015... it had been on the shop floor at least a year by then (based on the build date), and there was only the 2016 revisions due - which as I recall had not actually been announced yet [in Sept 2015] and the dealer was still keen to trade....

If your dealer still has a 2017 bike on the shop floor with a new model featuring substantial changes imminent, I'm sure you out to be able to strike a similar deal there - the bike has to be costing him money now.

Jenny x
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 18, 2019, 02:01:46 PM
*Originally Posted by JMo [+]
Good luck negotiating Motorboy - fwiw. I paid $5500 out the door (in California) for my 2014 model bike in September 2015... it had been on the shop floor at least a year by then (based on the build date), and there was only the 2016 revisions due - which as I recall had not actually been announced yet [in Sept 2015] and the dealer was still keen to trade...
If your dealer still has a 2017 bike on the shop floor with a new model featuring substantial changes imminent, I'm sure you out to be able to strike a similar deal there - the bike has to be costing him money now.

Jenny x
If I remember right I paid $6,300 out the door for my new 2014 500X in 2014 so this left over would be $6,200 out the door-- I know the 2019 has improvements but fear of the unknown has me thinking hard new is not always better like shaved seat - higher seat-19'' front wheel and so onl- at lease I know the old bikes pro's and con's- but any less than saving $1,500 I'll go to the 2019
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Smudger on March 18, 2019, 02:26:57 PM
*Originally Posted by PiotrL [+]
Thanks for the update. I'm really interested in your opinions on this bike. Strongly considering to part with Transalp 700 for 2019 cb500x. l'm also 6ft2, with 34" inseam and little worried about the comfort on long rides. Any updates on how things are going with you and your new bike will be appreciated.

I've not rode it much the last week, due to the high winds we've been having here. But its calming down now, so should be getting more miles on.
Went out and did 100 miles about a week ago and there's nothing that stands out that i dont like about this bike. I'm 6'1" with 34 inseam, could do with a bit more seat to peg distance on this bike, but i've sorta got used to it. Screen works great with no buffeting for my height.
I've put Givi monorack arms on for a tailpack or topbox, the 1121FZ ones for the older models fit this new model.
Not rode the Transalp 700, but i did have a 600 Transalp once, although it was 20 years ago, so cant really compare them.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Paulawilks on March 18, 2019, 11:55:17 PM
Did they fix that annoying overly big horn button that was on the 2018 model?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on March 19, 2019, 12:59:45 AM
*Originally Posted by Paulawilks [+]
Did they fix that annoying overly big horn button that was on the 2018 model?

Nope, but you get that on all of the Hondas.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 19, 2019, 02:33:31 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Guess it goes without saying-but the first one to see it in a US dealer-- to shout out--I'm going to my dealer Tuesday to see if he ordered one being he still has a 2017 on the floor that I would buy if I could get it for $1500 less out the door now that we know the price of it--we will see
After reading all the posts by thirtyone about the trouble he's having finding a sweet spot with a windshield-- I had a flashback with my 2014- same thing never did find a shield that worked- so with that said I'm going to wait for the 2019 to come in- seems the reviews so far claims the new shield works much better-saving a few bucks on a left over and going through that again is not worth it
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 19, 2019, 11:07:50 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
After reading all the posts by thirtyone about the trouble he's having finding a sweet spot with a windshield-- I had a flashback with my 2014- same thing never did find a shield that worked- so with that said I'm going to wait for the 2019 to come in- seems the reviews so far claims the new shield works much better-saving a few bucks on a left over and going through that again is not worth it

Oh come on, it's fun spending hundreds of hours and dollars trying to fix a simple problem.  :030:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 20, 2019, 01:53:31 AM
Here's the latest on the 2019 X -today my Powerhouse 5 dealer stated this week is order week for the first shipment of the 2019 X and they should be in southern dealers no later than 5/31/19-he thinks he will have his mid May-not sure about the rest of the country
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 20, 2019, 02:00:29 AM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Oh come on, it's fun spending hundreds of hours and dollars trying to fix a simple problem.  :030:
All fun and games but what about the mental part-have you started talking to your self saying things like this can be fixed-and the other side of you brain saying NO it can't give up-it ate me up so much after a few beers I took out the grinder saying to the bike take this and removed the windshield brackets-problem solved--
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ksmoker2 on March 20, 2019, 02:39:54 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Here's the latest on the 2019 X -today my Powerhouse 5 dealer stated this week is order week for the first shipment of the 2019 X and they should be in southern dealers no later than 5/31/19-he thinks he will have his mid May-not sure about the rest of the country

I sure was hoping for the beginning of May! I'm not to far from you down in da swamp so that'll likely be the time frame for mine also. I leave May 8th for a week and a half of riding in New Mexico/Arizona. Was hoping to take the X. I'll have to ride the WR which ant bad just not quite as comfy on long days.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 20, 2019, 03:00:44 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
All fun and games but what about the mental part-have you started talking to your self saying things like this can be fixed-and the other side of you brain saying NO it can't give up-it ate me up so much after a few beers I took out the grinder saying to the bike take this and removed the windshield brackets-problem solved--

Oh we're on chapter 12 of the epic length soliloquy.  :008: I pulled into a gas station off the highway 6 times one night to make adjustments to my Madstad screen. I'm sure the guys that work there think I'm bat sh#t crazy.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 20, 2019, 03:02:19 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
All fun and games but what about the mental part-have you started talking to your self saying things like this can be fixed-and the other side of you brain saying NO it can't give up-it ate me up so much after a few beers I took out the grinder saying to the bike take this and removed the windshield brackets-problem solved--
Let me say one last  thing it's the Madstad system or nothing if you can't make that work your doomed
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 20, 2019, 03:54:17 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Let me say one last  thing it's the Madstad system or nothing if you can't make that work your doomed

Madstad worked great on my VStrom. That's why I dropped the coin for it right away. I was really disappointed my results on the 500X. Anway, we're plenty  :450: at this point. Viva la 2019! I can't wait to go check it out in the showrooms when I'm back in the USA this summer.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on March 21, 2019, 04:54:11 AM
2019 Forks and Shock

At 3:07 they welded a part on the forks internals. Any Thai speakers here that can translate??

Looks like the shock is right-side up now and has a zinc-plated metal boot/protector. Can 2019 owner confirm this??


Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on March 21, 2019, 06:07:30 AM
Replied on Advrider.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on March 21, 2019, 08:42:55 PM
I've just been told that the bike won't be in the floor here until June! Maybe my dealer lost out on bikes from the first shipment... dunno,  but I'm very frustrated.

Also, in Australia we get the choice of mayt black or gloss black. Really? Sigh.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 21, 2019, 09:29:31 PM
*Originally Posted by uku383 [+]
I've just been told that the bike won't be in the floor here until June! Maybe my dealer lost out on bikes from the first shipment... dunno,  but I'm very frustrated.

Also, in Australia we get the choice of mayt black or gloss black. Really? Sigh.

Why, what color were you hoping for?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on March 21, 2019, 09:39:24 PM
Might be just a freedom of choice question. ;-)
As Henry Ford said "“A customer can have a car painted any color he wants as long as it’s black”
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on March 21, 2019, 11:35:17 PM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Why, what color were you hoping for?

A Honda should be red.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 21, 2019, 11:44:57 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
A Honda should be red.

 :008:

I don't mind black, but I am definitely a fan of red Hondas....or this heritage combo. Drool.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.imgur.com/H65PMPm.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on March 21, 2019, 11:58:37 PM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
:008:

I don't mind black, but I am definitely a fan of red Hondas....or this heritage combo. Drool.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.imgur.com/H65PMPm.jpg)

Oh yeah I like that colour..or maybe a Rothman's livery......

But I ordered mine in Red. I love the shoutout Hailwood paint job on the 2019
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on March 22, 2019, 02:51:27 AM
Some good videos here :

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuGNq06vRIVLdiEjDNVKKuw/videos


Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: dereck74 on March 22, 2019, 07:19:32 AM
One question for owners of M.Y. 2019: does the center stand touch the ground when leaning the bike during sporty riding or two-up riding (possibly fully loaded)?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Sulina_77 on March 22, 2019, 08:58:42 AM
Since I am lowering the bike by 3cm, I think I will opt for a hydrolic jack rather than a centre stand to avoid this issue. A hydrolic jack will come cheaper and can be used on other bikes too, whilst the centre stand will have to be cut and welded to meet the new height. I think I am one of the first customers of Lust Racing links for 2019, these links help me with my 29inch inseam.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Mobydick on March 22, 2019, 10:33:11 PM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
UKU has it just about spot on. There isn't much choice if you want a bike that weighs less than 200kgs, reasonable seat height, has a 19" front wheel and possibility of spoked wheels, decent luggage options and some off road capability but still good for cruising at 70-80 mph. Add in the excellent fuel economy and reasonable price and the CB500X is about as good as it gets.

The other option I have is the 2019 Triumph Street Scrambler but it's 50% more money, is probably less capable off road and has no weather protection. Plus I've got a garage full of classic Triumphs so a faux classic seems a bit pointless!! As has been pointed out no bike is perfect so it's all about finding the one with the least compromises, it will probably be that the 2019 X has the least compromises for me.

I am following this question with interest as I am 6'2" & 34 inseam and don't feel very comfortable on my 18MY, specially the distance from pegs to handle bar. Even with 35mm raiser and pivoting pegs. The pegs are too much backwards.

It is too soon for a change, because my bike has just 13 months and 3000km, so a huge loss in a trade in. Eventhough I visited my dealer and tried (just sitting on) the 19MY and basically is the same (ergonomically). Unwisely I tried also the standard AfricaTwin. It is a perfect fit.  May be next year....It makes more sense than a change for a MY19.

In this quest for the right bike I am each day more interested in the Yamaha Tenere T7. It promises weight bellow 200kg, 88 seat height ( :019:), a proper suspension, a bulletproof motor, spoked wheels.... And a price below 10.000€, that's close to a fully rallyraided cb500x.

Does someone more experienced has opinion on the T7? Is it a contender for this segment, or is it aimed totaly different?


Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on March 23, 2019, 03:41:25 AM
*Originally Posted by Mobydick [+]
I am following this question with interest as I am 6'2" & 34 inseam and don't feel very comfortable on my 18MY, specially the distance from pegs to handle bar. Even with 35mm raiser and pivoting pegs. The pegs are too much backwards.

It is too soon for a change, because my bike has just 13 months and 3000km, so a huge loss in a trade in. Eventhough I visited my dealer and tried (just sitting on) the 19MY and basically is the same (ergonomically). Unwisely I tried also the standard AfricaTwin. It is a perfect fit.  May be next year....It makes more sense than a change for a MY19.

In this quest for the right bike I am each day more interested in the Yamaha Tenere T7. It promises weight bellow 200kg, 88 seat height ( :019:), a proper suspension, a bulletproof motor, spoked wheels.... And a price below 10.000€, that's close to a fully rallyraided cb500x.

Does someone more experienced has opinion on the T7? Is it a contender for this segment, or is it aimed totaly different?

No, the Tenere 700 is a different motorcycle. Its competition to the KTM 790 Adventure. These two stand alone as around 200kg weight with proper OEM offroad equipment from mainstream manufacturers.

The ones that I see compete with the 2019 CB500x are the Kawaski Versys X 300 and Suzuki V-Storm 650.
All three are road base motorcycles with similar wheel travel and 19/17 wheels.  BUT, they all have different engine power, weights, size and prices (The 2019 CB500X landing in the middle of it all).

Check out Knight Designs lower/wider CB500X foot pegs. It advertised to lower the footpegs by 32mm. RR have mentioned they are developing lowering footpegs. May work for you or at least buy you time while you decide on what bike you should get.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lancs-lad on March 23, 2019, 10:17:24 AM
I drove past North West Honda in Blackpool yesterday but decided not to call in then I wasn't tempted by the 19 model as I don't really  ride the one I've got enough!!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on March 23, 2019, 01:07:29 PM
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
No, the Tenere 700 is a different motorcycle. Its competition to the KTM 790 Adventure. These two stand alone as around 200kg weight with proper OEM offroad equipment from mainstream manufacturers.

The ones that I see compete with the 2019 CB500x are the Kawaski Versys X 300 and Suzuki V-Storm 650.
All three are road base motorcycles with similar wheel travel and 19/17 wheels.  BUT, they all have different engine power, weights, size and prices (The 2019 CB500X landing in the middle of it all).

Kickerto, I'm not sure I agree with this, but only because I read the question as comparing the Tenere 700 to a Rally Raid version of the 500X. By that comparison, the two could be seen as competitors as legitimate off-road capable adventure bikes. The key differences on that basis is a more powerful engine for the Tenere versus longer range for the 500X.

What seems to be of most interest to Mobydick is the seat height. The Tenere's is 88cm, and the 2019 500X is 83cm (but might be more with the Rally Raid kit, once released). For comparison, the previous 500X model was 81cm.

The Tenere has a bigger engine and a 16 litre fuel tank, whereas the 500X carries 17.5 litres of fuel. Given the famously frugal 500X engine, it would be reasonable to assume a noticeable difference in range.

I don't think that all the specs have been released for the 700, but we do know that the engine is taken from the MT-07, so we can guess about 56Kw (75 hp) versus the 34Kw (47 hp) for the 500X. Tenere has 68Nm of torque, and the 500x 43Nm. The front and rear wheels are 21" and 19" respectively, opposed to the 500X with a 19" and 17" wheel set.

Oh yes, and the Tenere looks totally badass.

