Honda CB500X

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Title: Windshield Options
Post by: tommybarrettjr on July 04, 2013, 06:26:07 PM
I am interested in the CB500X, and like many people will want a little more wind protection without destroying the looks or style of the bike. I would like to start this thread so people can discuss windshield options and which ones they like.  I am not an aeronautical engineer but these are some things I have learned and observed.

Just putting a large windshield out front will not necessarily cause a nice smooth ride.  The larger the windshield the more air you deflect, which causes large amounts of air at different speeds, and air pressure and air speed are inversely related, and this difference of air pressure causes that annoying buffeting.  Most windshield manufactures now try to let a certain amount of air under the windshield to decrease the air pressure differences to reduce buffeting. In the pictures it appears the CB500X windshield lets air underneath it where it meets the fairing, which should be a good thing. I had a 2006 Goldwing with the vent in the windshield, I had read and soon verified that the air was smoother when the vent was left partially open.

I had a Suzuki V strom 650 with the "madstad" adjustable bracket which allows adjustment of both windshield height and angle, it was a very popular item for V strom owners and I believe "Madstad" would design a bracket for the CB500X. When you angled the windshield back you controlled how much air was allowed underneath the windshield and the buffeting was greatly reduced. http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.750/.f (http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.750/.f)

I have looked at the "wunderlich america" wind deflector extension on line and it is an interesting way to add a laminar lip to an existing windshield like the stock or touring windshield from Honda. http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/motorcycle//8110024-025.html (http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/motorcycle//8110024-025.html)

Tell us what windshields you like and dislike on your CB500X so we can all learn from one another. Pictures and web site links would also be nice.

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: piston broke on July 05, 2013, 03:41:45 PM
....i just couldn't imagine wanting to change the standard windscreen....the after market ones look pants, imho...

if wind is a prob- use the car !
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Bigboy61 on July 06, 2013, 08:16:07 AM
I like with the Madstad windshield design on the various models that they make them for.   Give Madstad time to come up with a bracket system and a light greyed windshield for the 500X bike.

I know that I will buy one. They work and they are not too intrusive to riding.

If all you are doing is city commuting then a larger windshield is not necessary. However, for Interstate routes that reach speeds up to 75-80MPH (135kph for the rest of the world), a larger windshield is necessary.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: tommybarrettjr on July 06, 2013, 06:19:24 PM
Bigboy61,

On Madstad's website, under FAQ(frequently asked questions), http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.17/.f, (http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.17/.f,) they state if you do not see your bike listed and are interested in the Madstad windshield to email or call them. 

It appears to me Madstad is trying to make an adapter for the individual model of motorcycle, then you use their standard Madstad infinitely adjustable bracket, then you choose a style/shape windshield(http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.888/.f (http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.888/.f)) from the their three choices for the standard bracket, and then you choose your size and tint windshield of that style/shape. 

I am thinking the Sport SD style/shape would look the best(http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.5624/.f (http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.5624/.f)), but the Adventure Style(http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.1289/.f (http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.7/category.1289/.f)) would also look good and may offer more coverage.

If you email or call them and get one, let us know what you get and what you think about it. Pictures would also be great.

Tommy

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: tizzy23 on July 08, 2013, 12:40:05 AM
Prior to getting my X I was sure I would need a bigger windshield than it comes with. Now that I have put a few hundred highway kilometers on it I honestly cant imagine needing anything other than the stock shield. At least in until it gets cold, that is yet for me to experience on this bike. But I am getting absolutely no buffeting or excessive wind like I used to get on my nighthawk with a larger shield. The only thing I might want to do with it is put a smoke film on the backside. For the record I am just shy of 6 ft tall and the windshield is on the high setting. I have as well, while testing the bike out, reached speeds faster than I will ever need to go again and the wind never even really came to mind.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Ski Days on July 11, 2013, 05:33:30 AM
At only a tank and some change down, I'm finding the stock screen to be just fine. I'm towering in at 5'7" so that helps.  I'm also coming from the world of track days where hitting 130 was routine and you had to have a double bubble.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: cdiamond on January 21, 2014, 02:54:00 AM
I agree with several others:  ...no need for a taller screen for city driving.  Stock windshield does a great job for me up to about 60mph.  Above that, and the wind noise is considerable.  I installed the Laminar Lip a few weeks ago, but it seems to have created more buffeting at my visor/eye level.  I would like to find a taller screen that throws the air just above my visor.  I just hate buying something to find out.  Lamina does offer a 30-day return, so that's why I gave it a try.  I like the looks of the calsci shield but hate to spend $200.00 to try it.  FYI, I'm 5'9" and probably slouch a little more on the seat than most folks my size.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Utilimuter on January 21, 2014, 04:01:11 AM
I'm 6'3" and frequently take my X on 700 mile round trip with average speed about 75mph. I get a ton of buffeting with the stock shield and a good amount with the honda tall shield. I recently ordered the Givi shield which is a little taller and considerably wider at the top for your shoulders. I'll post a review as soon as it's in.

Here's the tall Honda shield with stock for comparison:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt38/tcgetsbored/20130909_184924_zps97f31620.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CaptainCranky on January 21, 2014, 05:46:09 AM
Hi Tommy,

You really summed it up well in your initial post.
In agreement - (from my "for sale" item):


"I bought a powerbronze screen for A$155 and it doesn't suit me.
Although it greatly reduced the wind on my chest, I am 6'5" and a motovlogger (make movies from helmetcam) and the wind was buffetting right on my helmet, making the recording of my voice impossible.
After a couple of short trial rides I replaced the original screen,"

I am now really happy with the stock shield - maybe I would like it darker, but that's just looks.

IrishRover bought the same windshield as I did, and really likes it - notably he is 5'6" - so maybe the tall one works for shorter riders, and in colder climes...

Notably the Powerbronze in 3cm taller than the tall Honda one.

The adjustable mount a la V Strom would probably be a great way to use the taller screen and adjust the buffeting until it is much more bearable.

Shooting my sale in the foot maybe  :138: but if you're tall I would stick with the stock screen - at it's highest setting it sends a very clean air-flow past the shoulders and head.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: joncho on January 31, 2014, 08:13:44 PM
Utilimuter,

Have you received the Givi screen? if so, how does it perform for you?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Utilimuter on January 31, 2014, 08:38:28 PM
*Originally Posted by joncho [+]
Utilimuter,

Have you received the Givi screen? if so, how does it perform for you?

I haven't yet. They are on back order in the states about 5 more weeks. . .  :151:  As soon as it comes in, I'll install it and take it out for a review. I live right off of a highway with a 75mph speed limit.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: joncho on January 31, 2014, 09:01:38 PM
Perfect.
I will wait for the review.

Thank you very much
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Xaero on February 01, 2014, 01:56:37 AM
*Originally Posted by joncho [+]
Perfect.
I will wait for the review.

Thank you very much

I would like to know too!  I spoke with Twisted Throttle and they are about to get a shipment in of these.  However they were all on backorder.  Would be nice to see if anyone who back ordered one and is a taller rider would pipe in once they get it.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: joncho on February 01, 2014, 04:27:04 AM
Side note:

I kept trying to find a way to make the stock windshield work....and I did!

I installed a washer on each bottom mounting point. Raising the bottom of the windshield 1/4" and took the bike for a highway ride at 70Mph and the buffering/turbulence was pretty much gone!!!!

It was so quiet, I couldn't believe it. I am still planning on getting a taller screen.

I hope this helps other members too.

I attached pictures of the washer and part number
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Utilimuter on February 01, 2014, 05:24:39 AM
*Originally Posted by Xaero [+]
I would like to know too!  I spoke with Twisted Throttle and they are about to get a shipment in of these.  However they were all on backorder.  Would be nice to see if anyone who back ordered one and is a taller rider would pipe in once they get it.

I've got mine on order from them. Hopefully I'll be in that first shipment.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: baggy on February 18, 2014, 02:25:16 PM
Has anyone fitted their GIVI screen yet? I am waiting to order one once someone gives me the :152:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Utilimuter on February 18, 2014, 10:41:04 PM
Mine is fitted. I'll try and get a pic tonight. I'll also take it for a bit of a spin and let you know how it does at different speeds. Here are a few comparison shots:

Honda Stock Screen:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt38/tcgetsbored/Mobile%20Uploads/20140213_120531_zpseeddoui_edit_1392315514879_zpsh59f1ogb.jpg)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt38/tcgetsbored/Mobile%20Uploads/20140213_120545_zpsibwz7ak_edit_1392315571594_zpsk9ahugma.jpg)

Honda Tall Screen:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt38/tcgetsbored/20140213_194853_zpsvingjayq.jpg)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt38/tcgetsbored/20140213_194919_zps6krq8gbv.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: baggy on February 19, 2014, 10:08:57 AM
Thanks mate. Just looking now for the best place to get one from in the UK
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: baggy on February 19, 2014, 10:20:13 AM
The same situation as when I got my GIVI Top box, the screen is cheaper from Accessorimotostore.com in Italy than it is from a U.K. shop or website.

Crazy really
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Falp on February 19, 2014, 11:09:15 AM
I cannot stand that stock windscreen anymore, it's useless!

Wanted to keep it but always riding with my visor closed and a useless jet helmet is not for me! Nor is cold in my chest and neck!

I used to ride with open visor until 100~120 km/h on my previous Transalp.

I don't like the Givi windscreen (too big) but I ordered another big one, the Puig model. :)

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Utilimuter on February 20, 2014, 04:26:34 PM
Installed pics:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt38/tcgetsbored/20140218_165845_zpsvef5xj7a.jpg)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt38/tcgetsbored/20140218_165928_zpsxhn0oiug.jpg)

This screen is hands down better than the Honda tall option. There is a tiny bit of side to side buffeting at high speeds starts around 65mph (100-110kph). I was cruising comfortably at about 80 mph (130kph) and it easily felt better than the honda tall screen at about 60+.  I would definitely recommend this screen to any taller guys over the Honda tall screen.  (I'm 6'3'' (190.5cm)with an inseam of 31'' (79cm)) There is also great coverage of the hands with screen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: beemer55 on February 20, 2014, 07:13:09 PM
Have you guys checked these out?

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-variotouringscreen-windshield-for-honda-cb500x-13 (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-variotouringscreen-windshield-for-honda-cb500x-13)

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-sport-windscreen-for-honda-cb500x-13 (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-sport-windscreen-for-honda-cb500x-13)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: baggy on February 20, 2014, 09:15:21 PM
*Originally Posted by Utilimuter [+]

This screen is hands down better than the Honda tall option. There is a tiny bit of side to side buffeting at high speeds starts around 65mph (100-110kph). I was cruising comfortably at about 80 mph (130kph) and it easily felt better than the honda tall screen at about 60+.  I would definitely recommend this screen to any taller guys over the Honda tall screen.  (I'm 6'3'' (190.5cm)with an inseam of 31'' (79cm)) There is also great coverage of the hands with screen.

Thanks. I ordered mine from Italy yesterday and it's due for delivery Tuesday  :002:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Falp on February 21, 2014, 11:59:47 AM
*Originally Posted by beemer55 [+]
Have you guys checked these out?

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-variotouringscreen-windshield-for-honda-cb500x-13 (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-variotouringscreen-windshield-for-honda-cb500x-13)

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-sport-windscreen-for-honda-cb500x-13 (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-sport-windscreen-for-honda-cb500x-13)
Yes... :) I prefer the stock one looks and the the Puig I'm waiting for... :)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Doug5k on February 22, 2014, 08:19:28 AM
I fitted the Puig screen a few weeks ago (purchased from Germany on eBay). I'm very happy with it so far. Much smoother airflow over the helmet. I only get buffeting when following a large vehicle, which is to be expected.

I'm 6' 3" with a Shoei GT-Air helmet and found the buffeting with the standard screen too much to handle at 100 - 110 kph. I'm also going to try a couple of spacers under the base of the Puig screen just for interest's sake. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rosmoe on February 25, 2014, 07:40:11 PM
Thanks for all the windshield info, a big help.  Will order mine today.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: baggy on February 25, 2014, 08:30:01 PM
Ordered my screen from Italy on Thursday and it arrived today  :152:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Thebishop on March 08, 2014, 08:45:30 PM
Anyone got the Givi screen fitted with Barkbusters?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Utilimuter on March 08, 2014, 09:15:57 PM
*Originally Posted by Thebishop [+]
Anyone got the Givi screen fitted with Barkbusters?

Unfortunately, it won't work. There just isn't enough room. Even tried with a set of bar risers but it made the situation worse.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Ron S on March 08, 2014, 10:41:47 PM
I got the Vario Touring screen last fall, it was an easy install.  Only had few runs with it before the snow came but I found it very good.  Needed to try a few adjustments on the spoiler to get the best performance for my height (5ft 10ins).  Now if the snow would just go away!! I could try it out some more
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Thebishop on March 09, 2014, 08:22:24 AM
And this screen works with Barkbusters?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Ron S on March 09, 2014, 05:09:20 PM
Took a look at my Vario Vs the OEM and it flares out so would most likely interfere with the Barkbusters.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rosmoe on March 09, 2014, 08:27:54 PM
Added a few things to the X
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rosmoe on March 12, 2014, 06:37:50 PM
Added the Givi Windshield for a few days, too much buffeting at highway speeds, will put the stock screen back on.  I am 6'2"
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bsuraiya on March 13, 2014, 06:38:46 PM
Has anybody tried attaching a visor (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-clip-on-windscreen-visor (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-clip-on-windscreen-visor)) to a normal Honda CB500X Windshield ? Does it provide the kind of deflection of wind that a taller windscreen from Givi offers ? Since the Givi is not available right now, am looking for options, hence the question about the visor.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Utilimuter on March 13, 2014, 07:48:53 PM
Well I'm finally going to do a long ride test of my set up. Leaving tonight, I'll be doing about 750 miles round trip.  I've been getting some minor side to side buffeting as I said earlier. I'm going to add one last piece and be done with windshield. I was hoping it was going to be here today, but anyways, here it is: http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-add-on-variable-windscreen-spoiler-blade-bolt-on-10677 (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-add-on-variable-windscreen-spoiler-blade-bolt-on-10677)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bsuraiya on March 13, 2014, 09:01:40 PM
Has anybody tried the http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-sport-windscreen-for-honda-cb500x-13 (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-sport-windscreen-for-honda-cb500x-13)
?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hyperpete on March 13, 2014, 09:04:30 PM
I've never had success with windshields actually working, tried different ones on various bikes in the past, gs1150, gs1200, gtr1400, nexus500, and now I have the X.
my last ride, a ktm duke690, had a little 2" deflector screen, it actually helped weirdly.  But before planning a long ride (7500kms) I thought a full cover touring screen might be good, got a givi to suit, looked great but when fitted there was no end to the buffeting.
Ended up doing the trip without the screen, best thing I did, the helmet worked well in the full wind, riding thru 35-41 degree temps was good in the wind..
I've since decided not to bother with a taller screen and go thru all that expense and trial again..
the X I've found to be ok on the low position, I'm even going to try without the screen,  wondering if the air flow might become more comfortable, anyone tried this?
I wonder sometimes if screen makers actually test their products or just assume they will work?
Must say, if you've ridden a bmw RTmodel, you see a screen that works...but, a little expensive.
Just my thoughts on screen changes, even in cold winters (here, riding in chill factor of around minus 5, to10) I'm fine with the right gear on..

Happy screen hunting, it all adds to the fun of the adventure :002:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Falp on March 14, 2014, 10:37:59 AM
My Transalp 650 with a Givi windscreen was about perfect allowing me to allways ride until 120 km/h with open visor.  :007:

Last week I tried a stock 2009 1200Gs and was about perfect!

My stock 500X is much worst than riding standing...  :189:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Utilimuter on March 14, 2014, 01:54:06 PM
Finished the first leg of my trip late last night. I am very happy with my Givi screen. I it does make a big difference with air flow and big time noise reduction. There is minor buffeting, but it's nothing like you're describing hyperpete. I still am happy with this screen and I think the spoiler will only make it better.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Muttley on March 14, 2014, 10:09:15 PM
I have the MRA vario screen which I am very happy with. No buffeting and no great wind hitting my helmet. As an experiment I did try the bike naked and found it uncomfortable and was riding 10 mph slower. Didn't feel happy over 65 mph. I have recently bought a BMW helmet (made by Schuberth) bit expensive but makes for a much more comfortable ride quiet-wise compared to my previous lid. You can't put a price on your hearing. Pretty happy with my setup now.
M
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Falp on March 14, 2014, 11:52:17 PM
And i'm still waiting for my Puig windscreen...  :157:

Well I'm going for one week snow ski then I'll see.. :080:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: GsVs on March 15, 2014, 02:14:33 AM
*Originally Posted by bsuraiya [+]
Has anybody tried the http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-sport-windscreen-for-honda-cb500x-13 (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/mra-x-creen-sport-windscreen-for-honda-cb500x-13)
?

I have one of those on my NC700X. ....... I really like it -gives tons of adjustments -- allows one to fine tune the airflow. ....
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Xaero on March 16, 2014, 02:21:08 AM
I have a Givi windshield with a MRA sport spoiler on it.  It works great!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bigbobby on March 17, 2014, 08:31:01 AM
I run the long honda screen with 1/4" blocks fitted under lower mounts. Works well enough.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: GsVs on March 19, 2014, 02:03:15 AM
Just found out Mark at MadStad has designed a Adjustable Height/Tilt Windscreen System for the CB500X.  The Brackets are done and ready - they are working on some side deflectors to block air coming in around the turn signals.   They said they should be done later this week.
- - - - - - - - - -
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg70/motilen/CB500X/MadStad/Photo-1_zps54478abd.jpeg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/motilen/media/CB500X/MadStad/Photo-1_zps54478abd.jpeg.html)

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Falp on March 25, 2014, 10:01:58 PM
I don't think the size of the windscreen is the main problem as is the small distance from the windscreen to the rider/helmet plus the too horizontal screen mounting... just my 3 month and 2 different windscreens opinion...  :015:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rosmoe on March 27, 2014, 06:49:09 PM
Raised the bottom of the stock screen about an inch, works very well !!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bigbobby on March 28, 2014, 05:42:52 AM
I raised the bottom of the OEM long screen by 1/4" and it works well.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Falp on March 28, 2014, 10:33:27 AM
*Originally Posted by bigbobby [+]
I raised the bottom of the OEM long screen by 1/4" and it works well.
The bottom? :187: Shouldn't be the top screws?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bigbobby on March 28, 2014, 10:42:44 AM
No, bottom. The screen causes turbulence which hits my helmet. When fitted to the bottom, it's less of an angle and also has a layer of air on the inside to help smooth it out at the top.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mww916 on March 29, 2014, 12:45:08 AM
Tried moving screen up, down and off completely. Hardly any difference at all and the noise is unbearable.

I hate the larger screens as i think they are ugly , what else can one do though?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bigbobby on March 29, 2014, 03:39:06 AM
Try putting 1/4" spacers under the lower mounts to raise the lower section.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Pipsqueak on March 29, 2014, 08:25:16 AM
I am 6 foot and bought the Givi based on here and another forums recommendation.  I am getting buffeting on the top of my helmet at any speed over 60kph and the winds hits me at forehead level.  Tried the spacer on the top mounts and it was worse.  Tried on bottom and it was better but still worse than stock. :232:

So either it's coming off or I need an MRA spoiler or some such mount.

Thoughts ?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on April 04, 2014, 01:21:48 AM
I was satisfied with the non-turbulence when I removed the windscreen, so I removed the windscreen brackets.

They are welded to the headlight cage.  First photo is after the hacksaw and black primer:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/P1010875_zps67557950.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/eclipseANDjunk/P1010875_zps67557950.jpg.html)

The 2nd photo is everything put back together:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/P1010876_zps3acb4845.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/eclipseANDjunk/P1010876_zps3acb4845.jpg.html)

I doubt that many folks will do this, but, it works for me.   :007:

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Falp on April 04, 2014, 08:11:02 AM
*Originally Posted by jsonder [+]
I was satisfied with the non-turbulence when I removed the windscreen, so I removed the windscreen brackets.

They are welded to the headlight cage.  First photo is after the hacksaw and black primer:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/P1010875_zps67557950.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/eclipseANDjunk/P1010875_zps67557950.jpg.html)

The 2nd photo is everything put back together:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/P1010876_zps3acb4845.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/eclipseANDjunk/P1010876_zps3acb4845.jpg.html)

I doubt that many folks will do this, but, it works for me.   :007:
Well know you have a unique model CB500F!  :035:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mww916 on April 04, 2014, 08:40:01 AM
I tried the removal of the screen as well. Can't say I noticed a change in the buffeting or noise. But I did like the "feel" without the screen.

More supermotard, more agressive "feel"

But I can't bring myself to make the permanent change by hacking of the arms.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hyperpete on April 04, 2014, 11:40:32 AM
 :152:
I like the NO windshield concept.
After riding various shielded and ones without, I do remember all those with shields had some issue with noise, buffeting, with some I spent lots of inconvenient time and money trying to cure the issues, without success.
Only by removing the screen did they become wind-comfortable.

The X I find isn't too bad on the low screen, but the jsonder pix dont look too bad...
won't be hard to try, but dunno about cutting the brackets off... :138:

I suppose one could attach some flags, foxtails, mmm.. :008:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on April 04, 2014, 02:04:24 PM
*Originally Posted by Falp [+]
Well know you have a unique model CB500F!  :035:   


Well, it still has the bigger handlebars, longer front forks, center stand, and the bigger gas tank. 

However, you are right, I probably should have bought an F.  It was hard to get one with ABS last year when the F was white.  And, I have been riding enduros for some time and like the ergonomics.

The brackets had to go for safety reasons. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on April 04, 2014, 10:38:27 PM
Scotch (TM) has an all-plastic duct tape that comes in black and adheres well to the cowl.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/P1010878_zps6ed32704.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/eclipseANDjunk/P1010878_zps6ed32704.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mww916 on April 08, 2014, 09:45:51 AM
I tried raising the bottom by 1/4" as posted here - no real difference. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Has anyone used or tried these: http://procycles.net.au/Merchant5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PC&Product_Code=8110024-025&Category_Code=all-accessories (http://procycles.net.au/Merchant5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PC&Product_Code=8110024-025&Category_Code=all-accessories)

Expensive - but they can be moved to other bikes / easily sold if it doesn't work....

So many options ....  :087:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rosmoe on April 12, 2014, 08:27:47 PM
Put the Tall Givi Windshield back on & raised the bottom of it by about an inch, does make a big difference, very little buffeting & wind noise.  Still wear the ear plugs though !
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: grnd0 on April 13, 2014, 12:38:10 AM
I have a Powerbronze screen on mine that is about 3 inches
taller than stock, and made a big difference. Helmet choice
can be very important too. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bluecap on April 13, 2014, 01:43:48 AM
Has anybody tried the Ermax windshield? Looks nice.
http://www.ermax.fr/modele2-CB_500_X_2013_2014-2145.html (http://www.ermax.fr/modele2-CB_500_X_2013_2014-2145.html)
I am between the Ermax,
Puig (http://www.puig.tv/tuning-bikes/honda-cb500x-2014/touring-screen/c171en/f1-r19-m4549/ (http://www.puig.tv/tuning-bikes/honda-cb500x-2014/touring-screen/c171en/f1-r19-m4549/))
and
MRA Touring (https://www.mrashop.de/erp/catalog/navigation/catalogNavigation.action?selher=(158,18,0)&modell=(3912,19,0)&kgetforms=1&tableNavigations.CATALOG_NAVIGATION_PRODUCT_TABLE_NAVIGATION_KEY.offset=0) (https://www.mrashop.de/erp/catalog/navigation/catalogNavigation.action?selher=(158,18,0)&modell=(3912,19,0)&kgetforms=1&tableNavigations.CATALOG_NAVIGATION_PRODUCT_TABLE_NAVIGATION_KEY.offset=0))
or VarioTouring.

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rogie68 on April 13, 2014, 02:32:31 AM
i fitted the sliding part of my givi airflow screen from my crosstourer to my original toring screen on my 500X and its 100 % better,can ride with a dual sport helmet and not have the air catch the peak

http://youtu.be/0OXYHi5JJZw (http://youtu.be/0OXYHi5JJZw)

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mww916 on April 13, 2014, 07:56:14 PM
Agreed helmet choice is important - but after trying the Open Face, Full Face and Modular helmets (I have to admit I haven't tried my motocross helmet) there is no difference in noise, it is pretty consistent and way too annoying, for me.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: phildownunder on April 18, 2014, 11:35:19 PM
Not got experience of any other screens yet, but adding my experience in case it helps others:

I rode my X about 200kms yesterday from Sydney to Jervis Bay and got a good experience of different wind impacts. I had the stock screen on high position. Stock screen is fine to 80km/h or so, and more so on twisty / mountain roads. But on open highways (90km/h and upwards) I think it needs a screen.

My lid is a Shoei XR1100 which I don't think is a quiet helmet at the best of times. Sitting in a natural upright position the windflow hits the underside of my helmet and shoulders. I tried tucking down and it relieved it a bit and hit my forehead but that was a lot louder. My opinion being that a little more height on the screen would make a big difference.

Of the screens talked about so far:
- I like the look of the CalSCi screen (http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/CB500prod.html (http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/CB500prod.html)). I like the look of the side profile photo - the 45 degree angle looks like it would send a good amount of wind over your head. It's not the best looking but this would just be for touring and so wouldn't keep it on all the time.
- I had a small Puig screen on my last bike and had a good experience so I'd consider their touring screen with adjustable visor (http://www.puigusa.com/tuning-bikes/honda-cb500x-2014/touring-screen-with-visor/c171en/f1-r305-m4549/ (http://www.puigusa.com/tuning-bikes/honda-cb500x-2014/touring-screen-with-visor/c171en/f1-r305-m4549/)). The Aus importer is a good guy to deal with.

Wish there was somewhere that you could see all of the screens in action in one place. It's can be an expensive and time consuming experiment to order windscreens online.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: willielee3 on April 19, 2014, 02:56:58 AM
Just received the Wunderlich windshield attachment today. I will post a review tomorrow after installation.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on April 19, 2014, 09:33:49 AM
Ive only been riding my new bike a couple of weeks and so far am pretty happy with the stock screen on high setting, Im 6'3.5" so my head is above most the buffeting, some helmet noise but not bad. At 120kmh I put my left hand on top of the screen to simulate a 3" higher screen and helmet noise was crazy loud! Ive started to tabulate screen options with height in inches above stock:

Wunderlich (Spoiler)
MRA Vario 2.5
Ermax 3
Honda tall 3
Givi D11ST 6.3
Puig Vario 6.5
Calsci  11
Madstad  ??

Not sure the height of the last one but the Calsci seems highest by a long shot. Anyone can add to this list?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: cdiamond on April 19, 2014, 10:28:44 AM
*Originally Posted by willielee3 [+]
Just received the Wunderlich windshield attachment today. I will post a review tomorrow after installation.

I received my Wunderlich yesterday!  BIG BIG difference maker. Installation instructions were a little confusing, but the bracket is very well made, and the system definitely reduced buffeting and wind noise. I took a 100 mile ride and tried 2 different positions.  Both positions were big improvements. I'll keep tweaking the setting, but this X rider is very satisfied.  I was very reluctant to spend $130 on this product, but not any more. My highest recommendation!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: willielee3 on April 19, 2014, 09:08:17 PM
Installed the Wunderlich Shield today....not bad at all.

Wind noise is significantly reduced but I still need to tweak the adjustments to maximize performance. I will post an update later.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: phildownunder on April 22, 2014, 04:03:47 AM
*Originally Posted by Tas [+]
Puig Vario 6.5

As reference for any Aussie Xers, I got quoted $349 + $16 shipping for the Puig Touring screen with Visor. That was from Online Racing Spares. Seems high so I'm going to be looking at some of the alternatives before shelling out. Perhaps their clip-on visor to add to the stock screen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Pipsqueak on April 23, 2014, 07:21:42 AM
Pipsqueak back again.

Recap: Givi screen ---> buffeting.  6 foot rider with neck problems so needs clear air for higher speed trips.

Bought an MRA Sport X creen from Amazon.com as cheapest way to get it in Sydney. ~$120

Half an hour to fit onto Givi, drilled it using a fluted drill bit.  Easy but the instructions to put it together take patience. :210:

Half an hour of trying different settings on the move and yes big improvement.   400km trip to Wollombi and back over Easter says it works well.   I can keep my visor up until 90kms/hr.   Bike goes great by the way but you need to wring its neck a bit.  Kept up with GS1200s no problem although I am sure I was working harder than them.

Lesson for me; we are all different and plenty of folks on the interwebs said Givi would be great for me.  If you are 5' 10" or under I would agree.  Over that you need a barn door Calsci or this arrangement of MRA plus Givi or perhaps another tall screen.  There is no substitute for height I am afraid and good looking and comfort are interchangeable but not mutual.

Hope that helps...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hyperpete on April 23, 2014, 10:22:35 AM
I decided to give a lowered screen a go.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i64.photobucket.com/albums/h193/r1150gfun/CB500X%20RIDES%203FEB2014/2014-04-23%2017.24.21_zpsqddoopmz.png) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/r1150gfun/media/CB500X%20RIDES%203FEB2014/2014-04-23%2017.24.21_zpsqddoopmz.png.html)
My experience with faired bikes has not been good.
I've had GS 1150, 1200; GTR1400; NEXUS 500; MULTISTRADA 1100S; can't think of any more, but only the multistrada was ok with the factory shield, the rest were fiddled, cut, enlarged, but most all of them performed on with their screens removed or lowered to about the same height as it would be removed.
So, with the x being ok on the lower setting it still isn't clean wind, so I've mounted 2 of the top screws into that long decorative slot on the bracket, with rubber spacers on the top and lower screen where it touches the panel.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i64.photobucket.com/albums/h193/r1150gfun/CB500X%20RIDES%203FEB2014/2014-04-23%2017.29.08_zpsrycmw9h5.png) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/r1150gfun/media/CB500X%20RIDES%203FEB2014/2014-04-23%2017.29.08_zpsrycmw9h5.png.html)
Fits neat and clean, tomorrow's ride will test it, I think it'll be ok, soon find out hey :002:
After almost 40K in the full wind on my ex Duke690 this little mod should be fine.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i64.photobucket.com/albums/h193/r1150gfun/CB500X%20RIDES%203FEB2014/2014-04-23%2017.22.47_zpsbumbhqxs.png) (http://s64.photobucket.com/user/r1150gfun/media/CB500X%20RIDES%203FEB2014/2014-04-23%2017.22.47_zpsbumbhqxs.png.html)
And, I think it's not bad looking, overlaps the daylight and the 2 pretend lights on top of the headlight, all are insignificant especially that little 5w daylight.
Anyway; let you know if it works.
:002:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: markdemory on April 23, 2014, 12:02:36 PM
I am getting a taller windshield delivered today from Revzilla
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-touring-windscreen-honda-cb500x-2013-2014 (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-touring-windscreen-honda-cb500x-2013-2014)
Will post pics and thoughts after delivery and a ride.
Here is recent pic with all decals removed.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on April 23, 2014, 12:26:03 PM
I think helmet noise is as much the helmet design as windscreen height. My Shark is noisy with 3 vent switches, and especially if the top vents are open! Which is often as the switches easily get knocked. And I noticed today that its less noisy when the internal sun shade is flipped down, compared to when flipped up!. I added a 'Windjammer' to the helmet and that reduces noise somewhat. But next helmet I will buy will have pinlock and thats it, no other vents/switches.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on April 23, 2014, 12:27:52 PM
*Originally Posted by markdemory [+]
I am getting a taller windshield delivered today from Revzilla
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-touring-windscreen-honda-cb500x-2013-2014 (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-touring-windscreen-honda-cb500x-2013-2014)
Will post pics and thoughts after delivery and a ride.
Here is recent pic with all decals removed.
Thats a great price. Was postage reasonable?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dukie on April 23, 2014, 12:32:30 PM
i have the honda taller screen. it does a much better job of keeping the wind off my chest than the stock screen.
I am comfortable even at the top of the legal speed limit. This means i can stay relaxed on the bike AS THE WIND IS NOT BLASTIGN ME.
considerale buffering is now heard above 45mph on the helmet. as a result i have ordered wunderlich universal screen extension which adds 8cm to the honda taller screen which makes it as high as the the Givi screen (which si the highest i could find) the advantage being that the air flow over the top of the screen is now adjustable, i will review once installed and tested.

TLDR: honda tall screen takes wind pressure off torso and directs on to head, this is turn causes buffering
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: markdemory on April 23, 2014, 12:35:05 PM
*Originally Posted by Tas [+]
Thats a great price. Was postage reasonable?
Delivered to me in the states for free
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hyperpete on April 23, 2014, 04:56:59 PM
*Originally Posted by Dukie [+]
i have the honda taller screen. it does a much better job of keeping the wind off my chest than the stock screen.
I am comfortable even at the top of the legal speed limit. This means i can stay relaxed on the bike AS THE WIND IS NOT BLASTIGN ME.
considerale buffering is now heard above 45mph on the helmet. as a result i have ordered wunderlich universal screen extension which adds 8cm to the honda taller screen which makes it as high as the the Givi screen (which si the highest i could find) the advantage being that the air flow over the top of the screen is now adjustable, i will review once installed and tested.

TLDR: honda tall screen takes wind pressure off torso and directs on to head, this is turn causes buffering

You seem to have low legal speeds? Here I am only under 100-130kmh when entering towns.
I don't mind taller screens but I've got them for a few previous bikes,on some with mixed results.
On the X above 100+kmh its ok but if I sit up about 2 inches into the area just above the screen it's virtually silent in most of my helmets, that's why I'm lowering the screen before I spend more, again.
I once had 3 faired bikes one after each other then on the fourth one, with no shield I found I didn't need ear plugs anymore as the direct wind made the helmet work as intended.
Still, after tomorrow's test ride, maybe down the Oxley Highway again :002: it might all turn to sh#t and I'm end up with a taller screen, we'll see.
:002:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: markdemory on April 23, 2014, 08:08:43 PM
New Puig from Revzilla installed.
Had an 1" of rain today. Still contemplating throwing on my gear and riding to see the difference.
Will get back.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: phildownunder on April 24, 2014, 05:14:48 AM
*Originally Posted by markdemory [+]
New Puig from Revzilla installed. [snip]

Look forward to hearing your thoughts. Is that the smoke model? Great price from Revzilla.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: markdemory on April 24, 2014, 06:27:52 AM
So rode with the new Puig in pouring rain. I had mounted it the highest setting. Btw I'm 6'2".
So at 35mph I could feel that there was no wind on shoulders and chest. As soon as I got above 50 I could feel the buffeting that Dukie had talked about.
The plus for me as I tend to ride in the rain alot is.... Now at the wind comes over the new windscreen and then down my face shield. This blows the rain right of my shield.
With the stock screen the rain drops jut stayed static and did not move
Until I move my head from side to side.
I readjusted new Puig to the lowest setting on the bracket.
This first of all looks better. Didn't see too much difference. 
Overall I like the it.
I'll need to test drive it some more when it's dry and I don't have traffic all bunched up around me.
More later.
A pretty good deal tho at $86. Oh and yes it is a smoked shield. Darker than it appears on the Revzilla site.
I also had $25 credit from Revzilla after buying $500 worth of riding year so my total cost was $61
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on April 25, 2014, 10:51:11 AM
Looks like the Cal-sci is the tallest at 11 inches over stock screen but its also expensive  :005:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Falp on April 25, 2014, 12:40:33 PM
*Originally Posted by phildownunder [+]
Look forward to hearing your thoughts. Is that the smoke model? Great price from Revzilla.
I'm using the transparent version on the lower position!  :002:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: malcolmhealey on April 27, 2014, 10:38:37 PM
No matter what I've tried there is still excessive wind noise, high/low screen setting no noticable difference, a givvi tall screen which is just as noisy with unbelievable buffeting bordering on dangerous in strong side winds and when overtaking lorries. A new Schuberth C3 pro helmet made no difference, still noisy, it's quieter on my TT600RE, so I think a lower screen may be the answer.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hyperpete on April 27, 2014, 11:04:20 PM
Well, after lowering my screen about 2 inches below standard it tested crap.
So it's back in the low position with happy results, between the high and extra low I find the normal low is good. Gives minimal noisy wind and far less turbulence than the other settings.
I've spent/wasted lots of cash on screens that never worked so considering the options and reports here I'm staying with the standard.
 :821:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on April 28, 2014, 03:20:43 AM
I'm happy with no screen, but, I've ridden enduros and naked bikes since 1960.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/P1010882_zps7a62aabd.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/eclipseANDjunk/P1010882_zps7a62aabd.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Xch on April 28, 2014, 06:20:48 AM
*Originally Posted by hyperpete [+]
Well, after lowering my screen about 2 inches below standard it tested crap.
So it's back in the low position with happy results, between the high and extra low I find the normal low is good. Gives minimal noisy wind and far less turbulence than the other settings.
I've spent/wasted lots of cash on screens that never worked so considering the options and reports here I'm staying with the standard.
 :821:

Same results here, 178 cm tall using Shark Evo 3 or Icon Variant ADV helmet. Shark is noisier.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Falp on April 28, 2014, 08:42:16 AM
Well with my new moludar helmet and Puig windscreen (on the lower position) I can ride up to 100 km/h with flip up!

