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Title: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on December 23, 2018, 05:50:19 AM
Found this on the web this evening. Guy’s X takes a beating for sure.

Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Lattugo on December 23, 2018, 10:48:46 AM
Gosh... I am in pain for that bike.
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: hilldweller on December 23, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
Wrong bike error.

Quite an expensive bit of sport - where did his phone go ?
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Perfictsib on December 23, 2018, 12:55:26 PM
I had to stop watching felt sorry for the bike
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Or on December 23, 2018, 02:27:26 PM
It was too painful to witness this video..
What is he doing to that poor bike  :002:

Sure, It's an Half-rica twin but that is too much...
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on December 23, 2018, 02:34:22 PM
Perhaps I should have added a “graphic content” warning in the original post.  :008:

Agreed, it’s a little sad to watch the bike being dragged through the muck and mud.
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: CaptCapsize on December 23, 2018, 03:23:58 PM
Great video with good info.  Glad the rider is taking that kind of course.  I could sure use one. 
The bike is just a tool so I don't feet sorry for it.

Since the bike had a Rally Raid bash plate I assume it has Level 2 suspension.  I would not want to try that with the stock suspension.  It looks like that training would be more fun on my WR450F than my CB-X. 

Note to self:  Get stronger bars and better suspension than stock before off road riding on the CB-X.
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on December 23, 2018, 04:15:08 PM
Correct. Bike had a L2 kit if I remember correctly. Also itching to get to some trainings as well. I don’t have much dirt skills.
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Dukie on December 23, 2018, 04:52:00 PM
Nice to see real world video.
Respect
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Irishrover on December 23, 2018, 06:48:40 PM
That was fun.  :008:
Those bars are like cheese. I think wrong bike for those obstacles, hence the reason why off road riding schools don't use CB500X's.
That log obstacle was a no go from the start, most of us couldn't even do that with a mountain bike.
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on December 23, 2018, 07:48:42 PM
I agree with you there. I had the same reaction to the log obstacle.  :112:
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: slowrider on December 23, 2018, 08:36:08 PM

What great fun.   Reminded me of my trip to Portugal earlier in the year when I kept dropping the bike in the mud.   Broke/Bruised a rib and could not sleep flat in the bed for 2 weeks, so much pain.  Buying a chest protector for my trip to the Spanish and  Moroccan trails next year as I don't want to go through that again.

You should be pleased to know that the bike falls better than I do.   Mind you, I bet the person in the video wishes they had upgraded to the Renthal Fat Bars.

Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Jonathan on December 23, 2018, 09:44:46 PM
I'm really struggling to understand why a supposedly professional off road training organization wouldn't insist that he removes his Touring screen before attempting the course, or that the owner wouldn't have thought to do so...he's taken the mirrors off  :027:


and then after he's said I've got to ride this back for work, they proceed to bend his bars back and joke about it. I wouldn't want that on my conscience....
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Jonathan on December 23, 2018, 09:56:51 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
Wrong bike error.

Quite an expensive bit of sport - where did his phone go ?

There's no reason the obstacles couldn't have been completed successfully on an X (with decent tyres and enough ground clearance) by a much more skilled rider....

Aside from that, I didn't see much input from the instructors, if that's what they were. I've done shed loads of MTB training with youngsters professionally and Rule number 1 is assess their basic skills and competence and build confidence (and complexity) slowly, in line with their abilities. Seems to me they've just staked out a course and let him fail at considerable risk and expense. Having said that, we didn't get to see any preliminary assessment...Fair play to the guy for having a go, though.
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: UnmzldOx on December 24, 2018, 02:17:42 AM
I felt the same frustration watching Ewan McGregor in the first Long Way. Dirt skills might best be learned on a light dirt bike. That takes time enough. I can't imagine getting the hang of it from scratch on a 600 lb GS or even the X. Still, I'd like to try that course with some instruction. My self taught dirt skills from 40 years ago might be all wrong or rusted away. I can still ride in my head, though.
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Herman on December 24, 2018, 10:13:16 AM
I dont think they were instructors to be fair it looked like a turn up and have a go after signing a disclaimer type of affair. Good on him for having a go I guess it comes down to how much you have invested in the bike or are willing to kill. I have done similar but on enduro courses on my S10 and they crash acceptably well.....especially on hill climbs when forgetting to turn off the traction control. (https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:farm5.staticflickr.com/4174/34578432365_80d126afd6_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/UFzvfn)DSC00946 (https://flic.kr/p/UFzvfn) by herman munster (https://www.flickr.com/photos/147203755@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on December 24, 2018, 01:50:27 PM
*Originally Posted by UnmzldOx [+]
I felt the same frustration watching Ewan McGregor in the first Long Way. Dirt skills might best be learned on a light dirt bike. That takes time enough. I can't imagine getting the hang of it from scratch on a 600 lb GS or even the X. Still, I'd like to try that course with some instruction. My self taught dirt skills from 40 years ago might be all wrong or rusted away. I can still ride in my head, though.

A few years ago I looked into off road riding classes and there are a few in the northeast that focus on ADV (big fat motorcycle) training. I would be willing to bring my X for such a course. Gotta learn somehow!   :001:
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Jonathan on December 24, 2018, 02:56:07 PM
*Originally Posted by Herman [+]
I dont think they were instructors to be fair it looked like a turn up and have a go after signing a disclaimer type of affair. Good on him for having a go I guess it comes down to how much you have invested in the bike or are willing to kill....

I think you're right....but who ever reads the small print? :008: Far better renting some old Serrows out for dirt newbies, but I guess this is more involved in terms of organization (and liability). Think I'm just hyper-vigilant nowadays, from working with kids...and they tend to bounce better than adults when they fall off
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: BikerBill on January 12, 2019, 04:56:15 PM
Yep, he has questionable sanity...or a a very big bank balance....

But, a less extreme version of this would be useful for those who have never taken their bike off road before....

Anyone know a farmer with a field we could borrow, could be fun!
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: ThirtyOne on January 12, 2019, 05:32:33 PM
*Originally Posted by BikerBill [+]
Yep, he has questionable sanity...or a a very big bank balance....

But, a less extreme version of this would be useful for those who have never taken their bike off road before....

Anyone know a farmer with a field we could borrow, could be fun!

There are a few good off-road schools over there in the UK, aren't there?
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Herman on January 12, 2019, 10:49:16 PM
https://www.adventurebikerider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47919 There you are, I will be there with several like minded folks that should know better. Always a good friendly event.
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Akceller8 on April 29, 2019, 11:30:56 AM
*Originally Posted by Herman [+]
https://www.adventurebikerider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=147&t=47919 There you are, I will be there with several like minded folks that should know better. Always a good friendly event.

I'll be there with my new (to me) bike that came with RR gold wheels and i just added the RR Level 1 suspension upgrade, hoping to have the RR engine guard before the ABR Festival.

That guy had the RR stage 2 suspension (spotted the remote damping reservoir) and the engine guard, but i bet he wished he'd got the Renthal bars too  :138: , maybe i'll add them to my wishlist  :084:
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Herman on April 29, 2019, 06:13:58 PM
Well I sold my original bars to a chap with a bent set and he just dropped it off the stand  :232:
Title: Re: Video: Off-Road training on a 500X
Post by: Samuttodd on May 02, 2019, 07:24:21 AM
Damn,

That looks like about as much fun as havng surgery.    Sometimes a guy is just better off avoiding obstacles than going over them.

I'll have to remember to watch that windscreen on the whoop dees.  That thing could get you right in the face if your visor was open.