Hope that's of some help.  :002:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on March 23, 2019, 01:12:54 PM
Tenere 700 looks great, are they feasible as all weather road/commuter bikes?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 23, 2019, 03:24:19 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Tenere 700 looks great, are they feasible as all weather road/commuter bikes?

Both the T700 and the 790, to me, appear to be more dirt than road biased overall. The 21/18 wheel package, narrow one piece seat and minimal front plastic section, amongst other things, seem to push those bikes in that direction.

I recently watched a video from a journo that attended the Morocco launch event of the KTM and his evaluation made the most sense. The KTM is a "Ready to Race" machine, as per their motto, and a bike like that begs to be thrashed. It's rally inspired. For a road tourer, he said the BMW 850 is a much more logical bike, for ergos, comfort and relaxed nature.

My guess is that the T7 will be in the same category as the 790.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Mobydick on March 23, 2019, 10:27:58 PM
Well, my first love was the L3 rally raid cb500x, and the culprits are Jenny and Juan and their magnificent videos. That's why I chose the 500x over the NC750x. I would like to go light off road (just light) so my bias towards rallyraid, beside the mean looks.
I am sure that the problem is my size, not the CB500x. The L2 RR CB500x is tempting, its seat height should be fine, but its ergonomics are the same as original. Finally, the conversion cost (+bike) is basically the same as expected for the T7, with the additional advantage of a stronger motor (for T7).
I sat on BMW f750gs and didn't like it. It feels much longer, even comoared with Africa Twin, and of course, too much expensive.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: PiotrL on March 24, 2019, 12:22:32 PM
*Originally Posted by Mobydick
I am following this question with interest as I am 6'2" & 34 inseam and don't feel very comfortable on my 18MY, specially the distance from pegs to handle bar. Even with 35mm raiser and pivoting pegs. The pegs are too much backwards.

It is too soon for a change, because my bike has just 13 months and 3000km, so a huge loss in a trade in. Eventhough I visited my dealer and tried (just sitting on) the 19MY and basically is the same (ergonomically). Unwisely I tried also the standard AfricaTwin. It is a perfect fit.  May be next year....It makes more sense than a change for a MY19.

In this quest for the right bike I am each day more interested in the Yamaha Tenere T7. It promises weight bellow 200kg, 88 seat height ( :019:), a proper suspension, a bulletproof motor, spoked wheels.... And a price below 10.000€, that's close to a fully rallyraided cb500x.

Does someone more experienced has opinion on the T7? Is it a contender for this segment, or is it aimed totaly different?

Same geometry, same worries :). Long ride comfort is very high on my priority list. I had a chance to sit on few bikes during the Dublin motorcycle show earlier this month. CB500x still worries me in terms of long ride comfort due to pegs being pushed too much backwards. Same as you. NC750x felt a bit better, albeit not by huge margin. Tiger 800 was great, the best was VStrom 1000, but this is in the Africa Twin territory already... Surprisingly VStrom 650 did not feel too much different with this regard than CB500x. It was my first choice before I sat on it but after I sat on it, it is not any more. And dare I say Benelli TRK 502x (however not on the show but in the dealership in Cork) was as perfect to my legs as the VStrom 1000 was, hence still a food for a though...
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Mobydick on March 24, 2019, 02:10:45 PM
Definitly there is no single bike that answers to our check list.
We should have ant least two bikes on the fleet. :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 24, 2019, 02:48:33 PM
*Originally Posted by PiotrL [+]
Same geometry, same worries :). Long ride comfort is very high on my priority list. I had a chance to sit on few bikes during the Dublin motorcycle show earlier this month. CB500x still worries me in terms of long ride comfort due to pegs being pushed too much backwards. Same as you. NC750x felt a bit better, albeit not by huge margin. Tiger 800 was great, the best was VStrom 1000, but this is in the Africa Twin territory already... Surprisingly VStrom 650 did not feel too much different with this regard than CB500x. It was my first choice before I sat on it but after I sat on it, it is not any more. And dare I say Benelli TRK 502x (however not on the show but in the dealership in Cork) was as perfect to my legs as the VStrom 1000 was, hence still a food for a though...

I bought a new 2018 Benelli TNT300 Tornado in 2017. I would wholeheartedly recommend staying away from the brand. The construction, fit and finish and reliability was very poor.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on March 24, 2019, 04:05:42 PM
*Originally Posted by PiotrL [+]
Same geometry, same worries :). Long ride comfort is very high on my priority list. I had a chance to sit on few bikes during the Dublin motorcycle show earlier this month. CB500x still worries me in terms of long ride comfort due to pegs being pushed too much backwards. Same as you. NC750x felt a bit better, albeit not by huge margin. Tiger 800 was great, the best was VStrom 1000, but this is in the Africa Twin territory already... Surprisingly VStrom 650 did not feel too much different with this regard than CB500x. It was my first choice before I sat on it but after I sat on it, it is not any more. And dare I say Benelli TRK 502x (however not on the show but in the dealership in Cork) was as perfect to my legs as the VStrom 1000 was, hence still a food for a though...

for long touring distances I'd go for the Tiger, assuming you like to do big miles with some highway thrown in....for relatively short daily touring hops (<200K) the X will be perfect. no reason why you can't do more than this, but it will be less work on the Tiger
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on March 24, 2019, 05:50:22 PM
*Originally Posted by PiotrL [+]
Same geometry, same worries :). Long ride comfort is very high on my priority list. I had a chance to sit on few bikes during the Dublin motorcycle show earlier this month. CB500x still worries me in terms of long ride comfort due to pegs being pushed too much backwards. Same as you. NC750x felt a bit better, albeit not by huge margin. Tiger 800 was great, the best was VStrom 1000, but this is in the Africa Twin territory already... Surprisingly VStrom 650 did not feel too much different with this regard than CB500x. It was my first choice before I sat on it but after I sat on it, it is not any more. And dare I say Benelli TRK 502x (however not on the show but in the dealership in Cork) was as perfect to my legs as the VStrom 1000 was, hence still a food for a though...

I never want to talk anyone out of a 500x, but if you need a bit more room, have you tried a Kawasaki Versys 650?  I rented one in NZ a year or two back and loved it - felt like a big X to me, and was comfy on longer rides!! 

I was close to buying one to be honest...... :086:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 25, 2019, 02:13:50 PM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
I never want to talk anyone out of a 500x, but if you need a bit more room, have you tried a Kawasaki Versys 650?  I rented one in NZ a year or two back and loved it - felt like a big X to me, and was comfy on longer rides!! 

I was close to buying one to be honest...... :086:
This just goes to show you different people different bikes and how hard it is to recommend a bike to a person- point is had a 500X for two years went to a 650 Versys for two years now going back to a 500X my opinion is the 500X all around is a better more comfortable bike
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 25, 2019, 04:27:41 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
This just goes to show you different people different bikes and how hard it is to recommend a bike to a person- point is had a 500X for two years went to a 650 Versys for two years now going back to a 500X my opinion is the 500X all around is a better more comfortable bike

That's why so many have more than one pony in the stable. If I could afford it I'd have 3 or 4.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on March 25, 2019, 08:31:31 PM
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 26, 2019, 03:34:56 AM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
That's why so many have more than one pony in the stable. If I could afford it I'd have 3 or 4.
I always keep two-right now I'm without a full size bike having sold my Versys and I'm riding my 2018 Honda CB300F and having a ball reving the snot out of it-you know if this 300 was just a little bigger say a 35hp 350cc it would be all the bike I would need
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: woody on March 26, 2019, 07:35:48 AM
@ applecorp nice video where is that? Bike looks awesome. Almost wished I'd waited the 6 or so months I've had mine now  :306:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on March 26, 2019, 08:21:30 AM
@woody
Video is from Norway, made by a felow forum member (Dirtytroll) on Advrider.
Check his Youtubr channel, he has quite a few videos uploaded.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 26, 2019, 03:42:20 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
I always keep two-right now I'm without a full size bike having sold my Versys and I'm riding my 2018 Honda CB300F and having a ball reving the snot out of it-you know if this 300 was just a little bigger say a 35hp 350cc it would be all the bike I would need

Just 350cc, just 450cc, just... :008:

I have plenty of days when I miss my little air cooled 250cc Honda Tornado. 23hp, 6 speed and fired up every time. I loved that machine, from what I remember.

But, getting onto the 650 VStrom after having ridden my 300cc Benelli for a year, having big torque and thrust was oh so nice. I certainly miss that too.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on March 27, 2019, 12:26:20 AM
 :157: :157: :157: :157:
 :157: :157: :157: :157:

people are riding motorcycles here. And I'm waiting for news.

Anyone see a 2019 in North America in the flesh yet?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on March 27, 2019, 02:28:51 AM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
:157: :157: :157: :157:
 :157: :157: :157: :157:

people are riding motorcycles here. And I'm waiting for news.

Anyone see a 2019 in North America in the flesh yet?

Nooo... but in news from Australia, my dealer has told me that a 30-bike shipment is imminent. He is pretty confident that he can nab one for me between 1 and 4 April. Apparently there is heaps of demand, so if you do want one in America (and are prepared to buy without a test ride, as I am) you might want to make a downpayment with your dealer, and ask them to use that to press Honda for one of what will be a limited number of bikes.

BTW I feel your pain - I've been without my bike for a few weeks now, and it's driving me batty!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on March 27, 2019, 02:52:17 AM
*Originally Posted by uku383 [+]
Nooo... but in news from Australia, my dealer has told me that a 30-bike shipment is imminent. He is pretty confident that he can nab one for me between 1 and 4 April. Apparently there is heaps of demand, so if you do want one in America (and are prepared to buy without a test ride, as I am) you might want to make a downpayment with your dealer, and ask them to use that to press Honda for one of what will be a limited number of bikes.

BTW I feel your pain - I've been without my bike for a few weeks now, and it's driving me batty!

Thanks

 I ordered mine back in January and was told I would get one of a "very limited" allotment for Canada.

I'm guessing similar numbers to what AUS is getting, or even fewer!!!


I was told mid May but I have been hoping they would show up sooner.... Oh well, I'll learn some patience.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 27, 2019, 03:37:22 AM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Just 350cc, just 450cc, just... :008:

I have plenty of days when I miss my little air cooled 250cc Honda Tornado. 23hp, 6 speed and fired up every time. I loved that machine, from what I remember.

But, getting onto the 650 VStrom after having ridden my 300cc Benelli for a year, having big torque and thrust was oh so nice. I certainly miss that too.
I know I, know I said just a little more to many times in the past years- now as old age kicks in things are different no more 500+lbs bikes don't need 100HP and don't need to go over 80mph -I just need a little more room on a bike AKA another 500X
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on March 27, 2019, 04:50:49 AM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
Thanks

 I ordered mine back in January and was told I would get one of a "very limited" allotment for Canada.

I'm guessing similar numbers to what AUS is getting, or even fewer!!!


I was told mid May but I have been hoping they would show up sooner.... Oh well, I'll learn some patience.

Sorry about accusing you of being American - no insult intended to you or them!  :002: :138:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on March 27, 2019, 09:57:50 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
I know I, know I said just a little more to many times in the past years- now as old age kicks in things are different no more 500+lbs bikes don't need 100HP and don't need to go over 80mph -I just need a little more room on a bike AKA another 500X

I've just got my Triumph Sprint back on the road after replacing the stator, and today I started riding it around before my new X arrives (the last one had a pesky problem with a cracked frame).

Anyway, it is fun to open it up, but in all other respects the X is more interesting. The torque on the bigger bike is okay, but it's lazy - there's not the same need to change gears. Also, the weight is horrid. It's a pig to back up a slight incline.

For me at least, the X is the perfectly-sized machine. It will cruise at highway speeds, is extremely nimble, is fun to ride because of having to make use of the gears, and is easy to push around.

I'll get rid of the Sprint in spring, and the only reason that I can think of for me to buy another larger bike (it would be in the upright 'adventure' style, as the sports tour configuration kills my back after 3-4 hours of riding) is for touring with a passenger.

For me the old adage applies: "It's better to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow"... or something like that.  :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 27, 2019, 02:11:40 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
I know I, know I said just a little more to many times in the past years- now as old age kicks in things are different no more 500+lbs bikes don't need 100HP and don't need to go over 80mph -I just need a little more room on a bike AKA another 500X

I've found the same. Also that when I have a fast bike I ride faster, which is not always a good thing.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on March 29, 2019, 03:05:52 AM
2019 seat, available now, cheap enough, who will be the first to retrofit ?

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_2029.png)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on March 29, 2019, 03:17:33 AM
 :035:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on March 29, 2019, 05:27:23 AM
My bike arrived today! The dealer is trying to harvest add-ons from my 2014 over the next week, and I'll probably take possession on Monday 8 April. It's not registered yet, so I can't ride it, but ergonomically it seems very familiar.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Rocker66 on March 29, 2019, 08:54:36 AM
Looking forward to picking my new bike up later today.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ewryly on March 29, 2019, 11:10:04 AM
*Originally Posted by Rocker66 [+]
Looking forward to picking my new bike up later today.

Very exciting!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: PIGLET on March 29, 2019, 01:33:18 PM
 :046: :046: :046: I got mine on 8th of march in white and a good bike it is, so you will enjoy it. :152: :152: :152: :152:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on March 29, 2019, 03:49:24 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
2019 seat, available now, cheap enough, who will be the first to retrofit ?