Some turbulence but much better than stock!  :018:

I'm 1.82cm tall.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hyperpete on April 28, 2014, 08:45:37 AM
Yes, I too have a Shark Evo, very much noisier, but my fav is the BMWsystem6 which is quite good, also occasionally use Arai XD which is quite good with wind!
I got myself a box of earplugs at a previous job, cost near 10c a set so I'll never be short of having them on hand  :008:
but, despite the wind factor, most everything else on the X excels so it's just a minor side effect in the big picture.
:002:

*Originally Posted by Xch [+]
Same results here, 178 cm tall using Shark Evo 3 or Icon Variant ADV helmet. Shark is noisier.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: whitey1 on May 07, 2014, 12:05:33 AM
Any testing on the Madstadts?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: GsVs on May 07, 2014, 01:20:14 AM
*Originally Posted by whitey1 [+]
Any testing on the Madstadts?

I should have a MadStad set-up for the CB500X by the weekend - will report back once I get some miles behind it.

...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: maXimillian on May 10, 2014, 02:37:41 PM
I wasn't pleased with the stock windshield as my helmet started to flutter at the speed of 80 to 90 km/h due to turbulences behind the screen. Got better when riding beyond 90 km/h. Found a simple and cost free solution to this problem.
I put the small stock shield in it's highest position, inserted - where the four screws were - four distance holders of approx. 2.5 cm. Instead of putting the screws back, I used cable straps instead. They are more flexible than screws and very easy to attach.
First test ride: No more turbulences at all. Big impovement.
BTW, I am 170 cm tall.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Utilimuter on May 11, 2014, 03:16:11 PM
I use my X for weekend commutes of about 750 miles. With the speeds I typically travel, I was looking for as much adjustable coverage as I could get. This is the Givi screen with the MRA Xcreen sport. This set up works very well. Keeps things as quiet and smooth as you can get on a motorcycle this size.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i595.photobucket.com/albums/tt38/tcgetsbored/20140502_182917_zpsq6tzr9q_edit_1399817497041_zpsztaso1gg.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Kooch11 on May 13, 2014, 02:02:42 AM
Hello guys and gals, I'm going to kill two birds with one stone. Bought a new 13 a few days ago. 70 mile trip home and it was obvious I need a a different windscreen.. I'm looking at the MRA touring  vs MRA X screen. Comments? The X-creen is on a 6 week back order
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: phildownunder on May 14, 2014, 03:16:07 AM
Received and fitted the Puig Touring screen this week. Very good so far although only tested to 70kmh. Will take it out properly this weekend to check out performance on higher speeds. Have updated the "Windscreen photos" thread with some images.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Kooch11 on May 14, 2014, 08:15:53 PM
*Originally Posted by phildownunder [+]
Received and fitted the Puig Touring screen this week. Very good so far although only tested to 70kmh. Will take it out properly this weekend to check out performance on higher speeds. Have updated the "Windscreen photos" thread with some images.

I look forward to your report on higher speeds as the speed limit here on the interstate is 75MPH.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: GsVs on May 16, 2014, 03:31:30 AM
Below are some pics of the New CB500X MadStad Windscreen System …
Just like the systems that have made for other bikes - “It Just Plain Works”

The quote below off of their WEB page pretty much sums it up

http://www.madstad.com/ (http://www.madstad.com/)

“Fixed shields simply can't compare to our adjustable system which adapts to everyone regardless of height or riding position. It eliminates turbulence by eliminating the vacuum behind the shield. You get smooth airflow that you can adjust precisely for your particular height and riding position.”

Add to that the “Wind Deflectors” that attach to the top of the side fairing panels which help deflect and smooth the airflow from the bottom.   I tested the system without the side wind deflectors first -- then added them and tested again. 
The wind deflectors really do improve on a already great windscreen system. 

The final version of the windscreen will have a different cut to better follow the lines of the CB500X.
= = =
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg70/motilen/CB500X/MadStad/DSCF0809-C_zps110dcfe7.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/motilen/media/CB500X/MadStad/DSCF0809-C_zps110dcfe7.jpg.html)
= = =
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg70/motilen/CB500X/MadStad/DSCF0797-C_zpscdce9e19.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/motilen/media/CB500X/MadStad/DSCF0797-C_zpscdce9e19.jpg.html)
= = =
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg70/motilen/CB500X/MadStad/DSCF0800-C_zpsb9499d1f.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/motilen/media/CB500X/MadStad/DSCF0800-C_zpsb9499d1f.jpg.html)
= = =
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg70/motilen/CB500X/MadStad/DSCF0795-CC_zps073bccd4.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/motilen/media/CB500X/MadStad/DSCF0795-CC_zps073bccd4.jpg.html)
= = =
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg70/motilen/CB500X/MadStad/DSCF0794-C_zps83272b31.jpg) (http://s245.photobucket.com/user/motilen/media/CB500X/MadStad/DSCF0794-C_zps83272b31.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: whitey1 on May 17, 2014, 05:33:31 AM
Hey GsVs, thanks for the pics! Is that your bike? I didn't see any CB500X's on Madstadt's page.

I am looking forward to a report from you. I would be surprised if this isn't the best option for this, or most, bikes.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: GsVs on May 19, 2014, 04:45:09 PM
*Originally Posted by whitey1 [+]
Hey GsVs, thanks for the pics! Is that your bike? I didn't see any CB500X's on Madstadt's page.

I am looking forward to a report from you. I would be surprised if this isn't the best option for this, or most, bikes.

Hey ..

Yes - that is my CB500X - with a test system ...

They just are getting the design finalized .... and will be in production real soon.
See the Contact information on the web page below ..

http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.13/.f (http://www.madstad.com/s.nl/sc.13/.f)

Call or email them for more info ...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: pmartin on May 21, 2014, 02:18:49 PM
Joncho,
Many thanks for the great tip!!

I am 6' 2" and have the standard windshield on its highest setting. The buffering/turbulence was so bad at 50 mph that I was reluctant to go much faster than 60 mph. I did try the windshield on its lowest setting but this made no difference. Last night I moved the windshield back to its highest setting and installed the 2 x 1/4 washers on the bottom mounting screws.

I drove the bike into work today and the buffering/turbulence was completely gone. Just a steady stream of air hitting me mid-chest which I have no problem with. Before splashing out on the expensive replacement windshield you might want to give this a try. The washers cost me $1.69 for 6 from Ace!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: grnd0 on May 21, 2014, 03:01:23 PM
I have a Powerbronze on my X that is about 2" taller than stock.
The outer edge is flared outward and I think that directs wind
flow farther away. I like it a lot. Way better than stock one.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bluecap on May 22, 2014, 10:48:21 PM
grnd0
any chance you can post a picture of your bike with the Powerbronze windshield and tell me your height?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rosmoe on May 22, 2014, 11:04:54 PM
Finally fixed my windshield problem, lifted the stock windshield about an 1" 1/4 above the brackets it is bolted too with sections of cut fuel line as spacers & longer allen bolts.  No more buffeting or turbulance, just clean air flow.  I am 6'2" . Attached photo shows the very simple & cheap fix.  Anyone want the Givi Tall Screen, it is collecting dust now ?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: grnd0 on May 23, 2014, 01:59:50 AM
*Originally Posted by bluecap [+]
grnd0
any chance you can post a picture of your bike with the Powerbronze windshield and tell me your height?

Don't have any pics of mine yet but there are pics on Powerbronze site.
http://www.powerbronzeusa.com/15316547/818268/---HONDA-CB500X-13-14-%28390-MM-HIGH%29.model (http://www.powerbronzeusa.com/15316547/818268/---HONDA-CB500X-13-14-%28390-MM-HIGH%29.model)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Klay on May 23, 2014, 11:06:18 PM
*Originally Posted by rosmoe [+]
Finally fixed my windshield problem, lifted the stock windshield about an 1" 1/4 above the brackets it is bolted too with sections of cut fuel line as spacers & longer allen bolts.  No more buffeting or turbulance, just clean air flow.  I am 6'2" . Attached photo shows the very simple & cheap fix.  Anyone want the Givi Tall Screen, it is collecting dust now ?


There's the answer to my questions.  I think I'm going to try that. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on May 23, 2014, 11:58:26 PM
I recommend adding a Windjammer to your helmet for those getting helmet noise from the small screen blasting air at or below your chin, here is mine on my Shark vision - r:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74721593@N05/7133571837 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/74721593@N05/7133571837)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Klay on May 24, 2014, 07:54:51 PM
Lowering the windshield seems to have done the trick.  My helmet is in clean and smooth air now.


(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=klay.smugmug.com/Other/May-2014/i-bj7sn4V/0/L/002-L.jpg)


(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=klay.smugmug.com/Other/May-2014/i-wJgHV4c/0/L/004-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: victord33 on May 25, 2014, 12:22:44 AM
I just adjusted my Puig screen and took a few shots, so I thought I would share them. I have 3/8" rubber spacers at the bottom. Without, the buffeting is really quite unpleasant past a certain speed. With the washers it's significantly better, though I don't know if it's 100$ better (because of a new windscreen) or 2$ better (because of the spacers). Maybe try spacers on the stock screen in the high position before splurging out, and see if that works for your height (I'm 5'4"). I rushed a little bit on this one (though I do like the look!)

And if anyone is wondering, in the lower position the VPS Barkbusters don't hit the Puig screen at all. In the higher position you'll have to adjust the angle of the handguards a little to get it right (it's very close). With the spacers pushing the screen out, I get about 1/4" of distance between the screen and the Barkbusters.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MonsterMars on May 26, 2014, 04:51:36 AM
Thanks Victord33.
Can we see a pic of your spacers/washers?
It's a good tip.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: theloop on May 26, 2014, 11:12:27 PM
Took my Cal-Sci windshield off to plasti-dip the bottom of it, reason, got a big scratch, plus dust gets behind it where it's hard to clean without removing.  So I took a picture of it next to the stock windshield.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i80.photobucket.com/albums/j177/fleetdad/DSCI0535_zps0ac9a514.jpg)

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i80.photobucket.com/albums/j177/fleetdad/DSCI0537_zpsa940b0f3.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: malcolmhealey on May 29, 2014, 09:25:04 PM
I got so fed up with the turbulence, as stated before, tried, screen higher position, lower position, a givi, wunderleicht deflecter, schuberth c3 pro. The only thing that helped was the screen removed. I've been back to the dealer to get a trade in price against the 500f I test rode one and no excessive noise/turbuence. Before I make the final decision I'm going to try the 1" plus spacers on the std screen. This is the best idea on this topic it should eliminate the high pressure air rushing in around the screen filling the low pressure void behind the screen which is the cause of turbulence and excessive wind noise. The madstrad uses the same principle, look at the distance from the front of the bike the screen is. Fingers crossed, I'll try it if it ever stops raining.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Muttley on May 29, 2014, 09:53:33 PM
What we need is a Mega Meet so we can all compare notes. Wouldn't it be good to take a short test ride on other peoples bikes to test their set-up particularly wind noise. I have a MRA Vario screen which was an improvement on the stock, no turbulence but was still giving me too much wind noise. I bought a BMW helmet (think they're made by Schubert but very similar if not), and that made all the difference. I now can't tell any difference with or without ear plugs. I am 6 foot slim(ish) build.
M
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: malcolmhealey on May 29, 2014, 10:03:22 PM
a mega meet is a good idea, so at the moment there are two of us, let's see if we can get any more takers.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Muttley on May 29, 2014, 10:08:20 PM
There are the seeds of a meet at Rutland Water 17 August ( use Search function to find the thread). Maybe you could make it.
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Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: blergen on May 30, 2014, 05:08:08 AM
Last week I fitted a Kappa windscreen to my X.  Massive difference at highway speeds.  Funny thing is, it's actually a Givi Windscreen with a Kappa sticket over the Givi logo.  Has the Givi part number stamped on it as well.  Bought it from here - cost me $85 euro shipped to Australia.  Got it in 8 days.  Bit fugly, but does the trick.

http://www.brixiamoto.it/it/honda-cb-500-x-13-14-parabrezza-trasparente-kappa-kd1121st (http://www.brixiamoto.it/it/honda-cb-500-x-13-14-parabrezza-trasparente-kappa-kd1121st)

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: victord33 on May 31, 2014, 01:44:18 AM
*Originally Posted by MonsterMars [+]
Thanks Victord33.
Can we see a pic of your spacers/washers?
It's a good tip.

I ended up moving the washers up on the top screws and it makes very little difference for me in terms of noise on the Puig screen so I just left them there. Here are the washers I bought and how I installed them.

Sorry for the dirty bike shot, I got hailed on today in a nasty storm. The screen kept me somewhat shielded from cars spraying water in front of me, which was pretty nice.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Klay on June 17, 2014, 03:13:19 AM
I ended up removing the windshield and now the air flow is perfect.  So I removed the windshield brackets. 

I'm 5' 10".  When I had the windshield in its lowest position (below Honda's lowest intended position, I found that if i lifted off the seat just an inch or two, my helmet was in clean air. 

I'm going to cut two pieces of rubber from an inner tube and super-glue them over the slots where the brackets used to be.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: theloop on June 17, 2014, 03:25:16 AM
*Originally Posted by Klay [+]
I ended up removing the windshield and now the air flow is perfect.  So I removed the windshield brackets. 

I'm 5' 10".  When I had the windshield in its lowest position (below Honda's lowest intended position, I found that if i lifted off the seat just an inch or two, my helmet was in clean air. 

I'm going to cut two pieces of rubber from an inner tube and super-glue them over the slots where the brackets used to be.

Ever think about just cutting the windshield down 2 inches, I think that would have looked better.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mww916 on June 17, 2014, 03:26:30 AM
*Originally Posted by blergen [+]
Last week I fitted a Kappa windscreen to my X.  Massive difference at highway speeds.  Funny thing is, it's actually a Givi Windscreen with a Kappa sticket over the Givi logo.  Has the Givi part number stamped on it as well.  Bought it from here - cost me $85 euro shipped to Australia.  Got it in 8 days.  Bit fugly, but does the trick.

http://www.brixiamoto.it/it/honda-cb-500-x-13-14-parabrezza-trasparente-kappa-kd1121st (http://www.brixiamoto.it/it/honda-cb-500-x-13-14-parabrezza-trasparente-kappa-kd1121st)

It is quite fugly - you are right.

I am sure there is a large majority of this forum that have had to modify in some way the original screen from Honda. Whether it be a wind deflector (which I have) - no screen or an aftermarket screen or Honda's own extended screen (handy for there aftermarket sales)

FAIL!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Klay on June 17, 2014, 03:27:13 AM
*Originally Posted by theloop [+]
Ever think about just cutting the windshield down 2 inches, I think that would have looked better.


Yes, but that would have left the brackets protruding above the windshield. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: chumleebonus on June 24, 2014, 06:39:41 PM
*Originally Posted by rosmoe [+]
Finally fixed my windshield problem, lifted the stock windshield about an 1" 1/4 above the brackets it is bolted too with sections of cut fuel line as spacers & longer allen bolts.  No more buffeting or turbulance, just clean air flow.  I am 6'2" . Attached photo shows the very simple & cheap fix.  Anyone want the Givi Tall Screen, it is collecting dust now ?

Still want to sell the tall Givi?, I'm in the U.S., so postage should be fair.
With my hearing damage, I plan to go with the tallest shield, and wind deflectors on top of that.  Damage...as in...constant ringing, I have to try something or stop riding.  Which isn't a option.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: chumleebonus on June 30, 2014, 05:03:49 PM
Looks like I am going to take the dive and buy a CALSCI fairing, the tallest one I can get, and add a tobinator...Or?...

I have to stop hearing damage, as tinnitus is quite irritating.
 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MyCB on June 30, 2014, 08:06:21 PM
I opted for the Givi which was considerably less than Cal-Sci.  I had it in the highest position, and recently moved it to the lower position for a 150 mile ride yesterday.  In the low position, at 5'11" tall, I still did not get buffeting until I physically stood up on the pegs.  It also looks better a bit lower for those concerned about the looks.  City driving, probably not a concern, but I'm sure there are times when you are at 70 MPH+ on the freeway, and a taller screen makes it much more pleasant.  I noticed that when changing lanes and looking back, that my head doesn't catch all the wind (like with the stock screen) and get a good jarring.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rosmoe on July 01, 2014, 06:14:42 PM
Think I will hang on to my Givi Screen, got it just right after much adjustments.  Have on the lowest setting, seems to work a lot better.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MonsterMars on July 02, 2014, 02:57:04 AM
*Originally Posted by rosmoe [+]
Think I will hang on to my Givi Screen, got it just right after much adjustments.  Have on the lowest setting, seems to work a lot better.

Good to know.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: chumleebonus on July 04, 2014, 04:55:31 PM
Got the CalSci shield yesterday, cost me 200 plus, but what the hell, I volunteered to work a injured employees day, and paid for half of it right there.
I always consider---what ever I buy as a nice accessory, that someday if I sell the bike, I restore it back to O.E.M. and the shield will get at least half on ebay years down the road.
Now on to finding soft bag side racks.
Will report back on the CalSci shield and wind/buffeting effects if any--- after a good long ride.  Tall guys have tall issues with finding a shield that works for them.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: chumleebonus on July 06, 2014, 04:58:41 PM
Well, here are a few pics.       

 Must be the tallest shield available.
I am pretty happy with the results so far.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: daytripper72 on July 07, 2014, 08:04:05 PM
I made an extension the other day. Took it for a test ride and love it.. wind goes over my head finally. It gets cold here a lot.  Piece of $4 lexan from home depot and a heat gun.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MonsterMars on July 07, 2014, 09:59:16 PM
The CalSci wind screen looks like the Alien head.

Joking aside... if it works, then so be it.  I'm exploring options to reduce wind noise/turbulence as well.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MonsterMars on July 07, 2014, 10:01:25 PM
*Originally Posted by daytripper72 [+]
I made an extension the other day. Took it for a test ride and love it.. wind goes over my head finally. It gets cold here a lot.  Piece of $4 lexan from home depot and a heat gun.

Good tip!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: garciawork on July 12, 2014, 04:38:10 AM
Just went from a Givi to the Calsci myself. 5'9'' and I can now have the visor up on my Shoei GT Air to 60mph (the most I could do on any of my past bikes with an RF1200) without turbulence. The give just wasn't quite tall enough... oh well. Up for sale it goes.

The Calsci is a fantastic screen, my first from them thusfar. No other bike has required it.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MonsterMars on July 12, 2014, 05:04:48 AM
*Originally Posted by garciawork [+]
Just went from a Givi to the Calsci myself. 5'9'' and I can now have the visor up on my Shoei GT Air to 60mph (the most I could do on any of my past bikes with an RF1200) without turbulence. The give just wasn't quite tall enough... oh well. Up for sale it goes.

The Calsci is a fantastic screen, my first from them thus far. No other bike has required it.

If it's not too much to ask, can you post a pic of the two windshields side by side?  I know the Givi is smaller but by how much...  the OEM windscreen just ain't cutting it for me. 

Maybe a Thailand "Puig" windshield, posted below?  Ha.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: chumleebonus on July 12, 2014, 06:09:03 AM
Anybody have the source for the wunderleicht deflector in the USA?

I need just a bit more deflection on top of the CAL-SCI, as 6'4'' is a curse of finding a happy envelope of fairing nirvana.

After a 300 mile ride today, I found by just putting up my hand on top of the fairing, it finally gave that comfortable air flow just to the top of my helmet, and a deflector, that can be turned down in the slower twisties would be nice---as I believe the Wunderleicht would accomplish.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Heavy on July 12, 2014, 02:54:59 PM
*Originally Posted by chumleebonus [+]
Anybody have the source for the wunderleicht deflector in the USA?


GOOGLE is your friend.   :001:

http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/bmw/FEATURED.html (http://www.wunderlichamerica.com/bmw/FEATURED.html)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: chumleebonus on July 12, 2014, 03:20:46 PM
Got it,---will google first, no excuse for playing ignorant anymore...thank you  :430:

Note, cheaper if I buy the product on Amazon, than directly on their site.  That shouldn't be the case, but not going to fight it. :187:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MonsterMars on July 12, 2014, 06:10:18 PM
Or, try the Puig clip-on, $115.51.  Free shipping (in USA).

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-clip-on-windscreen-visor (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/puig-clip-on-windscreen-visor)

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: 500teXas on July 14, 2014, 06:52:19 AM
Anyone else tried rosmoe's 1 1/4" spacer method.  It will be the most economical way to go if results are satisfactory.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on July 21, 2014, 05:27:17 AM
*Originally Posted by 500teXas [+]
Anyone else tried rosmoe's 1 1/4" spacer method.  It will be the most economical way to go if results are satisfactory.
I am 5'8'', I'm still try to find comfortable noise level in about 5 months. I have tried without screen (constantly whistle), screen in lower position - it is noisy, in upper position - it is impossible because claps sound on top of my helmet. I got complete silence inside helmet only when I stand on pegs on any speed (I have tried until 60 mi). I have replaced screen bolts on 35mm long ones and have played with them, I tried to change angle of screen by putting small spacers under lower attachment bolts. Now I ride with 1'' spacers, it's little better than just stock windshield in lower position for me, but now I have noticed that I have begin to catch dust in my eyes from everywhere if I keep a small opening of my visor. I want to cry because I very like this motorcycle and in the same time I hate Honda engineers for the ugly windshield turbulence that killing my ears.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: garciawork on July 21, 2014, 05:32:41 AM
*Originally Posted by ogri [+]
I am 5'8'', I'm still try to find comfortable noise level in about 5 months. I have tried without screen (constantly whistle), screen in lower position - it is noisy, in upper position - it is impossible because claps sound on top of my helmet. I got complete silence inside helmet only when I stand on pegs on any speed (I have tried until 60 mi). I have replaced screen bolts on 35mm long ones and have played with them, I tried to change angle of screen by putting small spacers under lower attachment bolts. Now I ride with 1'' spacers, it's little better than just stock windshield in lower position for me, but now I have noticed that I have begin to catch dust in my eyes from everywhere if I keep a small opening of my visor. I want to cry because I very like this motorcycle and in the same time I hate Honda engineers for the ugly windshield turbulence that killing my ears.

Calsci. I have now used it enough in town and on the freeway at 80mph to say it is perfection. Stock sucked. Givi sucked less. Calsci is perfect. Visor up to 55 no problem, SUPER quiet with the visor down. I am 5'9" on a good day.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: chumleebonus on July 21, 2014, 05:53:36 AM
*Originally Posted by garciawork [+]
Calsci. I have now used it enough in town and on the freeway at 80mph to say it is perfection. Stock sucked. Givi sucked less. Calsci is perfect. Visor up to 55 no problem, SUPER quiet with the visor down. I am 5'9" on a good day.

I am 6'4'', I also have hearing damage, and ringing became worse with all day rides on the CBX, ---now have the Calsci, and have to 'duck' down to get that sweet spot you are talking about. (the curse of finding wind protection, over 6 feet tall).
I held my hand up on top of the calsci fairing to see if a few more inches of deflection would quiet and quell the noise and buffeting, and yes, just a bit higher.
I ordered the Wunderlich Deflector, and arrived, but mis-completed my order and sent me a 'smoke' tint, instead of the clear plainly ordered.
I am working toward the comfort zone, I finally got on my Past V-strom 1000, with a tall screen with 'LAMINAR LIP' attachments.
I rode a solid month up to Alaska, and explored Canada, so a 6000 mile trip is worth fairing 'due/diligence.   
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: garciawork on July 21, 2014, 05:58:31 AM
Being short certainly has its advantages at times I must say... Calsci only offers this screen in "Medium" as well. I am sure if they had a tall or XL it may suit you, but I am not sure the CB500X has enough 6 foot plus riders in its demographics to convince them to make a bigger one... Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: garciawork on July 21, 2014, 05:59:35 AM
*Originally Posted by MonsterMars [+]
If it's not too much to ask, can you post a pic of the two windshields side by side?  I know the Givi is smaller but by how much...  the OEM windscreen just ain't cutting it for me. 

Maybe a Thailand "Puig" windshield, posted below?  Ha.

Sorry, I missed this. It looks like I will be able to figure out how to upload an image, so I will try to go out to the garage and snap a few pics in a little bit.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: chumleebonus on July 21, 2014, 06:17:39 AM
*Originally Posted by garciawork [+]
Being short certainly has its advantages at times I must say... Calsci only offers this screen in "Medium" as well. I am sure if they had a tall or XL it may suit you, but I am not sure the CB500X has enough 6 foot plus riders in its demographics to convince them to make a bigger one... Unfortunately.

Yes, when ordering, I questioned them about calling their 'MEDIUM'---which is the largest made.
Here is a picture of calsci's 'medium', and my goodness, I couldn't imagine how anything larger would fit on the bike.
I wish they offered this unit with a 'final' upturned lip, as I believe it may have saved me from buying the 'Wunderlich' deflector.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on July 21, 2014, 02:33:32 PM
 :435: Garciawork  as for a shortage of over 6ft riders for the 500 x there are 4 on this forum in the  last 24 hours  it is a great bike for tall bikers. and being tall also has it advantages  :013: :023:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on July 22, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
*Originally Posted by chumleebonus [+]
Yes, when ordering, I questioned them about calling their 'MEDIUM'---which is the largest made.
Here is a picture of calsci's 'medium', and my goodness, I couldn't imagine how anything larger would fit on the bike.
From your second picture I have understood CalSci is too huge for this small bike. It is looks like alien head from "Aliens" movie with Sigourney Weaver 1986.

Yesterday I have removed any spacers and return my stock screen in it factory lower position, have ride 40 mi and realize it is best what I can get. I'm looking for way to test ride naked CB500F because both of my helmets are working in the clear air like charm.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on July 22, 2014, 09:37:05 PM
ogri:

You can remove the windscreen and ride with just the braces to get a pretty good idea of what the bike is like with no windscreen.  I did that before cutting the braces off of my X.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/gifs/old.gif) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/gifs/old.gif.html)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Heavy on July 22, 2014, 11:29:27 PM
*Originally Posted by ogri [+]
I am 5'8'', I'm still try to find comfortable noise level in about 5 months. I have tried without screen (constantly whistle), screen in lower position - it is noisy, in upper position - it is impossible because claps sound on top of my helmet. I got complete silence inside helmet only when I stand on pegs on any speed (I have tried until 60 mi).,,I very like this motorcycle and in the same time I hate Honda engineers for the ugly windshield turbulence that killing my ears.

Are you wearing ear plugs?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on July 23, 2014, 09:06:42 PM
*Originally Posted by jsonder [+]
You can remove the windscreen and ride with just the braces to get a pretty good idea of what the bike is like
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/gifs/old.gif) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/gifs/old.gif.html)
Yes, it was a first idea after I stood on the pegs and hear nothing only silence inside my helmet. But after unscrewing windscreen I have got whistle sound constantly. cb500x have dashboard fairing that will work as windshield if you remove yours and it will throw air flow accurate to underneath your helmet and top of your neck. It is impossible to make true naked woman bike from X. I'll try to put screen almost horizontal to cut airflow coming from dashboard fairing and if it will work I will think next how to make it nice viewed and not to break bikes view.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on July 23, 2014, 09:52:27 PM
*Originally Posted by Heavy [+]
Are you wearing ear plugs?
Yes, I'm wearing, but only for rare highway trips. Every day I ride about 20mi. in the environment of regular city traffic (30-50mph) with frequent stop and starts.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on July 23, 2014, 10:28:18 PM
ogri:

I'm surprised that you had that result.  My tests had standing and sitting almost identical with the windshield off.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: cb500 on August 06, 2014, 09:46:46 PM
Yo folks

bought the bike two weeks ago and just had the 1000 km/600 mile service done. Bike runs smooth als silk, ridiculously low fuel consumption. Everything's great except for the fairing/screen. So I'm in the process of experimenting with different screen scenarios/solutions.

I'm 6 feet, 33" inseam, 240 pounds and use a HJC FG-15 helmet, which is one of the quieter helmets I've tried, except for some Schuberth/BMW models that were 3x the price.

I also have to mention that I test rode the oil/water BMW R1200GS, Yamaha 1200 Super Tenere, Honda Crosstourer, Yamaha FJR 1300, Harley Street Glide etc. this year and that - to my surprise - the noise and buffeting has been pretty dreadful with any of those models and the stock screen.

Anyway, here's the stuff I've tried to date on the CB500X (always related to my size/gear etc.):

A) original Honda screen

too much noise and buffeting both in the high and low position from about 50 mph up. 

- Low more noise than high
- High a bit quieter than low but more buffeting

Only bearable with earplugs if you want to eat miles at 75 - 85 mph or faster, but still tiresome after a while.


B) original Honda Screen & MRA X-creen sport spoiler

Improvements in both the Hi and Lo position compared to the stock screen alone. Still some noise and buffeting. Also, it really takes some time/miles to try the countless positions. If you try too many positions in a row it starts to get confusing which one you liked the best after a while.

C) Original Honda Screen & MRA spoiler & longer bolt/spacer mod

Best result so far. Similar to B) but with reduced buffeting.

Beware that it's fiddly as heck to mount. Those four original Honda rubber washer/nut grommets that you slide into the bracket do pop out all the time.
The longer the bolts, the fiddlier it gets. Optimally, you'd have to drill new holes into the screen to adapt for the angle increase due the longer bolts. So it's limited due the bolt length.

I've tried half an inch yesterday. Will retry with circa an inch the next days.

That's it so far.

Cheers
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: pmartin on August 08, 2014, 07:29:37 PM
Hi,
I am 6 ft 1' 33" leg. I love my X but the buffeting was horrendous. I was at the point where I didn't even want to go over 50 mph.

I tired moving the stock screen up and down (no effect). I added washers as suggested in earlier posts and that helped in that there was limited buffering up to 50 mph.
I then bought the Givi windshield and fitted that on the high setting. Having that on the bike helped me get to 60 mph with no buffeting. Finally after doing a lot of research and reading the posts on this site I purchased the Wunderlich wind deflector and fitted that on the high setting. AT LAST! I can take the bike above 70 mph and no buffeting. Success!

Annoying really, I mean this is Honda right, a multi billion $ company. They don't have access to a wind tunnel when they build a new bike?????

One last point I absolutely understand that being on a motorcycle is not like being in a car. I expect the wind to hit me, I even enjoy it. Buffeting is a very different experience and not a pleasant one!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Jumpdawg on August 09, 2014, 02:16:50 AM
Alot has to do with your heigth...Im 5-8 ordered Honda taller windscreen and at lowest setting and have been very pleased at speeds under 60 mph. My bike changes into a different animal above 62 mph harmonics or something????? I wear a Shoei Cruiser helmet with the face guard not sealed at bottom....less turbelance and still keeps the bugs out of my teeth...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mikestib1 on September 09, 2014, 07:13:15 PM
I too got poor results from the Laminar lip. Madstad has their adjustable angle/heighth windshield available now and I'm ordering one today. Enough fooling around!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: chumleebonus on September 09, 2014, 09:57:46 PM
If you are tall, the large CALIF/SCI. screen, and on top of that, a PUIG deflector.  I am happy with adjustability and reasonable quiet now.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bgagnon on September 10, 2014, 03:45:16 AM
*Originally Posted by mikestib1 [+]
I too got poor results from the Laminar lip. Madstad has their adjustable angle/heighth windshield available now and I'm ordering one today. Enough fooling around!

Could you please post your results with the Madstad. It look like a great option
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on September 10, 2014, 10:16:32 PM
*Originally Posted by mikestib1 [+]
I too got poor results from the Laminar lip. Madstad has their adjustable angle/heighth windshield available now and I'm ordering one today. Enough fooling around!

mikestib1!
We all are waiting for your report. How much it cost and how it is effective. I am waiting madstad for creating their screen for cb500x for about 6 months and now they made it. It looks much beter than stock one on photos, but how it will be in a real life.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on September 11, 2014, 01:44:45 AM
I also have ordered one of these and cost was AUD $334 with 18" screen so I am guessing about US $300. Video below is of an Australian who did a wind test. Wasn't on an X, but will give you a general idea. Be a few weeks before I get it, but will post results after I install it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AruT1PnI-8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AruT1PnI-8)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on September 11, 2014, 09:48:48 PM
*Originally Posted by ngling [+]
I also have ordered one of these and cost was AUD $334 with 18" screen so I am guessing about US $300.

How tall you are? 18" is it not too big for this bike? I am 5'8'' tall.
From their charts for other bikes I saw 18'' for 5'9'', 20'' for 6'1'', for short riders it will be a 16'', I really don't understand from their description is it comes with windscreen or just brackets and side deflectors? I have phoned to them but nobody answered me :(
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on September 11, 2014, 10:59:55 PM
I am 5' 7". I just took a guess at what size screen to get. I figured that being short, the 18" would probably the best for me. I also based it on the stock screen which is about 4" shorter. I don't think you can get a 16" screen for the X. The system comes with the screen and 2 brackets. If you already have a Madstad screen, you can get the brackets only, but I am not sure if the screen is interchangeable between different bikes. Not aware of any side deflectors. If they exist, they may be extra.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on September 11, 2014, 11:20:06 PM
*Originally Posted by ngling [+]
I am 5' 7". I just took a guess at what size screen to get. I figured that being short, the 18" would probably the best for me. I also based it on the stock screen which is about 4" shorter. I don't think you can get a 16" screen for the X. The system comes with the screen and 2 brackets. If you already have a Madstad screen, you can get the brackets only, but I am not sure if the screen is interchangeable between different bikes. Not aware of any side deflectors. If they exist, they may be extra.
I just talked to the owner of Madstad the other day. They will make you a 16", the side deflectors come with the kit including the screen brackets. The brackets will not allow the fitting of the stock CBX screen. I'm planning on riding down there to try the screen before I buy. Also you can choose the shade of tint you want. I'm 5'6" and we decided a 16" would be good for me.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on September 16, 2014, 09:13:44 PM
Please don't laugh. I took windshield sizes from Madstad site. They offered for my height 18'' windshield. I cut exact the same size and shape of windshield from a carton board, set it up on my bike and I have got tons of the claps on my helmet from 30mph. On their site I have found what optimum angle for their screen is between 55 and 60 degree. I have downloaded android angle meter app, have installed screen about 60 degree. The same result, buffeting is too worse. With stock screen I have only strong wind noise in my helmet but I can't hear any wind with "madstad" because my head is clapping with buffeting.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bgagnon on September 18, 2014, 03:16:32 AM
*Originally Posted by ogri [+]
Please don't laugh. I took windshield sizes from Madstad site. They offered for my height 18'' windshield. I cut exact the same size and shape of windshield from a carton board, set it up on my bike and I have got tons of the claps on my helmet from 30mph. On their site I have found what optimum angle for their screen is between 55 and 60 degree. I have downloaded android angle meter app, have installed screen about 60 degree. The same result, buffeting is too worse. With stock screen I have only strong wind noise in my helmet but I can't hear any wind with "madstad" because my head is clapping with buffeting.