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_2029.png)

Considering the standard Seat Concepts kit (I have this kit on my bike for two years) is almost $150 delivered now, I would try the 2019 seat. If I knew it would work I would buy one tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: SnowOwl on March 29, 2019, 07:31:48 PM
Anybody have access to a 2019 and a pre-2019 to swap the seats to check fit?

Interestingly, the same outlet lists the pre-2019 seat at $50 more.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Perfictsib on March 29, 2019, 07:45:39 PM
we all know some one who has both models in their work shop..... rally raid.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on March 30, 2019, 02:03:58 AM
*Originally Posted by Rocker66 [+]
Looking forward to picking my new bike up later today.

Pics or it didn't happen.  :017:



 :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on March 30, 2019, 02:46:58 AM
*Originally Posted by Rocker66 [+]
Looking forward to picking my new bike up later today.
looking forward to a report on the differences-this one must be your third 500X
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on April 01, 2019, 09:21:21 PM
T-Rex Racing have a skid plate they say fits the 2019.

lc=z22sz5ehkvnax31uqacdp43awhm41rge3w5jarae12xw03c010c.1554148353394435

Not sure if it's as strong as the RR plate.... but if it's price point is decent and it's better than nothing and I don't have to ship it from England I might give it a try..
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on April 01, 2019, 10:53:08 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
T-Rex Racing have a skid plate they say fits the 2019.

lc=z22sz5ehkvnax31uqacdp43awhm41rge3w5jarae12xw03c010c.1554148353394435

Not sure if it's as strong as the RR plate.... but if it's price point is decent and it's better than nothing and I don't have to ship it from England I might give it a try..

That looks like a nice design - do double check with them that it will fit around the new exhaust on the 2019 bike though - it has a larger cat and different shaped headers - as long as there is enough clearance inside the guard you should be fine as the other pick-up/mounting points remain the same.

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on April 02, 2019, 01:17:20 AM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
T-Rex Racing have a skid plate they say fits the 2019.

lc=z22sz5ehkvnax31uqacdp43awhm41rge3w5jarae12xw03c010c.1554148353394435

Not sure if it's as strong as the RR plate.... but if it's price point is decent and it's better than nothing and I don't have to ship it from England I might give it a try..

Even with that door for the oil filter I can see it making a big ol' mess inside of that skid plate.

Nice to see other companies taking on the X anyway. Thanks for sharing.  :821:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: blumtnman on April 02, 2019, 01:27:52 AM
Hmm, says on the YouTube comments it fits the '19. I think I'll wait for the Rally Raid version.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on April 02, 2019, 02:38:57 AM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
T-Rex Racing have a skid plate they say fits the 2019.

lc=z22sz5ehkvnax31uqacdp43awhm41rge3w5jarae12xw03c010c.1554148353394435

Not sure if it's as strong as the RR plate.... but if it's price point is decent and it's better than nothing and I don't have to ship it from England I might give it a try..

I would be very leery of that plate. It mounts similar to the SW Motec and the Motorrad Planet plate. Those are known to be very weak and fold when they get rubbed or hit.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 02, 2019, 07:23:11 AM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
T-Rex Racing have a skid plate they say fits the 2019.

Not sure if it's as strong as the RR plate.... but if it's price point is decent and it's better than nothing and I don't have to ship it from England I might give it a try..

Nice find! Great idea on them to consider the oil changes (horizontal mounted filters aren't bad, just let it drain longer and put a rag under to avoid a messy job)

Not even close to RR plate in strength but will work for me. I've been looking maximum frontal coverage. Still will keep my eye out for RR Version2 plate

Found this from T-REX. Looks like the Thai rear rack but will likely be aluminum. Large area to mount almost any type of topbox and keep the oem grab rails


 :047: :401: Looks like the start of other manufacturers getting into the CB500X game :401:  :047:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: alphonsus on April 02, 2019, 12:39:56 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I would be very leery of that plate. It mounts similar to the SW Motec and the Motorrad Planet plate. Those are known to be very weak and fold when they get rubbed or hit.

Really? Can you point to some references re: this? I read nothing but positives about the SW Motech plate. (I've got one on order...)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on April 02, 2019, 04:34:00 PM
*Originally Posted by alphonsus [+]
Really? Can you point to some references re: this? I read nothing but positives about the SW Motech plate. (I've got one on order...)

Member McRat rubbed one against a stump and mangled his. There have been several reports on the CB500X thread on ADVrider. I can't chase those posts down right now but they are here and advrider.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: woody on April 02, 2019, 07:09:38 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
T-Rex Racing have a skid plate they say fits the 2019.

lc=z22sz5ehkvnax31uqacdp43awhm41rge3w5jarae12xw03c010c.1554148353394435

Not sure if it's as strong as the RR plate.... but if it's price point is decent and it's better than nothing and I don't have to ship it from England I might give it a try..

Have you got a price on this yet? could just be what I'm after  :037:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 02, 2019, 07:29:34 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
Member McRat rubbed one against a stump and mangled his. There have been several reports on the CB500X thread on ADVrider. I can't chase those posts down right now but they are here and advrider.

same reply as the other forum

True but different skid plates for different types of riding.
What I'm looking for is protection from this, Fast Forward to 4:40 second mark
Protecting the front from being sandblasted from thousands of miles/kms of use

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: alphonsus on April 03, 2019, 12:24:52 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
Member McRat rubbed one against a stump and mangled his. There have been several reports on the CB500X thread on ADVrider. I can't chase those posts down right now but they are here and advrider.

Right, OK, thanks. I found a few mentions now. I'm not too worried for my use (which is not that hardcore) I think the SW will suffice. I'm more looking for proctection against stones, and a bit more sturdy than the plastic OEM guard. I like the RR stuff but find them a bit pricey, and in this case didn't love how it leaves downpipes exposed. Also SW will fit with Givi crash bars which I already have.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on April 04, 2019, 01:11:52 AM
*Originally Posted by alphonsus [+]
Right, OK, thanks. I found a few mentions now. I'm not too worried for my use (which is not that hardcore) I think the SW will suffice. I'm more looking for proctection against stones, and a bit more sturdy than the plastic OEM guard. I like the RR stuff but find them a bit pricey, and in this case didn't love how it leaves downpipes exposed. Also SW will fit with Givi crash bars which I already have.

 :062:

*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
same reply as the other forum

True but different skid plates for different types of riding.
What I'm looking for is protection from this, Fast Forward to 4:40 second mark
Protecting the front from being sandblasted from thousands of miles/kms of use


A fender extender and almost any skid plate with a front lip will work for keeping the lower sump from debris hitting it. No one knows what will fit the 2019 model. They are just now going out to dealers. I don't know if any have hit North America yet. They are a good bit different than the pre '19 models.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 04, 2019, 02:41:13 AM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]

A fender extender and almost any skid plate with a front lip will work for keeping the lower sump from debris hitting it. No one knows what will fit the 2019 model. They are just now going out to dealers. I don't know if any have hit North America yet. They are a good bit different than the pre '19 models.

No thanks. Why buy a fender extender & skidplate when one item, the TREX skidplate can take care of it.

They are saying it fits the 2019. If it does not, it would be a credit card/paypal complaint and win for the buyer.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on April 04, 2019, 03:24:03 PM
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
No thanks. Why buy a fender extender & skidplate when one item, the TREX skidplate can take care of it.

They are saying it fits the 2019. If it does not, it would be a credit card/paypal complaint and win for the buyer.

 :028:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on April 04, 2019, 04:30:42 PM
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
No thanks. Why buy a fender extender & skidplate when one item, the TREX skidplate can take care of it.

They are saying it fits the 2019. If it does not, it would be a credit card/paypal complaint and win for the buyer.


I'm the one who asked them that question on the YouTube thread and I'm very sceptical of T-Rex's answer.  I have yet to even hear of a 2019 being seen in the wild in North America.  We are still being told mid May is the earliest we should see bikes hitting the dealers. And, if the  rumours and my dealer are correct it sounds like there is a very limited number of bikes trickling out in North america to help sell off the backlog of older models....So how would T-Rex know if it fits or not? I think they have no clue and are basing that statement off of a guess.

While I believe the bottom end of the frame is unchanged from earlier versions, and the majority of the engine parts/packaging is unchanged, the  reported wider clutch cover  and different exhaust manifold  shapes could indeed be an issue for fitting stuff designed for previous years models...

If anyone at RR  has any comment that would be appreciated here.

I'm taking the T-rex claim with a grain of salt till I see definitive proof the unit fits a 2019.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on April 04, 2019, 06:22:35 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]

I'm the one who asked them that question on the YouTube thread and I'm very sceptical of T-Rex's answer.  I have yet to even hear of a 2019 being seen in the wild in North America.  We are still being told mid May is the earliest we should see bikes hitting the dealers. And, if the  rumours and my dealer are correct it sounds like there is a very limited number of bikes trickling out in North america to help sell off the backlog of older models....So how would T-Rex know if it fits or not? I think they have no clue and are basing that statement off of a guess.

While I believe the bottom end of the frame is unchanged from earlier versions, and the majority of the engine parts/packaging is unchanged, the  reported wider clutch cover  and different exhaust manifold  shapes could indeed be an issue for fitting stuff designed for previous years models...

If anyone at RR  has any comment that would be appreciated here.

I'm taking the T-rex claim with a grain of salt till I see definitive proof the unit fits a 2019.

Hi Skidoo - I did actually comment on this [potential issue] a couple of pages back here: https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,7878.msg82078.html#msg82078

While the pick-up/mounting locations that T-Rex are using haven't changed between the earlier and 2019 models, the exhaust catalytic converter on the new bike is noticeably larger, plus the headers are a slightly different shape too - so unless there is a lot of room inside the current 'bucket' (for want of a better term - I really don't mean to sound disparaging), there is a danger the 2019 cat and headers may not fit comfortably inside.

As you suggest, since T-Rex are a US based company, it's unlikely they have actually got their hands on a 2019 bike to physically check it fits.

Certainly John at Rally-Raid has had to make some dimension adjustments to the design of the existing guard so that it will fit all model years in future.

Hope that helps...

Jenny x

ps. As I said here and on the same subject over on ADVrider, I think this is a nice looking guard, and could well be exactly what Kickertwo wants/needs... however, even if they do offer a full refund, personally I wouldn't want the hassle of lugging an engine guard down to the UPS store to return it if it didn't fit his 2019 bike - although someone has to be a guinea pig I suppose. I'd be inclined to wait until the 2019 bikes have landed here and T-Rex have checked it fits themselves?



Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on April 05, 2019, 02:44:22 AM
.... plus it looks like crap.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Aikenrunner on April 05, 2019, 04:07:22 AM
Got an update from my local Honda dealer today on availability of the 19 in the US. He said the Honda rep told him they would be available to order this month for delivery in May. I have one on order!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on April 05, 2019, 04:24:04 AM
*Originally Posted by Aikenrunner [+]
Got an update from my local Honda dealer today on availability of the 19 in the US. He said the Honda rep told him they would be available to order this month for delivery in May. I have one on order!
Same thing I was told
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Antwon412 on April 05, 2019, 04:28:51 AM
I was able to order mine on March 16th.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on April 05, 2019, 05:38:50 AM
I collected my 2019 bike today.

First impression is that it seems a little skittish, but that's likely because I've been riding a heavier sports tourer for a few weeks, so the X is no longer as familiar as it once was.

The handlebars are a bit higher than my previous 2014 bike. The display is dim in sunlight, although it is much more informative than the last. It has a gear indicator, and reports amount of fuel used during a trip, which is very nice.

The passenger rails are also nice - they are metal, whereas I think that the old ones were plastic. One thing that I especially like is the rear wheel tensioner, which is an improved design that doesn't involve the back plug falling out. Luggage racks from my old bike were harvested for the new one with no problem, however the centre stand can't be transferred as there's some difference in the mounting points (the centre stand isn't available yet (and won't be for a few weeks) which is a bit annoying, but them's the breaks). The radiator guard was also transferred between the two. My old Arrow exhaust also fitted, but the shop had to make a bracket for it (of course, I've kept the OEM pipe).

I had Oxford heated grips fitted, and barkbusters. However, the shop had to cut down the grips by about 1cm to fit, which I find a bit annoying as I've got large hands. Only other thing that I'm really keen to put on right now, is a tank pad.

I was interested in the new windscreen as I'd heard that it was an improvement on the first series screen, but it seems to be much the same re noise and airflow.

Although it only has 4% more torque, I felt as though I could notice a difference. However, 4% isn't much, so that could simply have been a placebo effect.

Warranty is two years, which I think is pretty standard.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 05, 2019, 05:40:37 AM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]

I'm the one who asked them that question on the YouTube thread and I'm very sceptical of T-Rex's answer.  I have yet to even hear of a 2019 being seen in the wild in North America.  We are still being told mid May is the earliest we should see bikes hitting the dealers. And, if the  rumours and my dealer are correct it sounds like there is a very limited number of bikes trickling out in North america to help sell off the backlog of older models....So how would T-Rex know if it fits or not? I think they have no clue and are basing that statement off of a guess.

While I believe the bottom end of the frame is unchanged from earlier versions, and the majority of the engine parts/packaging is unchanged, the  reported wider clutch cover  and different exhaust manifold  shapes could indeed be an issue for fitting stuff designed for previous years models...

If anyone at RR  has any comment that would be appreciated here.

I'm taking the T-rex claim with a grain of salt till I see definitive proof the unit fits a 2019.

Thanks for asking them the question on youtube (should have notice the username). You are from Canada so your delivery time will be a lot more and so will be your disappointment if they are wrong. Install should be quick for fitment, if they wrong, I'll get full refund, they will pay return shipping and I have major courier pickup at work.... Or, I'll wait for someone else try it out first  :016:

Do Not know why some are getting worked up here about a new skidplate  :233:
If you plan on seesawing you CBX on a log or rock go for RR plate. Want a low profile plate go for SWMotech
For the record, I only mention those two since they are the bigger names. I don't know about 2019 fitment :179:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 05, 2019, 06:12:17 AM
*Originally Posted by uku383 [+]
I collected my 2019 bike today.

First impression is that it seems a little skittish, but that's likely because I've been riding a heavier sports tourer for a few weeks, so the X is no longer as familiar as it once was.

The handlebars are a bit higher than my previous 2014 bike. The display is dim in sunlight, although it is much more informative than the last. It has a gear indicator, and reports amount of fuel used during a trip, which is very nice.

The passenger rails are also nice - they are metal, whereas I think that the old ones were plastic. One thing that I especially like is the rear wheel tensioner, which is an improved design that doesn't involve the back plug falling out. Luggage racks from my old bike were harvested for the new one with no problem, however the centre stand can't be transferred as there's some difference in the mounting points (the centre stand isn't available yet (and won't be for a few weeks) which is a bit annoying, but them's the breaks). The radiator guard was also transferred between the two. My old Arrow exhaust also fitted, but the shop had to make a bracket for it (of course, I've kept the OEM pipe).

I had Oxford heated grips fitted, and barkbusters. However, the shop had to cut down the grips by about 1cm to fit, which I find a bit annoying as I've got large hands. Only other thing that I'm really keen to put on right now, is a tank pad.

I was interested in the new windscreen as I'd heard that it was an improvement on the first series screen, but it seems to be much the same re noise and airflow.

Although it only has 4% more torque, I felt as though I could notice a difference. However, 4% isn't much, so that could simply have been a placebo effect.

Warranty is two years, which I think is pretty standard.

Display : An owner mentioned that the display brightness can be adjusted, Ill see if I can find the link
Windscreen: Have you raise it to the upper position?
Torque: 4% more torque from 3k-7k rpm. Not 4% more max torque but it is also 4% more hp on the same range.

Been waiting for a compatibility post like this. THANKS

Center Stand: pre-2019 center stand does not fit

Luggage : pre-2019 fits (several owners have confirm this)

Radiator Guard : pre-2019 fits

Exhaust: pre-2019 are not a direct fit (custom bracket mount needed)

Oxford heated grips: pre-2019 is not a direct fit (needs 1cm cut off)

Barkbusters: pre-2019 is a question but AfricaTwin barkbuster fit

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CaptainBart45 on April 05, 2019, 06:19:32 AM
I apologize for my language. Anyhow, can't seem to post.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on April 05, 2019, 09:11:38 AM
Full test of the 2019 CB500X in this month's Motorcycle Sport and Leisure magazine.

Their review is very positive - they mention that the new instruments are not bright enough in full sun (even on the highest setting), they found the handlebars a little bit low for standing up (maybe he was a big tall guy!!), they suggested that the taller stance from the 19" wheel and related raising of the rear end makes steering just a little more vague on road, with a little bit more pitching under braking, but then somehow they only managed 60.5mpg, so God knows how hard they were riding!!   :033:

Overall a very good review of the facelifted bike, the improved quality, the torquey engine and the light controls, with performance that means it doesn't need to be flogged to maintain decent progress, as you might some of it's smaller engine/lower powered A2-license 'rivals'....you know the ones!!  :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on April 05, 2019, 09:12:22 AM
I just need to clarify that the barkbusters are in fact new. They are the same ones that fit the Africa Twin. I used to have the OEM version, but want impressed (not much wind protection and no bar).

I'd also liked to add that there is a temperature gauge on the new display, which I like as it will help to confirm that the engine is warmed up. 🙂
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on April 05, 2019, 02:24:49 PM
Dropped into local dealer for a look at the 2019 bike - VERY nice!!

New 'bodywork' with that (plastic) aluminium colour frame panel looks good, and it has more of a big Honda look, the 19" front wheel is not that obvious, although personally I prefer the old spoke design, which has a little more shape to it than the multiple straight spokes.  Big deal, eh?!   :138:

I don't mind the 'tyre track' stripes on the X, but for those who like to remove them, the ones on the tank are under the clearcoat again.

Fortunately, I didn't find myself lusting after it and wanting to change from my 2017!!  :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on April 05, 2019, 03:23:03 PM
*Originally Posted by uku383 [+]
I collected my 2019 bike today.

First impression is that it seems a little skittish, but that's likely because I've been riding a heavier sports tourer for a few weeks, so the X is no longer as familiar as it once was.

The handlebars are a bit higher than my previous 2014 bike. The display is dim in sunlight, although it is much more informative than the last. It has a gear indicator, and reports amount of fuel used during a trip, which is very nice.

The passenger rails are also nice - they are metal, whereas I think that the old ones were plastic. One thing that I especially like is the rear wheel tensioner, which is an improved design that doesn't involve the back plug falling out. Luggage racks from my old bike were harvested for the new one with no problem, however the centre stand can't be transferred as there's some difference in the mounting points (the centre stand isn't available yet (and won't be for a few weeks) which is a bit annoying, but them's the breaks). The radiator guard was also transferred between the two. My old Arrow exhaust also fitted, but the shop had to make a bracket for it (of course, I've kept the OEM pipe).

I had Oxford heated grips fitted, and barkbusters. However, the shop had to cut down the grips by about 1cm to fit, which I find a bit annoying as I've got large hands. Only other thing that I'm really keen to put on right now, is a tank pad.

I was interested in the new windscreen as I'd heard that it was an improvement on the first series screen, but it seems to be much the same re noise and airflow.

Although it only has 4% more torque, I felt as though I could notice a difference. However, 4% isn't much, so that could simply have been a placebo effect.

Warranty is two years, which I think is pretty standard.
And so it starts riders who have owned a pre 2019 now compairing the two -just what we need to know put a couple of weeks under your belt on the bike that should be enough time to recognize all the differences  between the two and please report back
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on April 05, 2019, 05:43:51 PM
*Originally Posted by uku383 [+]
I collected my 2019 bike today.

First impression is that it seems a little skittish, but that's likely because I've been riding a heavier sports tourer for a few weeks, so the X is no longer as familiar as it once was.

The handlebars are a bit higher than my previous 2014 bike. The display is dim in sunlight, although it is much more informative than the last. It has a gear indicator, and reports amount of fuel used during a trip, which is very nice.

The passenger rails are also nice - they are metal, whereas I think that the old ones were plastic. One thing that I especially like is the rear wheel tensioner, which is an improved design that doesn't involve the back plug falling out. Luggage racks from my old bike were harvested for the new one with no problem, however the centre stand can't be transferred as there's some difference in the mounting points (the centre stand isn't available yet (and won't be for a few weeks) which is a bit annoying, but them's the breaks). The radiator guard was also transferred between the two. My old Arrow exhaust also fitted, but the shop had to make a bracket for it (of course, I've kept the OEM pipe).

I had Oxford heated grips fitted, and barkbusters. However, the shop had to cut down the grips by about 1cm to fit, which I find a bit annoying as I've got large hands. Only other thing that I'm really keen to put on right now, is a tank pad.

I was interested in the new windscreen as I'd heard that it was an improvement on the first series screen, but it seems to be much the same re noise and airflow.

Although it only has 4% more torque, I felt as though I could notice a difference. However, 4% isn't much, so that could simply have been a placebo effect.

Warranty is two years, which I think is pretty standard.

If anyone is going to give the new bike a shakedown I'm sure it will be you with the way you put miles on a bike. Keep us posted on your progress with it.  :821:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on April 06, 2019, 11:18:08 AM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
If anyone is going to give the new bike a shakedown I'm sure it will be you with the way you put miles on a bike. Keep us posted on your progress with it.  :821:

LOL! I really do need to spend time doing something other than riding, but it's so damned fun!  :008: :008: :821:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Marv_ on April 06, 2019, 11:24:25 AM
Interesting that the 2019 bike feels skittish compared to your old one. Isn't the wheelbase slightly longer than the old bike? Should feel be more stable, if anything.

There again, if your old bike was on decent tyres, and the 2019 bike still has pretty bad OEM tyres, maybe that might be why it feels skittish?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on April 06, 2019, 11:44:26 AM
*Originally Posted by Marv_ [+]
Interesting that the 2019 bike feels skittish compared to your old one. Isn't the wheelbase slightly longer than the old bike? Should feel be more stable, if anything.

There again, if your old bike was on decent tyres, and the 2019 bike still has pretty bad OEM tyres, maybe that might be why it feels skittish?

Hey Marv_. I totally understand what you're saying. I didn't want that to be a taken as a major point, because the sports tourer I've been riding for the past few weeks is about 100kg heavier and has wider tyres and a completely different geometry and seating position. So I'm not really surprised by my very early experience of the new bike. Sorry if I didn't emphasise that point enough - it was a very quick posting, and I should have taken more time to provide a better explanation of the circumstances.

My new X is at work at the moment, but I'm taking it home tomorrow (Sunday) and expect to put on at least 1,000km over the next week (unless I have to travel for work), so I'll have a much better view of it then. I fully expect to settle into it quite quickly. I'm really looking forward to taking it through the hills, but will try and be a responsible new owner and not thrash the engine for a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: uku383 on April 09, 2019, 04:26:34 PM
A quick update for those who've bought the 2019 model: Fuelly has added the bike to their database, so you can start tracking your fuel-ups.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: blumtnman on April 10, 2019, 12:03:22 AM
*Originally Posted by uku383 [+]
A quick update for those who've bought the 2019 model: Fuelly has added the bike to their database, so you can start tracking your fuel-ups.

I'd love to do that, however Mr Honda Aus says the new shipment of bikes is still 2-3 weeks away. Not impressed.
Hope you're very happy with yours, not that I'm jealous oh no, well not much anyway!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on April 10, 2019, 05:02:42 PM
Finally, one of my favourite bike channels have got their review up.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on April 10, 2019, 06:42:38 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Finally, one of my favourite bike channels have got their review up.


Great review! - I recommend you push through the nasty music at 1.00-1.30, and enjoy the rest of what he has to say!

Jenny x
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: CB-500-X on April 11, 2019, 01:19:36 AM
Good review. Looks like a softly sprung and under dampend bouncy suspension that needs to be "Rally Raided" , but boy is she pretty !  :028:
Better suspension and tires , a fender extender and radiator protection and it would make a perfect everyday road bike.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 11, 2019, 03:58:06 AM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Finally, one of my favourite bike channels have got their review up.

Thanks for the DriveMag Riders link. Can't wait for their next 2019 CB500X adventure

The best quote from the video is, the CB500X is half the price of the AfricaTwin but it is more than half the bike (not exact words).
How much more depends of each individual... but I think we can all agree with 53 pages and counting, the 2019 is a great bike
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 11, 2019, 04:22:25 AM
The 2019 catching some air (not much but it is a CB500X) and some dirt riding. 
Fast forward to 3:30seconds for dirt and 6:10seconds for the jump. Surprise that the rear compression/rebound was smoother than expected.

Before anyone complains (as they did with the high speed Tenerife press launch riding), jumping this bike or any non-MX suspension equipped bike is bad for the motorcycle. It's only a REVIEW!!!


(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.ytimg.com/vi/theeNK22nvE/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on April 11, 2019, 12:33:51 PM
The new downpipes and lack of undertray/sump guard make the left side look a bit naff if you ask me. Needs a guard or the original X plastic undertray to finish it off. Will look pretty good (for a modern bike anyway!) then. I’m erring towards the black at the moment - the silver on the red and white looks a bit too erm, silver. The black has a more gunmetal colour on those areas.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on April 11, 2019, 12:55:04 PM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
The new downpipes and lack of undertray/sump guard make the left side look a bit naff if you ask me. Needs a guard or the original X plastic undertray to finish it off. Will look pretty good (for a modern bike anyway!) then. I’m erring towards the black at the moment - the silver on the red and white looks a bit too erm, silver. The black has a more gunmetal colour on those areas.

They really should have kept the belly pan from the 2016 and before, looked a lot better, and considering they're trying to push the new model as an adventure bike it's odd that it didn't make a return.

If I were to purchase it would be the black colour too.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on April 11, 2019, 01:35:27 PM
They’ve missed a trick there - they should have made a nice alloy guard and had it as an accessory.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on April 11, 2019, 02:25:22 PM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
They’ve missed a trick there - they should have made a nice alloy guard and had it as an accessory.

Makes you wonder if perhaps they're cooking up a mini-AT.  :084:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on April 11, 2019, 02:47:31 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
They really should have kept the belly pan from the 2016 and before, looked a lot better, and considering they're trying to push the new model as an adventure bike it's odd that it didn't make a return.

If I were to purchase it would be the black colour too.

*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
They’ve missed a trick there - they should have made a nice alloy guard and had it as an accessory.

This comes up every time a new 'adventure' bike is launched... the problem is, all OEM accessories like this are a bit rubbish - built down to a price/ primarily cosmetic etc. etc. - and almost inevitably replaced as soon as the owner starts to take their bike off-road more seriously or on a trip... and even OEM dirt-bike skid plates are usually replace by something more substantial if you're actually going to race or ride the bike in seriously rough conditions.

Same goes for luggage racks - if the OEM stuff was so good, why would anyone buy Givi, SWMotech, Touratech etc. - you really can't expect a mainstream manufacturer to cater to every individual's needs and preferences.