Ogri,

Were you also able to simulate the distance between windshield and front of the bike? Since Madstad have their own bracket. They have a grater distance between the front and windshield and I think it make a huge difference in buffeting.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on September 18, 2014, 10:36:49 PM
*Originally Posted by bgagnon [+]
Were you also able to simulate the distance between windshield and front of the bike? Since Madstad have their...

No, I am not able to build brackets for this quick test. But I know about this. I tried to move back on the seat to simulate distance between my head and windshield. No effect.

I am waiting for happy reports from somebody who already bought madstad screen for X.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mikestib1 on September 18, 2014, 11:19:19 PM
Order the Madstad windshield from their website based on your heighth. If you are not satisfied, they will take it back. Using cardboard is crazy. Their products work as far as I can tell from various buyers on many forums
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on September 19, 2014, 01:15:42 AM
The flaw in your little experiment is that you also need to reproduce the gap that the Madstad brackets create. This gap allows air to flow under the shield and up behind it which reduces the vacuum produced and allows air to shoot up over the rider rather than being sucked down causing turbulence.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on September 19, 2014, 03:59:19 AM
 DON't knock the guy for trying makers use mock ups first. And cheaper than buying and it not working.
 :084:
Title: Re: Windshield Options Laminar lip
Post by: mikestib1 on September 23, 2014, 06:04:25 PM
Ended up raising the stock windscreen to the highest position the applying the laminar lip so that it's top edge was even with the stock shield. No longer feel like I'm a sail in the wind! Not much helmet noise with ear plugs. No helmet turbulence at 65. Popped off for a comparison with stock and great improvement for $89. Will post pic later. At first I applied it 2" above the stock shield and found it noisy.
I'm 5' 11"
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EdoX on September 24, 2014, 05:06:07 PM
*Originally Posted by rosmoe [+]
Think I will hang on to my Givi Screen, got it just right after much adjustments.  Have on the lowest setting, seems to work a lot better.
So, after several months of use, what is your opinion about the GIVI screen ?
I'm thinking to buy it (1.80m - 5.9' tall).
Thank you
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rvall on September 24, 2014, 05:57:52 PM
Just got this V-Stream Sport/Touring screen from National Cycle:
http://shop.nationalcycle.com/perl/cycle/large_photo?mv_session_id=MhGPXDdb&mv_arg=N20046&search_model=hd-157 (http://shop.nationalcycle.com/perl/cycle/large_photo?mv_session_id=MhGPXDdb&mv_arg=N20046&search_model=hd-157)

I'm 6' 1" and this is a great improvement over the OEM windscreen.
Here's my bike...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on September 25, 2014, 08:57:33 PM
strange... so many people have bought madstad and nobody wrote about happy result, may be madstad send agreement to keep silence when you are using their product :-) I read on advrider - madstad is good, but you will be roasted in the summer time. I live in Miami and when summer is over then begins a new summer-swimming season and so on... As I understand, the all motorcycling forums activity will go down until next summer in the world and I need to invest money in the own test of the madstad effectiveness.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on September 26, 2014, 06:16:42 AM
Contrary to what you might think, it is not winter all over the world. Southern hemisphere is moving into its summer months so there will always be people contributing to the forums. Aside from that, you can ride all year round in a lot of regions. As far as overheating with a Madstad screen, you just change the angle or height to get more wind on your helmet or body. There are plenty of reviews for this windscreen, although not for the X as these have only just been developed recently. Just do an internet search.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on September 26, 2014, 02:19:08 PM
 ok  I have been riding motor bikes for over 50 years with wind and rain and the last 10 years being very hot most of the year I can not understand why a bit of wind is so much of a problem why its all part of riding a bike I am 6.3in and have no  problem with the stock screen' doc.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on September 26, 2014, 04:15:17 PM
I know what you mean Doc. I've been riding for 45 years (legally) and love the wind in my face. I had to cut down the wind screen on my Kawasaki Concours because it blocked the wind too much.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on September 27, 2014, 05:00:15 AM
*Originally Posted by crazy doctor [+]
ok  I have been riding motor bikes for over 50 years with wind and rain and the last 10 years being very hot most of the year I can not understand why a bit of wind is so much of a problem why its all part of riding a bike I am 6.3in and have no  problem with the stock screen' doc.
I believe you are right, I have only a 10 months of riding experience, but a BIT of wind? May be when you are riding once a week in Thailand's mountains where air is fresh, clean and has a low pressure and your speed is less than 40 mph then yes, a bit of wind. In case of everyday riding in the busy city with many short jumps through highway, I can say, you will get a lot of wind and dirty turbulent air from the thousand of trucks, SUVs, pickups and vans. I have never rode with effective screen and this is a reason why I am waiting for any (good or bad) reports from madstad users. If it was a real "bit of wind" it is not problem at all. One day I feel fun and comfort, second day a lot of winds from the ocean and I am like a sail after 20 minutes feel a strange whistle noises in my ears after arriving at work.

After all of your comments, I think I have bought a wrong helmet. I like wind in my face too but after 35-40mph the love is over and I close my helmet and hear only wind noise it is cool for 15 minutes but after 40 it is became a little boring
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mikestib1 on September 27, 2014, 12:09:40 PM
Wind in your face is great under 60 mph for an hour but at 70 mph on the interstate and passing 18 wheelers tires me out after 100 miles. By the way I've owned 40 bikes and ridden for 49 years. A good helmet and ear plugs are the first step. Windshields can help keeping the wind off your upper body but often increase wind noise. Below 45 degrees, some wind protection lets you ride year round, without freezing.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on September 27, 2014, 03:21:30 PM
after 49 years the wind is still a problem wow.? why
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mikestib1 on September 27, 2014, 04:22:41 PM
Guess you need to be right. Thought I was clear on the why. You win
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: maXimillian on September 27, 2014, 05:15:31 PM
*Originally Posted by crazy doctor [+]
after 49 years the wind is still a problem wow.? why

As a doctor, if you really are a med, you should know better.
1. Not everybody has the same preferences
2. Steady noise can lead to tinnitus and reduced hearing

Are you trying to tell us we are whimps, cause we are discussings screens ?  Would you ask the owner of a Goldwing why he doesnt buy a car instead ?
Of the many bikes I owned, there were only two with (tiny) screens. The TDM850 and the X. Before the windnoise never was a problem for me. But having ridden some rented bikes with great wind protection I finally know what Im looking for.
It makes a big difference for me to ride 600 km a day with or without wind noise and unpleasant buffeting.
And spare us from that better-buy-a-car when most of us have a car besides the mc anyway.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dukie on September 27, 2014, 09:14:29 PM
Screen all the way in my book. More comfy and less fatiguing. I dont like.being a kite when im trying to enjoy riding.  I also need it to kwep warm at -8c at 4am on the way to work.

I cannot understand why, in a country with as rubbish weather as the UK people tjay choose to ride unfaired/nakes bikes or those with poor wind protection
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on September 27, 2014, 10:30:42 PM
 Maximillian  To answer your? yes  I am a doctor and no I not saying a you or any one is a wimp just that I don't find the wind a problem I wear ear plugs.and it seems by spending a lot of money on screens that  don't work that well. you still get wind noise.And its just a part of riding a motorbike sorry no offence ment,And as for the price of a Goldwing you could buy a car.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on September 28, 2014, 10:51:52 AM
Tried the stock screen on the lowest setting today. Not a lot of difference, but maybe less buffeting. Certainly, turbulence from passing trucks was significantly less. I am 172 cm (5' 7").
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Muttley on September 28, 2014, 03:02:13 PM
*Originally Posted by crazy doctor [+]
Maximillian  To answer your? yes  I am a doctor and no I not saying a you or any one is a wimp just that I don't find the wind a problem I wear ear plugs.and it seems by spending a lot of money on screens that  don't work that well. you still get wind noise.And its just a part of riding a motorbike sorry no offence ment,And as for the price of a Goldwing you could buy a car.

You have my permission to call me a whimp if you like Doc, but wind noise is a big factor for me as I have suffered from tinnitus for some years (before I bought my X), and I don't want it to get worse. I would advise others to try to limit wind noise as much as possible to avoid this problem. Other than that I am quite happy to have the wind blowing through what hair I have left  :121:
M
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on October 03, 2014, 07:23:42 PM
ok, boys and girls, lady and gentlemen. I have received madstad screen yesterday. I have rode 3 times couple of hours and did 12 adjustments and still can't find "sweet spot". It has so much buffeting. Today we have 91°F and I almost wet arrived at work after lunch. This is not usual with stock wind shield. Tonight I will give madstad last chance but right now I am not believe what something will change.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on October 03, 2014, 10:30:10 PM
orgi, what height did you get?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Heavy on October 04, 2014, 02:10:39 AM
*Originally Posted by ogri [+]
ok, boys and girls, lady and gentlemen. I have received madstad screen yesterday. I have rode 3 times couple of hours and did 12 adjustments and still can't find "sweet spot". It has so much buffeting. Today we have 91°F and I almost wet arrived at work after lunch. This is not usual with stock wind shield. Tonight I will give madstad last chance but right now I am not believe what something will change.

I have a MadStad on my V-Strom.  Eventually, I ended up with an additional 1/4" of spacers between the MadStad and the bottom of my windshield.  It was almost there but it took my, custom, vortex generators to make it really good.  You can see, in the picture below, how the added spacers under the front have laid my windscrren back.  You can also see the vortex generators on the side panels, below the handlebars.  They just break up he airflow enough that the airflow around the cockpit works.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i338.photobucket.com/albums/n412/Strommin_2008/August%201/ferryStrom.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Heavy on October 04, 2014, 02:20:00 AM
You can see both in this picture as well.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i338.photobucket.com/albums/n412/Strommin_2008/July%2016/Strom.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ogri on October 04, 2014, 03:19:50 AM
*Originally Posted by Dave1899 [+]
orgi, what height did you get?
I am 5'8''. I have received 18'' screen as suggested by madstad.
I got new experience about madstad tonight. It will be a negative report. If madstad is working for you please don't read this, because it is all personal.
After work I rode in conditions from light to medium rain.
I have decided to send it back. It awesome system does not work on me. Crazy doctor, you won, I am with your sect of naked bikes.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on October 04, 2014, 03:53:33 AM
Sorry to hear the bad report but glad I didn't ride down there to pick one up.  :156: I put my stock screen on the low setting and am pleased with it.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: brownclown on October 08, 2014, 02:48:53 AM
I'm going to use my stock screen to start a dumpster fire
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on October 08, 2014, 02:36:24 PM
 Ogri I won't be riding for a while but sorry the screen does not work for you some of us have the wind problem I am lucky it does not worry me and I have been  riding bikes for 50 plus years as a hobby  do as I do wear ear plugs and you will not have a problem- with your ears  good luck doc.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on October 08, 2014, 08:51:52 PM
I wonder if all this talk about windscreens is because of modern helmet design? My helmet from 40 years ago was all white, not stylish but smooth with no vent holes or anti fog devices. We wiped a bit of raw potato on the visor to stop it fogging up. But it was quiet. My current helmet has 3 adjustable vents and an internal sun visor all contributing to noise. For example I notice less noise when the sun visor is down compared to when its up. Its a Shark Vision-R and I ride with the stock screen on high position. I wish I still had my old helmet to try by way of comparison!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Macca on October 08, 2014, 11:33:49 PM
I think Tas is on the right track with his comments about hemet design playing a part in the wind noise/buffeting so many people experience.  For the record I don't have a problem on the X with a standard screen on the low setting but I'm only 5 foot 9.  I have four helmets available to me and changing from one to another makes a big difference to the wind noise and aerodynamics.  My normal helmet a Shoei is the best for me and one of the others an RXT is an absolute shocker for noise.  With the Shoei I put a bluetooth intercom on it and that made the noise levels worse, not a lot but it was noticeable.  I also think there is more to it than just the windscreen alone affecting the airflow.  Anything in front of the rider and in the airstream is going to have some effect so the shape of mirrors, the sides of the fairing and anything hanging of the handlebars will all interact with the airflow from the screen and have some sort of effect.  Combine this with the different sizes of riders and different helmets styles and I don't think there is going to be any one size fits all type solution. 

Just my 2c worth.

Iain
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on October 09, 2014, 06:33:11 AM
Installed a Madstad screen and wind deflectors today despite Ogri's negative report as I had already ordered it. I can't comment on the rain issue as no rain in the near future, but went for a 30 km highway run with speeds ranging from 80 - 115 kmh. There is still wind flow with the screen at 600 and the lowest setting, but it is a lot calmer than with the stock screen. Seems to also have eliminated turbulence from passing trucks and reduced the effect of crosswinds. Wind is actually hitting the top of my helmet (I am 5' 7"), but is not really buffeting as air flow is fairly steady. I could probably get rid of this on a higher setting, but I prefer some wind for cooling. Still a bit of wind noise, but I use ear plugs so it doesn't bother me. I can't see rain on the screen being a problem as my eye line is above it, but may be an issue if I raised the screen. As far as rain on the visor, it is not a huge issue as it is easy enough to wipe it off with a glove or I could change the angle so that wind hits my visor. I will have to wait for a rainy day to see if these issues are significant. My take on all of this is that you need to try the screen yourself as what might be intolerable to one person is quite acceptable to another. I will be taking the bike for a 500 km run tomorrow and will post my final verdict.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on October 10, 2014, 12:07:50 PM
Final verdict on Madstad screen. Did a 570 km trip and screen worked really well on lowest setting and 600. Tested where wind was hitting me. Hits me on top third of visor and can also feel it either side of screen on my arms. No wind at all to front of upper body. No real buffeting and a comfortable ride even at 150 kmh. Turbulence from passing trucks was minimal. Encountered fairly heavy cross winds for the last 50 km. Pushed the bike around a bit, but did not really feel it on my body. Was really noisy however, but not unbearable, at least for me. I did notice that the wind deflectors rubbed off some paint on the fairings where they make contact. Tape should fix this. Overall, I am happy with the result.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: maXimillian on October 10, 2014, 02:49:16 PM
Hi ngling, good you are happy with the madstad system.
I find there are winds and sounds coming out of that space infront of the tank. I've never had that on one of the other bikes I ever rode. When I stand up at 100 kmh or more I don't hear that sound from there anymore.
Are the deflectors cutting this out ?
When I asked Madstad, they said they would only sell the complete set, brackets, screen and deflectors.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: BfloNY on October 10, 2014, 10:54:33 PM
My wife got me the CalSci windscreen for my birthday which I put on the highest setting. I am 6'1.5" with a 33 inseam. I think it is a nice improvement with much less buffeting.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on October 11, 2014, 03:41:12 AM
*Originally Posted by maXimillian [+]
Hi ngling, good you are happy with the madstad system.
I find there are winds and sounds coming out of that space infront of the tank. I've never had that on one of the other bikes I ever rode. When I stand up at 100 kmh or more I don't hear that sound from there anymore.
Are the deflectors cutting this out ?
When I asked Madstad, they said they would only sell the complete set, brackets, screen and deflectors.

I don't notice the wind that comes from the gap. I can only feel it if I put my hand very close to the screen. As for noise, I don't think it is coming from the gap. Appears to be more due to wind going past either side of helmet. For me, it does not get really noisy except in strong cross winds. Possibly due to the deflectors, but I couldn't say for sure.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rosmoe on October 11, 2014, 07:10:53 PM
Helps reduce the turbulence a lot by putting these spacers in.  Cut up the hose into 1 1/4" lengths & set the Givi Tall screen to its lowest setting.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on October 14, 2014, 09:17:42 AM
Im tall, around 6' 3.5" and have always ridden with my stock screen on the tallest setting and put up with the helmet noise. I rode the other day in my 3/4 open face helmet for the 1st time on the X and it was really noisy. So I tried lowering the screen to the bottom of the top settings ie about 2cm or so lower. I suddenly got a lot of head buffeting that I didnt really have before. So I have lowered to the proper low setting and now noise and buffeting seem almost gone!. Im a retired commercial pilot and considering the aerodynamics I am thinking the stock screen angle is too steep causing a lot of turbulent air behind it. Im wondering if those who add spacers to the bottom to reduce the screens angle are onto something. But it all also depends on how tall you are and what helmet you have. Im going to try my low setting for a while and add spacers as a next test. Im too much of a cheap skate to buy a new screen or spoiler.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: maXimillian on October 15, 2014, 05:58:54 AM
Tas, before experimenting with spacers, have a test ride without the screen. That's what works best for me.
But I'm a shorty of 170 cm.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: KBNH on October 23, 2014, 10:22:26 PM
I am new to windsheilds on motorcycles since I have only owned dirt bikes and a TU250, so forgive my ignorance. This thread is very interesting to me because I am all about longer rides and eventually plan on traveling across the US (Miami to LA and up the pacific coast) on my CB500X. One of the first accessories recommended to me by my buddies is to get a taller windscreen. I noticed the biggest issue people are talking about is buffeting. I looked this up and found the definition to be "irregular oscillating due to turbulence". I imagine this buffeting everyone speaks of is the same as when you lower only one window in a car while at speed. That annoying thudding sound. Is that what is being referred to?

I currently have the stock windshield at the high setting and have not had a "thudding", even while adjusting my position at 50-60mph in order to induce said buffeting. I wear a Nolan N104 and am 6 feet tall. There is definitely turbulence around my torso, but no annoying sound other than air passing around my helmet, which I am used to.

Finally, I like the look of the OEM honda tall windscreen above the others. Is anyone happy with a Honda Tall Windscreen?

Thanks and sorry for the ignorance,
-Nick
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MonsterMars on October 23, 2014, 11:12:50 PM
But, the OEM Honda tall windscreen costs around $200.

You can get all sorts of "taller" windscreens for less costs.  I have the GIVI screen and it works for me.  (I'm 5'10" and wear a NOLAN N44 helmet).  It cost me $100 used.  Puig offers a similiar tall windscreen for around $99.  Other brands have already been mentioned on this board.  Just a thought... but best of luck to ya.   :821:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on October 24, 2014, 04:48:11 AM
If you are happy with the stock screen then dont change it! A lot depends on how tall you are especially torso and helmet you use. You can end up paying for a tall screen that creates helmet noise and head buffeting. Having said that if you do go taller, I wouldnt go Honda as you are paying a lot of money for only a few inches extra height. You may be able to simulate that height by placing your left hand on top of the small screen whilst under way (when no traffic around!). Givi are good and the tallest seems to be the Calsci though its pricy. Another problem with going a tall screen is more difficult handling in cross winds; I live in a windy part of the world so know about that which is a reason Im sticking to the stock screen for the moment.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on October 24, 2014, 10:36:22 AM
At 6f 3in I don't have any problems with the stock screen.save your money most after market screens don't work that well .as a rider in the 60s most bikes did not have screens  so maybe I am used to it a good helmet and ear plugs works wonders. doc
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: KBNH on October 24, 2014, 03:03:15 PM
Thanks for the recommendations. I think I will stick to the stock screen for now.

So is the buffeting described here the same noise as when you open just one car window at speed? A loud "thudding" noise?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on October 24, 2014, 03:37:51 PM
*Originally Posted by KBNH [+]
Thanks for the recommendations. I think I will stick to the stock screen for now.

So is the buffeting described here the same noise as when you open just one car window at speed? A loud "thudding" noise?
I like a little wind in the face  and knowing that trying different windshield is like a crap shoot win some lose some  because what works for one might not work for the other  I will stick with the stock shield  A friend with the same bike 500X thinks different so Givi was tried too much buffeting he ordered the Madstad bracket to go with the Givi it should be in today so he'll give it a try  over the years he has tried so many different shields on so many bikes he could open a E-bay store just with used windshields LOL  so what I'm saying is if you know some others with 500X and they have different shields and you could ride their bike's that would be great if not break out the dice  like Crazy Doctor said good helmet good ear plugs  good ride........
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Macca on October 24, 2014, 09:34:52 PM
*Originally Posted by KBNH [+]
So is the buffeting described here the same noise as when you open just one car window at speed? A loud "thudding" noise?

I think everyone might have there own definition of what is buffeting and how much is acceptable or not.  I think it is how much your head and helmet get knocked around (buffeted) by the wind blast at different speeds along with the amount of wind noise you experience.  As Tas said I think a lot of it depends on the helmet worn , height and a few other factors.  As an experiment take your screen off completely and go for a ride at different speeds up to freeway speed then repeat with the screen back on (or vice versa) and see how much difference you notice.

I don't experience any major buffeting on the X but I'm only 5'9".  I have had a few different bikes over the years that were much worse.

Iain
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: KBNH on October 24, 2014, 10:25:22 PM
Thanks for explaining Iain. I was imagining it more like an on/off situation. I guess, based on what you are saying, buffeting and wind turbulence are exchangeable.

I have been riding a bike with no wind protection at all (TU250) for a few years and on long rides through Florida and the FL Keys so I am used to wind. I wear what I consider to be a nice helmet and ear plugs. The X is much quieter and more comfortable than the TU for me. I do notice turbulence on my torso, but nothing too bad...stock windscreen for now.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Macca on October 25, 2014, 03:16:41 AM
*Originally Posted by KBNH [+]
Thanks for explaining Iain. I was imagining it more like an on/off situation. I guess, based on what you are saying, buffeting and wind turbulence are exchangeable.

Wind turbulence I think pretty much nails it.  It all relates to how the wind is deflected from the windscreen area of the bike and the result this disturbed air has on your head/body IMHO.  It is sort of like when you come up behind a semi trailer or large truck and the whole bike gets buffeted by the dirty air getting displaced behind it. 

Iain
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on October 25, 2014, 04:14:28 AM
Another advantage of staying withe the stock small screen is when riding in the rain the drops dont stay on your visor! A tall screen could get the wind off you but then the drops hang around on your visor needing much wiping.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Grim Rider on October 31, 2014, 08:42:16 AM
Been reading through this thread with interest. After riding a couple of 2-300 mile rides I have found I have no real problem with wind turbulence around my head (6' 2", stock screen) but do find my upper chest gets very cold so am thinking the wind is hitting me there. Have an MRA Vario screen on my GS which works well so may go down this route.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: sunnybankroar on November 11, 2014, 03:43:24 PM
Really happy with the puig windscreen for longer HWY rides and I am 5'11"
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on November 13, 2014, 04:38:08 PM
A member PMed me with a question about the Givi screen on a friends bike  I tried to return the message but it got bounced back so I'll answer it here  The Madstad mounts did not fit the Givi shield so he ordered the complete system with the 20" shield (if you call them they will advise which shield for your height) he loves it-quote it is the best windshield I have ever owned on any bike---so I ended up with the Givi on my bike after a few helmet earplug combos I like it with it mounted on the top mount the air goes over my helmet I'm 5'11"  big different between the up and down mounts   maybe not as good as the $250 Madstad but good enough  you may want to cut a piece of card board 19 1/2" long  (Givi height) and put it up to the stock shield and see if you can look over it  middle of the nose seems to always be best    hope this helps
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mattgibson on January 02, 2015, 11:33:55 AM
After reading this discussion a couple of times I thought I would try longer bolts with spacers before spending money on a larger screen.

I've tried the top position, bottom position and naked, but the best configuration I've found is the upper position, with 20mm spacers on the two lower boots.  This reduces the angle of the screen, and let's in plenty of air below the screen.  50mm bolts were available at the local hardware, and I used the plastic tube from a pen for the spacers.

I'm about 178 cm.  The wind hits me just below the helmet cleanly, with no buffeting.  There is still a bit of noise, mostly originating at the bottom of the helmet, which I'll be able to reduce further with a scarf or collar.  There is much less noise since adding the spacers, and I only get a slight improvement if I stand up.

I'll still use ear plugs for longer trips, and might get a touring screen at some point, but I'm happy for the moment.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mww916 on January 10, 2015, 09:12:06 PM
I wonder if Honda are reading this forum..... some strong customer feedback here.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mikestib1 on January 22, 2015, 05:59:16 PM
You may want to look at Palmer Products, UK based but ship worldwide. They supply adjustable brackets that allow you to raise the stock windshield and also change the angle. Got a set and will install them next week. Very well made and their customer support is great. They shipped mine airmail and got them in 10 days.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on January 22, 2015, 07:43:26 PM
*Originally Posted by mikestib1 [+]
You may want to look at Palmer Products, UK based but ship worldwide. They supply adjustable brackets that allow you to raise the stock windshield and also change the angle. Got a set and will install them next week. Very well made and their customer support is great. They shipped mine airmail and got them in 10 days.

Looks good, can't wait for your review. :210:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on January 23, 2015, 04:25:15 AM
*Originally Posted by mikestib1 [+]
You may want to look at Palmer Products, UK based but ship worldwide. They supply adjustable brackets that allow you to raise the stock windshield and also change the angle. Got a set and will install them next week. Very well made and their customer support is great. They shipped mine airmail and got them in 10 days.
When you fit them please post pictures and if they do any good   I guess they work like the Bruudt brackets
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on February 28, 2015, 10:02:18 AM
Im summarizing touring windscreens here, ignoring screen shorter than the Givi such as Ermax or Tall Honda screen both only 3 inches higher than stock. Feel free to add to my list or correct any errors:

Height over stock in Inches, Price ex postage, Acryllic or Polycarbonate

  H       $    AP
6.3  121.5      Givi D1121ST
6.5  120         Puig Vario
7.0  250    P    Madstad (including side fairing screens)
8.0  207    P    NationalCycle
11   185    A   CalSci

So being 6'3" tall Im leaning to the CalSci if I do decide to get a taller screen. At moment Im on the stock screen on low setting. Im guessing the Givi and Puig are Acryllc but not sure.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on February 28, 2015, 11:08:08 AM
Madstad comes in 2 sizes, 18 inch and 22 inch, but I think they will make other sizes if you ask them.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on February 28, 2015, 11:17:09 AM
18 or 20 inch according to the Madstad website so I took the 20 as being 7 over the stock 13inch height.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on March 01, 2015, 04:50:46 AM
*Originally Posted by mikestib1 [+]
You may want to look at Palmer Products, UK based but ship worldwide. They supply adjustable brackets that allow you to raise the stock windshield and also change the angle. Got a set and will install them next week. Very well made and their customer support is great. They shipped mine airmail and got them in 10 days.
So what happened to your review
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on March 01, 2015, 08:45:16 AM
Sound off i have been riding motor cycles since the 60s and when you ride a bike you get wind. o  dear i have to spend lots of money to change the  windscreens bullsh#te  i have never changed a screen for years if you can not put up with a wind noise buy a car wind in your hair is all about riding motor cycles i know i will get some flack for saying this but if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Get a good helmet and a set of ear plugs problem solved and most of the windscreens posted by members don't seem to work.doc :192:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tonto on March 01, 2015, 09:28:23 AM
*Originally Posted by crazy doctor [+]
Sound off i have been riding motor cycles since the 60s and when you ride a bike you get wind. o  dear i have to spend lots of money to change the  windscreens bullsh#te  i have never changed a screen for years if you can not put up with a wind noise buy a car wind in your hair is all about riding motor cycles i know i will get some flack for saying this but if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. Get a good helmet and a set of ear plugs problem solved and most of the windscreens posted by members don't seem to work.doc :192:

Gotta say Doc, right up till I got this X, (Aug last year, there about) I would have agreed with you 110% mate. I've mainly ridden dirt bikes, so no screen to worry about there! But my last road bike was Aprilia Tuono 1000, I lived in North Wales and rode the crap out of that thing, no screen.

But, I put a taller 'Givi' screen on this X......Sorry to say but, 'I likey'......I do wear a motocross helmet though, (that visor does grab hand-fulls of wind)
Have to say as well mate, I never liked the idea of hydraulic disc brakes or full suspension for mountain bikes till I tried them.....and Heated grips.....The stuff of Katoys..lol......Till I tried them, (back in the UK of course, put a set on my last bike there)

So, bottom line, I'm on the fence a little on this, I do tend to do more longer rides here and the screen is good, but if I was still doing Sunday blast and stop type riding, I wouldn't bother. But be careful with the never say never.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on March 01, 2015, 11:10:51 AM
Fair comment Tonto but i go to bike meetings all over Thailand on the the x and now the 650f with a small screen and its no problem at 6f .3in tall but i will pass on the heated grips doc . :002:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Grim Rider on March 01, 2015, 11:12:32 AM
*Originally Posted by Tas [+]
Im summarizing touring windscreens here, ignoring screen shorter than the Givi such as Ermax or Tall Honda screen both only 3 inches higher than stock. Feel free to add to my list or correct any errors:

Height over stock in Inches, Price ex postage, Acryllic or Polycarbonate

  H       $    AP
6.3  121.5      Givi D1121ST
6.5  120         Puig Vario
7.0  250    P    Madstad (including side fairing screens)
8.0  207    P    NationalCycle
11   185    A   CalSci

So being 6'3" tall Im leaning to the CalSci if I do decide to get a taller screen. At moment Im on the stock screen on low setting. Im guessing the Givi and Puig are Acryllc but not sure.

MRA Vario -- will measure it next time I am in garage, but best screens I have used (third bike I have fitted one to); cost me £89 inc. postage

as here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MRA-Honda-CB500X-2013-onwards-Adjustable-Vario-Touring-Screen-Grey-/321671061718?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ae516e0d6 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MRA-Honda-CB500X-2013-onwards-Adjustable-Vario-Touring-Screen-Grey-/321671061718?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4ae516e0d6)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: VKnid on March 01, 2015, 01:02:10 PM
I've had two rides with the National Cycle VStream Touring and love it. The stock shield threw turbulent and LOUD air right at the side of the helmet. Ear plugs helped, but if I stood up there was no noise, so I blame the stock shield. This touring shield is dead quiet. I think it will work great for winter and long distance riding. Will probably try no shield or moving the stock sheild down with the two top mounting holes on the lowest bracket in the summer.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Muttley on March 01, 2015, 01:37:04 PM
+1 for the MRA Vario. No buffeting. Some wind noise, but earplugs sort it.
M
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: VKnid on March 01, 2015, 02:27:12 PM
*Originally Posted by crazy doctor [+]
Fair comment Tonto but i go to bike meetings all over Thailand on the the x and now the 650f with a small screen and its no problem at 6f .3in tall but i will pass on the heated grips doc . :002:

Doc, do you think that your height might be giving you an advantage? With a short or no screen, your helmet probably stays up in the clean air, while us vertically challenged are down in the turbulence?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: andybeeone on March 01, 2015, 02:58:18 PM
Doc I'm with you, it's a bike, you WILL get affected by airflow.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: slug on March 21, 2015, 12:35:48 PM
I've just added a small spoiler to mine like the top part of a mra screen, transformed the bike instead of getting the howling noise above 40mph now I get a smooth airflow sound, by the way I stilll use earplugs, got it off fleabay for £45 and to me looks ok on the bike.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on March 21, 2015, 09:04:13 PM
Not being as tall as doc (5'6") I found that removing the windscreen and braces worked well for me. 

I am in a less warm climate than doc, but, it is still arid and year-round riding, so I'm fine with no windscreen and unheated grips.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: fabio on April 10, 2015, 05:33:55 PM
I mounted the Givi, but I'm not happy with it. It feel a lot of buffeting shacking my helmet from about 80km/h and above. I also succeeded in reducing the turbolence by:
1) moving the screen to the lower position
2) rising the two lower bolts using two spacers (about 2cm tall) to allow clean air to flow even behind the screen.
(By the way, I find the screen to be too high and uncomfortable even for watching at the road if installed in the upper position, so I would install it in the lower position anyway).
I'm about 180cm tall.
However, I guess the wrong shape of the Givi could be the source of turbolence. Looking at the screen from the side, it is shaped the opposite way of the stock one. That is, while stock is more "vertical" in the middle, then turns more "horizontal" at the top, on the contrary the Givi makes the opposite, so that air flow behind the screen "disrupts" in an odd way when reaching the top of the screen where the screen suddenly ends. At least this is my impression.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on April 10, 2015, 06:49:34 PM
*Originally Posted by sunnybankroar [+]
Really happy with the puig windscreen for longer HWY rides and I am 5'11"
Would like a little update still liking it we are the same height  have you tried both up&down to see any different
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bgagnon on April 19, 2015, 10:20:50 PM
Hi all,
I just placed an order for "BRUUDT Windscreen Adjusters fort the Honda CB500 X" http://www.bruudtcnc.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p231_bruudt-windscreen-adjusters-for-the-honda-nc700-s-and-nc750-s.html (http://www.bruudtcnc.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p231_bruudt-windscreen-adjusters-for-the-honda-nc700-s-and-nc750-s.html)

I will be using the stock windshield and will report back when I start riding. The added space between the fairing and the windscreen will probably be enough to reduce some wind turbulence. I will hopefully be able to find an height adjustment for my small height (5'7").

../Bruno
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on April 20, 2015, 02:17:20 AM
*Originally Posted by bgagnon [+]
Hi all,
I just placed an order for "BRUUDT Windscreen Adjusters fort the Honda CB500 X" http://www.bruudtcnc.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p231_bruudt-windscreen-adjusters-for-the-honda-nc700-s-and-nc750-s.html (http://www.bruudtcnc.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p231_bruudt-windscreen-adjusters-for-the-honda-nc700-s-and-nc750-s.html)

I will be using the stock windshield and will report back when I start riding. The added space between the fairing and the windscreen will probably be enough to reduce some wind turbulence. I will hopefully be able to find an height adjustment for my small height (5'7").

../Bruno

The ones you link to are for the NC700/750.Will they work on our CB500X?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on April 20, 2015, 03:42:20 AM
Im a cheap skate and just ordered this cheap spoiler to clamp onto my stock screen:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universal-Moto-motobike-Windshield-Windscreen-Transparent-Spoiler-Shield-CC-/291398715958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item43d8b78a36 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universal-Moto-motobike-Windshield-Windscreen-Transparent-Spoiler-Shield-CC-/291398715958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item43d8b78a36)

If it doesnt work out it wont have marked my stock screen and wont have costed much. Its coming up to winter here now so be nice to have less cool air on me but not essential.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on April 20, 2015, 03:50:48 AM
EScCTRL look down the list there are 500x ones doc
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on April 20, 2015, 04:05:34 PM
*Originally Posted by crazy doctor [+]
EScCTRL look down the list there are 500x ones doc

I found it,thanks.It may be an idea to try before buying the Madstad set up.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on April 20, 2015, 04:18:11 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I found it,thanks.It may be an idea to try before buying the Madstad set up.
I also would like to know how it works on the 500.I'm just to cheap to buy one just to see if it works
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on April 20, 2015, 04:25:05 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
I also would like to know how it works on the 500.I'm just to cheap to buy one just to see if it works

I'm currently to broke.  :008:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bgagnon on April 21, 2015, 02:11:56 AM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
The ones you link to are for the NC700/750.Will they work on our CB500X?

Sorry!! They also have the one for cb500x. My bad. I ordered the right ones :)

I will post back when installed and tested. Hopefully they will work. I wanted to test them before  a Madstad solution.

../Bruno
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on April 23, 2015, 04:48:48 PM
Can't find much on the Puig touring shield anyone has one and around 6'   I would like to know how it's doing
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: willielee3 on April 23, 2015, 11:10:09 PM
I purchased a Madstad Shield a month ago. It actually did a fairly good job blocking the wind but it was extremely noisey so I decided to return it back to Madstad.

The process was very easy and they credited my Paypal immediately upon return of the windshield.

Even though the screen did not work for me, I am extremely pleased with their customer service and support.

I have a Madstad shield on my KLR650 and it works like a champ!!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Soulbreeze on April 25, 2015, 08:03:29 AM
Haven't read all this, so just posting what I got so far:

MRA Vario Touring screen

Better airflow than stock. Less wind noise. Less buffeting, but I do feel a bit of buffeting pressure on the very, very top of my helmet. I have only had 1 run with it so far and it was on a bit of a windy day. At 5'6" with a 29.5" inseam, it seems to work pretty decently. Once the weather gets a bit better and I get a commute or two on it, I'll have a better idea. I need to try other spoiler settings as well, but so far, 2 clicks down from top position, with one more click to angle towards the rider is pretty good. Haven't tried lower settings yet. it's not feasible to adjust on the fly so you need to pull over and have two hands to move it.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: brownclown on April 26, 2015, 03:19:11 PM
 I put the Puig screen on - terrible choice. I can't hear myself think with it on
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: fabio on April 26, 2015, 03:23:11 PM
uh...so Puig is no better then Givi... :006: (which also originates much turbulence in my experience)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on April 26, 2015, 05:25:02 PM
*Originally Posted by brownclown [+]
I put the Puig screen on - terrible choice. I can't hear myself think with it on
How tall are you
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on April 26, 2015, 05:27:16 PM
*Originally Posted by fabio [+]
uh...so Puig is no better then Givi... :006: (which also originates much turbulence in my experience)
I tried a Givi didn't like it either so I guess Puig's the same.By the way how tall are you
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: fabio on April 26, 2015, 05:41:49 PM
I'm 180cm tall and didn't like Givi in both lower and upper positions because of huge buffeting. However LOWER position much better the upper position in my experience. Back to original. Didn't try Puig.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on April 26, 2015, 07:18:52 PM
I am 6'2" (188cm) tall. Initially I found my CB500XA very noisy to ride at highway speed as I was not wearing a full face helmet.

After buying a Shoei RF-1200, the wind noise moved to the outside of my helmet. Something like having a window seat on an airplane.

I bought a California Scientific wind screen. My jacket was now bug free, my helmet took the occasional hit, but there was less wind noise. As there is a port in the bottom of this wind screen, I do not experience any buffeting.

(https://www.cb500x.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=82.0;attach=5036;image)

Although all my previous experiments with ear plugs had failed, I purchased a pair of Surefire EP4 Sonic Defender earplugs.

(https://www.cb500x.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=82.0;attach=5034;image)

Ahhh! Peace and quiet at last.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dazza55 on May 01, 2015, 10:11:31 AM
Hi, I'm currently running a Givi touring screen with a mra vario clip on, makes the bike very high but comfort is perfect, often riding with my visor up which helps as olive I the tropics. You could try Honda tall screen too,it's lower than giving from experience gives very similar protection.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: micksing on May 01, 2015, 10:53:27 AM
 My bike fell over while parked & bent the original mounts so i made my own and fabricated a windscreen and deflectors from scrap I salvaged from the local recycling centre. still have a bit of tidying up to do on them,can ride at any speed with visor up
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on May 04, 2015, 04:20:32 AM
My cheap spoiler from China arrived. I bought it from http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universal-Moto-motobike-Windshield-Windscreen-Transparent-Spoiler-Shield-CC-/291398715958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item43d8b78a36 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universal-Moto-motobike-Windshield-Windscreen-Transparent-Spoiler-Shield-CC-/291398715958?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item43d8b78a36) and its US$53 or about 35 quid UK. Quality of metal fittings is good and didnt look like its threads or heads were of cheap metal. Only took 3 min to install as it clamps onto stock screen. First ride in this morning and a lot more helmet noise and visor was starting to fog up by end of commute. I need to try different spoiler angles and adjust my stock screen height from low to high. Its got a quick thumb clip to change angle in a couple of seconds.

As its cheap I dont mind too much if it doesnt work out and may even grind it so its more curvy and smaller. Also no drilling of stock screen so should leave virtually no mark if removed. Im glad I went this route rather than buying a tall aftermarket screen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: blowpipe on May 04, 2015, 09:55:46 AM
Be good to hear how you get on with this, Tas.

I've got my screen raised to the highest level but could do with a bit more comfort at speed - but I don't want to go the whole hog of a new screen as I like the way the bike looks.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bgagnon on May 05, 2015, 04:09:32 PM
*Originally Posted by bgagnon [+]
Sorry!! They also have the one for cb500x. My bad. I ordered the right ones :)

I will post back when installed and tested. Hopefully they will work. I wanted to test them before a Madstad solution.

../Bruno

Received and installed in a mere 10 minutes.
I will let you know how it goes in a couples of weeks.

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on May 05, 2015, 11:51:36 PM
*Originally Posted by blowpipe [+]
Be good to hear how you get on with this, Tas.

I've got my screen raised to the highest level but could do with a bit more comfort at speed - but I don't want to go the whole hog of a new screen as I like the way the bike looks.

I adjusted the spoiler angle so its tilting down compared to stock screen and rode in this morning in blustery 34kt wind and wind noise was virtually gone. I still need to test other positions but so far am happy with this cheap spoiler.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: blowpipe on May 06, 2015, 11:41:49 AM
Thanks Tas - when you say tilted down, do you mean the top section towards or away from the rider?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on May 06, 2015, 11:59:44 AM
Towards.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: blowpipe on May 06, 2015, 12:05:14 PM
Thanks, I'll give this a run.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: OldForter on May 06, 2015, 02:44:19 PM
The stock shield would direct the air onto my helmet and on a windy ride of about 400km my neck was sore.

I installed my Madstad on Monday and had 2 rides since. It does an excellent job of moving wind from my helmet.  It is very quiet behind the screen. It did move air down onto my chest. This works for me. The wind was about 35 km with gust to 45 km. Some wind does come from around the screen but I had expected that. I was going to go for a longer ride today to further test it, but there is about 6 inches of snow that came in overnight.
It doesn't look as nice as stock.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: blowpipe on May 06, 2015, 05:26:14 PM
Only six inches? Pah...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on May 06, 2015, 06:18:04 PM
As it says windshield options  I only have a few left   hate stock no matter what I do with it  no shield OK to good  but hate brackets sticking out  hate Givi   the rest(shields) are just to ugly to me  so I'm down to two   got a deal on a Puig tinted touring will get it today  if that fails  off with the brackets  could always sell bike but don't want to do that I like it   and if I do that than buy what   I know there is a next bike in my future  but not yet  just having fun
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on May 07, 2015, 04:30:02 AM
Got my Puig in  looks great in tinted  went to put it on the bolt holes were off by 12mm  called company was told some fit good and some don't fit at all depends on which bike  and no use sending another it will be the same    the windshield gods are against me  I think I'm being told to go naked  so I'll give it till the weekend  take a good look at those brackets and see if the need to go
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on May 07, 2015, 09:36:23 AM
  Re wind noise  i'm of the old school when wind in your hair and oil leaks and poor brakes were the norm but now we want no wind no oil leaks ABS power steering etc it was fine in those days. Now we want so much more while i agree some things are for the better ie abs not so many oil leaks better tires better brakes but the wind will aways be hard to overcome. Living in a hot country try drivng in to wind at 42 degrees it like riding into a full on hair dryer and a screen is no help i know a lot of members were not riding in the 60s but some of us were i'm sure. being out in the elements was all part of the fun. Driving a car shuts out the wind noise but so boring i hope this is taken the right way and not as a criticism. doc
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on May 07, 2015, 09:48:19 AM
Forgot to say a good pair of ear plugs and a good helmet works well with no screen and at 100 mph very slight wind noise on my 650f doc :002:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on May 07, 2015, 04:31:17 PM
*Originally Posted by crazy doctor [+]
Forgot to say a good pair of ear plugs and a good helmet works well with no screen and at 100 mph very slight wind noise on my 650f doc :002:
Been riding 50+ years  I understand wind  first 30 years would not even consider any kind of shield  but as I get older it's starting to take it's toll on me with shields that put the wind in my face and make the wind louder  last 10 years ear plugs always  as of now I think my X needs to be naked and I will get a better helmet   let me break it down like his stock shield wind noise 10+  Givi 7   no shield 3   see where I'm going it's not the wind it self but the way it hits me  P.S if we in the USA could get the 650F  that would be my next bike  in yellow
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: gamerbfk on May 08, 2015, 03:21:25 PM
 :148:
 I just so happened, before starting this forum today, that I ordered a new windshield/windscreen.

So these are just OPINIONS I formed when trying to make my purchase decision online, before knowing about this forum and reading this thread. -- Just recently got the bike.

Of course, It sure would be nice to actually see the product and even better, ride around a bit with various models, but as most of us know: No can do.

& I don't mean to disparage anyone else's opinions or user experience.

#1.  I've noticed some folks disparage any need for a replacement windshield, but  I think the stock item is pretty useless.
It's windy where I live (like an old song says: "...as wild as the west Texas wind." -- It's always windy and it's like getting beat up to ride through it for a few hours.  Over 70mph (120kph?) it was real bad.

So, if someone wants a new windshield, go for it. & rather unnecessary to say it's not needed.

I'll REPORT BACK what difference it makes when I get it next week.

After my day of Internet search I came down to these options.

The Madstad, mentioned a couple of times already. but expensive ($265) and although some creative thinking I wondered if it was too much creative thinking, from the mind of an individual inventor at a small business. Decided not.

Puig, the cheapest. Seemed too cheap. Although some positive reviews, most seemed negative.

Givi, also previously mentioned and this was a serious consideration, $121. Some liked it. Others not so much.

Calsci (California Scientific). $189. Didn't appeal. For some reason;.

National Cycle Vstream, from Ebay $187 -- This was the one I picked, (arriving next week).

Why picked this one? - I liked how all reviews talked about it being real strong, good material, tough, scratch resistant, etc. and I thought if they put all that work into making it such a durable product, that was good and a good sign it was 'for real.'

 Also:  Tall, 21" (approx 52cm), so that's 20cm taller than stock. (And, I'm tall too, 6'3"). & Wide. And a Unique Design they claimed was good for airflow. They spent a lot of time talking about air flow and I got the idea someone actually put this in a wind tunnel to work it out. Apparently, also, a large company been around for some time, which I liked.

There are certainly others to consider, but these names kept popping up --- and what country you're in can make a difference what's available I suppose. ---  I don't normally buy from Ebay. Buy a lot from Amazon. But on eBay got good payment terms, 6 months, no interests and that made it easier to purchase and going through PayPay Credit there were guarantees about not getting ripped off on the sale, so I felt okay about that. (all part of my purchase decision).

So...time will tell. Next week. I'll get to see how 'Internet research' matches up with reality.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on May 09, 2015, 04:20:39 AM
The problem is every one is different  if one shield worked we would all have it  I don't know what to tell you other than  as you said if you can ride a few X's  with different shields that would make it easy but I can't see that happening either   so roll the dice maybe you'll luck out and the N/C shield will work for you   I quit no shield for me.. All so I didn't cut off the brackets I mounted a fanny pack over the brackets  looks good hides the brackets.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: gamerbfk on May 09, 2015, 03:09:11 PM
I like the 'fanny pack' idea (post, above)...a motorcycle could use a little 'glove box.' -- maybe I can hang one around my new, much taller windshield.

 :082:
True, of course, we're all different, motorcycle models all different, and we often can't get to even see much less try out products (I live in remote NE Rural Arizona...no city to shop in for 175 miles, one way).

So we just have to do our best to make judgements on the Net.

 :179:

And hope we don't #$%$^#$% too bad.

I've had to do this with almost all my camera and computer gear and -- not to argue -- but the challenge to me is to make good choices and try to make it better than just 'rolling the dice.' -- I don't like the odds of just rolling the dice.

JUST GOT NOTIFIED. My N/C windshield was shipped out yesterday. Will arrive next Thursday.

As previously mentioned, I will post what I think about it.

ONE THING I NOTICED and thought significant --  when trying to make judgements on the Net -- I have not found one negative review of this model windshield. No one said it sucked.

On the thread here the 2 or 3 folks who got it and reported on it all said they were pleased.

YouTube folks, all pleased. --- Several big chain supply shops all mention N/C positively.

The lack of negative comments impressed me as much as the 5-star comments.

The company's innovation with other models also impressed me. They put an air vent on their rather large Honda Gold Wing model.
I never saw anything like that before and later I found a YouTube of a Gold Wing rider who made a GoPro video driving around with it.

The silence was AMAZING!

Anyhow, next week I'll know how my model on my bike works for me.

...and if I want to pay a 15% restocking fee (I don't) -- I can send it back.

Cheers. Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on May 10, 2015, 04:43:34 AM
Well I thought the fanny pack was a good idea at the time mounted one last night  looked great  took it for a ride  guess what same as the shield on low setting wind right in the face    took it off 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Matt F. on May 10, 2015, 11:45:54 AM
I recently installed an MRA Vario and now have enough miles under varied conditions to give it a big thumbs up. The reason I chose the MRA was that the inherent adjustability of the spoiler seems to give a little more personalization / room for error. And this seems to work -- my 5'9", 31" inseam, over-fed body is happiest two clicks from the top.

I now hate riding on the big highways about 50% less  -- now i find it merely boring vs brain shaking. It's also helped quiet down my insanely loud Nolan N44 helmet (in conjunction w/ good ear plugs).

I'm not sure if it is throwing the air over my helmet or under it -- but whatever it is doing has really helped me out. I also think it looks pretty cool -- in a sort of more purposeful, serious kind of way -- but that is certainly a matter of opinion / personal taste.

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: gamerbfk on May 10, 2015, 04:53:45 PM
50% improvement (post above) way better than nothing!

Glad to hear it does some good. & you like the look. I thought the VT model look was pretty cool. Some other spoilers I didn't like. It's really one's personal preference that counts.
(I was attracted by the spoiler idea but thought: Well, I could add one on later.' --- but that would be more expensive and one couldn't be sure of a good fit.Just wasn't sure.)

 :027:
AERODYNAMICS sure has become a new and interesting topic. From previous posts it seems even adding a fanny pack will change the flow of air...how spoilers can be adjusted...the MadStad system, N/C's VStream idea, vents being built into windshields, etc.

I read recently about a new airplane wing design to match the shape of a seagull's wing; big fuel saving, now being planned for lots of new planes. So, even after more than a hundred years of flight new ideas can still improve things.

I'm geting all 'keen' about it now, awaiting delivery for my replacement, due in 4 days. I  got my screwdriver and some extra washers at the ready. Figure I can fiddle around with the angle, as well as the two prime positions, high or low.

I've been now paying more attention to where the wind it hitting me: It's hitting me right in the neck.

If the wind stops hitting me in the neck, just that would be about a 40% improvement
...and first steps to less wind buffeting and turbulence happiness for me.


I don't have much noise problem. I don't expect to listen to a radio when on my motorcycle...and, uh, maybe I've gone a little bit deaf. (Ha)
Anyhow, I'd worry about cutting down hearing while on the road, 'cause I like hearing cars or trucks when they're coming through my blind spot.
No?

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nomad Racing on May 10, 2015, 05:32:41 PM
As has been mentioned, we are all different so what works for one person will be awful for another.

I've had a couple of bikes where buffeting was a real issue' a BMW F800GS and a Triumph Tiger 1050. Like this one the respective forums are full of "solutions". I fitted a taller screen to the GS (from Metal Mule) but it didn't really help as the buffeting was clearly from air peeling round the sides of the screen. It was impossible to fit a wider screen due to clearance issues with the handlebars.

The buffeting on the Tiger was truly dreadful and only partially cured by fitting a taller and wider Givi screen.

When I bought my KTM 990 Adventure, I thought the screen was far too small and narrow to be any use but it turned out to be the best yet. Rather than trying to punch a hole in the air, it  seems to allow it to flow more smoothly around my head.

Other things than can make difference are wearing earplugs of course, something I will recommend to anyone after 36 years of motorcycling and resulting hearing loss and tinnitus  :023:

But other factors can make a real difference, like mirror position, mirror extenders can really help. Also different helmets make a huge difference. On my Tiger I gave up wearing my Shoei Syncrotech II as it was so bad and stuck with my Arai Astro R. However the Arai is quite noisy on the 990, whereas the Shoei was fine. The Syncrotech has gone but instead I now have a Shoei Hornet DS, which I thought would be noisy with the peak but works really well on he 990.

Jackets can make a difference too, the way the air flows over your shoulder seems to be the important factor here.

So no real pearls of wisdom other than you will almost certainly need to experiment a bit to find your solution and don't assume that because someone else has found an answer, that it will automatically work for you.

So six days until I collect my CB500X, it'll be interesting to see what it feels like as I've only test ridden the CB500R (and that felt great)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on May 10, 2015, 10:02:14 PM
Modern clothing adds to wind noise. Ive still got my 35 year old goretex jacket and helmet. No velcro joins or velcro pockets in the jacket and the helmet has no vents so is just smooth when the visor is down. Unfortunately I cant use the helmet because of its age, though the jacket still just fits, but wont win any fashion statements. My newish Shark helmet has 3 vent switches and many holes. Ive said before the one item that reduces helmet noise for me is adding a Windjammer 2 to the bottom of the helmet. It stops most the wind entering up the chin.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on May 11, 2015, 04:27:11 AM
This will be my last comment on windshields  because I removed the brackets today(before I lost my nerve)  didn't take anything apart used a piece of thin flashing metal up against the plastic and used a Dremel with a cut off wheel  very nice done  not a mark on the plastic  little paint  total time 15 min
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on May 11, 2015, 04:43:42 AM
Im using my cheap US$50 chinese spoiler with windscreen on high setting. More helmet noise than on low but will now play with spoiler angle. By the way Ive damaged 2 of the rubber stock lugs that the windscreen bolts mount onto. Anyone got a part number or know where I can source. Off to try eBay now.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: gamerbfk on May 14, 2015, 07:13:56 PM
My new, replacement windshield was  delivered yesterday -- the N20047 VStream® Touring Replacement Screen for Honda® CB500X (photo, attached).

I LIKE IT.
I'm a satisfied customer.

 :028:

I'd say it's a 70% improvement,for sure; maybe even better.

I DEFINITELY FELT THIS WINDSHIELD WAS 'BETTER' at cutting down the wind (that I hated hitting me on the neck).

AFTER RIDING IN THE RAID, one night, maybe I should say this is an 80% improvement.
Because I felt this was probably 'much better' than having all the rain hitting me.

So,  I'd said riding now varies from 'better' to sometimes (in the rain)  'much better.'
depending upon conditions.

I don't want to give a rating, though, that this is the best thing in the world, and would please Everyone without doubt.

But the more I ride with this replacement windshield, the more I appreciate how it's 'better' --- the more riding, the more
appreciation of 'better' becomes.

NOISE?
(but it had no effect on reducing noise and it's not like you're suddenly riding in an isolated capsule.
And it might be folly to give a rating as if it was an Absolute Determination...so I'm giving a 'range'


With the stock windshield, the air was hitting me in the neck; it was intolerable. (Aided by the fact I already  live in a consistently windy environment at this time of year).

Now the air skims across the top of my helmet and on the side it tickles by my elbows.

STATS:
#1.  I'm  6'3" - inseam 33" and so I purchased the largest model I could find.  I wanted the largest windshield built to fit the CB500X.

2. First impression was how much higher quality this was compared to stock: the nuts and bolts (i.e. grommets & brushings, etc.), the thickness and substances, the clarity looking through it; all much better. Makes stock item look like a toy.

3. Installed easily enough and when the (tight) grommets and brushings are in, it would be super easy to take windshield off (like if you wanted to go riding with Crazy Doc or someone who has an ideological aversion to accessories you may choose).

4. My environment's current wind is 27mph (44kph) so I EXPECT wind and might not have the same 'wind reduction expectations' as others. As mentioned, it got the wind from riding off my neck, hardly touching me at all; better to much better.

5. To test it I took it up to 70mph+ (114kph) and the test & concern here was to assess if it was adversely effecting handling. If so, not much...but maybe a little. Nothing to cause a disaster, imo.  (There's a warning label comes with the windshield about this).

6. Makes a bike look a bit more like a touring bike; a short, squat touring bike.

7. The inside of the windshield reflects the fuel cap and 4 orange glows from the LCD display. At first, not knowing what the heck this was and wondering why suddenly there was like a shimmering hologram in front of me, I found this slightly distressing but, as expected, I learned to ignore it, not look at it and forget about it.

8. I'm looking over the top of the windshield. The top of the windshield is below my nose, (in photo, attached) which I read someone into stats recommend...although how anyone could check this out beforehand I don't know. From photo this can be seen. It reaches about up to my stiff upper lip.

9. Another stat man suggested being able to look 50feet ( 15-16 meters) down the road and not be looking through the windshield. Which happen to be just about exactly right for me, when measured (I guess because it's below my nose?).

10. I sort of wonder if it would be nicer an inch or two shorter...but the sports model too short and I'm not sending it back.

11. Maybe adding rubber spacers, (half-inch) I could play around with angle.

12. The width is a perfect fit. It could not be any wider, as another poster noted it's close to bumping up against the mirror stem. For the first time in my life I estimated a measurement, naturally, in metric -- the edge of the windscreen is about 2mm from the mirror stem. The bike's handlebars  can still be twisted and locked, thank goodness, and it's as close as close can be.

ADDED LATER: I've now ordered mirror extenders, to raise the mirrors up a bit and move them out a couple of inches. This may allow me to try the windshield in the higher position, -- also want to add rubber spacer when I do that to angle it a bit more. If that works (someone else on this thread mentioned doing that) I think such fiddling around with different height and angle could definitely move up my estimate to 'Better+' -- (and Much Better+ in the rain)

ADDENDUM, ADDED LATER. A subsequent post saying I just 'wanted to like the windshield' is ridiculous. It's pretty simple: I got a product; I like it. EVERY OTHER MENTION OF THE VSTREAM IN THIS THREAD SAYS THEY LIKE IT. (2 or 3 in this thread, and ALL reviews I found at other sites). No review said it was trash; not one...and not mine either.

If I didn't like it, I'd send it back or say so.

As far as the later post by the apparently 'Psychic Poster' who claims to be able to spot such nuisances between actually liking something vs. 'wanting' to like something, I'd suggest he keep his day job, but his psychic powers have apparently withered on the vine.

Although maybe his next game could be pretending to buy things, and giving more psychic reviews about his non-existent purchases.


Have a nice day. Rock on.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on May 14, 2015, 08:17:04 PM
*Originally Posted by gamerbfk [+]
My new, replacement windshield was  delivered yesterday -- the N20047 VStream® Touring Replacement Screen for Honda® CB500X (photo, attached).

I LIKE IT.
I'm a satisfied customer.

 :028:

I'd say it's a 70-80% improvement. I'd said riding now varies from 'better' to 'much better.'
(but it had no effect on reducing noise and it's not like you're suddenly riding in an isolated capsule.
And it might be folly to give a rating as if it was an Absolute Determination...so I'm giving a 'range'


With the stock windshield, the air was hitting me in the neck; it was intolerable. (Aided by the fact I already  live in a consistently windy environment at this time of year).

Now the air skims across the top of my helmet and on the side it tickles by my elbows.

STATS:
#1.  I'm  6'3" - inseam 33" and so I purchased the largest model I could find.  I wanted the largest windshield built to fit the CB500X.

2. First impression was how much higher quality this was compared to stock: the nuts and bolts (i.e. grommets & brushings, etc.), the thickness and substances, the clarity looking through it; all much better. Makes stock item look like a toy.

3. Installed easily enough and when the (tight) grommets and brushings are in, it would be super easy to take windshield off (like if you wanted to go riding with Crazy Doc or someone who has an ideological aversion to accessories you may choose).

4. My environment's current wind is 27mph (44kph) so I EXPECT wind and might not have the same 'wind reduction expectations' as others. As mentioned, it got the wind from riding off my neck, hardly touching me at all; better to much better.

5. To test it I took it up to 70mph+ (114kph) and the test & concern here was to assess if it was adversely effecting handling. If so, not much...but maybe a little. Nothing to cause a disaster, imo.  (There's a warning label comes with the windshield about this).

6. Makes a bike look a bit more like a touring bike; a short, squat touring bike.

7. The inside of the windshield reflects the fuel cap and 4 orange glows from the LCD display. At first, not knowing what the heck this was and wondering why suddenly there was like a shimmering hologram in front of me, I found this slightly distressing but, as expected, I learned to ignore it, not look at it and forget about it.

8. I'm looking over the top of the windshield. The top of the windshield is below my nose, (in photo, attached) which I read someone into stats recommend...although how anyone could check this out beforehand I don't know. From photo this can be seen. It reaches about up to my stiff upper lip.

9. Another stat man suggested being able to look 50feet ( 15-16 meters) down the road and not be looking through the windshield. Which happen to be just about exactly right for me, when measured (I guess because it's below my nose?).

10. I sort of wonder if it would be nicer an inch or two shorter...but the sports model too short and I'm not sending it back.

11. Maybe adding rubber spacers, (half-inch) I could play around with angle.

12. The width is a perfect fit. It could not be any wider, as another poster noted it's close to bumping up against the mirror stem. For the first time in my life I estimated a measurement, naturally, in metric -- the edge of the windscreen is about 2mm from the mirror stem. The bike's handlebars  can still be twisted and locked, thank goodness, and it's as close as close can be.

Have a nice day. Rock on.
I may be wrong  but it sounds like you really want to like this shield  but if there is no reduction of noise?  I'm at a lost.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on May 15, 2015, 05:00:59 AM
Ive been playing with my cheap $50 chinese spoiler and am close to concluding it doesnt help. With Spoiler angled outwards away from me at a steeper angle than rake angle of stock screen, get lots of helmet noise. Only time noise disappeared was with stock screen on low setting and spoiler angled towards me as I posted earlier. But no difference from stock screen without spoiler. Ive been using it this week with stock screen on high and dont like any settings of spoiler.

So Spoiler will come off on the weekend and will try stock screen on high for a while (which I did a year ago before putting screen back to low). Then will do the spacer trick on the lower bolts to reduce angle of rake of stock screen on low. I was pretty happy with stock screen on low anyhow but have also enjoyed some cheap tinkering which has confirmed I will not buy a tall screen. I dont mind the wind blast to my neck and prefer it to the helmet noise when it blasts at top of helmet.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: gamerbfk on May 15, 2015, 01:22:59 PM
The Honda-Africa-Twin-CRF1000L New for 2016 just got announced.

I like the windshield (windscreen) height. (for my size, tall)
In my post about getting the tallest N/C Vstream I concluded that it was 'better' and maybe (much better), depending upon one's grading styles but did wonder if maybe just a bit, an inch or two shorter, would be nicer. (nicer, much better). But that option is not one of the possibilities....I'll play around with angles and heights more today.

The purpose of the windshield? Someone asked? -- like on the new Honda-Africa-Twin-CRF1000L and CB500X, etc. is to cut down the wind hitting the rider.

 :017:

In my last post I mentioned that it was intolerable how the wind was pounding me on my neck...just beating me up and I realized that a 600+ mile round trip I had in mind (1,000km), was going to be more of an ordeal than I wanted.

From my dictionary: Windshield 
Also found in: Acronyms, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia.
wind·shield  (wĭnd′shēld′)

n.
1. A pane of usually curved glass or other transparent shielding mounted in front of the occupants of a vehicle to protect them from the wind.
2. A shield placed to protect an object from the wind.
American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2011 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.

Maybe expecting it to also cut down noise is a bit off-target. Others on this thread talk about how different models of helmets might help do that, or using ear plugs (why not?). Or when getting older folks get a bit hard of hearing so time will help, too.

I was impressed, though, but someone putting a huge -- oh, so large -- windshield on a Honda Gold Wing and it had a vent in it. I don't know if I'd want to ride around seeing that vent in front of my face but it did seem to make an incredible difference in cutting down the noise on that model machine...so getting a Honda Gold Wing with this new windscreen model might help?

Or maybe the noise is less on this new Honda-Africa-Twin-CRF1000L?

But I'm happy with my middleweight Honda CB500X for now...although the idea of starting to collect several models of motorcycles has some appeal to me; maybe when I win the state lottery. And, reference OP, my new N/C Stream is a nice improvement, the wind no longer pounding me on my neck, thank goodness!

For cutting down noise I would suggest considering different helmet and ear plugs....though personally I still like to hear the sounds of the road, to stay alert for cars and trucks and other traffic situations; I wouldn't want to block out the noise completely, nor do I think that could be done.

Have a nice day. Rock on. [&, today,--  RIP B.B. King]
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on May 21, 2015, 11:21:11 PM
Ive finally decided my $50 chinese spoiler is a failure. Like those buying tall screens it causes big increase in head buffeting, helmet noise and visor fogging. I am back to the stock screen on low settings with 5mm rubber electrical grommet spacers on lower bolts so its as far out from bottom and I tightened the top bolts to be close in to the mounting bracket. So I have a nice big gap at bottom of screen and the angle of the screen is more angled towards me. Ride in this morning and I love it. No more noise and buffeting or fogging. Its the quietest its been. I will say Im 6' 3" and I dont mind the wind hitting my neck and shoulders. So thanks to the others here on the spacer trick, should have done it a year ago!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on May 22, 2015, 03:47:11 AM
Embrace the dark side  go naked
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on May 22, 2015, 02:54:42 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Embrace the dark side  go naked

Yuppers!

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on May 23, 2015, 10:30:52 PM
I am 6'2" tall and bought a California Scientific wind screen.

(https://www.cb500x.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2139.0;attach=4428;image)

Like you I found a tall wind screen deflected the wind from my chest to the top of my helmet, but did not eliminate all the wind noise. I know from leaning forward there is a quiet spot behind the wind screen which may be good for shorter riders.

Buying a Shoei RF1200 full face helmet moved the noise from inside my helmet to outside my helmet. Buying a set of Surefire EP4 Sonic Defender ear plugs deadened the wind noise to a comfortable level, while still allowing me to hear what I needed.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: @lornejack on June 06, 2015, 04:46:49 PM
Great study on noise, helmets and screens

http://www.isvr.co.uk/reprints/inter96mc.pdf (http://www.isvr.co.uk/reprints/inter96mc.pdf)

Answer is Earplugs

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: grnd0 on June 08, 2015, 04:18:17 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Embrace the dark side  go naked

Screw the screen. Tried up, down, in, out, you know the drill.
Always too much noise even with ear plugs. Stand up, noise
goes down 50%. Just got a new Shoei Hornet X2 and went
for a ride today and noise was just as bad as my Scorpion
EXO 1100. Go home, remove the turbulence inducing piece,
then back out to see what naked feels like. Fantastic. Noise
cut at least in half. Can't get myself to cut the brackets so I
just taped them. Look like bat ears. Darkside embraced.
 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on June 08, 2015, 05:15:54 AM
*Originally Posted by grnd0 [+]
Screw the screen. Tried up, down, in, out, you know the drill.
Always too much noise even with ear plugs. Stand up, noise
goes down 50%. Just got a new Shoei Hornet X2 and went
for a ride today and noise was just as bad as my Scorpion
EXO 1100. Go home, remove the turbulence inducing piece,
then back out to see what naked feels like. Fantastic. Noise
cut at least in half. Can't get myself to cut the brackets so I
just taped them. Look like bat ears. Darkside embraced.
Welcome to the club  we are a small bunch but I feel in the long run there will be many members after a few beers you will see the bunny ears(brackets) will have to go it can be done without taking the bike apart or touching the plastic   I have no regrets- none
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on June 08, 2015, 12:25:43 PM
Yeh thats cool, looks like the bat bike. Was it bat girl that rode around on that?  :430:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Muttley on June 08, 2015, 01:16:47 PM
I have an MRA Vario screen. No turbulence or buffeting, but some wind noise.
I tried taking the screen off some time ago and found that my speed comfort zone was -
60 mph with no screen
70 with the MRA
80 with MRA and earplugs
These are just relative speeds but all I'm saying is that with screen and plugs, it's much smoother and more comfortable if I am travelling any distance.
M
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on June 08, 2015, 02:44:59 PM
*Originally Posted by Muttley [+]
I have an MRA Vario screen. No turbulence or buffeting, but some wind noise.
I tried taking the screen off some time ago and found that my speed comfort zone was -
60 mph with no screen
70 with the MRA
80 with MRA and earplugs
These are just relative speeds but all I'm saying is that with screen and plugs, it's much smoother and more comfortable if I am travelling any distance.
M
I agree in what you are saying  in my case keeping the speed to 60mph is a good thing
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on June 09, 2015, 03:43:52 AM
I will admit that with the windscreen off, it does get a bit noisy above 90 mph.  I use earplugs and cut off my bat wings. 

Anyone considering removing the braces should use drafting or freezer tape to protect the front forks from "sawdust".
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: grnd0 on June 10, 2015, 02:12:41 AM
Can't get myself to cut the brackets off so I decided to try my
2 screens again. Spent almost the whole day trying to get any
combo to work. Didn't happen. Went back out naked and all
was good. Closer to scrubbing up for the surgery.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on June 10, 2015, 04:05:15 AM
*Originally Posted by grnd0 [+]
Can't get myself to cut the brackets off so I decided to try my
2 screens again. Spent almost the whole day trying to get any
combo to work. Didn't happen. Went back out naked and all
was good. Closer to scrubbing up for the surgery.
You can do it  just say WTF and go for it
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on June 10, 2015, 04:51:44 PM
You can look like this:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/P1010942_zps9c14a4ef.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/eclipseANDjunk/P1010942_zps9c14a4ef.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: McVicar on June 10, 2015, 06:15:19 PM
Bar end mirrors would look good on that set up. :062:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on June 10, 2015, 08:22:57 PM
*Originally Posted by jsonder [+]
You can look like this:
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/P1010942_zps9c14a4ef.jpg)

How tall are those compared to the OE bars?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on June 10, 2015, 11:18:44 PM
Nearly the same.  But the controls get a tad crowded, as shown on the previous picture.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/P1010941_zps15c9f942.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/eclipseANDjunk/P1010941_zps15c9f942.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on June 11, 2015, 03:24:20 AM
Thanks.Those bars are a little flatter and may help my hand cramps.I may consider trying them out.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dimond on June 22, 2015, 11:15:18 PM
*Originally Posted by rogie68 [+]
i fitted the sliding part of my givi airflow screen from my crosstourer to my original toring screen on my 500X and its 100 % better,can ride with a dual sport helmet and not have the air catch the peak

http://youtu.be/0OXYHi5JJZw (http://youtu.be/0OXYHi5JJZw)
Did you install the 'slide rails' onto your stock windscreen so that the Givi Airflow screen can slide up/down?  If so, how did you mount the 'slide rails' to the stock windscreen? I have a Givi Airflow installed (on another bike - NOT a CB500) and love the airflow going over the top of my helmet while looking over the screen. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: @lornejack on June 23, 2015, 04:40:22 AM
It's not the cb500x's .. It the Full Givi AirFlow from a previous gen V-Strom.
I've cobbled together some 1" brackets to mount as the screens holes don't match the Honda's.
I'm really happy with it. I'm not fighting the wind as I was with the stock screen. I wear a modular helmet and can ride at hiway speeds with the chin bar open and not yanking my head off..
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: victord33 on June 25, 2015, 05:29:39 PM
Since I bought the Puig screen I have also fitted the Puig adjustable laminar vario-type screen. It made a big difference and so far it's the best combo I've found. I don't get wind on my helmet much, which is sometimes a problem when I can't vent on cold mornings and the helmet fogs up... but I can ride at 90-100 with the visor up and I can even open up at 120-125 on the highway with no problem. Makes adjusting my glasses or scratching my nose that much easier.

http://www.puigusa.com/tuning-bikes/honda-cb500x-2013/multiregulable-visor-fixed-with-screws/c171en/f1-r315-m3432/ (http://www.puigusa.com/tuning-bikes/honda-cb500x-2013/multiregulable-visor-fixed-with-screws/c171en/f1-r315-m3432/)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: OldForter on June 28, 2015, 02:56:23 PM
*Originally Posted by grnd0 [+]
Can't get myself to cut the brackets off so I decided to try my
2 screens again. Spent almost the whole day trying to get any
combo to work. Didn't happen. Went back out naked and all
was good. Closer to scrubbing up for the surgery.