Consider there is also the issue regarding weight - an actually strong/useful engine guard and other 'all-terrain touring' accessories would add weight to base specification - something all manufacturers try to avoid these days.

Personally I'd rather save the $100 it would cost for the OEM manufacturer to put a token guard on the bike from the base price, and put that money towards something that actually does a proper job if I actually require it?

Jenny x




Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: hilldweller on April 11, 2019, 03:08:18 PM
Another complimentary write up in Motor Cycle News UK. Probably on line now. But one BUT, you can't read the clocks.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on April 11, 2019, 06:30:53 PM
I'm not really meaning a full on (and over the top for most people) guard like the RR one Jenny, even the plastic one was better than nothing - looks wise anyway. And let's face it looks are a very important thing. So to market a bike looking like something is missing and then not offering a bolt on accessory is I think missing a trick.

The BS Motorparts guard I had on my '13 X was fine for most things like flying rocks etc and only cost about £120. So probably about £100 of profit for Honda if they offered something similar.

I was quite happy with some of the Honda accessories, the centre stand was spot on in quality and operation and I'll probably stick with Honda luggage if I get another X.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on April 11, 2019, 06:51:01 PM
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
I'm not really meaning a full on (and over the top for most people) guard like the RR one Jenny, even the plastic one was better than nothing - looks wise anyway. And let's face it looks are a very important thing. So to market a bike looking like something is missing and then not offering a bolt on accessory is I think missing a trick.

The BS Motorparts guard I had on my '13 X was fine for most things like flying rocks etc and only cost about £120. So probably about £100 of profit for Honda if they offered something similar.

I was quite happy with some of the Honda accessories, the centre stand was spot on in quality and operation and I'll probably stick with Honda luggage if I get another X.

I know what you're saying, and I'm sure Honda will offer a range of [2019 specific] accessories to compliment their existing range of parts for the CB500X - luggage, rear racks and quite possibly some sort of belly pan/skid plate too. As far as I'm aware there is no longer a taller screen option for the CB (since 2016 when it came with a tall screen as standard) from Honda, but again, all of these kinds of parts are also well catered for from the 3rd party aftermarket already.

My point was primarily that there is no point in including 'accessories' as standard, as it only increases the base-price and are almost always replaced with something else once you [the owner] starts to personalise their bike based on there own specific requirements anyway... coupled with the fact that generally speaking, OEM 'accessories' are not the best example of their kind out there, and often significantly more expensive than 3rd party alternatives too.

That said, I always like the OEM cast rear-rack/grab handle combo for the CB500X - it looked very neat. Similarly as you say, if you want a centre stand, the Honda accessory one is as good as any out there and not much more expensive either.

Out of interest, has anyone seen an accessory catalogue/collection for the latest CB range yet?

Jx



Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on April 11, 2019, 09:11:26 PM
There's a thread about accessories on here Jenny, you have to go the online configurator and go through as if you are ordering 'your' bike. There doesn't seem to be much to excite the hardcore farkler!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Phill on April 13, 2019, 06:41:19 PM
Swapped my 2017 model for the 2019 one in March.
Well worth changing.
The riding position is more upright and relaxed, and with no wind pressure on your body this feels very natural. Handling with the bigger front wheel is lighter and accurate. Shock absorption is much better, and riding the Peak District back roads this is a big plus over the old model. Old one could bottom out two-up but this one is far better.
Gear changes with the slipper clutch are smoother all round.
Gear indicator, and clocks that you can move/change to suit your preferences are a bonus.
Nice touch is the automatic countdown of fuel remaining and mileage travelled when the computer sees you are on reserve.

In summary, I liked the old model and did not realise the new one could be much better, but it was, in spades.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Rocker66 on April 13, 2019, 11:11:30 PM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
Yeah, if it ain't broke don't fix it?

Quite nice new clocks, facelift to body panels and badging and a trimmed down front mudguard are about all I can see...….. I wonder if they've put better tyres on it!!
19” front wheel more torque different better sounding can taller seat height slipper clutch which is much lighter. As to whether they have fitted better tyres I can assure you the answer is NO!!!. Also choice of replacements is limited due to the 19” front.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 14, 2019, 02:21:12 AM
*Originally Posted by blumtnman [+]
I'd love to do that, however Mr Honda Aus says the new shipment of bikes is still 2-3 weeks away. Not impressed.
Hope you're very happy with yours, not that I'm jealous oh no, well not much anyway!

more like 2-3 days since you posted your reply EDIT youtuber below has a video from April 8th showing the new 2019

2019 CB500X are in Australia. Nothing yet for the USA. We are last and that seems right as I've only seen a handful since 2014 (not a big CB500 market here)

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: blumtnman on April 14, 2019, 03:11:35 AM
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
more like 2-3 days since you posted your reply EDIT youtuber below has a video from April 8th showing the new 2019

2019 CB500X are in Australia. Nothing yet for the USA. We are last and that seems right as I've only seen a handful since 2014 (not a big CB500 market here)


Oh how happy I was to see that, WRONG! That one must have been one of the pre-ordered ones. Spoke to the dealer yesterday, answer will you go away! ( not quite as polite as that!) Answer is still the same after Easter. Jealous of all the pre-ordered ones, oh not at all :232:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 14, 2019, 06:42:40 AM
*Originally Posted by blumtnman [+]
Oh how happy I was to see that, WRONG! That one must have been one of the pre-ordered ones. Spoke to the dealer yesterday, answer will you go away! ( not quite as polite as that!) Answer is still the same after Easter. Jealous of all the pre-ordered ones, oh not at all :232:

That is strange that they would only import what has been pre-order. Were pre-order #s limited? Or, you weren't ready to buy?
Here, Honda dealer take pre-orders but Larger/Mega Honda dealers are required to order extra.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: blumtnman on April 14, 2019, 06:47:41 AM
Honda Aus, very inscrutable. As far as I've been informed thats all they could get from the first shipment. No idea who, what, or why, first shipment all sold to waiting buyers. Don't forget Aus market way smaller than most.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: eightysix on April 14, 2019, 04:38:57 PM
It's quite similiar here in Germany. The first three dealers I called had one to three CB500X on preorder and all were already sold.
So I asked when will I get one, when I ordner now, answer -> they are sold out, next will arrive in August  :191:

Happly the fourth dealer (quite big, 200km away) had still one preordered available.
So I just took it without any real negotiation, PickUp date is next week :D
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on April 14, 2019, 05:40:03 PM
*Originally Posted by eightysix [+]
It's quite similiar here in Germany. The first three dealers I called had one to three CB500X on preorder and all were already sold.
So I asked when will I get one, when I ordner now, answer -> they are sold out, next will arrive in August  :191:

Happly the fourth dealer (quite big, 200km away) had still one preordered available.
So I just took it without any real negotiation, PickUp date is next week :D

Welcome and congrats. There have been a number of new members here on the forum with the 2019 release. Definitely a nice update for those who needed a little push towards the CB500X. Happy riding.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: eightysix on April 15, 2019, 04:43:35 PM
Thanks :) I got my A2 license (48HP max) last year and was actually looking for CB500F, as I liked the concept of the X but not really the styling. But with the improvements of the new version I just couldn't say no to the X :D
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on April 15, 2019, 05:21:04 PM
*Originally Posted by eightysix [+]
Thanks :) I got my A2 license (48HP max) last year and was actually looking for CB500F, as I liked the concept of the X but not really the styling. But with the improvements of the new version I just couldn't say no to the X :D

I don't think you'll be disappointed.  :821:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Moreorles on April 16, 2019, 12:03:34 AM
*Originally Posted by blumtnman [+]
Honda Aus, very inscrutable. As far as I've been informed thats all they could get from the first shipment. No idea who, what, or why, first shipment all sold to waiting buyers. Don't forget Aus market way smaller than most.


Actually that's not quite right. I walked into a bike shop near you last week, and they had an available 2019 bike in stock which I'm picking up today.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: blumtnman on April 16, 2019, 12:10:08 AM
*Originally Posted by Moreorles [+]
*Originally Posted by blumtnman [+]
Honda Aus, very inscrutable. As far as I've been informed thats all they could get from the first shipment. No idea who, what, or why, first shipment all sold to waiting buyers. Don't forget Aus market way smaller than most.


Actually that's not quite right. I walked into a bike shop near you last week, and they had an available 2019 bike in stock which I'm picking up today.

It is quite right in the fact that I repeated what I was told. Where or when there may be other 19's for sale I was not told about. Why would one dealer recommend another? The first dealer would then miss out on the sale. What then if the dealer only repeated to me what they had been told? Arguments both for and against. As for going even further into the city and looking for something that may or may not be there, no thanks. I leave that to the people that like cities, which is not me.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on April 18, 2019, 05:44:16 AM
Waiting. Still waiting :139: :139:
May can’t vome fast enough
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: eightysix on April 18, 2019, 06:04:48 AM
Got mine yesterday  :152:

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_20190417_200444197_HDR.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: woody on April 18, 2019, 07:19:14 AM
*Originally Posted by eightysix [+]
Got mine yesterday  :152:

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_20190417_200444197_HDR.jpg)

 :062:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Tradey on April 18, 2019, 07:49:58 AM
I have the 2019 Owners Manual in PDF format from Honda Australia, 5.6mb. Can anyone host this for public download somewhere ?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on April 18, 2019, 05:05:28 PM
*Originally Posted by Tradey [+]
I have the 2019 Owners Manual in PDF format from Honda Australia, 5.6mb. Can anyone host this for public download somewhere ?

Sharing of copyrighted material is frowned upon. If you're going to share it, do it privately.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on April 18, 2019, 05:13:05 PM
*Originally Posted by eightysix [+]
Got mine yesterday  :152:

As a committed original model owner I have to say................ Nice bike!!  :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Tradey on April 19, 2019, 12:04:06 AM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Sharing of copyrighted material is frowned upon. If you're going to share it, do it privately.

Yes, the manual is copyright of Honda.  It is a public domain document and issued no charge so long as you don't copy the contents.  You should visit Wikipedia and brush up on your legal terminology.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on April 19, 2019, 06:04:59 AM
*Originally Posted by Tradey [+]
Yes, the manual is copyright of Honda.  It is a public domain document and issued no charge so long as you don't copy the contents.  You should visit Wikipedia and brush up on your legal terminology.

I was thinking service manual, not owners manual. Sorry to offend.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on April 20, 2019, 10:45:10 PM
Went to the dealers today to have a look at the 2019 X and have a sit on it. I really liked it, looks even better in the flesh. Really liked it in red as well. Most importantly it didn't feel any different height wise which was worrying me slightly. It's been over a year since I sold my X but it felt just the same as I remember when sat on it. The new seat seemed a bit softer which is good as well. Didn't get chance to see the dash lit up so that will have to wait for the test ride.

I also sat on an Africa Twin which is something I've been thinking about going for instead of the X. It's a superb bike but so heavy feeling compared to the X. Seat height was fine for me but it's getting on and off that is the problem - just too high at the back. I'm not going to rule the AT out (95 bhp can be very persuasive!) but I think the X is looking good at the moment. As soon as I see one all RR'd up I'll probably make my mind up for definite!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 21, 2019, 02:30:52 AM
THE 2019 CB500X HAS LANDED IN AMERICA !!!
Chile, South America... nothing yet for North America

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 23, 2019, 04:53:01 AM
2019 CB500X German review with road and dirt riding. Has Closed Captions. Fast forward to 9:58 to see the ergos if you are 5'9"/175cm.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Tradey on April 24, 2019, 09:14:35 AM
The free public domain CB500X 2019 Owners Manual in PDF format supplied by Honda Motor Co. (Japan) Ltd for visually impaired owners who cannot read grey text is available here, 5.6mb.

https://www.pdfhost.net/index.php?Action=Download&File=e44d60b4e47c6ef92d4d537f9adb1836

Should this post get deleted head over to ADV for the same link:

https://advrider.com/f/threads/honda-cb-500.948583/page-37#post-37421175
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Marv_ on April 24, 2019, 07:54:37 PM
Called into my local Honda dealership today and they finally have a 2019 CB500X in stock, so I had a good poke around it. Have to say, I like what Honda have done. Design wise, they've tidied things up nicely. The 2017 and 2018 bikes now look a little fussy in comparison (though in isolation, they still look great to my eyes)

Clutch lever is considerably lighter on the 2019 bike. It makes no difference to me, as I've never found the lever heavy on my 2017 bike. Looks like the lighter socket must be an option on UK bikes, as it was covered by a blank on this one?

I think Honda have done a really good job with updating CB500 range, some nicely thought out improvements on the bits they've paid attention to. They also had a 2019 CBR500R, which looked magnificent - again, brimming with lots of nice details.

I agree that the 2019 bike is worth the bump up in price, but interestingly the sales person at the dealership told me that the increase has driven people to go for the NC750, as the price difference has shrunk and if the bike is financed through a lease, the monthly payments are identical.

I also had a poke around a CRF250 Rally...now there's a bike I can see myself owning in the near future!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 25, 2019, 02:15:06 AM
2019 CB500X with Upgrades
Givi Dolomiti Panniers
SW Motech skidplate
SW Motech Crashbars
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on April 28, 2019, 10:43:39 PM
2019 CB500X BLACK AND GOLD :062:
Gold Powder Coated/Painted? Wheels
Black IXRACE Carbon Exhaust
Gold Honda Wing Side Decal
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:i.ytimg.com/vi/EewBULaEt70/hqdefault.jpg)

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on April 29, 2019, 05:15:26 AM
Black and gold has to be one of my favorite color combos of all time.  :028:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 04, 2019, 03:16:36 PM
anyone heard anything about USA/Canadian delivery?