I've tried no screen, low screen, high screen and Madstad.
No Screen and low stock screen, best for wind noise, very little below 110 kph, BUT we have a lot of bugs, and a large number hit the face shield and continually cleaning. Also, a lot of bugs get into my helmet, into my jacket. Hate a insect in my ear, crawling on my neck while riding.
High stock screen blows the wind onto bottom of the helmet and bug guts into the same area. Less bugs on the face shield and live ones in the helmet. I can block the bottom of the helmet, but then the heat is extreme. Also the blowing of the helmet puts stain on my neck. It was quite sore after a 500km ride.
Madstad blows most of the bugs over the top of my helmet, very little wind noise on a calm day or heading straight into or from the wind. Lots of noise when quartering higher winds. Allows a nice breeze into the bottom of the helmet to keep cooler. I wear ear plugs and the wind noise is gone.

If I was mainly riding to and from work, I would go with no shield, but I'm usually out of 100 km plus when I go for a ride. Also, we have some nice area's to ride on gravel roads, and I prefer my helmet shield up, so this is best with the Madstad.
Also, if I was younger I might do the surgery (didn't get a sore neck from riding all day when I was 20 on a naked Triumph).

Just a question: Are there lots of places that have huge number of bugs in the summer? I have never seen any place with more than the prairies. While traveling in the Western US, a lot of people I've talked to refer to it as a BUG screen, not a windshield.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bgagnon on July 03, 2015, 08:19:46 PM
*Originally Posted by bgagnon [+]
Hi all,
I just placed an order for "BRUUDT Windscreen Adjusters fort the Honda CB500 X" http://www.bruudtcnc.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p231_bruudt-windscreen-adjusters-for-the-honda-cb500x.html (http://www.bruudtcnc.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p231_bruudt-windscreen-adjusters-for-the-honda-cb500x.html)

I will be using the stock windshield and will report back when I start riding. The added space between the fairing and the windscreen will probably be enough to reduce some wind turbulence. I will hopefully be able to find an height adjustment for my small height (5'7").

Received and installed in a mere 10 minutes.
I will let you know how it goes in a couples of weeks.

As installed, it does remove part of the buffeting but the bugs go right to my helmet. Also the wind noise is very loud. I will try something else with or without the extending brackets. I think the problem reside in the angle at which the stock bracket are angled.

../Bruno
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on July 04, 2015, 04:55:08 AM
I was sitting in my garage looking at my bike(without windshield brackets) thinking it's not that I don't like windshields   it's I don't like windshields that don't work   so what can I do about it   than the brain said how about bolting a shield on the handle bars  a short one mounted high just above the speedo I could look below it to see the speedo the handlebars will turn and the air coming off the speedo will go up and hit the new shield and than over my helmet   it's still in the though stage    question has anyone else put any though in this
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: grnd0 on July 04, 2015, 05:25:17 AM
No
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on July 23, 2015, 01:45:39 AM
No
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on July 23, 2015, 05:16:47 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
I was sitting in my garage looking at my bike(without windshield brackets) thinking it's not that I don't like windshields   it's I don't like windshields that don't work   so what can I do about it   than the brain said how about bolting a shield on the handle bars  a short one mounted high just above the speedo I could look below it to see the speedo the handlebars will turn and the air coming off the speedo will go up and hit the new shield and than over my helmet   it's still in the though stage    question has anyone else put any though in this
Well after a lot of research  I ordered the National Cycle Deflector DX should be here by week end than the fun starts
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on July 23, 2015, 05:22:14 AM
By the way as someone has suggested, shrugging your shoulders makes an instant difference , everything quiets down. I have tried it with the stock windshield in various positions / angles and also with out, maybe its the mirrors or the shape of the tank/fairings ? Wind coming off the sides as opposed to the top ???  :187:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on July 23, 2015, 07:55:44 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
By the way as someone has suggested, shrugging your shoulders makes an instant difference , everything quiets down. I have tried it with the stock windshield in various positions / angles and also with out, maybe its the mirrors or the shape of the tank/fairings ? Wind coming off the sides as opposed to the top ???  :187:

I think the tank/fairings do have some effect as I have wind deflectors (part of the Madstad system) sitting on top of my fairings and it did reduce the wind noise a bit. Not completely noise-free, but reduces it to a comfortable level.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on July 23, 2015, 11:37:45 PM
I don't see myself doing much freeway at all on this bike, it's way to scary for me . That's a pity cause I wanted to take some long trips. Hats off to those who either found a stabil set up that is not tiring or scary . I know it can be done because there are lots of people here that are putting a lot of freeway miles on this bike. On Florida freeways unless you can maintain 75 mph or better someone will run you over. Oh well.... The search for stability continues for me.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Matt F. on July 24, 2015, 12:17:52 AM
cb-500-x: don't give up. I felt much the same way. My MRA Vario screen really, really helped with some of the noise and 85% of the buffeting.

Unfortunately the results are highly individual...  But I went from a place where I hated (almost feared) the highway to now just finding it boring, if not somewhat useful at times.

I'm also a bit of a load -- closer to 250lbs than I should be -- the bike has no issues with it...75 is no problem for me.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on July 24, 2015, 12:23:42 AM
 I'm 5'9" 225 . The bike is great and pulls well . I'm riding without the screen but on the freeways its white knuckle all the way seems the its personality changes from calm to OMG I'm gonna crash at 65-70  :002: by the way what tire pressures are you running ?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Matt F. on July 24, 2015, 01:51:39 AM
I'm running roughly 32/28 -- tkc80 in front and k-60 scout in back.  Maybe a hair hard, but I commute on them and air them down when needed.  I've loved the combo -- an improvement on both sides, as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on July 24, 2015, 03:14:23 AM
I rarely ride freeways (none in my area), but do a lot of highway riding at 110-120 kph (68-75 mph) and have no issues with the X. I have done faster speeds when overtaking without any issues. It does get blown around a bit on windy days and by heavy vehicle turbulence, but not scary if you have good windy condition riding skills. Stability at high speed is probably more about your riding technique than any setup. Wind buffeting makes it uncomfortable, but should not really affect the stability. With my Madstad system, buffeting is minimal except in moderate to strong crosswinds. Providing you don't grip the handlebars too tight, stability should be good regardless of speed. You may get some front wheel wobble, but it will try to track the rear wheel provided that you don't fight against it. Mind you, doing long distance riding without a windscreen is going to wear you out, but there are some that do it.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Heavy on July 24, 2015, 11:59:35 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
I'm 5'9" 225 . The bike is great and pulls well . I'm riding without the screen but on the freeways its white knuckle all the way seems the its personality changes from calm to OMG I'm gonna crash at 65-70  :002: by the way what tire pressures are you running ?

What aspect causes the "OMG I'm gonna crash"?

I've ridden plenty of highway and the X is not bad at all for speeds in that range.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on July 24, 2015, 04:51:34 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
I'm 5'9" 225 . The bike is great and pulls well . I'm riding without the screen but on the freeways its white knuckle all the way seems the its personality changes from calm to OMG I'm gonna crash at 65-70  :002: by the way what tire pressures are you running ?

Relax and loosen up your grip on the bars.Riding requires finesse.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on July 25, 2015, 02:18:28 AM
*Originally Posted by Heavy [+]
What aspect causes the "OMG I'm gonna crash"?

I've ridden plenty of highway and the X is not bad at all for speeds in that range.

Bike all over the road, feeling of no control. Happens to me at 70 mph or so. I'll try loose grip and will play with tire pressures as soon as it stops raining. I have had it to 80 on side roads and feels fine. Just freeway riding. I'll experiment some more. Seems like if the bike fits you it's perfect.
PS not new to riding motorcycles.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: VKnid on July 25, 2015, 02:36:33 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
Bike all over the road, feeling of no control. Happens to me at 70 mph or so. I'll try loose grip and will play with tire pressures as soon as it stops raining. I have had it to 80 on side roads and feels fine. Just freeway riding. I'll experiment some more. Seems like if the bike fits you it's perfect.
PS not new to riding motorcycles.

I get the same feeling on the freeways. The bike seems much happier on back roads even at freeway speeds. I've chaulked it up to the poorer quality of the road surface and the increased air movement in the freeways.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on July 25, 2015, 02:46:05 AM
I am running 36/42 factory spec tire pressures Will try 32/38 next ride. Let's see how it feels.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on July 25, 2015, 04:09:02 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
I am running 36/42 factory spec tire pressures Will try 32/38 next ride. Let's see how it feels.
If you run those reduced pressures with the stock tires be very careful any less than 36 in the front will cause cupping and heat buildup and that will make the bike handle real bad  try dropping the rear to 40 but no less   do you have your rear preload on the stock setting  if not put it there and this will change the front fork rake a little and slow down the front end - works for me
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Matt F. on July 25, 2015, 12:17:58 PM
Not to conflict with motorboy -- who I believe has more experience than me -- but my handling got better when I stiffened up the pre load a few clicks.  Which makes sense for us heavier guys....

Have you checked your fork oil?  Could you have a significantly out of balance front tire? Just trying to think of any explanation as it seems like your problem isn't buffeting as I'd once thought.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on July 25, 2015, 02:30:43 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
If you run those reduced pressures with the stock tires be very careful any less than 36 in the front will cause cupping and heat buildup and that will make the bike handle real bad  try dropping the rear to 40 but no less   do you have your rear preload on the stock setting  if not put it there and this will change the front fork rake a little and slow down the front end - works for me
The preload is at the stock setting of 3 . Ill turn up it to 5 and see (i'm 225lbs) I'll play with the tires (+-)2-4lbs .No tire balance issue.
By the way I bought a motowerks  1.25" lowering kit so I can flatfoot. I have not installed it as of yet.. Will that make it worse you think ?
Weather sucks, dont think I'll be doing much this week end.
Love all the different opinons and people trying to help, a true community we have here. :152:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on July 25, 2015, 07:00:38 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
If you run those reduced pressures with the stock tires be very careful any less than 36 in the front will cause cupping and heat buildup and that will make the bike handle real bad  try dropping the rear to 40 but no less   do you have your rear preload on the stock setting  if not put it there and this will change the front fork rake a little and slow down the front end - works for me

I have been at 33F and 36 rear for 3500 miles,5500 total.I am nearing the end of the life for the Scorpions.I have not had any cupping in either tire.I'm also a fat bastard at 5'8" and 230lbs in gear.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on July 25, 2015, 07:26:35 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I have been at 33F and 36 rear for 3500 miles,5500 total.I am nearing the end of the life for the Scorpions.I have not had any cupping in either tire.I'm also a fat bastard at 5'8" and 230lbs in gear.
What kind of ride/handling difference did you find at those tire pressures ?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on July 25, 2015, 07:34:20 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
What kind of ride/handling difference did you find at those tire pressures ?

Better grip, and the suspension worked better, because the tires weren't bouncing around like over inflated basketballs.I don't have as many problems with the suspension bottoming out, with me, and gear strapped to the back.It may not be as noticeable with light weight riders.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on July 25, 2015, 07:38:27 PM
Thanks. As I thought so but great to know from some one who has done so. Now if the damn monsoon would die down.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on July 25, 2015, 07:42:48 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
Thanks. As I thought so but great to know from some one who has done so. Now if the damn monsoon would die down.

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on July 25, 2015, 07:43:32 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
The preload is at the stock setting of 3 . Ill turn up it to 5 and see (i'm 225lbs) I'll play with the tires (+-)2-4lbs .No tire balance issue.
By the way I bought a motowerks  1.25" lowering kit so I can flatfoot. I have not installed it as of yet.. Will that make it worse you think ?
Weather sucks, dont think I'll be doing much this week end.
Love all the different opinons and people trying to help, a true community we have here. :152:
If you install the lowering kit make sure you take a measurement at a fixed point say the rear foot peg and pull the fork tubes up the different in the two measurement if not the front will be waaay high and the bike will handle like a chopper
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on July 25, 2015, 07:46:01 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
If you install the lowering kit make sure you take a measurement at a fixed point say the rear foot peg and pull the fork tubes up the different in the two measurement if not the front will be waaay high and the bike will handle like a chopper

That is to true.I did that on a bike.It also slows down turn in.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on July 25, 2015, 07:48:21 PM
The kit lowers the rear 1.25" I'll lower the front the same. That's what the instructions say as well.
https://www.motowerk.com/uploads/Honda_CB500_Lowering_Front_Suspension_Instructions.pdf (https://www.motowerk.com/uploads/Honda_CB500_Lowering_Front_Suspension_Instructions.pdf)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on July 25, 2015, 07:59:54 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I have been at 33F and 36 rear for 3500 miles,5500 total.I am nearing the end of the life for the Scorpions.I have not had any cupping in either tire.I'm also a fat bastard at 5'8" and 230lbs in gear.
Maybe you got such low tire mileage due to the reduced PSI  and as far as this bouncing thing goes and other things said   I'm not even going there   you need to think radial tire  what your doing and encouraging others to do  would apply to bias tires   think how the side walls work on a radial tire low psi will cause a heat built up quick due to the flexing of the sidewalls which could end up with the rider having a very bad day  and your weight and mine I'm at 220lbs is even more reason to run close to Honda specs   
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on July 25, 2015, 08:42:30 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Maybe you got such low tire mileage due to the reduced PSI  and as far as this bouncing thing goes and other things said   I'm not even going there   you need to think radial tire  what your doing and encouraging others to do  would apply to bias tires   think how the side walls work on a radial tire low psi will cause a heat built up quick due to the flexing of the sidewalls which could end up with the rider having a very bad day  and your weight and mine I'm at 220lbs is even more reason to run close to Honda specs

I get what you're saying.I never had heat issues with my tires on the X,which is a sure sign they are being run to low and over worked.Even on extremely hot 90 degree days,I can grab my tires.They're not overly hot,considering temps.One day I shall own an IR temp gun.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on July 26, 2015, 05:06:30 AM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I get what you're saying.I never had heat issues with my tires on the X,which is a sure sign they are being run to low and over worked.Even on extremely hot 90 degree days,I can grab my tires.They're not overly hot,considering temps.One day I shall own an IR temp gun.
Back in the day the old 10% rule worked well with tube tires   not any more   a temp gun would be a good idea but what values would you use  how hot is to hot  can't go by racing specs total different tires   might be worth looking into
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on July 26, 2015, 05:03:18 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Back in the day the old 10% rule worked well with tube tires   not any more   a temp gun would be a good idea but what values would you use  how hot is to hot  can't go by racing specs total different tires   might be worth looking into

The temp gun give a base line at different air pressures.If going down a few pounds raises temps any significant amount,raise the pressure.I've felt no flex or give in the tires from running the pressures I am running.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Hlep on July 27, 2015, 07:55:20 AM
The Honda tall screen came with my bike and produced noise and turbulence in both the high and low positions. On the weekend I replaced it with the standard screen in the high position and that has made a huge improvement with less noise and no turbulence. It's still not as quiet as when I stand on the pegs so I'll try the standard screen in the low position and see how that works.

Our experience of noise and turbulence is very subjective so of course YMMV.

 
Title: Can my MRA -X Creen Sport be modified to work better?
Post by: scharfg on July 29, 2015, 03:35:05 AM
Hi folks I needed a replacement screen for my X in a hurry as I was going on a dual sport ride so I did some quick research and as the Madstad product was not available in time (which my brief research seemed to indicate was the best one for pushing the air over the top of the helmet) I ordered the MRA X-creen sport with the top laminar lip.

Unfortunately it does not give me the quiet bubble I'm looking for so I'm wondering if it can be modified to do that or do I have to replace it.

I currently have it in the highest mounting point offered by the stock bracket holes.

The best setting I can find is having the laminar lip directly above the top of the fixed screen and its laying back at the same angle as the fixed screen.  If I move the laminar lip up or forward then the air gets louder.

I'm 5' 9" and I have clean air hitting me at about chin level but I need to push that up to the top of my helmet or higher.

Have folks of my height be able to successfully modify the screen (ie: spacers or ?) or have they had to replace the screen?

Is there any point in trying the lower stock bracket mounting holes to drop the height of the screen?
Title: Re: Can my MRA -X Creen Sport be modified to work better?
Post by: EscCtrl on July 29, 2015, 04:10:32 AM
*Originally Posted by scharfg [+]
Hi folks I needed a replacement screen for my X in a hurry as I was going on a dual sport ride so I did some quick research and as the Madstad product was not available in time (which my brief research seemed to indicate was the best one for pushing the air over the top of the helmet) I ordered the MRA X-creen sport with the top laminar lip.

Unfortunately it does not give me the quiet bubble I'm looking for so I'm wondering if it can be modified to do that or do I have to replace it.

I currently have it in the highest mounting point offered by the stock bracket holes.

The best setting I can find is having the laminar lip directly above the top of the fixed screen and its laying back at the same angle as the fixed screen.  If I move the laminar lip up or forward then the air gets louder.

I'm 5' 9" and I have clean air hitting me at about chin level but I need to push that up to the top of my helmet or higher.

Have folks of my height be able to successfully modify the screen (ie: spacers or ?) or have they had to replace the screen?

Is there any point in trying the lower stock bracket mounting holes to drop the height of the screen?

If you read back through this thread,there is many that have mentioned adding a wind spoiler to the top of their screen.It's a simple bolt on deal,it doesn't change the windscreen,and has a good bit of adjustability.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: scharfg on July 29, 2015, 04:15:51 AM
The MRA I have has that laminar lip at the top of the screen.  Unfortuanately it does not push the air over the top of my helmet, it stops at about my chin level so I was wondering if there are any mod that have worked with that screen to push the air higher.

When you look on MRA's web site they have a cartoon graphic that shows how the wind works on the various screen models.  It does show the air going over the head of the rider for the model I purchased but no matter how I adjust the lip at the top I can't get the "quiet" zone to work.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on July 29, 2015, 04:28:37 AM
*Originally Posted by scharfg [+]
The MRA I have has that laminar lip at the top of the screen.  Unfortuanately it does not push the air over the top of my helmet, it stops at about my chin level so I was wondering if there are any mod that have worked with that screen to push the air higher.

When you look on MRA's web site they have a cartoon graphic that shows how the wind works on the various screen models.  It does show the air going over the head of the rider for the model I purchased but no matter how I adjust the lip at the top I can't get the "quiet" zone to work.

i under stand now.I thought you had one of those laminar edge mouldings that attaches to the top of the screen.
Title: Re: Palmer Products windscreen adjuster bracket
Post by: Chris S on August 10, 2015, 03:19:04 PM
Seems to me after reading all this that, short of luck, adjustment is the key to making a screen work, including for some, adjusting the screen right off.
My bike came with what may be the taller Honda optional screen (17” high) which at me height 6 1 felt angled too far back. At speed the airflow hit my lid above the eyes, though I can’t say it was especially uncomfortable, noisy or buffety, seeing as I’m riding a motor bike.

I could have tried spacing out the top mounts an inch to steepen the angle but decided to resist the usual bodging and try the Palmer adjustable bracket mentioned a few posts back. Cost me £116 in black with adjuster knobs and an accessory bar. Took 20 mins to fit.

Just come off a 750-mile ride with the screen set on the higher Honda level and then height 2/3 on the Palmer and 3/3 fully forward. Then tried 2/3 forward. All up that gives 18 potential positions.
Can’t say it was a night and day transformation, but wearing my cheaper and noisier Bell Moto 9 lid didn’t help.
Seems to work best over 70 which suggests angling it back to 2/3 might make it better at low speed, or maybe my screen is too narrow. It sure would have been a tiring ride without a screen.

More on my website (http://adventure-motorcyclingh.com/2015/07/27/honda-cb500x-rally-raid-bashplate-palmer-windshield-adjuster/)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on August 10, 2015, 08:24:24 PM
Well boy's and girl's I need to share this (remember I'm naked)  I got in the National Cycle Deflector DX  I didn't have to cut it like I though  mounted in between the speedo and handlebars does not hit anything turning the bars side to side clear good view of the speedo and went for a little ride  the SOB works no ear plugs no face shield no buffing better the stock shield  no matter what you did with it  better than Givi no up draft  this is just the first round I have a lot more I can do with it  but so far it's very positive  what does it look like  Ok I guess  I'll improve on it  looks better than a lot of setups I see  and did I say   IT'S WORKS -- for me anyway
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: András L on August 15, 2015, 03:27:54 PM
Has anyone tried windscreen spoilers with the taller Honda screen? (I read back, but only found example for the small original screen).
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Britchris on August 22, 2015, 07:36:36 PM
I've been riding with the stock screen in the lower position. I'm 6'1" and this lessens the buffeting considerably when compared to the high screen position.
However........I just got rid of my Shoei Multitech modular helmet which had the flip up chin bar and replaced it with a Shoei RF1200 full face helmet.
Not cheap but oh what a difference.
The wind noise level is way down.
Wind buffeting at speed has all but disappeared.
As I said, not an inexpensive option but it has solved a lot of issues for me without having to go through the process of buying several different screens and then discarding them because the don't work for me.
It has the added bonus of being extremely capable of fulfilling it's primary role. Keeping my head intact in the event of an off.
Just a thought but a change of helmet may offer a solution to windscreen woes.
Chris C
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: scharfg on August 23, 2015, 04:04:49 AM
*Originally Posted by András L [+]
Has anyone tried windscreen spoilers with the taller Honda screen? (I read back, but only found example for the small original screen).

Juan on the ADV cb500x forum has the taller screen with the adjustable air foil.  I've asked him about it but no answer.  He's 5'4" tall with a 30" inseam so perhaps its working fine because of that.

I have the MRA X-creen with adjustable spoiler.  I think it's about 16" tall.  I'm 5'9" tall with 32" inseam and the wind hits me at about the chin level so I want to push it over my head.

All different adjustments of the spoiler do not make things any better, so the spoiler is angled at the same angle as the screen and is basically just lengthening the screen.  If I push it forward/up/down the wind just gets louder not less.  This was only tested on the higher setting of the Honda bracket.

So taking suggestions from folks who have used spacers I tried that as neither MRA or the store I bought the screen from would do a return.

So I tried using 1/2" spacers on the bottom only, no change.  Then I tried 1" spacers on the bottom and it moved the wind up to my nose or so.  Then I tried 1" spacers at the bottom and 1/2" spacers at the top and that pushed the air to my brow.  Then I tried 1" spacers top and bottom and it brought the air back down to my chin.  I didn't try anything at the lower screen punt setting.  There is no buffeting, just wind noise.

So......

I'm going to try the 18" Madstad bracket/screen system which worked well on my Wee as I want to push the wind over my helmet.  I would have bought it first but I was going on the ID Backroads ride and needed the a screen sooner than I could get the Madstad, yes that sucks!  Well at least I can use the MRA spoiler on the Mad Stad if it needs it! :0)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on August 23, 2015, 04:39:52 AM
*Originally Posted by scharfg [+]

I'm going to try the 18" Madstad bracket/screen system which worked well on my Wee as I want to push the wind over my helmet.  I would have bought it first but I was going on the ID Backroads ride and needed the a screen sooner than I could get the Madstad, yes that sucks!  Well at least I can use the MRA spoiler on the Mad Stad if it needs it! :0)

You may need the 20" screen as I am about 1" shorter than you, and find that with an 18" screen and the brackets set at the highest position and angle, wind hits me at the top of my helmet.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: scharfg on August 23, 2015, 07:38:53 AM
Hey thanks for the tip!  Better to have too much screen rather than not enough!

Funny on the Wee the screen worked best at nearest the lowest position, not so on the X.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: András L on September 05, 2015, 08:12:01 PM
I am currently using the taller Honda OEM screen, but it creates quite a lot of noise for me. The ride gets quieter when I stand up.

So, I am considering ordering Puig touring screen with the adjustable visor. I checked the price of the screen and it looked good to me, but what is the deal with that tiny visor? It costs the same as the windscreen. Is it worth the value?

At any rate, I will probably order them both and see how it works out.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rapps on September 06, 2015, 11:39:04 AM
I'm very happy with the tall Honda screen

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: willielee3 on September 13, 2015, 10:39:03 AM
I just ordered this shield from 118 Bikes in Thailand. It looks interesting but I am not sure if it is a Honda shield or they simply added a sticker to it. Should have it in a few weeks and I will post a review.

I currently use the standard shield with a Wunderlich attachment. Seems to work well but does not offer enough wind protection. This is especially true for the cool days.....I usually ride the KLR on those days.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161813206658?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161813206658?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Their Facebook Page

https://www.facebook.com/118Bike (https://www.facebook.com/118Bike)

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on September 13, 2015, 07:13:23 PM
*Originally Posted by willielee3 [+]
I just ordered this shield from 118 Bikes in Thailand. It looks interesting but I am not sure if it is a Honda shield or they simply added a sticker to it. Should have it in a few weeks and I will post a review.

I currently use the standard shield with a Wunderlich attachment. Seems to work well but does not offer enough wind protection. This is especially true for the cool days.....I usually ride the KLR on those days.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161813206658?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/161813206658?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Their Facebook Page

https://www.facebook.com/118Bike (https://www.facebook.com/118Bike)

Thanks for sharing that.I'm gonna jump on that deal when I get paid again.It looks like a Givi.

Oh,just checked shipping and expected delivery times.May have to reconsider.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: willielee3 on September 13, 2015, 10:08:48 PM
Wow you are correct....it looks like a GIVI screen. The only exception is the light gray color.....GIVI only makes a clear screen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on September 15, 2015, 03:07:15 AM
*Originally Posted by willielee3 [+]
Wow you are correct....it looks like a GIVI screen. The only exception is the light gray color.....GIVI only makes a clear screen.

Givi sells there stuff under other names,Kappa being the main one.This place may have Givi producing private label products, and then they add the Honda label.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: sarcaster on September 15, 2015, 07:18:05 PM
I have the Puig touring screen which definitely keeps the wind off my upper body, but once I hit 60MPH all of the wind hits the top of my helmet and it becomes very distracting.  I'm 6Ft tall and if I duck down just a bit, I can avoid the wind, but it is not a comfortable position to be in.

So today I ordered the Puig Clip on Visor which I really hope is the last piece to comfort at 60MPH+.   I'll give an update once I receive it and test it out.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: webrown02 on September 17, 2015, 04:24:41 PM
I ordered the 118bikes shield too.  Looking at 3 weeks or so delivery from Thailand. I'll post a review when it comes in.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on September 18, 2015, 02:20:26 AM
*Originally Posted by webrown02 [+]
I ordered the 118bikes shield too.  Looking at 3 weeks or so delivery from Thailand. I'll post a review when it comes in.

 :028:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: sarcaster on September 18, 2015, 02:26:21 AM
Got my Puig Visor today - easy enough to install, but to adjust the angle or height, you have to loosen it from the windshield - then adjust - then tighten it all again.  So for now it is in the default position, and I will hopefully test this weekend with an Allen Key in my pocket and try a few different angles to see what works best for me.  Hopefully this takes the last bit of buffeting off the top of my helmet.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: sarcaster on September 18, 2015, 02:27:50 AM
pic of the puig
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on September 18, 2015, 02:38:01 AM
Nice! There is a cheap knock off of sorts on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231498424962?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/231498424962?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: sarcaster on September 21, 2015, 01:07:36 PM
Did a few small trips since putting the puig clip on visor on, and have to say that it does make a big difference form me.  It is set up close to the default angle and now the wind no longer is hitting me in the forehead area.  It feels like a totally different ride now.  Much more comfortable and also unusual as now I can actually hear the bike when I go over 40 mph.  Before the wind noise would drown out the engine, but now the wind noise has subsided enough that I may ditch the earplugs.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: sarcaster on September 22, 2015, 02:19:43 AM
Did even more riding today.....before work - during lunch and after work - and I have to say this visor is the coolest thing ever. Had it up to 70mph which I rarely see the need to do, and still heard the motor.  I'm so pleased with the wind noise reduction.  I recommend it to anyone who is 6ft tall.  If I lift my head up a few inches, all the noise is right back so it may not be better for someone taller.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on September 25, 2015, 08:00:16 PM
Here's my cheap and neat windshield spacers w/part #s and sizes. Hope it helps someone. The whole this came to less then $6.00. I was not able to find the stainless bolts locally but got these to test fitment, will swap out now that I have the size down . Stock wellnuts reused.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on September 25, 2015, 08:01:40 PM
take the guess work out of the sizes
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on September 25, 2015, 08:09:56 PM
*Originally Posted by rapps [+]
I'm very happy with the tall Honda screen

How tall are you ?
 I wish everyone would post their height since that seems to be variable here. Sure would save some of us a lot of aggravation and expense experimenting.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on September 25, 2015, 08:20:04 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
If you install the lowering kit make sure you take a measurement at a fixed point say the rear foot peg and pull the fork tubes up the different in the two measurement if not the front will be waaay high and the bike will handle like a chopper
:306:
Lowered the back - left the front stock. No discernible difference in handling or turning. I left the front the way it came, if anything maybe a little more stable at speed? maybe my imagination but no negative effects by not lowering it to match.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: willielee3 on September 26, 2015, 09:59:23 PM
Received the 118 Bikes tinted windshield today and what an improvement!!

Buffeting and wind noise are reduced significantly. I could actually hear the engine at 80 mph and it sounds sweet!!

I am 5'10 with a 32 inch inseam.

here is the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB500X-2014-2015-Windshield-Windscreen-Smoke-/161813206658?hash=item25acd19682&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB500X-2014-2015-Windshield-Windscreen-Smoke-/161813206658?hash=item25acd19682&vxp=mtr)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on September 27, 2015, 02:38:40 AM
Did you pay $30 for shipping?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: willielee3 on September 27, 2015, 11:12:26 AM
I sure did...the total price was only $ 90.00 with shipping. Well worth it!!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on September 27, 2015, 03:00:01 PM
*Originally Posted by willielee3 [+]
Received the 118 Bikes tinted windshield today and what an improvement!!

Buffeting and wind noise are reduced significantly. I could actually hear the engine at 80 mph and it sounds sweet!!

I am 5'10 with a 32 inch inseam.

here is the link

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB500X-2014-2015-Windshield-Windscreen-Smoke-/161813206658?hash=item25acd19682&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB500X-2014-2015-Windshield-Windscreen-Smoke-/161813206658?hash=item25acd19682&vxp=mtr)
Do you look thru or look over the windshield at your height ?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on September 27, 2015, 08:44:19 PM
*Originally Posted by willielee3 [+]
I sure did...the total price was only $ 90.00 with shipping. Well worth it!!

Thanks.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: willielee3 on September 27, 2015, 10:33:33 PM
No problem looking OVER the shield. Took it for another ride today and I very happy.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on September 28, 2015, 01:53:33 AM
*Originally Posted by willielee3 [+]
No problem looking OVER the shield. Took it for another ride today and I very happy.
Thanks for the response. Seems like a likely purchase for me. Can't beat the cost .   

Just ordered one !  :152:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on September 29, 2015, 05:02:28 AM
Hope the screen works out for you. Seems a good bargain so be good to hear another review.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: johnnymceldoo on September 30, 2015, 12:09:01 AM
Hi willielee3,

Thanks for the heads up on the 118bikes windshield, I've got one coming my was as well. How did the new screen interact with your hand guards?

thanks

Jack
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: willielee3 on September 30, 2015, 01:18:14 AM
The shield actually hits the factory handguards.  Not a big deal to me....I am just happy riding with an increased level of comfort and reduced noise level.

Love the packaging...string only - no tape!!!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on September 30, 2015, 07:21:37 AM
*Originally Posted by willielee3 [+]
The shield actually hits the factory handguards.  Not a big deal to me....I am just happy riding with an increased level of comfort and reduced noise level.

Love the packaging...string only - no tape!!!

So does that mean you cant use the steering lock with this screen installed? Not that I use that lock very often.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: webrown02 on September 30, 2015, 07:13:42 PM
I just received and installed my 118bikes screen.  It is in the high position and I am 6' with a 32" inseam.  It is a big improvement over the stock screen.  I was only able to get up to 55 mph since installing it and the wind seems to hit the top of my helmet now.  Much quieter and I can feel the air coming into the vents on my helmet much better for some reason (could be its a cool day).  I'll take a different route home and see how it does at faster speeds.  You can lock your front wheel, but I don't have handguards.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: webrown02 on October 01, 2015, 12:56:10 AM
I think it's really good. Went 70 mph with visor up and was able to look side to side without any wind pressure, two things that weren't possible before. I'm glad I purchased it.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on October 01, 2015, 07:21:17 AM
 :062:
Looking forward to getting mine now.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: sk8nsanta on October 06, 2015, 03:23:04 AM
Got the 118 windscreen on my ebay watch list now, thanks guys.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on October 09, 2015, 03:49:27 AM
Installed the 118 windshield today. Not bad looking. Much quieter. Hits the mirror stalks in the lower position at full lock. Lots of turbulence at 50 mph on up at the top of my helmet. I'm 5'9" 29" inseam. Shakes the top of the helmet in the lower position.
Completely different in the higher position. Mirror stalks easily clear the windshield. No harsh turbulence. Not great but a lot better than stock. Rode at 50 mph with visor up no sunglasses. Did not dry my contacts or bother my eyes with no sunglasses. Needs some fine tuning with spacers maybe. Have not been on the freeway yet,  so we shall see if it works for me at 70-75 mph. Overall a good buy, considering the price a great buy. $90.00 shipped.
Will update after a proper ride on the freeway.  :821:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on October 10, 2015, 02:25:25 AM
Well the new windshield did not solve the freeway issue. 60 mph on up lots of turbulence. Different then the original windshield but not much better. Frustrated I took the windshield off and went for a hard ride with no windshield. Felt awesome no shake no crazy noise felt like a great little bike again. Had it up to 85 mph and was great. Nothing scary like the uneasy feel with the windshield. Hit a few more bugs tho.
Glad it works for most, does not work for my size. Anyone want to buy a two day old windshield ?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on October 10, 2015, 11:09:21 AM
When on the freeway are you in traffic, riding behind cars and such? I've found that riding in dirty air is never good and I don't think any screen is going to help much there. I was on the highway yesterday going 110-110 km/hr and found a bit of turbulence when around traffic but then when I got on to some coastal roads going around the same speed it was much nicer. With ear plugs in was like floating on a cloud. This is with the stock screen on the high setting. I think I'll lower mine though since if I move my head up a tiny bit while riding it gets even quieter.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: grnd0 on October 11, 2015, 01:12:30 AM
I got one of the 118 shields and it sucks just like any
screen on this bike. For Sale, used 25 miles, like new,
$70. shipped USA.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on October 11, 2015, 01:25:26 AM
*Originally Posted by grnd0 [+]
I got one of the 118 shields and it sucks just like any
screen on this bike. For Sale, used 25 miles, like new,
$70. shipped USA.
... that's about how I feel , bike maybe up for sale if this nasty turbulence issue is not resolved. Love it one day and hate it the next

:232:.Here's a picture of the best windshield on this bike so far.....


(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/1215e7490c7902c26.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on October 11, 2015, 02:02:00 AM
I use a Madstad screen and have no turbulence even at high speed. Large vehicle turbulence is present, but minimal. It is usually only significant in strong crosswinds. I think the difference is the space at the bottom of the screen that allows wind flow from below that eliminates the vacuum that causes turbulence. It also uses wind deflectors on top of the fairings. Madstad is expensive, but I believe that they will give you a refund if you are not happy. Windshields in general are dependent upon your tolerance, so it may just be that you have a very low threshold meaning that no screen will work for you. Taking off the screen and cutting off the brackets is one option, but you may find it hard to sell if you decide to get rid of the X.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on October 11, 2015, 02:44:52 AM
Madstads too big for my taste.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on October 11, 2015, 04:09:27 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
Madstads too big for my taste.

That may be the heart of your problem. Small screens do little to reduce turbulence, and in some cases, make it worse.  If you don't like large screens, you may be out of luck.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on October 11, 2015, 04:24:03 AM
After messing with mine since day one and sawing off my brackets  and than bolting a windshield to the handlebars  I now know what the problem is  the windshield brackets are far from your face  the bolt on shield work very good with no up draft no beating on top of my helmet  and no need for ear plugs(although I still wear them on long rides)   that is why the mastad system seems to work more than any other system  the shield can be tilted toward your face decreasing the distance from face to shield
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ghartm on October 11, 2015, 03:53:29 PM
Motorboy do you have a picture of your handlebar mounted screen. I still have an 82 Yamaha Seca 650 that I put a national cycle windshield on and it works well.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on October 11, 2015, 04:31:07 PM
*Originally Posted by ghartm [+]
Motorboy do you have a picture of your handlebar mounted screen. I still have an 82 Yamaha Seca 650 that I put a national cycle windshield on and it works well.
I do not  phone old style  I can tell you it is a National Cycle Deflector DX  and it was not just a bolt on project  I used hardware from other National Cycle shields I have owned  and turned it into a four point mount shield and had to remake all the rods  what I ended up with is a shield  that I can look over the top still see the complete speedo and warning lights does not touch anything when turning the handlebars AND WORKS  I'm very pleased with it  this one mod has turned the bike into a keeper
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on October 11, 2015, 04:53:04 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
... that's about how I feel , bike maybe up for sale if this nasty turbulence issue is not resolved. Love it one day and hate it the next
:232:.Here's a picture of the best windshield on this bike so far.....

I prefer this:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/54f0280c-42cb-4333-bd41-ea883375b7cf_zps760e1c2b.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/eclipseANDjunk/54f0280c-42cb-4333-bd41-ea883375b7cf_zps760e1c2b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on October 11, 2015, 06:41:12 PM
*Originally Posted by jsonder [+]
I prefer this:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/54f0280c-42cb-4333-bd41-ea883375b7cf_zps760e1c2b.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/eclipseANDjunk/54f0280c-42cb-4333-bd41-ea883375b7cf_zps760e1c2b.jpg.html)
I have seen all your posts about no windshield. That's why I took mine off. Bent the mounts down flat a bit so they don't stick out as much. Going to ride it like that for a bit. Still might get rid of the the bike in the future. Never will I buy another bike without taking it for a long ride.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on October 11, 2015, 07:32:19 PM
Going naked.
Windshield for sale 118bikes $ 75.00 shipped in the US . 15 miles and less than 1 week old send PM.
https://www.cb500x.com/index.php?topic=3308.msg31138#msg31138 (https://www.cb500x.com/index.php?topic=3308.msg31138#msg31138)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on October 12, 2015, 03:34:02 AM
I admit, I hope to ride this bike until they plant me.   :169:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on October 12, 2015, 03:56:49 AM
*Originally Posted by jsonder [+]
I admit, I hope to ride this bike until they plant me.   :169:
I have said that a few times too  seems I just keep getting older and living and buying more bikes  I guess the last one will be when I'm dead
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on October 12, 2015, 08:27:09 AM
windshields this windscreen that windscreen i'm 6 foot tall i'm 5.4  4 foot tall and so and so on this subject is the most talked about it so boring you ride a naked bike you will get wind you are out in the open air. what happens when it rains what umbrella do you use a big one  a red one so riding you will get wind and get wet when it rains . ITs called motorcycling and its fun err!! end off rant  doc  sorry if upset any one in advance.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Chippy jon on October 12, 2015, 10:27:08 PM
 :028: :460:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: grnd0 on October 13, 2015, 12:59:35 AM
118 screen for sale. $70. shipped USA only. Like
new. PayPal
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MCH500X on October 13, 2015, 06:01:49 PM
*Originally Posted by crazy doctor [+]
windshields this windscreen that windscreen i'm 6 foot tall i'm 5.4  4 foot tall and so and so on this subject is the most talked about it so boring you ride a naked bike you will get wind you are out in the open air. what happens when it rains what umbrella do you use a big one  a red one so riding you will get wind and get wet when it rains . ITs called motorcycling and its fun err!! end off rant  doc  sorry if upset any one in advance.

Hahaha! You're not crazy after all. I too don't understand the wind buffering fuss. I ride to experience my environment. When I don't want to experience that, I take my car. Heat, cup holders, loud music etc.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: fireflyer239 on October 30, 2015, 01:27:35 AM
Spacing the stock shield out just 1/4" made a huge difference for me.  Previously, the wind was buffeting and hitting me under the chin.  Raising the shield to the upper position moved the "wind line" up to my face shield area.  After spacing 1/4" to allow more air under the shield and using the upper position, there's just smooth air going past my face shield.  If I lower my head at mid- to high speeds, things will get quieter, which tells me that perhaps the ultimate setup may be a taller screen, also spaced out a bit from the mounts. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: gamerbfk on November 12, 2015, 01:48:01 AM
SIX MONTHS AGO I posted on this thread about getting my windshield. -- I'm really glad I got it.

Last week got unexpectedly caught in a hail storm. Our weather can come up fast.
THIS STORM led to a new thing, for me. I shifted my riding position like I was a jockey on a horse (not upright) and really leaned into the windshield, as close as possible.

It was great. It really keep the hail from hitting me hard. I feel like it 'saved the day' 

(Although I was certainly cold and wet when I got home).

I'm really enjoying the Honda CBX500! Nice  see all the cool and inventive add-ons here on this thread and others, read the stories, etc.

Here I got the bike because I liked the upright riding position (and other reasons). Now I'm riding it like a jockey, leaning into the windshield!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Handypete on November 12, 2015, 05:52:47 PM
*Originally Posted by crazy doctor [+]
windshields this windscreen that windscreen i'm 6 foot tall i'm 5.4  4 foot tall and so and so on this subject is the most talked about it so boring you ride a naked bike you will get wind you are out in the open air. what happens when it rains what umbrella do you use a big one  a red one so riding you will get wind and get wet when it rains . ITs called motorcycling and its fun err!! end off rant  doc  sorry if upset any one in advance.

 :186:  I'm sure that felt good to get it off your shoulders . . . :047:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: gamerbfk on November 12, 2015, 06:51:42 PM
Humm...I accept the APOLOGY IN ADVANCE of recent post (above) but still do wonder why someone would go to a thread about Windshield Options and make a big deal of how they don't like windshields!?

Do you also go to Vegan stores, or something like that, and tell people they should eat Raw Meat?

Ride naked for all I care. But maybe your self-promoted, vaunted rugged individualism deserves it's own thread.
It seems very juvenile.

:186:  THIS felt good to get it off my shoulders . . . :047:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on November 12, 2015, 06:56:38 PM
I have the 118bikes windshield which is just a dark tinted version of the Givi with Honda across the bottom.I had it on the low position and did a solid 100miles with speeds up to 80mph.Anything above 50mph was unbearable.I could feel the buffeting and pressure on the back of my helmet real bad.There must have been a pressure drop, or something, inside my helmet.My ear plugs kept popping out.I've never had that happen, ever.I have since upped the windshield to the upper position.I haven't been able to ride yet.I was installing my Seat Concepts kit yesterday,and realized at the last moment,that I didn't have any staples that were the right length.I hope to pick some up next week.I leave tomorrow to go out of town for the weekend, with my girlfriend and our kid.My specs for reference, 5'8" 29 inch inseam,maybe 28".I am long in the body and short in the legs.I sit on the bike like someone that is 5'10" tall.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on November 13, 2015, 04:26:54 AM
*Originally Posted by gamerbfk [+]
Humm...I accept the APOLOGY IN ADVANCE of recent post (above) but still do wonder why someone would go to a thread about Windshield Options and make a big deal of how they don't like windshields!?

Do you also go to Vegan stores, or something like that, and tell people they should eat Raw Meat?

Ride naked for all I care. But maybe your self-promoted, vaunted rugged individualism deserves it's own thread.
It seems very juvenile.

:186:  THIS felt good to get it off my shoulders . . . :047:

I'm glad that your shoulders are lighter.

Riding with no windscreen is a "free" option for people who cannot find a suitable windscreen.  Reminding folks that there is this option doesn't harm anyone.  Finally, some of us are just cheap!   :150:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: gamerbfk on November 13, 2015, 05:27:54 AM
@ jsonder -- [And the No Windshield advocates] I was more responding to the recent post by Crazy Doctor...our site's PCP.
*Originally Posted by crazy doctor [+]
windshields this windscreen that windscreen i'm 6 foot tall i'm 5.4  4 foot tall and so and so on this subject is the most talked about it so boring you ride a naked bike you will get wind you are out in the open air. what happens when it rains what umbrella do you use a big one  a red one so riding you will get wind and get wet when it rains . ITs called motorcycling and its fun err!! end off rant  doc  sorry if upset any one in advance.

But because of your Reply and now reading back a few pages I do see, though, you are an advocate of No Windshield.

I still wonder why you feel the need to tell us your No Windshield opinion as an alleged 'option' on a thread where almost everyone is looking to get a windshield and considering the options of what they should buy.
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Plus, some of these No Windshield posts have a slightly annoying attitude: Real Men Don't Need Windshields. Riding Naked Is the Only Way to Go, etc.

It seems being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian; sort of like an Internet troll.

ALSO
I don't know if your recent pleas of poverty are sincere. Is it a fabrication to invoke sympathy and your now rationale?
Looking at the photos of your Naked Bike I happen to notice a nice set of matching saddle bags. And, of course, you have a nice Honda. That's not too poor.

From your Naked Bike photos (except for the nice bags) it would seem you're not as 'cheap' as you say you are.

As far our your nice set of matching saddle bags, btw, it my view: Real Men don't need bags. Just sit on your luggage or stuff it under your jacked.Balance stuff on your head.. That's how I feel about matching saddle bags on a bike and I wanted to be sure to let you know.

Whenever I see another rider with matching saddle bags I tell them my views. It's what adults do.

But now that I think about your views more, let 'em sink in...I'm actually inspired by all your posts. Next week there is a community meeting to encourage Voter Registration.

I think I will attend and tell everyone: Voting is a waste of time!

Yes...I'm actually inspired by all your posts, now that I think about it. After the community political meeting,  Sunday I think I will go to church, stand up and shout. "There is no God!'

Real Men Don't Vote. Real Men are Atheist. Real Men Ride Naked Bikes (without matching saddlebags). That's just how I feel about it.

And now inspired...I feel the need to tell the political voters my views of their rigged, waste of time elections, and tell the church-going believers they'd be better off praying to Santa Claus... and go to a thread about Windshield options and tell people not to buy any windshields at all...then, of course, go to a Motorcycle Saddle Bag Options thread and tell everyone there Real Men Don't Need Saddle Bags..

(Note: Some sarcasm intended in these final words).

But, for sure, I'm going to the gym and tell people they shouldn't use any flotation devices.  -- Real Men (& Woman) have to learn to sink or swim.

This could be the start of a very liberating trend.

:186:  THIS felt good to get it off my shoulders . . . :047:

:150:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Rocker66 on November 13, 2015, 02:04:24 PM
I have been riding for almost 53 years with only bikes as my means of personal transport of which I have owned over 80. These have been of a very varied type and size. These days I prefer to ride with a screen and I don't think that it makes me any lesser rider or man. My wife who has been riding almost as long (also no car licence) prefers her Honda Hornet ( Honda 599) to be naked.
My point is that some prefer to ride with a screen and others a  naked bike. Neither is right or wrong just different. To suggest that either is more or less of a person than the other to my mind is completely unacceptable.
I might just add to say only real men ride naked bikes is also sexist and as such is also unacceptable as their are also lady riders out there
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Handypete on November 13, 2015, 03:01:48 PM
*Originally Posted by Rocker66 [+]
I have been riding for almost 53 years with only bikes as my means of personal transport of which I have owned over 80

Dude, you don't need Honda "X", you need a Honda Civic!   (They come equipped with radios, cupholders and as a standard feature, windscreens!)

Here's one for the hardcore biker:  :821:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on November 13, 2015, 03:41:29 PM
Holy crap  this post has gone over the deep end  I don't see what's the big deal  some like shields some don't  some shields work some don't  every one is just expressing their opinion and sharing  I thought that is what were here for  maybe not  my self I had a shield than went naked now another kind of shield that works FOR ME  as personal as a windshield is how can one person tell another he is wrong  again don't see what's the big deal
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Muttley on November 13, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
*Originally Posted by Handypete [+]
Dude, you don't need Honda "X", you need a Honda Civic.

Dude, maybe you need to live and let live a little.

Here's one for the Civic owners  :821:
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Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Rocker66 on November 13, 2015, 06:07:16 PM
*Originally Posted by Handypete [+]
Dude, you don't need Honda "X", you need a Honda Civic!   (They come equipped with radios, cupholders and as a standard feature, windscreens!)

Here's one for the hardcore biker:  :821:
As I have survived nearly 69 years without a car licence. I really take exception to your comment. Until my accident 2 years I rode all the year round in the lat 15 years commuting 75 miles a day despite the fact that I had free train travel and the train stopped literally outside my office.
I would have thought that this qualifies me as a genuine biker.
Maybe this forum isn't as friendly as I thought
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Grim Rider on November 13, 2015, 07:52:07 PM
*Originally Posted by Rocker66 [+]
I would have thought that this qualifies me as a genuine biker.
Maybe this forum isn't as friendly as I thought

It definitely does my friend - don't let one thoughtless comment affect your opinion of everyone here (although some of us can be idiots at times too  :002:).
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on November 14, 2015, 12:41:50 AM
This thread has gone right off the rails. I could care less if you use a windshield or not, and I suspect that I am not the only one who feels this way. Instead of slinging mud at each other, how about we get back to posting constructive comments.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on November 14, 2015, 03:30:35 AM
Be interested to see if the new 2016 model has an improved stock screen. Seems more vertical than our old model, which is different from what I did to mine by adding spacers at the bottom to make it less vertical.

Some like me commute all year round in rain and cold so some sort of screen is nice. If I only rode in fair weather or lived somewhere where it was 100 degrees year round and no big bugs a screen would be less important!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on November 14, 2015, 06:16:53 AM
Winscreen to have or to have not that is up to the rider .what he or she wants .If we all thought the same all bikes would look  the same not worth falling out over it is an open forum to air our opinions The 2016 model does have a new screen larger than the old one and looks better the new model has some good inprovements .
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Grim Rider on November 14, 2015, 07:26:10 AM
*Originally Posted by ngling [+]
This thread has gone right off the rails. I could care less if you use a windshield or not, and I suspect that I am not the only one who feels this way. Instead of slinging mud at each other, how about we get back to posting constructive comments.
:047:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crazy doctor on November 14, 2015, 08:46:12 PM
*Originally Posted by Grim Rider [+]
:047:
  :047:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Grim Rider on November 14, 2015, 08:56:14 PM
*Originally Posted by crazy doctor [+]
  :047:

Where's that Like button when you want it?  :164:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: willielee3 on November 15, 2015, 04:00:21 PM
If you scroll through the photos of the 2016, you should see a photo of the new windshield from Honda.

http://powersports.honda.com/2016/cb500x.aspx (http://powersports.honda.com/2016/cb500x.aspx)

Looks nice!!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on November 15, 2015, 04:18:53 PM
New shield does look good and the vents may help  looks like the brackets may be different  not sure what the side bolts are for   unless it can slide up and down  now that would be nice
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: gamerbfk on November 15, 2015, 04:38:21 PM
COMPARISON, 2015-2016 Honda CB500X.

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Grim Rider on November 15, 2015, 05:31:47 PM
Looks far better than the previous Honda tall screen option.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on November 15, 2015, 08:37:06 PM
It will be nice if it uses the same brackets and is a straight forward swap for those of us with the original stock screen, and the price is reasonable!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Irishrover on November 15, 2015, 10:14:50 PM
*Originally Posted by Tas [+]
It will be nice if it uses the same brackets and is a straight forward swap for those of us with the original stock screen, and the price is reasonable!

Looking at the picture and comparing mine, I don't think it will be a straight swap. The fixing bolts are misaligned on the new screen, whereas on the older model the bolts are almost in-line.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on November 15, 2015, 10:18:32 PM
Someone posted pics on one of the forums of the mounting for the 2016 windshield.it is different.They bolt on from the sides,not the front like the pre-16 models.

I was wrong.It's similar to the pre16 but slightly different.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=powersports.honda.com/assets/flash/model/gallery/CB500X_2016_08.jpg)

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=powersports.honda.com/assets/flash/model/gallery/CB500X_2016_04.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Irishrover on November 15, 2015, 10:24:05 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
Someone posted pics on one of the forums of the mounting for the 2016 windshield.it is different.They bolt on from the sides,not the front like the pre-16 models.

Yes you can see them on the link in the previous page.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on November 15, 2015, 10:27:45 PM
*Originally Posted by Irishrover [+]
Yes you can see them on the link in the previous page.

It may be an optical illusion based on the new design and it being wider,but the mounts appear to be wider and flatter than the pre16.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Heavy on November 15, 2015, 11:01:14 PM
Looks like the bolts on the side allow you to adjust the height.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on November 16, 2015, 03:44:05 PM
By looking at the pictures real good  it seems the shield will not work on the older bikes  as was pointed out the bolt pattern is different  and the side bolts are for height adjustment  because  with the pictures blown up you can see the  wellnuts  and slots  for adjustment on the side  not fitting older bikes  is ok with me because in the USA anyway the stock shield 13-15 is three time the cost of an after market shield
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: gamerbfk on November 16, 2015, 09:00:43 PM
NEW HONDA WINDSHIELD LOOKS IMPRESSIVE.

Looking at the recently posted closeups it seems the windshield
    #1. Has two vents
     #2. Is not just a curved shield, but slants dramatically on each side
     #3. Has like extra wide 'flaps' near the bottom.


When I was researching what windshield to get for my 2015 CB500X - All these now included features were boasted of by various manufactures.

Will be great to hear the first reports of riders. Seems like Honda may have added improvements to their new models....again.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on November 17, 2015, 02:45:30 AM
Maybe Honda has been reading this long thread!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Heavy on November 19, 2015, 01:04:06 AM
Ya, and it took them a couple of years to react because they kept falling asleep.    :038:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on November 19, 2015, 03:17:15 AM
*Originally Posted by Tas [+]
It will be nice if it uses the same brackets and is a straight forward swap for those of us with the original stock screen, and the price is reasonable!
FYI the brackets can be bent to change the angle considerably . I put 2" plastic spacers and bent the brackets down to where they almost touch the headlight cowl . Works for me , after trying everything else and a few different windshields. I am 5'9", 29" inseam (height and inseam makes all the difference when considering windshield modifications). See the angle in the first picture ( original position w/ spacers ) and the second one with the brackets bent down towards the cowl. Third pic is the overall angle obtained by spacers and bending the brackets down. Zero head shake , no turbulence , less noise, but a lot more bugs !
Overall $ 8.00 fix.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Grim Rider on November 19, 2015, 06:53:29 AM
*Originally Posted by Heavy [+]
Ya, and it took them a couple of years to react because they kept falling asleep.    :038:

 :008:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Handypete on November 20, 2015, 04:10:46 PM
*Originally Posted by Rocker66 [+]
As I have survived nearly 69 years without a car licence. I really take exception to your comment. Until my accident 2 years I rode all the year round in the lat 15 years commuting 75 miles a day despite the fact that I had free train travel and the train stopped literally outside my office.
I would have thought that this qualifies me as a genuine biker.
Maybe this forum isn't as friendly as I thought

Dude (and the others),

SARCASM!    I was so @$#ing impressed with you riding for so long and having all those bikes I just wanted to say something "clever" to congratulate you!!!  Geeez, didn't anyone see the beer toasting?

Sorry if I offended you, it was certainly not my intention quite the contrary!!!!

So here's another   :821:  and wish you the best,

_pete
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: C-rider on November 22, 2015, 09:24:28 PM
OK, so it may be ugly but it works and I'm not taking it off!  Last winter I whipped up a little windshield attachment in about a half an hour using an old face shield (about 4" out of the middle of it).  I needed something to keep the wind off my neck as it was getting colder.  It did that OK and also reduced wind noise and buffetting.  I told myself that I was going to do something a little more presentable but I didn't get around to it until recently.  So I started with another face shield and attached the clamps.  I was going to cut the ends off in a way that fit with the curve of the Honda windshield but I decided to test ride it first.  The result was that it kept the wind off my neck, reduced wind noise and buffetting even more than the original and also reduced wind to my shoulders, which increased stability because I'm not bashed around as much.  I've had it in some significant winds and it's very secure.  So I'm sticking with it.  It helps that the price is right and I admit that I enjoy trying things out and seeing what works, even if aesthetics may suffer. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on November 23, 2015, 04:12:58 AM
I have the 118bikes Honda (AKA Givi) windshield.On the low setting I have good air block, but suffer a lot of buffeting on the back of my helmet which causes it,and my head,to shake badly.Sometimes bad enough to cause blurred vision.I can slouch and lean forward a little and it helps.Raising it to the upper position only barely makes a difference.Most of it happens around 45mph and gets worse with speed.I am convinced that spacing the windshield will help.My plan is to order the Bruudt windshield mount.It adds spacing and more adjustability.I also think that Madstad is onto something with their little air deflectors on top of the middle cowl next to the tank.I think those will help as well.

Bruudt mount.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/mSNMwQ5lHFU (https://www.youtube.com/embed/mSNMwQ5lHFU)


Madstad middle cowl wind deflectors.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.madstad.com/core/media/media.nl?id=2702&c=851642&h=a493911def3645976f85)
 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Grim Rider on November 23, 2015, 01:06:13 PM
Having a gap in the screen (like C-Rider's above and as comes with certain screens such as the MRA Vario) does seem to me to make a big difference in terms of the wind pressure and noise experienced behind the screen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ghartm on November 23, 2015, 04:47:26 PM
I've installed the Madstad windscreen pictured above only the 20 inch version. It has made a world of difference in riding comfort. You can still get some buffeting depending on the the environment your riding in, for example on the interstate around large trucks and lots of traffic at high speed you can feel the turbulent air. However I generally can ride with my face shield open with only a little wind noise. I have a Shoei Neotech modular and can ride with the chin bar up without turbulence or noise.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: C-rider on November 25, 2015, 07:25:32 PM
*Originally Posted by Grim Rider [+]
Having a gap in the screen (like C-Rider's above and as comes with certain screens such as the MRA Vario) does seem to me to make a big difference in terms of the wind pressure and noise experienced behind the screen.
Yes, Grim.  There is a 1/2" gap between the top of the screen and the face shield, which happened purely because of the "clampy things" I used. (Still can't remember where those things came from.  Some gazebo kit or something.  Anyway they never come loose and the whole thing unscrews in 15 sec.)  Anyway, I agree that the gap is important.  I also previously put 3/8" spacers in the Honda tall screen which improved things.  I am really enjoying being "unruffled".
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on December 09, 2015, 09:32:56 PM
I have the bikes118, Givi knock off, windshield.I've done 500 miles with it,and above  50 mph,it feels like I am being buffeted by a semi(lorry).The bike shakes around a lot.This only happens on the high position.Either position,causes my helmet to buffet so bad I can't read road signs as I pass by.During one of my rides,I ran through a dust storm caused my a tractor cutting the right of ways on the road.When I went through it,dust was immediately sucked up around the bars between me and the windshield,directly in my face shield.I think Madstad is onto something with those little wing things that mount a top the middle cowl.I also think that spacing the windshield out, and laying back the windshield will help,as reported by members here.I'll get on this after Xmas.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:farm1.staticflickr.com/691/23011615443_65284afc26_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on December 10, 2015, 12:12:19 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I have the bikes118, Givi knock off, windshield.I've done 500 miles with it,and above  50 mph,it feels like I am being buffeted by a semi(lorry)

I thought I'd escaped buffeting threads when I left the V-Strom forums. Now that is a bike that is designed to rip your head off. Almost cured by Madstad + MRA and hours of adjusting the settings.

Now here is the buffeting again.

Wind is very fickle. I have the standard screen ( low one I guess ) and I feel wind pressure but little or no buffeting. I must be just the right size for it at 5'9".
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on December 10, 2015, 12:16:57 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
I must be just the right size for it at 5'9".

Same height here and I agree, I find the stock screen pretty good, no complaints at all. Its my first faired bike so nothing to compare it to but I'm pretty happy with it.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on December 10, 2015, 04:24:04 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
I thought I'd escaped buffeting threads when I left the V-Strom forums. Now that is a bike that is designed to rip your head off. Almost cured by Madstad + MRA and hours of adjusting the settings.

Now here is the buffeting again.

Wind is very fickle. I have the standard screen ( low one I guess ) and I feel wind pressure but little or no buffeting. I must be just the right size for it at 5'9".
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I has 2 DL's and I feel your pain  in the end what I did was re drill the stock shield and lower it worked great after that  clean air
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on December 10, 2015, 09:45:30 PM
I have the OE low windshield.It pushes air up under my helmet and causes it to shake uncontrolably.Doesn't matter the setting.I'm starting to hate this bike with a passion.I went back to the dealer I bought mine from today,and looked at other bikes.They have no plans to carry the CB-X or NC700.Mine set there for nearly two years before I came along and bought it.It took them nearly three years to sell the NC700.Their main sellers are sport bikes.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Lazy Rider on December 10, 2015, 10:57:25 PM
I'm wondering if it is possible that the buffeting that some people experience is caused by the design of the helmet. I've used the original screen in high and low positions and I now have the MRA Vario touring screen. I've never experienced any buffeting with either screen. I'm 6' (182 cm) and use an Arai Defiant helmet.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on December 11, 2015, 01:23:10 AM
*Originally Posted by Lazy Rider [+]
I'm wondering if it is possible that the buffeting that some people experience is caused by the design of the helmet. I've used the original screen in high and low positions and I now have the MRA Vario touring screen. I've never experienced any buffeting with either screen. I'm 6' (182 cm) and use an Arai Defiant helmet.

I think it is more of a case of people's perception of what is tolerable and what isn't. There are probably hundreds of posts on this topic in various forums and you will rarely get a consensus of whether a screen is good or not. I use a Madstad screen which I find very good, but others have a totally different opinion.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on December 11, 2015, 01:55:45 AM
*Originally Posted by Lazy Rider [+]
I'm wondering if it is possible that the buffeting that some people experience is caused by the design of the helmet. I've used the original screen in high and low positions and I now have the MRA Vario touring screen. I've never experienced any buffeting with either screen. I'm 6' (182 cm) and use an Arai Defiant helmet.

I have three and it's the same with all of them.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: C-rider on December 11, 2015, 02:20:42 AM
Helmet design will affect noise but can do little about buffeting.
I think Grim Rider is right about the gap at the top of the windshield being the key.  Since I posted a couple of weeks ago about my faceshield add-on, I've been enjoying the ride more and more.  I'm in calm and fairly quiet air, except for stiff side-winds.  It's never been so good on any bike I've owned.  I'm even getting used to the look of the thing. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: RobG on December 11, 2015, 02:36:06 AM
*Originally Posted by ngling [+]
I think it is more of a case of people's perception of what is tolerable and what isn't. There are probably hundreds of posts on this topic in various forums and you will rarely get a consensus of whether a screen is good or not. I use a Madstad screen which I find very good, but others have a totally different opinion

I agree...I'm using the OEM screen set on the high position and depending on the wind speed and direction the buffeting isn't that bad at all for me. I'm short at 5' 6"... :027:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on December 11, 2015, 04:42:03 AM
I'm going to throw this out there  after 4 different adventure style bikes and now the 500X I know why so many different shields don't work  not only is it the angle of the shield but much more importance the distance of the shield to the rider   the Madstad system works because not only does it change the angle but by doing so puts the shield closer to the rider  I have proved this on my 500X by mounting a National Cycle shield to the Handlebars almost straight up but a good 4-6 inches closer  the top of the shield is in the middle of my nose  no wind- no noise- no buffeting- no air coming up and clear view of speedometer  my phone doesn't do pictures so don't ask  some might not like the way it looks  most don't even notice it  does take a little fab work making new rods out of 5/16 cold roll and I made it a four point mount and I'll repeat this- it does work-
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on December 11, 2015, 11:44:47 AM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
.I'm starting to hate this bike with a passion.

I know that feeling, not with the X but the Strom. The buffeting was bad enough to blur my vision at times but I more or less solved that, what I could not solve was my fear of it's top heavy weight. Just my size and strength, if I got on uneven ground and one foot went down a long way it was on it's way over, it never did but it was too close for comfort. It was a truly great tourer, arm chair comfort, excellent handling, 50 UK mpg.

So I got rid of it after 18 months. Got the X and it suits me perfectly.

My advice is you do the same, biking is about enjoyment not hating your bike.

Over here in Europe sports bike sales have plummeted. Yamaha's best seller in UK is the Tracer. The CB500 in all guises is one of Honda's best sellers. You'll notice the "scrambler" craze this year. The monster saved Ducati's bacon.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on December 11, 2015, 12:03:47 PM
For sure, hope you can either figure out the issue(s) with the X or get another bike that suits you better. I've been watching all the new bikes being launched over the past few weeks and I've been drooling quite a bit. I'll be on the X for a few years yet but I can see myself moving on to something else in a few years. Keep us updated as to what you do.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on December 11, 2015, 12:24:30 PM
I hope I can get this figured out.I have ideas.My main reason for the larger screen is so I can ride deeper into the winter.We have mild winters but we still have freezing weather,which I won't ride in,unless I know the roads are completely clear.I'm trying to get everything sorted before next spring.I have a scenic tour planned to east Texas to visit a friend.I guess I'm a bit frustrated.I've had some other niggly issues with the CB-X.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on December 11, 2015, 03:24:56 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I hope I can get this figured out.

It can be seriously frustrating. First, how tall are you ?

I've ridden miles waving my hands around like a nutter feeling for the wind, on the Strom. Up a bit, up a bit, up a bit. New angle, down a bit, down a bit, down a bit. Got to be very methodical. This was with madstat bracket and MRA screen. The bracket is great. The MRA screen came with the adjustable top flip up, so another 4 angles to add to the equation.

Just been out on mine, every time I get on it it gets better, I just love this bike. Sunny winter's day, well above freezing and nearly dry roads, grips on heat 2 and heaven.

Good luck with the fix.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: C-rider on December 11, 2015, 06:06:05 PM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
I'm going to throw this out there  after 4 different adventure style bikes and now the 500X I know why so many different shields don't work  not only is it the angle of the shield but much more importance the distance of the shield to the rider   the Madstad system works because not only does it change the angle but by doing so puts the shield closer to the rider  I have proved this on my 500X by mounting a National Cycle shield to the Handlebars almost straight up but a good 4-6 inches closer  the top of the shield is in the middle of my nose  no wind- no noise- no buffeting- no air coming up and clear view of speedometer  my phone doesn't do pictures so don't ask  some might not like the way it looks  most don't even notice it  does take a little fab work making new rods out of 5/16 cold roll and I made it a four point mount and I'll repeat this- it does work-
I agree.  Distance from the helmet is also a key factor in getting smooth wind.  I toyed with some kind of handlebar mounted screen on my X but didn't follow through.  I rode a KLR "C" model (you US guys never got that one) which did not have the framemount fairing.  I fitted a Spitfire shield to it and went through a long period of evolution including add-ons.  But it worked best when it was closest to my face. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Matt F. on December 11, 2015, 06:18:47 PM
I think this is quite possibly the worst idea posted here, but has anyone tried a sort of double spoiler? 

Kinda of starting with an MRA Vario (something that solved all my problems right out of the box) and then adding another aftermarket spoiler to that? 

It would follow the Gillette razor ethic....just keep on adding blades.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on December 11, 2015, 11:52:31 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
I've ridden miles waving my hands around like a nutter feeling for the wind, on the Strom. Up a bit, up a bit, up a bit. New angle, down a bit, down a bit, down a bit. Got to be very methodical. This was with madstat bracket and MRA screen. The bracket is great. The MRA screen came with the adjustable top flip up, so another 4 angles to add to the equation.

Pretty much how I set up my Madstad screen. Takes a while as you can adjust both height and angle. I ended up at its highest setting and smallest angle. With an 18" screen and my height being about 173 cm (5' 7"), wind hits me just below the top of my visor. This suits me as you get enough breeze to keep you cool. If I rode more in cold weather, I would probably want a 20" screen. Wind deflectors on top of the fairings probably help as well.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on December 11, 2015, 11:52:56 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
It can be seriously frustrating. First, how tall are you ?

I've ridden miles waving my hands around like a nutter feeling for the wind, on the Strom. Up a bit, up a bit, up a bit. New angle, down a bit, down a bit, down a bit. Got to be very methodical. This was with madstat bracket and MRA screen. The bracket is great. The MRA screen came with the adjustable top flip up, so another 4 angles to add to the equation.

Just been out on mine, every time I get on it it gets better, I just love this bike. Sunny winter's day, well above freezing and nearly dry roads, grips on heat 2 and heaven.

Good luck with the fix.

I am 5'8" with a 28 inch inseam.I am long in the body and set high on the bike.My screen barely comes up to my chin on the high setting.Even slouching down,it comes up to the bridge of my nose,and it still gives me grief.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on December 12, 2015, 11:58:54 AM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I am 5'8" with a 28 inch inseam.

Not that far off me. The stock screen on high setting is quite low down for me so I get wind blast but clean wind blast.

Have you tried a madstat or similar bracket ? One last throw of the dice. And/or one of the adjustable flip tops.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: C-rider on December 12, 2015, 06:30:04 PM
A big problem with a straight windshield is that you get an airflow that comes over the top nice and smooth and blasts you right in the head, chin or under the helmet, creating a deafening roar.  That air has to be broken up.  You notice some manufacturers have slight curve towards the front of the bike at the top of the screen.  That changes the flow of some of the air and creates some mild turbulence which is easier to take than a  concentrated blast.  SAEng is one company which makes a strip to put around the edge of the screen to induce turbulence.  I never tried it and I don't know anyone that has but it was intriguing to me.  I tried to apply the principle to my aforementioned KLR with a 3/4" strip sticking out from the top of the Spitfire at 90 degrees.  It made a significant difference but once again, it may be offensive to some people's asthetic tastes.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on December 13, 2015, 03:39:54 AM
I bought a 3' piece of SAEing edging about 20 years ago to try on a stock BMW windshield and it worked great  they say it's like adding 2" to the shield and it did on that bike  since than I have tried it on a good number of bikes didn't work at all  did try a piece across the top on the stock 500X shield didn't do a thing
 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on December 13, 2015, 08:04:03 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
Not that far off me. The stock screen on high setting is quite low down for me so I get wind blast but clean wind blast.

Have you tried a madstat or similar bracket ? One last throw of the dice. And/or one of the adjustable flip tops.