I was told mid may and haven't heard a peep from my dealer yet......getting a little antsy.....
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: racer on May 04, 2019, 03:44:28 PM
Someone is reporting a US ship date on their 2019 CB500x of June 10th.  Anyone else hearing anything? 

Racer
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: lesmeister on May 04, 2019, 04:01:05 PM
The latter part of April my dealer said he had a ship date of May 13th.  Haven’t heard anything since then.  May go by today and see if he has any more info.  Have a deposit down on the first one that he gets.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: lesmeister on May 04, 2019, 04:05:59 PM
PS- Have my 2015 listed for sale.  If anyone knows of an interested party, I would appreciate you passing it on.  >6500 miles, has some nice ‘farkels’.  Asking $3500.   Thanks......lesmeister
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 04, 2019, 04:54:40 PM
 :046: :046: :046: :046: :046: :152: :152: :152: :152: :152: :047: :047: :047: :047: :047: :047: :306: :306: :306:

Just got off the phone with my dealer.
Delivery may 9-15th

he said....

"It's a good thing you ordered when you did. Every dealer in Canada has been calling me asking if they can have it. The 2019 is going to be a very rare bike."





Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 04, 2019, 09:07:56 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
:046: :046: :046: :046: :046: :152: :152: :152: :152: :152: :047: :047: :047: :047: :047: :047: :306: :306: :306:

Just got off the phone with my dealer.
Delivery may 9-15th

he said....

"It's a good thing you ordered when you did. Every dealer in Canada has been calling me asking if they can have it. The 2019 is going to be a very rare bike."
Congrats to you sir! Keep us posted in the up coming week  :047: :047:

Looks like Canada is the 1st in North America to get the CB500X. USA is finally next OR LAST.
I checked Mexico and they don't offer the CB500X

EDIT: When did you order your CB500X?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 04, 2019, 09:38:45 PM
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
Congrats to you sir! Keep us posted in the up coming week  :047: :047:

Looks like Canada is the 1st in North America to get the CB500X. USA is finally next OR LAST.
I checked Mexico and they don't offer the CB500X

EDIT: When did you order your CB500X?

OK I GEEKED OUT HARD!
I saw the EICMA info in November and began daily checking the Honda website.
the 2019 appeared on the website on Dec 18th or 19th.
I immediately contacted my dealer he informed me I needed to say yes immediately.  he responded on New Years eve and by Jan 2 I had  a confirmed order.

I might have ben a bit obsessed :112: :112:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: lesmeister on May 05, 2019, 03:57:37 AM
Talked to my dealer today, he expects to have my bike by Friday of next week.  We shall see........got my fingers crossed!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 05, 2019, 07:10:23 PM
Anybody know if Honda has made changes to the rear footage/mounts over the generations? I'm looking at a set of SWMotech blaze panniers for my 2019 and I'm just wondering if older model units will still fit the 19.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 05, 2019, 10:38:05 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
Anybody know if Honda has made changes to the rear footage/mounts over the generations? I'm looking at a set of SWMotech blaze panniers for my 2019 and I'm just wondering if older model units will still fit the 19.

From looking at the images they look the same with the exception of the right side mount (exhaust mount tab moved towards the back). The SWMotech mounts uses the upper passenger mounts tabs and the placement looks the same as the previous years
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 05, 2019, 10:39:43 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
OK I GEEKED OUT HARD!
I saw the EICMA info in November and began daily checking the Honda website.
the 2019 appeared on the website on Dec 18th or 19th.
I immediately contacted my dealer he informed me I needed to say yes immediately.  he responded on New Years eve and by Jan 2 I had  a confirmed order.

I might have ben a bit obsessed :112: :112:

Not obsessed at all. I saw the updates and I was hooked... now Im starting to look away if it takes longer

*Originally Posted by lesmeister [+]
Talked to my dealer today, he expects to have my bike by Friday of next week.  We shall see........got my fingers crossed!

When did you order yours?

CANADA versus USA  :063:
Who is going to get it first?!?!  :148:

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Moreorles on May 05, 2019, 11:12:38 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
Anybody know if Honda has made changes to the rear footage/mounts over the generations? I'm looking at a set of SWMotech blaze panniers for my 2019 and I'm just wondering if older model units will still fit the 19.

I have just purchased the 2019 model and fitted a Ventura rack from the previous model. It uses the rear footpeg mounts as a connection and it fitted on the new bike perfectly, so you should be safe.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 06, 2019, 12:26:16 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on May 06, 2019, 11:57:40 PM
John got his LEVEL 2 2019 demo bike together over the weekend:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8XcmjnJ/0/138bcd80/XL/i-8XcmjnJ-XL.jpg) (https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-smdjd9/i-8XcmjnJ/A)

There will be more details soon in the Rally-Raid Vendor section about the specific 2019 parts together with those current parts that are common to all years.

Jx


Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 07, 2019, 12:31:39 AM
Hi Jenny - Any info on the updated engine guard? I know that the connecting points are different which no longer requires removing the engine bolts during installation. Is there some kind of new design for easier access for oil changes?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on May 07, 2019, 12:44:44 AM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Hi Jenny - Any info on the updated engine guard? I know that the connecting points are different which no longer requires removing the engine bolts during installation. Is there some kind of new design for easier access for oil changes?

Hi ThirtyOne - the engine guard now mounts to separate [billet] lugs which replace the original spacers on the forward engine mounts - and you install them one at a time, which means the frame should not spring out of alignment in the same was as it did before [for some people].

You then offer up the engine guard to the new lugs, which means you have a lot more free play to get everything to line up front and rear before you need to tighten the bolts.

Similarly, if you wish to remove the guard to change the oil (even though you can pivot down from the front as before of course), then getting it off and back on again will be far easier in future - you undo the two bolt that secure the front of the guard (which are separate to the OEM engine mounting bolts now of course) and pull the pin at the rear, and the whole guard can be removed as required.

Hope that helps!

Jenny x
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 07, 2019, 01:50:26 AM
*Originally Posted by JMo [+]
Hi ThirtyOne - the engine guard now mounts to separate [billet] lugs which replace the original spacers on the forward engine mounts - and you install them one at a time, which means the frame should not spring out of alignment in the same was as it did before [for some people].

You then offer up the engine guard to the new lugs, which means you have a lot more free play to get everything to line up front and rear before you need to tighten the bolts.

Similarly, if you wish to remove the guard to change the oil (even though you can pivot down from the front as before of course), then getting it off and back on again will be far easier in future - you undo the two bolt that secure the front of the guard (which are separate to the OEM engine mounting bolts now of course) and pull the pin at the rear, and the whole guard can be removed as required.

Hope that helps!

Jenny x

Thanks for the explanation. Sounds like a good redesign.  :821:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ksmoker2 on May 08, 2019, 01:43:14 AM
Got an update call today on my 2019 I have ordered. They gave me a ship date of 6/10 from the warehouse and should arrive at the dealership a few days later in South Louisiana.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 08, 2019, 04:02:06 AM
*Originally Posted by ksmoker2 [+]
Got an update call today on my 2019 I have ordered. They gave me a ship date of 6/10 from the warehouse and should arrive at the dealership a few days later in South Louisiana.

welcome to the waiting on the pins and needles gang.

The next few days are going to be very tough for me, like the longest Christmas Eve ever. They gave me a 10 day delivery window and I'm really hoping it'll be before this weekend.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on May 08, 2019, 04:21:48 AM
*Originally Posted by ksmoker2 [+]
Got an update call today on my 2019 I have ordered. They gave me a ship date of 6/10 from the warehouse and should arrive at the dealership a few days later in South Louisiana.
May I ask where in south Louisiana and what dealer---I'm in the Lafayette area
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Louis on May 08, 2019, 09:43:12 AM
We get to know each other  :001:

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Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: woody on May 08, 2019, 10:56:14 AM
Very nice Louis  :307:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ksmoker2 on May 08, 2019, 11:22:31 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
May I ask where in south Louisiana and what dealer---I'm in the Lafayette area
Cycle World in Houma
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 08, 2019, 01:29:39 PM
*Originally Posted by Louis [+]
We get to know each other  :001:

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Looking good! I'm a fan of matte black.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 09, 2019, 04:55:34 AM
*Originally Posted by Louis [+]
We get to know each other  :001:

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Thanks. The CB500x on the cobblestone road is my pick. Any rider impressions?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Louis on May 09, 2019, 05:05:07 AM
It is very good. I travel this road every day to work. I live in the countryside.

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Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 09, 2019, 02:09:49 PM
great shots!


today is the 1st day of the delivery window my dealer gave me. fingers crossed. hope to be riding by this weekend!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on May 09, 2019, 06:48:11 PM
Just to let you know that the 2019 model specific section is now live on the Rally-Raid Products web-shop.

http://www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/honda-cb500x-cb500f/2019-honda-cb500x

There is more info in the Rally Raid Vendor section too of course.

Jenny x
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lattugo on May 09, 2019, 11:11:41 PM
 Dick Whistle's review of the 2019 model:

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Revoflyer on May 10, 2019, 02:16:36 AM
Does the Canada/US version have more horsepower since we are not bound by A2 regs - I read somewhere that the engine actually produces 37kW, but some throttle restriction was in place for the A2 market in order to keep it at 35kW
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 10, 2019, 02:44:32 AM
*Originally Posted by Lattugo [+]
Dick Whistle's review of the 2019 model:


Wow, he panned it. The reflection of the dash would drive me nuts. The shifter and brake pedal are adjustable, so that's a moot point.

Funny, when he was at the light at a stop in 3rd I was like "woah, dude forgot to downshift, he's starting from a stop in 3rd." 2 seconds later he explained it. Bike pulls from a stop in 3rd!  :112:

Now I'm super curious to ride one for myself.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 10, 2019, 04:08:26 AM
*Originally Posted by Revoflyer [+]
Does the Canada/US version have more horsepower since we are not bound by A2 regs - I read somewhere that the engine actually produces 37kW, but some throttle restriction was in place for the A2 market in order to keep it at 35kW

Power is the same across the continents. US does not list the number on the website but I remember the Canadian site listing the same power as Europe.
Yes, you did read that. It was a Honda engineered talking about the 2019+ engine changes being able to produce more power than what A2 allows.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 10, 2019, 04:42:06 AM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Wow, he panned it. The reflection of the dash would drive me nuts. The shifter and brake pedal are adjustable, so that's a moot point.

Funny, when he was at the light at a stop in 3rd I was like "woah, dude forgot to downshift, he's starting from a stop in 3rd." 2 seconds later he explained it. Bike pulls from a stop in 3rd!  :112:

Now I'm super curious to ride one for myself.

Isn't it the same shifter and the exactly same gearing (internals & sprockets) as the -2018? From everything I read it is the same other than the geardog and slipper clutch so what the heck is he complaining about being geared too low. The rear tire is also still a 17" so power is going down the same rubber size as before  :084:

Vibrations more than before? The new bars setup should be better than the reindeer antler bars it had before. Maybe its the on/off road tires it now has. Still he made it seem like it was a 1980s thumper :084:

Also kept talking about the height but seat height is only 1"/2.5cm taller. Makes it sound like its an AfricaTwin Adventure Sport height :084:

Other things in the video that annoyed me. I'm call d. whistle's review pure BS. Does not own a previous model, going off his last test drive  :182:
Only thing I can agree is the display. I've ask before and owners said its fine but every video looks reflective. Could be because cameras don't adjust/focus like the human eyes.)

I suggest people NOT WATCH IT, it was a waste of time. If you looking a vlog review, search for Mr. Fish CB500x reviews



ThirtyOne,
He did come to a stop on 3rd gear (who does that  :087:) but does downshift to 1st before the light turns green.
On the next traffic light, where he missed the gear it was going from 2nd gear to 3rd gear.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 10, 2019, 05:15:53 AM
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
Isn't it the same shifter and the exactly same gearing (internals & sprockets) as the -2018? From everything I read it is the same other than the geardog and slipper clutch so what the heck is he complaining about being geared too low. The rear tire is also still a 17" so power is going down the same rubber size as before  :084:

Vibrations more than before? The new bars setup should be better than the reindeer antler bars it had before. Maybe its the on/off road tires it now has. Still he made it seem like it was a 1980s thumper :084:

Also kept talking about the height but seat height is only 1"/2.5cm taller. Makes it sound like its an AfricaTwin Adventure Sport height :084:

Other things in the video that annoyed me. I'm call d. whistle's review pure BS. Does not own a previous model, going off his last test drive  :182:
Only thing I can agree is the display. I've ask before and owners said its fine but every video looks reflective. Could be because cameras don't adjust/focus like the human eyes.)

I suggest people NOT WATCH IT, it was a waste of time. If you looking a vlog review, search for Mr. Fish CB500x reviews



ThirtyOne,
He did come to a stop on 3rd gear (who does that  :087:) but does downshift to 1st before the light turns green.
On the next traffic light, where he missed the gear it was going from 2nd gear to 3rd gear.

19:31 he was in 1st a few seconds before and there is a cut in the video. He definitely starts from 3rd at that point. I've slipped my clutch from a 2nd gear almost dead stop. Not sure if it'll pull from 3rd from a full on dig.