Not yet.With Xmas coming up,I haven't messed with it.Family obligations and all that stuff.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Wouken on December 13, 2015, 08:34:00 PM
First thing first, windscreens are verry personal. Looks and feel.
I had driven a 300km with the small screen(speeds up to 125-130km/h). And was good. Bud when i got my givi big screen (-51%, scratch in screen, not yet found) i installed it.
Effect a little bit mor comfort at high speeds bud some buffeting sounds.
After adding a o-ring (forum sugestion) at the bottom screws the buffeting was reduced big time. Bud for me its more for the comfort and the rain protection at speed faster then 90km. It all depends on what you want i'm happy with the big screen.
My opinion is that you have to look for what you want, no screen, small screen, big screen or a extra deflector. Its up to you.
The forum can only give info and tips
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: thaicbx on December 14, 2015, 03:53:36 AM
I guess i got lucky in the "windscreen" stakes.

Original screen set on high was great up to 140 K's visor down.

Had to change the screen after fitting after market generic hand guards.

I got a larger "Givi" screen that had to be set in the lower position.

First ride out was horrendous. Buffeting all over the place.

Spaced out the bottom 2 well nuts by about 20mm and tested that set up.

Chalk and cheese. 140 K's back to no buffeting. Amazing what a small "tweak" can do.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on December 15, 2015, 02:35:14 AM
After tryin all kinds of windshields , positions and also no windshield I found that no windshield was the quietest and zero turbulence. But I didn't like the looks much. So I bought a used windshield off the forum and chopped 3" off the top, bent the mounting down a bit to change the angle and mounted it in the lower position. No more noise, no buffeting (have been up to 90-95 mph) and reasonable bug protection.
Check out the pics....
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on December 15, 2015, 02:39:28 AM
 :306: as far as I'm concerned my windshield issues are over
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on December 15, 2015, 05:00:53 AM
I'm glad that it worked out.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on December 15, 2015, 12:12:05 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
No more noise, no buffeting (have been up to 90-95 mph) and reasonable bug protection.

And what is more it actually looks right.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Matt F. on December 15, 2015, 06:50:58 PM
500X -- I'm very happy for you -- now you can really enjoy the bike vs always having the dreaded highway in the back of your mind.  It is amazing how different the answer to the same question is to all of us -- there's likely some wisdom in there somewhere. 

It does look really good to boot -- nice work.


Matt
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on December 16, 2015, 04:27:13 AM
You know I tried that  didn't work for me  glad it worked for you
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: C-rider on December 16, 2015, 04:50:07 AM
Looks good 500-X.   However, those of us in colder climes are doomed to continue the search for the Holy Grail (wind protection with low wind noise and without buffeting) if we are to maximize our riding season.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on December 25, 2015, 05:45:47 AM
 :306: Went on a 250 mile ride , some 70 mph ( which was unbearable previously due to buffeting ) Cut my ear plugs half length so I could hear my Leo Vince GP corsa ( Love the pipe ) was quite comfortable and not fatigued . Now to do something about that seat.
The windshield chop job,and the bent down mounts are a complete success for me, and was quite easy to cut with a cheap cutting wheel on a variable speed drill. Just make sure to tape the windshield first. I'm 5'9" with a 29" inseam. Worked for me. As some of you know I was about to give up on the bike, but thanks to your encouragement I did not. Now with the cut down windshield, rear sprocket change and the new pipe, which gives it a lot of personality, It finally feels right. Now to add some additional lighting and a few more little doo-dads .Think I'll be holding onto it for a while, well until there are some left over 2016's out there.
Thank you all  :821:

PS or maybe one of these
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on December 25, 2015, 10:31:46 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
PS or maybe one of these

That's a fearsome looking beast. But all the disadvantages of a car plus all the disadvantages of a bike and the advantages of neither.

So get wet and get stuck in traffic.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on December 25, 2015, 03:20:27 PM
 :745:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on December 26, 2015, 07:49:54 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
You know I tried that  didn't work for me  glad it worked for you
I think bending the mounting brackets down is the thing that made the difference, changed the angle. Try it and see.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on December 26, 2015, 08:21:38 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
...

PS or maybe one of these

I would like to test ride one of those!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: C-rider on December 26, 2015, 03:33:13 PM
Uh, oh!  Honda's got a leaner 3-wheeler.  Watch out Bombardier.  Say what you will about getting wet and getting stuck in traffic, there are a lot of people out there who are attracted to the motorcycle experience but who a) can't hold the weight of one or b)have a fear that 2 wheels are unstable or generally unsafe.  Never mind that it's harder to avoid dead skunks with 3 tracks.  A leaner gets a three wheeler closer to the true motorcycle experience.  My impression is that Bombardier didn't want to go there or more likely, didn't have the resources.  I see more and more BRP Spyders, trikes, Gold Wings with "training wheels", you name it. (The lady who runs the day care at my church has a Spyder, fer cryin' out loud!) It's a big market and those conversions can nearly double the cost so the owners are willing to spend big money.  This will be interesting to watch.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on January 02, 2016, 03:20:45 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
:306: Went on a 250 mile ride , some 70 mph ( which was unbearable previously due to buffeting ) Cut my ear plugs half length so I could hear my Leo Vince GP corsa ( Love the pipe ) was quite comfortable and not fatigued . Now to do something about that seat.
The windshield chop job,and the bent down mounts are a complete success for me, and was quite easy to cut with a cheap cutting wheel on a variable speed drill. Just make sure to tape the windshield first. I'm 5'9" with a 29" inseam. Worked for me. As some of you know I was about to give up on the bike, but thanks to your encouragement I did not. Now with the cut down windshield, rear sprocket change and the new pipe, which gives it a lot of personality, It finally feels right. Now to add some additional lighting and a few more little doo-dads .Think I'll be holding onto it for a while, well until there are some left over 2016's out there.

Thank you all  :821:

OK so here's the chopped windshield after Plastikote on the inside in black . Kinda cool I think. :123:


(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/ws-1.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/ws-2.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/ws-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on January 02, 2016, 10:07:01 AM
That looks great, nice work.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on January 02, 2016, 12:37:43 PM
Thank you
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on January 02, 2016, 03:57:30 PM
 :062:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on January 03, 2016, 12:29:48 AM
On the bike .....

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/1871c2fa9833afec0.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/297603787492ed8b6.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on January 03, 2016, 12:31:57 AM
On the bike ....

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/36d20dfbdf5127a8f.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/4-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on January 03, 2016, 12:33:16 AM
On the bike... kinda liking the glare reduction during the day and also at night from the headlight.

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/52d821a7619a3f238.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/78a3e773cb6bf8912.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on January 03, 2016, 12:40:13 AM
On the bike ..........


(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/8.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/9-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on January 03, 2016, 12:55:31 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
On the bike... kinda liking the glare reduction during the day and also at night from the headlight.

That's the first thing that came to mind when I saw your first pictures earlier today, could really help. Have to say, it really looks sharp, especially on the white bike. I have some Plastidip left over, may have to give it a try on mine. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on January 03, 2016, 01:20:27 AM
Since I have learned so much from this forum thanks to you all .... the least I can do is contribute.

Sidenote : The more I ride the bike with this windshield configuration, the more I think the windshield angle (by bending the brackets back-no spacers) has made most of the difference. There is enough movement available in the brackets that after bending them back they can be actually be bent closer together creating more of a rounded shape to the windshield creating more of an updraft under the windshield since the center is further away from the instrument binnacle then the sides. The windshield itself is pretty malleable and not as stiff as it initially seems, just make sure it's warm and don't attempt it when it's cold and don't over do it !
 Again.. thanks for the appreciation. :002:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on January 03, 2016, 04:29:37 AM
Before you bent them back  did you remove the shield and ride it to see where the wind hits you and now where it hits you
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on January 03, 2016, 10:54:54 AM
Yes I did. At this angle and lenght it's about the same as no windshield. It hits me about the chin area. If I make the wind shield more vertical the air becomes rougher. The air is cleaner at the lower height setting. Lots of bugs on the face shield. Smooth clean air , no change as speed increases, no buffeting. Do not try and bend the brackets with the windshield on them. 5'9" w/ 29" inseam.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on January 13, 2016, 01:48:11 AM
OK after 71 pages I haven't seen if anyone has tried a MRA Sport Spoiler on a stock windscreen. Maybe I missed it. :211:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on January 13, 2016, 04:41:08 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
Yes I did. At this angle and lenght it's about the same as no windshield. It hits me about the chin area. If I make the wind shield more vertical the air becomes rougher. The air is cleaner at the lower height setting. Lots of bugs on the face shield. Smooth clean air , no change as speed increases, no buffeting. Do not try and bend the brackets with the windshield on them. 5'9" w/ 29" inseam.
I sawed mine off 6 months ago and mounted a shield on the handle bars  works great 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jgunsett on January 13, 2016, 04:44:21 AM
I tried a Puig spoiler (very similar to the MRA) on my stock shield in the high position, and it reduced the windnoise and buffeting substantially.  Then I replaced the stock shield with a Cal-Sci and now I'm riding in relative silence.  BTW, I'm 6'1". 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on January 13, 2016, 05:21:25 AM
*Originally Posted by jgunsett [+]
I tried a Puig spoiler (very similar to the MRA) on my stock shield in the high position, and it reduced the windnoise and buffeting substantially.  Then I replaced the stock shield with a Cal-Sci and now I'm riding in relative silence.  BTW, I'm 6'1".
Did you get the Cal-Sci Medium or Honda stock and are you using it without the Puig Spoiler? I just got a Givi D1121ST from a friend and it's OK but I'd like something a little better.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jgunsett on January 14, 2016, 03:06:08 AM
It's the Cal Sci Medium and I'm using it without the Puig Spoiler.  I'm thinking about selling my CB500x (it's just not working for me ergonomically) so I'll probably be selling the Cal Sci shield.  Let me know if you're interested.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: selftaught on January 14, 2016, 04:30:12 AM
PM sent
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on January 14, 2016, 05:08:42 AM
*Originally Posted by jgunsett [+]
It's the Cal Sci Medium and I'm using it without the Puig Spoiler.  I'm thinking about selling my CB500x (it's just not working for me ergonomically) so I'll probably be selling the Cal Sci shield.  Let me know if you're interested.
I sent you a PM that said I was interested, did you get it?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on January 14, 2016, 06:38:47 AM
The 2016 model's screen is allegedly 100mm taller than our current models screen and seems like a steeper angle. Be interesting to know if it can fit on our models!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on January 14, 2016, 07:47:30 AM
Judging from the photos that I have seen, I don't think that the 2016 screen will fit on older models as the attachment points look different.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: boatross on January 21, 2016, 09:45:07 PM
Hey Everyone,

I was at the bike show a couple of weeks ago and snapped a few windscreen shots. Forgot to take some more of the bike, apologies for that. I didn't get a chance to roughly compare the photos to my '14 for the mounts. Not sure if these photos help us determine if the mounts are correct.

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on January 21, 2016, 11:15:13 PM
Brackets look a different shape. I don't think the earlier models have that L shaped bracket so more than likely, the holes in the screen will be in the wrong spot. Of course, you could always drill new holes.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on January 22, 2016, 01:00:27 AM
*Originally Posted by ngling [+]
Brackets look a different shape. I don't think the earlier models have that L shaped bracket so more than likely, the holes in the screen will be in the wrong spot. Of course, you could always drill new holes.
Should be quite easy to make  some thin adapter plates. As I have posted before the factory brackets can be moved/bent a substantial amount. I think we can fit one. But I'm not paying $300 for one  :182:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on January 22, 2016, 10:38:07 AM
Yep, brackets look quite different and Im sure it will be high $$ at Honda part pricing. Interesting the slots in the new screen. Anyone brave enough to add slots to their stock older screen?  :082:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on January 23, 2016, 12:03:30 AM
I cut a stock screen 3-4" in height works for me
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on January 31, 2016, 07:51:24 AM
It seems the 2016 screen is more upright and the screen on the new Africa Twin is very upright. Just wondering if anyone has tried making the stock screen more upright? I made mine less upright based on feedback here and have less noise and no buffeting but am curious if I moved the spacers around so its more vertical what the effect will be?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on January 31, 2016, 08:26:31 AM
Can't speak for the stock screen, but the best position for my Madstad screen is near the vertical position so it may work.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on February 03, 2016, 11:02:06 PM
Windhsield height, angle and air gaps can either decrease or increase buffeting in the upper chest and top of helmet area.  True rocket science stuff.
I agree stock OEM CB 500 X shield is going to get you lots of air at speed. Honda in USA makes taller shield but you're looking at $200.

My buddy sent me a link to Honda Taiwan and I purchased their shield which is shaped dramatically different than USA HONDA shield. When I get it I'll do a detailed report on the shield.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on February 03, 2016, 11:05:19 PM
*Originally Posted by wardie [+]
Windhsield height, angle and air gaps can either decrease or increase buffeting in the upper chest and top of helmet area.  True rocket science stuff.
I agree stock OEM CB 500 X shield is going to get you lots of air at speed. Honda in USA makes taller shield but you're looking at $200.

My buddy sent me a link to Honda Taiwan and I purchased their shield which is shaped dramatically different than USA HONDA shield. When I get it I'll do a detailed report on the shield.


If you're talking about the 118bikes windshield from Thailand,it's a Givi with a Honda sticker on it.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:farm1.staticflickr.com/691/23011615443_65284afc26_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on February 04, 2016, 12:48:22 AM
Can u share your thoughts on installation and it's effectiveness? Did you play around with it shimming out the bottom?? Inquiring minds want to know :)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on February 04, 2016, 01:30:24 AM
Bought one, played with it for a week, got rid of it, worse then stock for me.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on February 04, 2016, 01:39:52 AM
*Originally Posted by wardie [+]
Can u share your thoughts on installation and it's effectiveness? Did you play around with it shimming out the bottom?? Inquiring minds want to know :)
The  best way to get a screen to work for you on a CB500X is to read all 74 pages of this post and try and find one that worked for someone your exact height and inseam. Those two measurements are critical. Also almost any screen works fine up to 60 mph , after that it all goes to hell. So what ever you get ride it at least 65-70 plus mph.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on February 04, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
*Originally Posted by wardie [+]
Can u share your thoughts on installation and it's effectiveness? Did you play around with it shimming out the bottom?? Inquiring minds want to know :)

I haven't but as CB-500-X says,it worse than the stock small screen.I am planning to give the Bruudt brackets a try and then an screen spoiler a try before I ditch it and go with Madstad.

Bruudt bracket
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251425995091?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/251425995091?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Spoiler
http://www.ebay.com/itm/231498424962?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com/itm/231498424962?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on February 19, 2016, 05:38:29 AM
I just installed  the 16 screen to my 14 bike. It installs onto the existing brackets with existing bolts and wellnuts fine. Not a perfect alignment but enough flex in the wellnuts for it to install in < 3 minutes, or same time to install stock screen.

Im 6' 3" and inside leg 32" so tall and solidly built (former 2nd rower in rugby!). My helmet is a Shark Vision -R and with 3 vents its noisy and I would love a new lid sometime. Till today Ive been riding with stock screen on low and angled a bit towards me.

First 2 pics are comparing new to old stock. Its a bit wider and a fair bit taller and has the 2 vent slits down low. Test riding today was in a blustery 25mph wind so not ideal. Test were on my local highway up to 60mph. Didnt have time to go on the faster road.

On the first test I had the screen on high and had some buffeting and helmet noise. Then next test I tried with my cheap eBay $50 spoiler with screen still on high. Still some buffeting and helmet noise and also handling in cross wind wasnt as good. Also it started getting noticeable in my vision. But most the wind not hitting me till top of lid.

Last and best test was screen on low setting and no spoiler. Now helmet noise and buffeting is almost gone so almost as quiet as stock screen. But wind is hitting me higher up so that's a good result.  So will stay on this low setting for a while.  May try spoiler on low setting when it gets colder here.

Clearance on the screen is fine on both high and low setting including when handlebars are at full lock. At least 1.5" clearance. Clearance with headlamp fairing was only 2mm on high and maybe 5mm on low, still OK. Spacers could be added with longer bolts to increase that.

I like the styling of the 16 screen with the vent holes. One other thing I may try is adjusting the rake angle. Its raked back way more than the Africa Twin screen and I think more than a 16 model X. There is also a dedicated thread here on the 16 screen with more pics by others there.




Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Muttley on February 20, 2016, 02:27:40 PM
Got the Bruudt bracket a couple of weeks ago and fitted it with my MRA Vario screen. First ride with the combo on the highest setting resulted in some serious buffeting. Lowered the screen to around half way down the bracket which solved the buffeting, but I'm not convinced it's any improvement on the Vario alone. The Bruudt does give a much bigger gap between the screen and the fairing, but there doesn't appear to be much draft coming through that gap which is strange.
the bracket doesn't fit as snugly as I would have liked. I guess I could bend the bike brackets slightly to make the fit smoother, but I don't want to do that until I am satisfied that the Bruudt is an advantage.
I need to do some longer rides in different wind conditions.
M
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Papa Weeley on February 24, 2016, 11:57:58 PM
I, too, just got a 2016 factory screen (for my '15).
I'm 6', with about a 33"-34" inseam, and I usually use a Shoei Qwest helmet.
I installed it at the higher mount, and shimmed the bottom mounts with the same washers I'd used on the stock screen.
I now have a much larger pocket of calm air in the cockpit. At 40-60mph (what I'm usually traveling), the difference is very pronounced. Above that I feel a slight bit of buffeting, which feels like it's around the sides of my helmet, and the wind seems to be hitting me a bit out at each shoulder. I think the two vents they've added about halfway up have really helped the airflow.
I'm going to play around with the height through the mounts, and see what changes that makes, just for info sake.
But for now, that was an amazingly well-spent $46 (HondaPartsHouse).  :152:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on February 25, 2016, 02:10:13 AM
A few night shots on my 2104. Easy install just bend the brackets to fit
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Papa Weeley on February 25, 2016, 05:19:38 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
A few night shots on my 2104. Easy install just bend the brackets to fit

Wow, you've got a 2104 model? Is it a hover-bike???
 :001: (Sorry, couldn't resist...)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on February 25, 2016, 10:04:52 PM
*Originally Posted by Papa Weeley [+]
Wow, you've got a 2104 model? Is it a hover-bike???
 :001: (Sorry, couldn't resist...)
:002: "hover-bike" ? I don't get it, maybe cause I'm just tired, long day.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on February 25, 2016, 11:22:12 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
:002: "hover-bike" ? I don't get it, maybe cause I'm just tired, long day.

He's poking fun at the fact that you wrote 2104 instead of 2014, so must be a bike from the future  :001:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on February 26, 2016, 02:04:53 AM
 :087: sometimes the obvious escapes us .... Would love a hover bike. Hey we could fish off it !
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on February 26, 2016, 02:18:31 AM
BTW rode 30-40 miles today in windy conditions at speeds up to 75 mph. The bike feels a lot more planted on the freeway to me. Seems like the crosswinds are not moving the front of the bike as much. No buffeting to speak off. Minor wind related vibration at speed but pretty sure I can tune it out with a little more bending of the brackets/changing the angle. Overall better then my chopped down windshield. Best $46.00 investment yet. :306:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Papa Weeley on February 26, 2016, 05:25:26 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
:087: sometimes the obvious escapes us .... Would love a hover bike. Hey we could fish off it !

Sorry, CB - just can't resist an opportunity to be a smart-a...leck.  :001:

Sounds like our experiences with the new screen are very similar. I still can't believe I got that much of an improvement in air protection for that little money - especially when you start looking at the prices of some aftermarket pieces out there that don't sound like they do nearly as good a job.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on February 26, 2016, 05:28:09 PM
*Originally Posted by Papa Weeley [+]
especially when you start looking at the prices of some aftermarket pieces out there that don't sound like they do nearly as good a job.

Its also much better looking compared to most of the aftermarket screens I've seen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on March 02, 2016, 04:43:54 AM
I originally ordered a screen from 118 bikes and after waiting three weeks it never came. Had to get my CC company to put charge in dispute then file with ebay what a mess. Seller claims he sent it and to this day it still hasn't arrived. I read this post and ordered the Honda windshield. For 46 bucks it's worth a try. I do some distance stuff and my Arai shield takes a beating maybe this will keep bugs and debris off.

One of the posters said on his recent installation that he had to "bend the brackets"? Can someone share a little more info on this?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on March 02, 2016, 05:23:12 AM
The width apart for the holes in the 16 screen are slightly different from the 14 brackets so I found enough flex in the well nuts to fit without bending but the 14 bracket metal is so malleable that they can be bent the few mm to make a better fit. Takes longer here to write about than doing it.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on March 03, 2016, 01:40:42 AM
*Originally Posted by wardie [+]
One of the posters said on his recent installation that he had to "bend the brackets"? Can someone share a little more info on this?
That was me  :124: . I too ordered the 118 screen-much worse than the stock one at speed, got rid of it in just a few days. I contemplated no windshield at all and tried to bend the brackets down to lay flat. I decided it looked silly, but ended up finding out how much they will bend and can be moved around a lot. So I bent them and changed the angle and distance in between the brackets to fit the 2016 screen perfectly. Just take your time and work the metal, it is not brittle and bends well. Set them up so the screen fits flat and lined up with the holes in the new windshield. That way there is no stress on the windshield and less vibration , no stretching of the rubber well nuts. No need for extra spacers. Works like it was made for it. I have a 2014 with the 2016 screen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on March 03, 2016, 04:28:14 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
That was me  :124: . I too ordered the 118 screen-much worse than the stock one at speed, got rid of it in just a few days. I contemplated no windshield at all and tried to bend the brackets down to lay flat. I decided it looked silly, but ended up finding out how much they will bend and can be moved around a lot. So I bent them and changed the angle and distance in between the brackets to fit the 2016 screen perfectly. Just take your time and work the metal, it is not brittle and bends well. Set them up so the screen fits flat and lined up with the holes in the new windshield. That way there is no stress on the windshield and less vibration , no stretching of the rubber well nuts. No need for extra spacers. Works like it was made for it. I have a 2014 with the 2016 screen.

I bought your problems,literally.  :745:

I'm determined not to give up until I have exhausted every viable option at stopping the wind buffeting.Luckily,most of my riding is through the curvy mountains and my speeds are relatively low,and the buffeting isn't to awful.  :028:

I think those little side winglets, that Madstad uses on top of the middle cowl, may be the answer to a lot of the buffeting we experience.I rode in the rain and mist with this 118bikes screen.A lot of turbulent water was being sucked up under the bars, and up the front of my jacket and helmet.I'm ordering my Tusk D-Flex hand guards soon,and I am hoping they will help some,before I make my own version of Madstad's mid cowl winglets.Oh,I'm also going to laying the screen back an extra 10 degrees with nylon spacers.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on March 03, 2016, 10:38:42 AM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I bought your problems,literally.  :745:
Spend the $46.36 and live happily ever after.  :160:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on March 03, 2016, 03:11:08 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
Spend the $46.36 and live happily ever after.  :160:

That's my last ditch effort.  :080:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: UKSKP on March 03, 2016, 08:29:45 PM
I want one for my 2013 X but just tried ordering from there and on top of the $46.39 price they want $163.60 for a total of $209.99 which seems steep to send a piece of plastic to Canada...anyone know how I can get this cheaper OR source it in Canada somewhere?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on March 03, 2016, 08:40:26 PM
*Originally Posted by UKSKP [+]
I want one for my 2013 X but just tried ordering from there and on top of the $46.39 price they want $163.60 for a total of $209.99 which seems steep to send a piece of plastic to Canada...anyone know how I can get this cheaper OR source it in Canada somewhere?

Its a Honda part, have you tried contacting a dealer near you to see how much they are? Part number is on the previous page.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: xihadd on March 03, 2016, 09:06:45 PM
*Originally Posted by UKSKP [+]
I want one for my 2013 X but just tried ordering from there and on top of the $46.39 price they want $163.60 for a total of $209.99 which seems steep to send a piece of plastic to Canada...anyone know how I can get this cheaper OR source it in Canada somewhere?

http://www.motorcyclegoodies.com/ (http://www.motorcyclegoodies.com/)

or http://www.internationalmotoparts.com/ (http://www.internationalmotoparts.com/)

got mine from here, shipping to EU from US was 18$
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on March 04, 2016, 02:32:06 AM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
That's my last ditch effort.  :080:
So it's been a week with the 2016 windshield, here are my observations : I find myself no longer planing my routes not to include freeways or 70 mph trips. I am a lot more confident about the way the bike rides at speed. I actually rode the bike everyday this week to work which includes in town traffic and freeway, the windshield issue has just simply stopped being an issue. I am noticing little things I didn't before like I can now ride with my visor cracked open one or two clicks without  my contacts drying out or getting stuff in my eyes. I didn't realize that there was a difference in sound when I open my chin vent or my top vent on my helmet. I mean I can actually hear the difference. No buffeting at all. No noise just the sound of wind rushing by which is not unpleasant. I even put on a cheap pair of ear buds and listened to a morning show at a normal volume still hearing traffic and my pipe. I'm obviously sold and I know you have manipulate the brackets a little but for the money it's a no brainier.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bigred2014 on March 04, 2016, 06:12:26 AM
I wish I saw this post on a 2016 windshield fitting before purchasing a second hand Givi Windscreen. It was only $70 but OEM is still much cheaper. Rosmoe did help out with the spacers. So far so good.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on March 04, 2016, 07:58:14 AM
CB-500-X, what's your height and inseam?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bigred2014 on March 04, 2016, 08:02:45 AM
*Originally Posted by marktbike [+]
CB-500-X, what's your height and inseam?

I am 5'6" with an inseam of 30"
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on March 04, 2016, 08:09:23 AM
All right...I asked about CB-500-X just to put his satisfaction with the '16 windshield in the right perspective. I'm 6'3" and 34" inseam...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bigred2014 on March 04, 2016, 08:12:24 AM
*Originally Posted by marktbike [+]
All right...I asked about CB-500-X just to put his satisfaction with the '16 windshield in the right perspective. I'm 6'3" and 34" inseam...

Lol sorry about that
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on March 04, 2016, 08:15:03 AM
 :745: :152:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on March 04, 2016, 09:53:57 AM
5'9" - 30"
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on March 04, 2016, 09:57:57 AM
Well, that could be enough to mark a difference...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: vamcman on March 04, 2016, 09:24:24 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
Spend the $46.36 and live happily ever after.  :160:

Apparently, the price has incresed to 51.03 plus 12.02 shipping. Is there a discount code for this vendor?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on March 04, 2016, 11:53:57 PM
Nope. Simple supply and demand $'s
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Matt F. on March 05, 2016, 12:33:26 AM
500x -- glad you're getting the bike so dialed in.  Good to hear.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: RobG on March 05, 2016, 01:35:08 AM
*Originally Posted by vamcman [+]
Apparently, the price has incresed to 51.03 plus 12.02 shipping. Is there a discount code for this vendor?

That's strange...I just placed my order and it was 46.39 plus 11.95 shipping and no sales tax for a total of $58.34 :027:

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on March 05, 2016, 01:52:34 AM
*Originally Posted by [b]Matt F[/b]. [+]
500x -- glad you're getting the bike so dialed in.  Good to hear.
You are the first friend I made here Matt. Thanks to the encouragement from you and a few others I held onto the CBX . I remember posting this way back when: " So far no comfortable set up for that kind of travel for me @ 5'9" . It's perfectly fine up to 60 mph or so, but above that it's horrible. The search for a solution continues, hope it does not end in getting rid of the CB500X because I do love my lil bike.  :003:" You said don't give up you'll get it right. and I listened. Thank you ! :169:
PS : the center stand I got from you is still great add on !
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Rooneydog on March 05, 2016, 02:53:19 AM
I just purchased my 2015 CB500XA today and had some noticeable wind noise/buffetting(sp?) at anything over 45 mph. I am 6'4" and wear a Shoei Hornet X2 helmet. Does anyone have a windscreen input for a relative newcomer to this forum? Thanks!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on March 05, 2016, 04:51:00 AM
I am 6'2" and couldn't stand the noise in my Bell Mag-9 helmet at anything over city speed. Bought a tall California Scientific wind screen and the wind was moved from my chest to the top of my helmet, and there is no buffeting.

Bought a Shoei RF-1200 and could finally ride at highway speeds, although there was still wind noise. Bought some Surefire Defender ear plugs on Amazon. That made riding much quieter. I can now wear either helmet at highway speeds.


Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: selftaught on March 05, 2016, 12:31:44 PM
I bought a CalSci screen off a cool user from this forum who knocked off a few bucks.

I love the thing but man, if I'd have known the 2016 would be available for $46 I'd have tried that first.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on March 05, 2016, 01:14:23 PM
The new Honda wind screen might be worth a try. It appears to thicker than the Cal Sci, less expensive, and has the same ports to create a still air zone. If it is not suitable for taller riders, I sure it would be easy to sell.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Island Rick on March 05, 2016, 03:14:53 PM
My 2016 CB500X windshield came in about a week ($49 + $9 S&H Partzilla.com 1-877-473-4595 Honda 67101-MJW-J80).
It fit perfectly on my 2013, and took only minutes to install. The weather was too cold for any extensive testing, but a short ride around town has me believing that it is way better than the stock. I plan to do some additional tweaking by spacing the top
screws about an inch further out to see if that will help, as there is still some wind noise at the helmet. It seems like the
nasty buffeting has been abated considerably with the new model.
And, it looks sexy!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: vamcman on March 05, 2016, 03:36:26 PM
*Originally Posted by RobG [+]
That's strange...I just placed my order and it was 46.39 plus 11.95 shipping and no sales tax for a total of $58.34 :027:

I must have been at the wrong website; just ordered one at the same price. Thanks!  :046:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on March 05, 2016, 06:47:19 PM
*Originally Posted by Island Rick [+]
My 2016 CB500X windshield came in about a week. I plan to do some additional tweaking by spacing the top screws about an inch further out to see if that will help, as there is still some wind noise at the helmet.

You might want to try pushing the top of the screen out in 1/4 inch increments. I think you find the more vertical the screen, the more noise the edges will generate because of wind shear. It may also generate increased buffeting as well. Please keep us informed of your test results.

Honda obviously did some testing with the new screen hence the change in shape and the twin ports in the bottom. If it was advantageous to change the vertical angle of the screen, I sure they would have molded the top screw pockets deeper to push the top of the screen forward.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Island Rick on March 05, 2016, 08:31:29 PM
I have to agree with everything you point out. Thank you. I have no wind tunnel experience.
My other consideration is a small add on upper section with adjustable brackets, as sold by aftermarket
suppliers. Any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on March 06, 2016, 02:08:00 AM
I think when it is warm enough you will be able to get some longer rides in for testing purposes. You may find that the new screen works well as originally mounted, or with slight alterations. If not, then try an add-on.

It also depends on what you are trying to accomplish. My tall Cal-Sci screen moved the wind from my chest to the top of my helmet. That made riding more comfortable and there was no buffeting because of the port in it. But it really did not solve my wind noise problem.

The Shoei helmet was quieter than my open-face Bell helmet, but not as comfortable. It was the Surefire Defender ear plugs that solved the wind noise problem. I can wear either helmet now and not be bothered with wind noise.

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on March 06, 2016, 10:29:42 AM
*Originally Posted by Nortoon [+]
It was the Surefire Defender ear plugs that solved the wind noise problem. I can wear either helmet now and not be bothered with wind noise.

Any trouble putting your helmet on with those in your ears? I saw them before and have been interested but just worried they pop out when sliding the helmet on. You'd recommend these plugs? I use the traditional foam style ones now and they cut the noise down great but are a pain to put in.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on March 06, 2016, 04:33:58 PM
I tried the foam ear plugs and they always popped free. PITB having to stop all the time, remove my helmet and push them back in.

The Surefire Defender ears plugs have two features help them stay put. The plugs themselves have three soft and flexible bell-shaped ribs that help hold them in. The soft circular part that holds the plugs has a tab that fits in the pocket behind the lip on the top of your ear.

While riding with a friend, he showed be a trick he learned will racing that makes earplugs easier to install. Lightly moisten the plugs with you mouth and use a circular motion to install them.

I always have the small plugs they show in the illustration capped. The flat surface of these small plugs can be used to push the ear plugs in snugly.

I removed the lanyard as it would just make my tight Shoei helmet harder to put on.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on March 06, 2016, 06:57:59 PM
*Originally Posted by Nortoon [+]
I tried the foam ear plugs and they always popped free. PITB having to stop all the time, remove my helmet and push them back in.

The Surefire Defender ears plugs have two features help them stay put. The plugs themselves have three soft and flexible bell-shaped ribs that help hold them in. The soft circular part that holds the plugs has a tab that fits in the pocket behind the lip on the top of your ear.

While riding with a friend, he showed be a trick he learned will racing that makes earplugs easier to install. Lightly moisten the plugs with you mouth and use a circular motion to install them.

I always have the small plugs they show in the illustration capped. The flat surface of these small plugs can be used to push the ear plugs in snugly.

I removed the lanyard as it would just make my tight Shoei helmet harder to put on.

I have a pair of those.When I ride,my elevation changes constantly and rapidly,causing them to blow out.I quit using them.I'm thinking about trying some straight rubber ear plugs.Foam plugs don't always conform to my odd shaped ear canal.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on March 06, 2016, 08:54:07 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I have a pair of those. When I ride my elevation changes constantly and rapidly causing them to blow out.

Have you tried uncapping them? It would not provide as much noise reduction, but should allow for pressure changes.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on March 06, 2016, 10:17:21 PM
*Originally Posted by Nortoon [+]
I tried the foam ear plugs and they always popped free. PITB having to stop all the time, remove my helmet and push them back in.

The Surefire Defender ears plugs have two features help them stay put. The plugs themselves have three soft and flexible bell-shaped ribs that help hold them in. The soft circular part that holds the plugs has a tab that fits in the pocket behind the lip on the top of your ear.

While riding with a friend, he showed be a trick he learned will racing that makes earplugs easier to install. Lightly moisten the plugs with you mouth and use a circular motion to install them.

I always have the small plugs they show in the illustration capped. The flat surface of these small plugs can be used to push the ear plugs in snugly.

I removed the lanyard as it would just make my tight Shoei helmet harder to put on.

Thanks for the review Nortoon, appreciate it. I may give them a try since I have the same experience you do with the foam ones. They either pop out or feel like they are going to pop out. I can get them installed perfectly sometimes but not consistently. I've moistened my ear and the plug and that helps (always see Rossi doing it) but still not consistent.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: selftaught on March 06, 2016, 11:14:25 PM
To add some perspective, I've learned it makes sense to think about how you ride when weighing your options in choosing a solution, and fuguring out how to reduce noise is no exception.

I initially went the route of earplugs before more seriously considering a wind screen but only later realized they way I actually ride is more often place to place (going to stores or stopping to see friends along the way).

At that point, taking earplugs in and out is a bothersome extra step for me since it's another thing I can't easily do with gloves on (not that I always leave gloves on all the time, but when you have multiple things you have to do/undo in an order it makes stopping and getting going again that much more complicated).

I finally went with an expensive, large wind screen and while that had its own challenges I love never having to mess with ear plugs.

To each their own
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on March 07, 2016, 02:53:06 AM
I'm very old school. So when I first started wearing all of the gear all of the time, I found it bothersome. That is not the way my friends and I rode when we were young and foolish. But now that I am much older and somewhat wiser, I understand that all the gear is required for reasons of safety and comfort. However I do not wear my ear plugs in the city either. The better I can hear the traffic around me, the safer I feel.

But most of the 22,000 kilometers I have ridden the last two summers are on country back roads normally at speeds from 90 to 110 kph. I bought the tallest wind screen I could find and a very expensive helmet. But at 6'2" tall I still have to deal with wind noise. Wearing ear plugs is the only way I can ride 400 to 500 kilometers a day and enjoy it. If I could find another way, other than my car, I wouldn't wear ear plugs either.