No idea if there were any transmission gearing changes on the 2019 but I'm sure someone here with more knowledge will chime in soon enough.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 10, 2019, 06:25:00 AM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
19:31 he was in 1st a few seconds before and there is a cut in the video. He definitely starts from 3rd at that point. I've slipped my clutch from a 2nd gear almost dead stop. Not sure if it'll pull from 3rd from a full on dig.

No idea if there were any transmission gearing changes on the 2019 but I'm sure someone here with more knowledge will chime in soon enough.

I see it now. I did not make it that far when I watched it. I thought you were talking about the 09:30second mark.
I have to say his mic setup is great. Captures almost only his voice, no exhaust noise but looking at the display it was done at no more than 3000-3500rpm on 3rd gear from a dead stop
Impressive or Confusing depending how you look at it.

Someone do chime in about the gearing

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lattugo on May 10, 2019, 06:43:17 AM
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
Someone do chime in about the gearing

Perhaps it has something to do with the new torque settings, more than the gearing itself? Just trying to guess.

I am curious to ride one too and compare it to mine, but it is not easy to get a test drive here where I am...
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Oyabun on May 10, 2019, 06:49:10 AM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne lolink=topic=7878.msg83656#msg83656 date=1557461753
No idea if there were any transmission gearing changes on the 2019 but I'm sure someone here with more knowledge will chime in soon enough.
The gear ratios are unchanged. Redesigned parts in the gearbox are the gear selector dogs, the shaft going to the clutch -which has changed due the different splines for the slipper clutch, and gear wheels also have different PN due the redesigned engagement mechanism - claimed to use design comin from the big blade. But gear ratios (both internal and external) are exactly the same as before.

The new power delivery is better than before, more torque and power coming earlier, but the power curve goes flat topping at 35kw.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: AJC500 on May 10, 2019, 09:53:14 AM
It's very hard to improve on perfection (  :007: ), but I know the 2019 bike will be a cracker - maybe he just liked the old one so much he didn't want to like the new one, or the previous model he rode had a few miles on the clock and so vibrated a bit less that a brand new 2019, or maybe the old bars reduced the vibration compared to the more rigid new 'straight' ones..... and at about an inch higher, who'll really notice that?!!

Either way, I'd always take video and magazine reviews with a pinch of salt, and just view them for entertainment value...although I must admit, I didn't bother watching all of this one, or most of the others,  anyway.  :005:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Rocker66 on May 10, 2019, 09:55:53 AM
My 2019 model is my third CB500X and I certainly find it an improvement over the previous two.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Lattugo on May 10, 2019, 10:55:24 AM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
maybe he just liked the old one so much he didn't want to like the new one

Same feeling I had...
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 10, 2019, 01:15:19 PM
*Originally Posted by Oyabun [+]
The gear ratios are unchanged. Redesigned parts in the gearbox are the gear selector dogs, the shaft going to the clutch -which has changed due the different splines for the slipper clutch, and gear wheels also have different PN due the redesigned engagement mechanism - claimed to use design comin from the big blade. But gear ratios (both internal and external) are exactly the same as before.

The new power delivery is better than before, more torque and power coming earlier, but the power curve goes flat topping at 35kw.

I assumed so, but wasn't certain. Thanks for verifying.

*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
It's very hard to improve on perfection (  :007: ), but I know the 2019 bike will be a cracker - maybe he just liked the old one so much he didn't want to like the new one, or the previous model he rode had a few miles on the clock and so vibrated a bit less that a brand new 2019, or maybe the old bars reduced the vibration compared to the more rigid new 'straight' ones..... and at about an inch higher, who'll really notice that?!!

Either way, I'd always take video and magazine reviews with a pinch of salt, and just view them for entertainment value...although I must admit, I didn't bother watching all of this one, or most of the others,  anyway.  :005:


Same feeling. He caught my attention when he wasn't singing the praise as pretty much every reviewer does of every single bike they test. I've been watching some 790 Adv reviews and it's been nothing but sweet songs. They all sound like commercials.

This review was different, for once. Even if it's baloney.  :745:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on May 10, 2019, 03:27:17 PM
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
Isn't it the same shifter and the exactly same gearing (internals & sprockets) as the -2018? From everything I read it is the same other than the geardog and slipper clutch so what the heck is he complaining about being geared too low. The rear tire is also still a 17" so power is going down the same rubber size as before  :084:

Vibrations more than before? The new bars setup should be better than the reindeer antler bars it had before. Maybe its the on/off road tires it now has. Still he made it seem like it was a 1980s thumper :084:

Also kept talking about the height but seat height is only 1"/2.5cm taller. Makes it sound like its an AfricaTwin Adventure Sport height :084:

Other things in the video that annoyed me. I'm call d. whistle's review pure BS. Does not own a previous model, going off his last test drive  :182:
Only thing I can agree is the display. I've ask before and owners said its fine but every video looks reflective. Could be because cameras don't adjust/focus like the human eyes.)

I suggest people NOT WATCH IT, it was a waste of time. If you looking a vlog review, search for Mr. Fish CB500x reviews



ThirtyOne,
He did come to a stop on 3rd gear (who does that  :087:) but does downshift to 1st before the light turns green.
On the next traffic light, where he missed the gear it was going from 2nd gear to 3rd gear.
Can't see how you can call his review B/S and saying don't watch it- it's his opinion and he's riding the bike after riding a 2018-the bike is not going to be perfect for everyone-lets hear your opinion on the bike -oh wait you never rode one no body in the USA has so you can't have an opinion yet-so how about we wait trashing reviews untill we-in the USA- get your hands on it
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 10, 2019, 03:55:49 PM
.decent review. I didn't think he panned the bike...near the end he even says the bike "on it's own " is a great bike. but it pales when compared to the older CB's......maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong.Maybe he's suffering from a memory bias and is focusing on things he overlooked on the 2013-2017 bikes....

after watching all the reviews I can find on the web about bikes I might have wanted to buy, at the end of the day, I think they are all pretty much subjective. it's nice to actually see someone actually discuss the shortcomings.

it hasn't changed may mind... I know the cb 500x will fulfill my needs a price I can afford. 
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on May 10, 2019, 06:04:18 PM
fwiw. I tend to agree with Kickertwo - I watched that video yesterday and kept thinking - what are this guy's credentials? - he tries to come across as a 'professional' reviewer (I presume he has a channel full of bike 'tests'), but he was factually incorrect on a number of occasions, implying he has limited journalistic skills and engineering understanding...

This is the problem with YouTube (and social media in general) of course - when you can 'self publish' anyone can say anything these days, and depending on their reach [ audience/followers] some people will take your personal opinions and/or mis-information as some sort of gospel... don't get me started on the NC 700/half-a-Jazz-engine debacle again please!

I wouldn't go as far as say do 'not watch it' - by all means watch it, but as an example of how you need to do a little more research before publishing on the world-wide-web, else you look like a bit of an arse ;o)

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: japes1275 on May 10, 2019, 06:49:09 PM
When I watched it all I was thinking was that his main complaints were about things that hadn't changed from the old model! He also seemed very much enamoured by the indicators which are just bits that stick out and light up occasionally to me.

My only concern after watching it was the screen, I'll be very disappointed if it's as bad for glare/reflecting as he makes out. I was also concerned about how wide he said it felt - until I remembered that I'd sat on one in Bob Minnions and didn't think it was any different - the Africa Twin I sat on next definitely felt bigger!!

I like the reviews by 'The Missenden Flyer', much more professional and trustworthy. I don't think he's reviewed the X though.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on May 10, 2019, 07:09:05 PM
Yes, it's a common trait on the internet for someone to post a personal opinion as if it's some sort of fact - when unless they can quantify their statement with some actual facts or specifications to back up their conclusion, all it ever can be is one person's subjective opinion...

This is why I tend to despair at the 'what oil/tyres/screen/clothes' questions/threads you get - particularly on Facebook for example - ask a billion people what they like and you're going to get dozens if not hundreds of different suggestions, all based on what suited that individual - not necessarily what is going to suit YOU, unless your circumstances are essentially exactly the same.

Sure it might help you draw up a short list - but equally, you might also end up passing over something that otherwise would have been perfect for you, because someone else didn't get along with it very well?

Fortunately most bikes are 'tailorable' to a degree (screen, lever, foot-control location etc.), and the aftermarket tends to provide for popular bikes pretty rapidly these days, particularly in the Adventure segment.

I always say that ultimately no manufacturer is going to release a 'bad' bike for sale these days... of course some models maybe more appropriate than others for what you want to do, but ultimately the best thing to do is test one for yourself and see if it works (or can be made to work) for you.

Jx
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on May 10, 2019, 07:34:48 PM
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 10, 2019, 07:41:30 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]

https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,7878.msg83642.html#msg83642

Haha, yeah this got posted a few pages ago. We've been discussing this glowing piece of journalism.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on May 10, 2019, 07:55:35 PM
Apologies, I'm subbed to the guy but only just got a notification for some reason.

I do trust his opinions though, he absolutely loved the 2016/17 model (which I also thought was superb).

Bit concerning as I was considering the new 500X at some point.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: JMo on May 10, 2019, 08:07:37 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Apologies, I'm subbed to the guy but only just got a notification for some reason.

I do trust his opinions though, he absolutely loved the 2016/17 model (which I also thought was superb).

Bit concerning as I was considering the new 500X at some point.

Again, this was only one guys opinion, on how the bike suited him... plenty of people have ridden the new 2019 bike and absolutely loved it.

Ride one, make your own mind up.

Jx

ps. I agree it appeared the dash screen suffered from some bad reflections at certain [sun] angles, but this is by no means unique to this bike - plenty of other dash panels suffer that same condition too.

One consideration is to fit a screen protector film to it (like you might on a GPS screen), that ought to put a sufficiently matt sheen on it to cut refections.

As for his other critiques, those can all be corrected with either the read of the spec-sheet/handbook and/or a spanner.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 10, 2019, 08:11:06 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Apologies, I'm subbed to the guy but only just got a notification for some reason.

I do trust his opinions though, he absolutely loved the 2016/17 model (which I also thought was superb).

Bit concerning as I was considering the new 500X at some point.

Considering you've ridden the older bike, I'd say take the 19 out and let us know what you think.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Applecorp on May 10, 2019, 08:16:42 PM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Considering you've ridden the older bike, I'd say take the 19 out and let us know what you think.

I will pop up to my Honda dealer at some point, see if they have a demo bike.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: PiotrL on May 10, 2019, 09:57:06 PM
There is no harm to listen to somebody else's opinion, and to be honest I think I was waiting to see somebody not agreeing with the masses just to offset common hymns of glory, I suppose :) The thing that caught my attention most were complaints about vibrations. That one thing alone is why I want to get rid of my Transalp. I am looking for a smooth bike, will appreciate if people could comment on that - on 2019 model vibrations, that is.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: racer on May 10, 2019, 10:20:54 PM
I was a little surprised that Whistle Dick said the older CB500X was his favorite bike, yet he doens't own one.  Never heard of the guy before so maybe he's an okay fella.  It was good to hear his opinions.   Racer
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: davea on May 11, 2019, 06:45:50 AM
I have a 19, the only bit of vibration I get is around 5000 revs, but its so minimal you can hardly notice it,  at the end of the day its a machine built to a price. its a very good machine for the price though.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Moreorles on May 11, 2019, 10:43:53 AM
*Originally Posted by davea [+]
I have a 19, the only bit of vibration I get is around 5000 revs, but its so minimal you can hardly notice it,  at the end of the day its a machine built to a price. its a very good machine for the price though.

Seconded. Windscreen turbulence is the only issue I notice, but that's all relative to my dimensions
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: racer on May 11, 2019, 02:54:30 PM
Sometimes I wonder about all the discussions about wind turbulance and vibration.  It's a motorcycle not an Easyboy! 
Racer
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 11, 2019, 03:05:27 PM
*Originally Posted by racer [+]
Sometimes I wonder about all the discussions about wind turbulance and vibration.  It's a motorcycle not an Easyboy! 
Racer

Turbulence is an issue that many bikes with windscreens face, sometimes one being much worse than the other. I can confirm this, as I've gone through a number of screens on my bike and dialed it out. Previously there was enough to shake my helmet and blur my vision above 50 mph. So yeah, it's something that needs to be addressed for some riders.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 11, 2019, 03:50:04 PM
Soooo, anyone in North America got their 2019 yet?

I was really hoping to get it this weekend but the dealer says next week for sure.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: motorboy on May 11, 2019, 06:04:14 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
Soooo, anyone in North America got their 2019 yet?

I was really hoping to get it this weekend but the dealer says next week for sure.
It looks like we will have to wait 2-4 weeks more- my dealer will call as soon as it comes in
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Louis on May 11, 2019, 09:23:48 PM
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/DSC04564.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/DSC04542.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/DSC04561.jpg)
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Rider on May 12, 2019, 07:35:50 PM
In comparison with KTM 790 Adventure (he is the owner of KTM 790 Adventure)! Test was on the highway and on the winding local road. A interesting question and answer was given on 14:37!!! He also said his opinion on vibration.


Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 12, 2019, 09:49:30 PM
Good review from a 2018 owner, not overselling
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 13, 2019, 03:46:58 AM
anybody fit any older upper engine/tank bars to their 2019 yet? if so what brand? was it a good fit?

 
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 14, 2019, 04:11:01 AM
For the North Americans still waiting on the 2019 CB500X
POV of the CB500X. No Talk ONLY Parallel Twin Sound
:306:

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: racer on May 14, 2019, 02:27:18 PM
What's POV?   :027:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ewryly on May 14, 2019, 02:31:09 PM
*Originally Posted by racer [+]
What's POV?   :027:

I assume it is a point of view video shot from the rider's perspective.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 14, 2019, 04:56:01 PM
Accessories catalogue for the 2019 X are live on Honda Canada website.


still waiting for the "come pick up your ride" phone-call from the dealer  :003:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on May 15, 2019, 02:36:29 AM
*Originally Posted by racer [+]
What's POV?   :027:


Pi$$ed off vermin.  :047:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 15, 2019, 10:37:18 PM
still no bike!!!!!!!! :157: :157: :157:
Today was the last day of the promised delivery window the dealer gave me! :230: :230: :230: :230:

he said he was still expecting it to be here in time for the weekend. getting antsy.

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 16, 2019, 02:39:28 AM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
still no bike!!!!!!!! :157: :157: :157:
Today was the last day of the promised delivery window the dealer gave me! :230: :230: :230: :230:

he said he was still expecting it to be here in time for the weekend. getting antsy.

Hopefully it'll be there before the weekend as promised. My bike got tied up in shipping and customs for a while. I know exactly how you're feeling.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 17, 2019, 11:30:37 PM
Still no motorcycle!!!!
 :230: :230: :230:

 :232:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Flash88 on May 18, 2019, 02:19:12 AM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
Still no motorcycle!!!!
 :230: :230: :230:

 :232:
FYI, I just picked mine up today.  :046:
Yours shouldn't be far behind.  Apparently mine was on the truck when I called on the 9th, but the dealer didn't know exactly where the truck was.

I'm hoping everyone's wait is over soon!   :821:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: rainrider bc on May 18, 2019, 03:36:49 AM
Hi Everyone, i think the wait should be over soon. Mine is packed and ready to be shipped to Vancouver from the warehouse in Edmonton. Will have it sometime next week.    Cheers
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 18, 2019, 03:56:27 AM
*Originally Posted by rainrider bc [+]
Hi Everyone, i think the wait should be over soon. Mine is packed and ready to be shipped to Vancouver from the warehouse in Edmonton. Will have it sometime next week.    Cheers

CONGRATS  :821: Looks like you will be the first North American to get your hands on the 2019

Weird that it's at Edmonton. Are motorcycles air-shipped in instead of being sea-shipped ??
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: rainrider bc on May 18, 2019, 04:14:09 AM
Ah, the wonderful world of shipping. I think this is how it works. The bikes arrive in Vancouver on a container ship, container is then put on a train and sent to Edmonton. Containers are then sorted at warehouse and sent via truck or rail to various regions in Canada. Sounds a little crazy however i understand that its more cost efficient to do everything from a central location. Edmonton would be western Canada terminal, i suspect there would be one in eastern Canada as well.
Cheers
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 18, 2019, 04:50:54 AM
*Originally Posted by rainrider bc [+]
Ah, the wonderful world of shipping. I think this is how it works. The bikes arrive in Vancouver on a container ship, container is then put on a train and sent to Edmonton. Containers are then sorted at warehouse and sent via truck or rail to various regions in Canada. Sounds a little crazy however i understand that its more cost efficient to do everything from a central location. Edmonton would be western Canada terminal, i suspect there would be one in eastern Canada as well.
Cheers

Got it. Well no more customs check and 1200km from warehouse to your location. Crossing my fingers for you.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 18, 2019, 04:54:30 AM
To Stir The Pot. I found an older video on when the CB500X arrived in AMERICA.

Looks like sometime in March. Video was posted April 5th at a Chilean Dealer prepped and ready for sale!


In a recent video, a motorcycle rental company (also in Chile) have the 2019s for rent

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: rainrider bc on May 18, 2019, 05:19:55 AM
Yup in a warehouse 1200 km away. I offered to go there and ride it back but apparently that's not possible Lol !!  :152: Only takes a couple of days by transport truck so not so bad. Been a long wait though, ordered it in January
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: kickertwo on May 18, 2019, 06:21:50 AM
*Originally Posted by Flash88 [+]
FYI, I just picked mine up today.  :046:
Yours shouldn't be far behind.  Apparently mine was on the truck when I called on the 9th, but the dealer didn't know exactly where the truck was.
I'm hoping everyone's wait is over soon!   :821:

EDIT: WOW, I can't believe I missed your post.
SUPER CONGRATS  :821:  for being the 1st known North American to get the 2019 CB500X!!!
Post pictures ASAP. Show our European fellow riders that we also have great backgrounds for the CB500X


*Originally Posted by rainrider bc [+]
Yup in a warehouse 1200 km away. I offered to go there and ride it back but apparently that's not possible Lol !!  :152: Only takes a couple of days by transport truck so not so bad. Been a long wait though, ordered it in January

That would have been great trip... and you would have taken care of the break in period

Funny I missed the post right above your 1st post by "Flash88"
Looks like moto #1 and #2 went to the East & West Coasts of Canada
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: rainrider bc on May 18, 2019, 08:21:32 AM
Yes pretty awesome  :046: Hopefully you guys and girls will be getting yours soon. Let the farkling begin. Will post pics.
Cheers Bruce
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 22, 2019, 11:21:12 PM
I just got stalled out till mid June.
Suddenly my bike that was “on the truck” is no longer anywhere. :080:

If somebody in Canada is actually riding one.... you and your dealer stole my order jerks!!!!


I hope you die in a fiery crash!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 23, 2019, 04:42:12 AM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
I just got stalled out till mid June.
Suddenly my bike that was “on the truck” is no longer anywhere. :080:

If somebody in Canada is actually riding one.... you and your dealer stole my order jerks!!!!


redacted.  that joke seemed to aggressive and not sarcastic enough. sorry.


ride safe brothers and sisters.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 23, 2019, 04:54:34 AM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
I just got stalled out till mid June.
Suddenly my bike that was “on the truck” is no longer anywhere. :080:

If somebody in Canada is actually riding one.... you and your dealer stole my order jerks!!!!


I hope you die in a fiery crash!

Well that sucks. In June you'll be a month away from winter!  :190: :190: :190:

 :008: :008:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 23, 2019, 04:47:49 PM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Well that sucks. In June you'll be a month away from winter!  :190: :190: :190:

 :008: :008:

Don't joke like that. :110: :110: :110: Last year it was winter around here by mid Oct! I've never seen snow that early before!

Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 23, 2019, 07:18:46 PM
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
Don't joke like that. :110: :110: :110: Last year it was winter around here by mid Oct! I've never seen snow that early before!

Ha! Sorry, not trying to jinx it. I'll sacrifice a goat to the Honda gods.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 23, 2019, 09:23:35 PM
*Originally Posted by ThirtyOne [+]
Ha! Sorry, not trying to jinx it. I'll sacrifice a goat to the Honda gods.

No goats!

I read Soichiro san was a big fan of eels. :015:
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 23, 2019, 10:49:09 PM
 
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
No goats!

I read Soichiro san was a big fan of eels. :015:

 :008:

I'll see what I can do. No promises.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: rainrider bc on May 24, 2019, 02:41:07 PM
success  :082: picked up my 500x yesterday afternoon. My dealer is awesome  :152: Will post some pics. as soon as i learn how ( I'm new to this forum )
Cheers
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ewryly on May 24, 2019, 02:45:04 PM
*Originally Posted by rainrider bc [+]
success  :082: picked up my 500x yesterday afternoon. My dealer is awesome  :152: Will post some pics. as soon as i learn how ( I'm new to this forum )
Cheers

Congratulations!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 24, 2019, 02:52:54 PM
*Originally Posted by rainrider bc [+]
success  :082: picked up my 500x yesterday afternoon. My dealer is awesome  :152: Will post some pics. as soon as i learn how ( I'm new to this forum )
Cheers

Careful, skidooboy wants blood.  :017:


Congrats on the bike!
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: skidooboy on May 24, 2019, 05:12:57 PM
congrats.

I'm still waiting...but they updated my shipping date so now i'm looking at the first week of June. cautiously optimistic.


Does anyone in Canada have a red one yet?
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: daHIPPO on May 24, 2019, 10:31:45 PM
Has anyone in NA taken delivery of an ABS model? Had a chance to pick up the non abs 2019 CB500x in Texas but as a new rider I would feel better having ABS.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: racer on May 25, 2019, 12:17:11 AM
Are you sure it was a 2019 model?  No reports of any 2019 cb500x's being delivered yet.  What color was it?


racer
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: rainrider bc on May 25, 2019, 05:21:42 AM
Thanks for the congrats everyone. Went for a short ride yesterday, could tell right away that this was the right move for me.  :082: Going for a long ride Sunday to give it a good workout. Hope you all get your rides soon
Cheers
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: EscCtrl on May 25, 2019, 02:42:35 PM
*Originally Posted by daHIPPO [+]
Has anyone in NA taken delivery of an ABS model? Had a chance to pick up the non abs 2019 CB500x in Texas but as a new rider I would feel better having ABS.

Be very careful. I've seen underhanded dealers push older bikes as brand new this year's model on people they think don't know how to check manufacture dates.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: racer on May 25, 2019, 03:46:47 PM
It's either that or he's just jacking with us to get us upset.  Racer
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on May 25, 2019, 04:15:27 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
Be very careful. I've seen underhanded dealers push older bikes as brand new this year's model on people they think don't know how to check manufacture dates.

Could be this.

On the other hand, some dealerships will title a bike the year they sell it (or did it previously and don't anymore.) I bought a last model year round-eye Speed Triple. The bike was released as a 2010 SE model and that's what is says on the frame, but when I bought the bike from the original owner, the title had it marked as a 2011. The 2011 Speed Triples were vastly different with a redesigned frame, headlights, etc. I was suspicious and did some research before buying and sure enough, it's not uncommon for a dealer to have a model sitting on the floor for a year or two and then when it sells they title it for the current year.

Now, if they're telling you that it is in fact a 2019, then that's not right.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: racer on May 25, 2019, 08:01:20 PM
Hey, Honda, since you're releasing the new CB500x so late in the year, why not just go ahead and call them 2020 models.  Racer
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: PiotrL on May 25, 2019, 10:23:11 PM
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
About that review again... So he was complaining about buzz in the foot pegs. He was complaining so much about it that I though that I have to test ride one before buying it, just in case. So I had back to back test rides of a new model yesterday and 2017 one today. 2019 demo bike had some 1100km on the clock, 2017 had 30k++ . I have to admit that new one had noticeably more vibrations in the foot pegs, actually much more than 2017 one. I don't know if the new was not relay broke in yet or if it was just specific to this particular motorcycle, but it was so much more that it was a deal breaker for me... So giving a credit where credit is due, this guy has saved me money and frustration.

I suppose that it's pretty clear that trying to argue that 2019 model is vibrating more than previous based on a single experiment (or two experiments actually?) would be ridiculous, but I'd say that one should have a test ride before making a purchase decision. I'm glad that I did. I'm not sure why Warro and Sven Olsen are not experiencing similar condition. I suppose that everybody has a different threshold of acceptance of annoyances. We do have a different gear, riding style and particular model of a machine, it all makes a difference.

Anyway, just to share few more thoughts from both rides:

Regards,
Piotr.
Title: Re: 2019 CB500X
Post by: Jonathan on May 25, 2019, 10:56:24 PM
*Originally Posted by PiotrL [+]
About that review again... So he was complaining about buzz in the foot pegs. He was complaining so much about it that I though that I have to test ride one before buying it, just in case. So I had back to back test rides of a new model yesterday and 2017 one today. 2019 demo bike had some 1100km on the clock, 2017 had 30k++ . I have to admit that new one had noticeably more vibrations in the foot pegs, actually much more than 2017 one. I don't know if the new was not relay broke in yet or if it was just specific to this particular motorcycle, but it was so much more that it was a deal breaker for me... So giving a credit where credit is due, this guy has saved me money and frustration.

I suppose that it's pretty clear that trying to argue that 2019 model is vibrating more that previous based on a single experiment (or two experiments actually?) would be ridiculous, but I'd say that one should have a test ride before making a purchase decision. I'm glad that I did. I'm not sure why Warro and Sven Olsen are not experiencing similar condition. I suppose that everybody has a different threshold of acceptance of annoyances. We do have a different gear, riding style and particular model of a machine, it all makes a difference.

Anyway, just to share few more thoughts from both rides:
  • 2017 instrument panel is not that bad, it's just different. I did not feel that I'd miss much by having it rather than 2019 one, except gear indicator of course
  • There is a noticeable loss of power when compared to my XL700 Transalp, but for whatever reason I did not seam to care: it was enough for me anyway
  • Riding position was better on 2019 one for me. I'm 190cm with 87cm inseam. I did not really fit on 2017 one too well. I don't think I'd be comfortable on longer trips on it
  • Vibrations on the handle bar and tank were noticeable in both models above 4500-5000 rpm, but perfectly acceptable. It's the foot pegs where the difference was. Transalp also vibrates on the foot pegs but I can accept that: it's the Transalp's handle bar vibrations @4000-5000 rpm that I cannot stand...
  • cb500x is only some 30kg lighter than Transalp but I was suprised how big of a different it made it terms of handling the bike. For example slow speed maneuvering was so much easier on CB

Regards,
Piotr.

I miss the torque compared to my Transalp 600....top speed isn't that different, but like you say, the X feels much lighter. I read that Honda specced an anti-vibration top yoke and taper bars on the '19 (presumably to further minimize vibration, so maybe this became apparent when they were revising it. the peg vibration could be just an individual build issue...some do, some don't?