Normally my only stops are for breakfast, lunch, and a mid-afternoon walk around the bike. At my age if I do not take a break every 3 or 4 hours I fatigue and do not ride well, which can be dangerous. All of these stops involve removing my gloves, helmet, ear plugs and leather jacket. But I find it relaxing not bothersome.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on March 07, 2016, 08:26:31 AM
*Originally Posted by Nortoon [+]
All of these stops involve removing my gloves, helmet, ear plugs and leather jacket. But I find it relaxing not bothersome.

It's the same for me...I think some minutes spent relaxing and taking in the sight can only make life better...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on March 07, 2016, 12:56:45 PM
*Originally Posted by Nortoon [+]
Have you tried uncapping them? It would not provide as much noise reduction, but should allow for pressure changes.

Yes.It's too loud.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on March 07, 2016, 04:31:46 PM
*Originally Posted by marktbike [+]
It's the same for me...I think some minutes spent relaxing and taking in the sight can only make life better...

I usually ride alone. But if not, I always warn people that ride with me for the first time that I slow down for lakes, rivers and streams. I am always looking for places to fish, another of my summertime sports. After I get to know them, I provide them with my printed maps and let them ride at their own pace on different legs of the trip. That's more enjoyable for both of us.

If I don't have my fishing gear with me it is a struggle to get myself to stop, except for the previously mentioned breaks. I love riding my X on the back roads of cottage country. However every once in a while I pass a very scenic lake or river, and go back to soak it all in.

I thought about taking my camera with me, but Google Maps' street view lets me enjoy evrything at home on my 23 inch computer monitor. My desk top always has a picture of my current favourite spot. I also use it to digitally ride potential new roads to explore. I do the same thing when cabin fever strikes during the long, dark winter months.

The weather has become milder here, and it looks like the snow will be gone by the end of the month. The long range forecast is for warmer spring weather, so the long winter wait may come to end as early as April.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: boardforever on March 09, 2016, 04:06:45 PM
I just got my 2015 this last weekend but it is already apparent that I want a different windscreen. I'm 5'8" with a 31" inseam, I have heard good things about the madstad windscreens from a friend with a weestrom, how do they compare to the 2016 windscreen? Are they recommended for the CB?

-Simeon
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: FangShui on March 11, 2016, 04:46:37 AM

Kept the stock screen on my 2013 and added an Aerotrim spolier. Adjustable, works great, about $65.00

http://www.aerotrim.co.za/ (http://www.aerotrim.co.za/)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: boardforever on March 13, 2016, 04:59:23 AM
Just ordered a 2016 windscreen, hope it's as awesome as everyone says. :)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on March 13, 2016, 03:02:06 PM
*Originally Posted by boardforever [+]
Just ordered a 2016 windscreen, hope it's as awesome as everyone says. :)
If you read all 82 pages you will find most shields cost a lot and don't work well-now with this shield it's cheap and most like it-I think we may be on to something!!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on March 14, 2016, 12:38:03 AM
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
If you read all 82 pages you will find most shields cost a lot and don't work well-now with this shield it's cheap and most like it-I think we may be on to something!!
+1
Love mine ! And it looks very sharp, almost worth the upgrade just for the looks  :305:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: boardforever on March 14, 2016, 03:20:31 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
+1
Love mine ! And it looks very sharp, almost worth the upgrade just for the looks  :305:

I read back a little ways but I dont remember if you explained the modifications to the stock mounts? I haven't got my new windscreen yet to see the differences.

Are they pretty minor modifications?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on March 14, 2016, 04:13:10 PM
It's there .... Bend the brackets
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: boatross on March 14, 2016, 05:31:39 PM
*Originally Posted by boardforever [+]
I read back a little ways but I dont remember if you explained the modifications to the stock mounts? I haven't got my new windscreen yet to see the differences.

Are they pretty minor modifications?

Bending the brackets to fit the 2016 seems tough. Let us know how it works out. How much was the 2016 stock windscreen? I am going to try the longer allen bolts and fuel line tube with the stock screen. Give me a couple of weeks :)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: boardforever on March 14, 2016, 07:11:58 PM
*Originally Posted by boatross [+]
Bending the brackets to fit the 2016 seems tough. Let us know how it works out. How much was the 2016 stock windscreen? I am going to try the longer allen bolts and fuel line tube with the stock screen. Give me a couple of weeks :)

I think the new windshield was around $60 with shipping. However it is backordered until 5/6/16 right now. :(
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: justinope on March 22, 2016, 03:45:12 AM
*Originally Posted by boardforever [+]
I think the new windshield was around $60 with shipping. However it is backordered until 5/6/16 right now. :(

whoa is that the official backorder date from honda right now or where you bought it? whered you buy it by the way?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: boardforever on March 22, 2016, 04:19:56 AM
*Originally Posted by justinope [+]
whoa is that the official backorder date from honda right now or where you bought it? whered you buy it by the way?
I ordered one from motorcyclegoodies.com and also from my local dealer, both told me backordered until the beginning of May. However the dealer told me that dealers get first dibs on parts before online parts houses. We'll see who gets one first.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: vamcman on March 27, 2016, 04:40:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/irishrover63/videos?&ab_channel=IRISHROVER (http://www.youtube.com/user/irishrover63/videos?&ab_channel=IRISHROVER)

Does anyone know what windscreen Irishrover is using?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: vamcman on March 27, 2016, 11:41:38 PM
*Originally Posted by boatross [+]
Bending the brackets to fit the 2016 seems tough. Let us know how it works out. How much was the 2016 stock windscreen? I am going to try the longer allen bolts and fuel line tube with the stock screen. Give me a couple of weeks :)

Bending the brackets is really easy; I used a large flat blade screwdriver in the slots and made a very slight bend toward the center line on each side.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on March 28, 2016, 02:03:02 AM
Ok I got to test the 2016 CB 500X windshield on my 2014 CB 500 X. It's like vancman said slight twist inwards with blade screw driver is all you need. I wanted to share my observations from a 100 mile ride today.

First I wear an Arai and it was custom fit at the Service Pavilion. I don't always wear ear plugs because the helmet is so quiet. Well, it didn't take but the first time I took her up to 55-60 before the wind blast at my face shield caused more noise than I like on my helmet. I placed my hand at the top of the shield while traveling and it cut that noise down quite a bit. When I got off the bike the center bottom portion of the shield where it comes to a point that is touching the gauge cowling.

So two choices;  shim the bottom to get an air gap and shim the top two screws until I get the top portion of the screen tilting up.

The second idea is to locate the shield into the lower position holes. This will allow the air blast to be on my chest area which to me is better than at my face shield.
I could also when in the lower position shim the shield as described above and see what gives.

I'm excited at this challenge and will report back what worked (if anything). BTW I'm 5' 8" in height for reference.Wardie
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on March 29, 2016, 01:02:19 PM
*Originally Posted by wardie [+]
So two choices;  shim the bottom to get an air gap and shim the top two screws until I get the top portion of the screen tilting up.

I started a new thread for mine as "I hope I've finished now". My screen experience matches yours.

https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,3953.0.html (https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,3953.0.html)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ChaoticDetour on March 30, 2016, 05:19:50 AM
I have been running the Madstad windscreen for awhile now. With it's adjustability on the fly you can find a decent flow of wind at any speed.  I posted a video review a little while ago.

https://youtu.be/nbSqqWqXrYs (https://youtu.be/nbSqqWqXrYs)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Knoxychap82 on April 02, 2016, 05:19:40 AM
Good afternoon chaps!

I have just installed a palmer products bracket with my givi screen, best money I've ever spent!!

I'm 5`11 (182 cm) 32 in inseam, and could not make any screen work for me with many "bright ideas"

This palmer bracket is strikingly similar to the madstad, but at half the price. I couldn't be happier 😊

I'll try pop some photos up for you guys!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Island Rick on April 06, 2016, 12:54:40 AM
Mine was $58 US shipped to my door (on line parts house). I don't understand why some don't fit the original brackets, mine fit perfectly, as you would expect.
I am very pleased with the new windshield. For the finishing touch, I added a small upper spoiler (4.5" X 8") that is adjustable (it is quite vertical, almost forward) by bending the aluminum attaching brackets (homemade) and the results are what was needed for my situation. All the junk is gone most of the time, even with the face shield open, or partially open. I say most of the time because side wind or blustery wind still gets in, naturally.
The other revelation is that wind noise is now mostly coming from my helmet, and is greater with the face shield closed.
This is a low cost solution to many of the CB500X wind issues. Thank you Honda for pursuing this, and for keeping the price reasonable.

Island Rick
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Author on April 06, 2016, 06:26:22 AM
It depends what is stock for you? This is stock on new abs version  :028:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Island Rick on April 06, 2016, 12:34:12 PM
Mine is a 2012 CB500X non ABS. My point was that it seems  all CB500X bikes would have the same (stock) windshield brackets. Why would they be different for a different year or ABS?
It doesn't really matter, however, if you are able to make a small adjustment to fit the 2016 windshield to your machine.
Either way it's worth the time and expense as I see it. I've also wondered about adding some wings to the side (vertical) sections, as well as the top one, for the ultimate in all around wind deflection. The wings being add-ons, with brackets, allow a small space and air flow below and behind and don't look like a large "billboard" windscreen. And they are adjustable or easily removed.
It is great to hear from all who try different methods of wind management.
Thanks.

Rick 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on April 06, 2016, 02:47:24 PM
Read previous 85 pages
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Island Rick on April 06, 2016, 05:21:06 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
Read previous 85 pages
82 of the 84 previous pages were pre 2016 Honda windshield, and mostly not applicable to what I
am relating to.
If you had actually read the postings most recent, you would recognize that, and appreciate what
is being discussed intelligently here.

IR
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on April 06, 2016, 05:46:53 PM
1. no such thing as a 2012 CB500x
2. all pre-2016 are the same
3. 2016 use a completely different headlight and bezel.
4. 2016 windscreens fit fine on pre-2016 models.
5. 2016 windscreens are less then $ 50.00
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Island Rick on April 07, 2016, 12:10:03 AM
Thank you for the information that we all knew was correct ( and, yes mine is actually a 2013 CB500X).
So, you agree with everything that I had posted.
What is the problem with people installing the 2016 windscreen to their pre 2016 bikes, and enjoying the results???
Under $50, if you want to walk or drive 500 miles to pick it up in person. That would save the $11 shipping.
May the wind blow all around you.
IR
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on April 07, 2016, 12:59:51 AM
If you had read any of the previous posts you would have read I was one of the first few that installed a 2016 windshield on my 2014 and have enjoyed the results of no more buffeting. Love the screen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Island Rick on April 07, 2016, 02:14:14 AM
Me too, I love the 2016 screen as well for so many reasons. Mostly I am so pleased that Honda saw fit to pursue a solution for a problem that affected us all, and that they are marketing the new screen at a reasonable price.
Let us all ride on, and now we can focus on the really fine machine the CB500X is.
Lately I parked (in the city) next to a Triumph X something, all decked out with every option available. It was clean as a whistle, my CB500X was all muddy and dirty from some serious adventure.  I just smiled, knowing who was having all the fun...

Cheers to all us lucky ones

IR

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on April 07, 2016, 03:52:29 AM
I found the screen easy to install with a slight tweek bending the brackets ever so slightly in. I'm 5'8" and in my case did not like the air flow directly at my face shield. Tiring and lots of bugs.

I have purchased plastic spacers in two different thicknesses to move the top of the shield forward and the smaller spacers will "shim" the bottom of the shield out to create an air gap which will help quell turbulence behind the shield.
If I didn't shim the bottom screw holes the pointed part of the bottom of the shield would hit instrument pod.

Let U guys know if it corrects my situation. Wardie
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Rubyred on April 07, 2016, 03:56:25 AM
Where can the 2016 windshield be ordered?  Any special instructions to install on a 2013 X?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on April 07, 2016, 09:00:44 AM
Being 189 cm tall and not really protected by the original plexiglas of my 2015 X, I thought I could give the 2016 screen a go, as the USA price is so low. Well, I just found out that for the same part, in Italy, you have to fork out 124 euros! Please someone explain the mystery of Honda policies about spare parts!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on April 07, 2016, 10:52:42 AM
*Originally Posted by marktbike [+]
Well, I just found out that for the same part, in Italy, you have to fork out 124 euros! Please someone explain the mystery of Honda policies about spare parts!

Similar rip off price in Britain. We call ourselves rip off Britain.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Grim Rider on April 07, 2016, 11:51:29 AM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
We call ourselves rip off Britain.

I would disassociate myself from that statement - it is a term used by sensationalist journalists to describe situations in which they can identify elements which seem unfair or unreasonable - but I object to it as a blanket description of this fine and historic country which I am proud to live in (mini-rant over  :001:).

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: xihadd on April 07, 2016, 12:03:45 PM
*Originally Posted by marktbike [+]
Being 189 cm tall and not really protected by the original plexiglas of my 2015 X, I thought I could give the 2016 screen a go, as the USA price is so low. Well, I just found out that for the same part, in Italy, you have to fork out 124 euros! Please someone explain the mystery of Honda policies about spare parts!

try: http://www.internationalmotoparts.com/oemparts/a/hon/568d48ac87a8661554ae7aa4/upper-cover-windscreen (http://www.internationalmotoparts.com/oemparts/a/hon/568d48ac87a8661554ae7aa4/upper-cover-windscreen)

76Euros including shipping to malta
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on April 07, 2016, 12:10:10 PM
Thanks...I'm just pondering about taking it or the GiVi one...I think I'll dig the subject some more and then decide
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mister Paul on April 07, 2016, 12:19:52 PM
*Originally Posted by marktbike [+]
Thanks...I'm just pondering about taking it or the GiVi one...I think I'll dig the subject some more and then decide

Let me know what you decide -I'm in the same position.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Rocker66 on April 07, 2016, 01:04:02 PM
*Originally Posted by Grim Rider [+]
I would disassociate myself from that statement - it is a term used by sensationalist journalists to describe situations in which they can identify elements which seem unfair or unreasonable - but I object to it as a blanket description of this fine and historic country which I am proud to live in (mini-rant over  :001:).

Higher taxes on most essential things Essential services such as gas and electric sold off and then charged extortionate am mounts to the extent that pensioners who have worked all their lives and in some cases fought for this country die because they can't afford both heat and food.
A country where those injured whilst fighting for it are cast aside and left to rely on charity. My daughter in law an ex American service woman is treated with far more respect in the USA than our ex service personnel are
A country where a government is prepared to see industries die.
A country where we pay for a health service yet more aspects are then charged for it again
A country where you pay to use the roads that these roads are allowed to fall into disrepair to the extent that the condition of them become a risk to the lives of those that use them
A country where the PM uses £9 million of tax payers money to pulicise his personal propoganda.
Not a rip off country you must be joking
A country that a few years ago introduced imprisonment without trial for some of it's subjects who happened to live in one certain part of it. No I'm afraid we don't have much to be proud of these days
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on April 07, 2016, 01:40:40 PM
Hey, I was just getting to the end of your post when I realized you were not talking about Italy! So bad...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Elgmat on April 10, 2016, 11:27:57 AM
I just bought a 2015 cb500x, and I'm having trouble with exessive wind and noise. Just like many others. I'm 187 and slim buildt. I've read most of the post on this thread, and it seems like the 2016 original windscreen is getting a lot of praise. I think it looks a bit scooterish. Just like the givi windshield. The MRA has more of a touring look. But in the end its the price and effect that matters the most.

So have I read you right when I guess that you guys prefer the 2016 original screen over the MRA?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mister Paul on April 10, 2016, 02:03:34 PM
*Originally Posted by Elgmat [+]
I just bought a 2015 cb500x, and I'm having trouble with exessive wind and noise. Just like many others. I'm 187 and slim buildt. I've read most of the post on this thread, and it seems like the 2016 original windscreen is getting a lot of praise. I think it looks a bit scooterish. Just like the givi windshield. The MRA has more of a touring look. But in the end its the price and effect that matters the most.

So have I read you right when I guess that you guys prefer the 2016 original screen over the MRA?

I think I'm going for the Givi as it's available for £55 from Italy.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on April 10, 2016, 09:02:13 PM
Elgmat:  If you do not plan on riding long distances year round, you could try the free solution first, and remove the windscreen and see if that eliminates the turbulence.  I'm considerably shorter, but long waisted and found that no screen worked best for me.  I toured 3200 miles in two weeks on the bike last summer and didn't miss the windscreen except during a brief hailstorm.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on April 10, 2016, 10:57:51 PM
Too many people bought the Givi and hated it, including me. I think the 2016 screen is a no brainier @ $46.00. I also bought a used stock windshield and cut it down 3-4" . That works too but not much protection.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Elgmat on April 11, 2016, 08:18:42 AM
I ride about 70 km every day, commuting to work. It rains alot, so no windshield is not a good solution.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mister Paul on April 13, 2016, 01:40:41 PM
*Originally Posted by Mister Paul [+]
I think I'm going for the Givi as it's available for £55 from Italy.

I did order this from Italy, but was out a fair bit on the bike yesterday with the standard 2015 screen on. I did a fair bit of moving my hands about in front of me to feel windflow (must have confused some oncoming drivers!), and found still air in front of my body. The wind doesn't come in until around my nose. In the rain this has just meant rainex and sideways shakes occasionally.

So I've cancelled the Givi order. I'm going to give it a bit longer, and see if I can find a source of the 2016 standard screen over here.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Jly51 on April 14, 2016, 04:21:26 AM
 I live in West Tennessee,received a 2016 CB500x windshield yesterday shipped directly from Tailand skipping American Honda warehouse.So if you are waiting for a shield or wish to order one looks like Honda is filling orders,good luck!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mister Paul on April 14, 2016, 08:23:40 AM
*Originally Posted by Jly51 [+]
I live in West Tennessee,received a 2016 CB500x windshield yesterday shipped directly from Tailand skipping American Honda warehouse.So if you are waiting for a shield or wish to order one looks like Honda is filling orders,good luck!

Did you order from Honda US or Thailand? I spoke to a UK dealer yesterday who confirmed the part number but said that Honda haven't even given them prices yet. Which I guess is why it's not coming up on UK searches.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Jly51 on April 14, 2016, 02:41:40 PM
Ordered thru.dealer,he said they bypass the American warehouse at times of large back orders.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: the midget on April 15, 2016, 11:56:17 AM
Does any one know if the 2016 windscreen will bolt directly on a 2013 model?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on April 15, 2016, 01:07:20 PM
- sigh - do people actually read any of this before they ask ?  :110:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Gills on April 15, 2016, 01:30:46 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
- sigh - do people actually read any of this before they ask ?  :110:

When the topic runs to 88 pages, I'm not surprised if they don't! We really need a few FAQ sections and some stickies for topics like this. Then it's easier to find the information in the first place and to point folk in the right direction if they do miss it.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on April 15, 2016, 02:07:32 PM
*Originally Posted by the midget [+]
Does any one know if the 2016 windscreen will bolt directly on a 2013 model?

Yes, see https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,3757.0.html (https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,3757.0.html)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: the midget on April 15, 2016, 02:53:33 PM
Thank you
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on April 15, 2016, 06:18:12 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
- sigh - do people actually read any of this before they ask ?  :110:

You may say that, I could not possibly comment.

But to give the guy a break this is page 89.

I did not say it fitted easily on my 2015 because I was not 100% sure the 2013 is identical, though I'm pretty sure it is. Just need a bit of side pressure on mine.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Susi_X on April 15, 2016, 06:56:19 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller
You may say that, I could not possibly comment.
:745:
yeah, liked that original british hoc  :152:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on April 15, 2016, 07:06:43 PM
*Originally Posted by Susi_X [+]
:745:
yeah, liked that original british hoc  :152:

That's House of Cards for those who do not know.

Well spotted. Now and again we produce some incredible TV. The other great one is Edge of Darkness. I think stupid people have attempted to copy them, bad move. And another disaster was The Day The Earth Stood Still, what a pathetic remake.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bgagnon on April 15, 2016, 08:53:09 PM
*Originally Posted by Jly51 [+]
Ordered thru.dealer,he said they bypass the American warehouse at times of large back orders.

I placed my order 2 weeks ago and just received it today. I will go and get it tonight and install it this weekend. Like I said earlier I will report back on how it goes with my Bruudt bracket.

../Bruno
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on April 17, 2016, 12:43:58 PM
Here's my report on the 2016 Honda CB 500 X windshield installation and tests and why I am selling it.

I installed in both the upper and lower positions. The upper position the wind blasts my face shield and in the lower position the windshield makes my Arai helmet sing!!

I don't want to hassle with shimming out and all that crap so I am selling it. I've listed in the for sale section for just $40.

Wardie
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: motorboy on April 17, 2016, 10:42:47 PM
*Originally Posted by wardie [+]
Here's my report on the 2016 Honda CB 500 X windshield installation and tests and why I am selling it.

I installed in both the upper and lower positions. The upper position the wind blasts my face shield and in the lower position the windshield makes my Arai helmet sing!!

I don't want to hassle with shimming out and all that crap so I am selling it. I've listed in the for sale section for just $40.

Wardie
How tall are you
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on April 17, 2016, 11:37:43 PM
5'-8" or 5'-8 1/4" inches depending on how bad my job beats me down :)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on April 17, 2016, 11:49:15 PM
Wardie I'm 5'9". Bend the brackets to change the angle forward in order to move where the wind hits you. Think of it as an adjustable bracket. I also put 3/4" spacers on the top mount to change the angle further. I have mine on the upper position..
Woke up early this morning and decided to go for breakfast, ended up two counties away ! 160 miles this morning just for the heck of it. Zero buffeting and great sirloin tips, eggs , hash browns and pancakes. Went 70 in a 55 zone all the way back ( not because or the windshield but cause I had to go the bathroom ! ) But the windshield works. I have two more at home ( original, one cut down ) and sold a givi clone. So don't bother spending more money you already have the best that's out there, spend the time adjusting. :306:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on April 17, 2016, 11:55:53 PM
CB-500-X thanks for the tips I think I'll sit this one out. I already installed my old shield and may look for a flipper to add to the top of my shield. It's up for sale now and have a few guys interested. Thanks again for tips. Wardie
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on April 18, 2016, 12:43:22 AM
You're welcome. Good luck.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wyattdog2015 on April 18, 2016, 01:32:49 AM
CB-500-x I have the new windshield on my 2015 an so far much better than the original. Just curious do you have any shims at the bottom of  of the windshield or just the top. If so do you find the steeper angle works better. Thanks
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on April 18, 2016, 05:22:09 AM
The spacers are on the top, almost an afterthought, I used clear plastic bumper legs you put under stuff not to damage the finish on whatever you're setting it on. I bent the brackets before installing. They bend easy, take the windshield off and adjust and line up the brackets , don't force the windshield to line up, adjust the brackets. I find more vertical works for me, but it's an individual thing. Not only does you height matter but your inseam is important i.e. Longer torso means you're  sitting higher. An inch of angle adjustment seems to shift the good air zone 4-5 inches up or down. Take the windshield off and bend each bracket by hand a little bit. Make sure the both line up with each other and the holes for the mounting, don't bend the windshield,  it changes the shape and the turbulence. After you're done lining it up, the windshield should go on as easy as the original. It took me 3-4 adjustment to get it right. Remember wind swirls and does not hit your head straight on, so if it shakes your helmet at speed it means it's swirling over your helmet and hitting you from behind. Also it always was fine up to 55 mph but over that it went to hell before. I could tell what speed I was going because of the turbulence and the noise. Now it's pretty much the same at all speeds even fast freeway speeds. I don't need ear plugs anymore either.
I contemplated selling the darn thing because I hated the turbulence and the noise, after three different windshields I finally found my personal sweet spot.  :002:
I owe not selling it to my buddy Matt on here who kept encouraging me not to give up and that I would eventually get it right. Thanks Matt ! :821:

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/morning-ride-1.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/morning-ride-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wyattdog2015 on April 18, 2016, 06:27:09 AM
Thanks for the response CB-500-x. I may try the upper shims when I get the chance but so far the new windshield is a big change from the original.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: dypen on April 18, 2016, 07:42:19 PM
Thank you for a nice thread about windshield. Have read a little on this topic and decided for a Givi as mounted this evening, we will see if there is any difference when it gets warmer weather so I can take a ride. Price NOK 1105,- Looks very good  :152:

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/givi-1092e0.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/givi-267fe2.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on April 18, 2016, 08:19:28 PM
My new CB 500 X 2016 windshield is for sale in the accessories section. I didn't like it and I'm not going to start bending brackets to make it fit. $40 shipped in USA
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: blake on April 19, 2016, 02:34:57 AM
I have the MRA Vario windscreen on mine and after a long ride I can say I'm happy with the change. It was made by the dealer over the winter, so I didn't have a back to back comparison with stock, but in the lower position it seems to eliminate almost all buffeting while being visually appealing.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: sbeadg on April 19, 2016, 03:44:55 AM
*Originally Posted by Island Rick [+]
Me too, I love the 2016 screen as well for so many reasons. Mostly I am so pleased that Honda saw fit to pursue a solution for a problem that affected us all, and that they are marketing the new screen at a reasonable price.
Let us all ride on, and now we can focus on the really fine machine the CB500X is.
Lately I parked (in the city) next to a Triumph X something, all decked out with every option available. It was clean as a whistle, my CB500X was all muddy and dirty from some serious adventure.  I just smiled, knowing who was having all the fun...

Cheers to all us lucky ones

IR
I just picked up my '16 X today and I have to say, I didn't appreciate how well the Givi touring screen and Madstad bracket on my Vstrom works. I'm 5'8".  I just moved it from the lower to the higher position and didn't feel much difference on a very brief ride.  I'm not experiencing buffeting, just lots of wind blast.  I keep looking at the speedo expecting it to read faster than it does.  I suppose that's not a bad thing.... :006:  I will try the spacers.
Keeping my fingers crossed.
I love a lot about my new bike but until I sort out the windscreen, I will miss the wind protection on the Vstrom, which I really want to sell so I can get a good set of panniers and have travelin' coin.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: oldmopars on April 19, 2016, 11:05:33 PM
Biggest issue with the pre-16 windsrceen is the curve at the top, it does nothing to deflect the air up and over. The 16 has a more straight shot plus the ducts at the bottom to equalize the pressure and create a more laminar type flow. However, if you are taller, you may still have issues with the 16 style. You may still need to add a lip, or adjustable brackets to make it work for you.
I am working on a set of brackets that will allow the windshield to be mounted flush with the existing mounts, but moved up at least one position higher to help with the air flow. I will post pictures of it when its done and see if anyone wants a set. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: letterip on May 27, 2016, 11:06:01 PM
So, after reading through *all* the posts, I decided to bite the bullet and give the '16 windscreen a shot on my 2013 500X.  In addition to the buffeting issue at speed, I've been getting pounded by bugs being directed onto my helmet face mask.  For reference, I'm 5'7" with a 29" inseam. 

I ordered the new screen through my local Honda dealer and it was delivered the next day!  Price for reference of my fellow Canuck riders was $70 + taxes, so CDN$79 all-in.

For those suffering from "bending anxiety", I can tell you that the needed adjustment to the existing windshield mounts is very minor (more a "tweak" than a "bend") and the mounts are quite easy to move (need to shift a couple of millimetres towards the centreline).  Total time required to remove the old and install the new screen was about 20 minutes.

Riding report to follow...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on May 28, 2016, 12:43:48 AM
Good call on the 2016 windshield, plus it looks so much better. I have bent, adjusted and unbent mine drastically at least 12 times experimenting on three different windshields to zero ill effect. The metal is quite malleable.  Have to line em up so there is no stress on the windshield.  :132:
I think I paid $ 46.00 US 3-4 months ago.
Title: So, ride report Letterip?
Post by: Michel Savage on June 02, 2016, 04:46:49 AM
Please, ride report on your screen... I replaced mine for a 16, and still get severe buffeting at top of helmet. I had used 1/4 inch spacers on top, and recently removed them...
Title: Re: So, ride report Letterip?
Post by: julman99 on June 02, 2016, 01:35:37 PM
*Originally Posted by Michel Savage [+]
Please, ride report on your screen... I replaced mine for a 16, and still get severe buffeting at top of helmet. I had used 1/4 inch spacers on top, and recently removed them...

I am 6'1 and the 2016 screen did not work for me. I felt the same problem as you, buffeting at top of helmet. I tried with spacers, and also with the bruudt brackets, and did not help.

Then I installed the Givi screen along with the bruudt brackets and hooooooooollllyyyyy god. It feels I have a completely different bike. See this thread with more info and links: https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,714.msg41704.html#msg41704 (https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,714.msg41704.html#msg41704)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wyattdog2015 on June 02, 2016, 05:29:16 PM
could you possibly post a picture. thanks
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on June 02, 2016, 11:44:52 PM
I just bought and tried the 2016 wind screen and although it looks much better I did not find any improvement over the OEM 2013 screen so I put the GIVI back on with 3/8" spacers on the bottom two screws. Yes I did have to buy longer screws and yes I did have to tweak the brackets for the 2016 screen. Noe the GIVI fits better.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: julman99 on June 03, 2016, 02:14:39 AM
*Originally Posted by wyattdog2015 [+]
could you possibly post a picture. thanks

I will on Saturday
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on June 03, 2016, 11:42:28 AM
Whether a particular windshield works for someone or not is a result of rider height, rider inseam ( as in how high your torso sits above the seat ) the spacing, and the angle of the windshield. All variables have to be just right and are different for most people. Getting it right ? Takes a lot of adjusting, spacing, changing the angle ect. More hit and miss . I'd say it's almost a black art without your own personal wind tunnel. No easy fix since it's different for almost everyone. But persisitance pays off.
 :305:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on June 03, 2016, 12:12:40 PM
You're right. I tried a Givi screen on a 500X I was considering buying: heavy buffeting, far more than the regular 2013-2015 screen. So, following this thread, I bought a 2016 screen. Buffeting on top of helmet, quite strong. Next, I will attempt the 30 mm spacers on a four screws, following a recent suggestion here. Now, if I listen to Jimmy Buffet music while riding, will I get more or less "Buffeting"...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: julman99 on June 03, 2016, 12:25:34 PM
*Originally Posted by Michel Savage [+]
Next, I will attempt the 30 mm spacers on a four screws, following a recent suggestion here. Now, if I listen to Jimmy Buffet music while riding, will I get more or less "Buffeting"...

Like I posted in other thread, the Givi screen + the bruudt adapter completely transformed my bike. It adds about 1 inch space, and you can move the screen a bit higher than stock. My current problem is that I don't get enough wind on the helmet :).

I am 6'1, and yes, I know height is not the only important factor, but at least is a starting point.

This is the other thread: https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,714.msg41883.html#msg41883 (https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,714.msg41883.html#msg41883)
Bruudt adapter: http://www.bruudtcnc.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p239_bruudt-windscreen-adjusters-fort-the-honda-cb500-x.html (http://www.bruudtcnc.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p239_bruudt-windscreen-adjusters-fort-the-honda-cb500-x.html)

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on June 03, 2016, 12:32:36 PM
Julman99... I hear ya. Your solution, however, is a rather expensive one. I will try the cheap alternatives first, like 30 mm spacers on all four screws, and see what happens. I don't mind a bit of wind, but frankly, buffeting is tiring on the long run. Never had this problem on my CBR250R, aboard which I did a lot of long distance traveling...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on June 03, 2016, 01:59:10 PM
*Originally Posted by Michel Savage [+]
You're right. I tried a Givi screen on a 500X I was considering buying: heavy buffeting, far more than the regular 2013-2015 screen. So, following this thread, I bought a 2016 screen. Buffeting on top of helmet, quite strong. Next, I will attempt the 30 mm spacers on a four screws, following a recent suggestion here. Now, if I listen to Jimmy Buffet music while riding, will I get more or less "Buffeting"...
Love Jimmy Buffet !
I get far less "Jimmy Buffeting" with my 2016 screen on the higher position with spacers.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on June 03, 2016, 02:00:50 PM
Please elaborate on "with spacers"...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on June 03, 2016, 02:16:25 PM
longer screws and plastic spacers from Home Depot or any other hardware store - you will need M5-0.8 X 50 Socket stainless steel head cap screws.( the picture below shows M5-0.8 X 40 that are not stainless and too short, but you get the idea ) Get the 50 lenght .
Also the pictures show the old windshield, I used the exact same setup on the 2016 screen, no difference. Make sure you put plastic washers between the screws and the windshield. Everything was less then $5.00


(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/ws-spacers-10.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/ws-spacers-6.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/ws-spacers-3.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/ws-spacers-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Wouken on June 03, 2016, 02:54:28 PM
I have the givi tallscreen on my 2015 x. I had some buffeting at high speed (120km/h) on my helmet. Bud this week i installed the givi universal screen spoiler on it. Angled it almost straight up. And what happend. The buffeting was gone. When i drove it i even didn't notice i was going 135kph.
So this worked. Now i lowerd the screen back on the low possition. and will test it today. I lowerd it for a better view on the road. Also i Have 2 small black rubber spacers at the lowest screws to have a little air gap. Pictures later on. Bud its all up to testing and tuning and finding that sweetspot.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tenere on June 03, 2016, 03:08:40 PM
I'm new to this forum and I've never had the chance to read the posts regarding screen buffeting, I've done some long tours and many off road enduros with all sorts of bikes and the same question comes up all the time, the only two bike I've ridden that didn't need to improve the screen was the Bmw RT models and the Bmw 1200gsa, what I've come across on every bike I've rode is the screen needs to be more in a upright position the height will play a part if you are a very tall person but if you can have the screen in a upright position the faster you go the bigger the whirl of wind you create, that will make the wind go over your head, if you are tall then look at a taller screen and do the same with that, I do think the spacers that are used to lift the screen out to let the wind travel though is a good thing but the top spacers need to be longer than the bottom one to make the screen more upright,,,, hope that makes some sense,,,,I'm a Xt600  tenere rider and I had to make my own screens as the bike didn't come with a screen, so I've had loads of practice making screens from plastic waste bins that stand in the kitchen, they are the only thing that was ridged to bend into shape and able to fold
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on June 03, 2016, 04:48:19 PM
Excellent. I'm on it tomorrow! Thanks!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: alejo976 on June 03, 2016, 05:54:28 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
longer screws and plastic spacers from Home Depot or any other hardware store - you will need M5-0.8 X 50 Socket stainless steel head cap screws.( the picture below shows M5-0.8 X 40 that are not stainless and too short, but you get the idea ) Get the 50 lenght .
Also the pictures show the old windshield, I used the exact same setup on the 2016 screen, no difference. Make sure you put plastic washers between the screws and the windshield. Everything was less then $5.00

these are the spacers... i will get few with different sizes to setup it up to my size 5'10"
thanks for the pics!
http://www.homedepot.com/s/nylon+spacer?NCNI-5 (http://www.homedepot.com/s/nylon+spacer?NCNI-5)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on June 04, 2016, 02:07:50 PM
I tried 2016 Honda windshield on my 14' and didn't like where it placed the air stream. I tried spacing out my stock windshield to no affect. Now I've ordered from Germany a Brundt adjustable bracket that works with stock windshield. We'll see what happens when I install and test. Will report findings.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: julman99 on June 04, 2016, 07:25:51 PM
*Originally Posted by wyattdog2015 [+]
could you possibly post a picture. thanks

Here they are!

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_20160604_114028360.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_20160604_114034350.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_20160604_114057035.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_20160604_114108598.jpg)

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on June 04, 2016, 11:34:43 PM
*Originally Posted by Michel Savage [+]
Please elaborate on "with spacers"...

Here's a few pics of the 2016 w.screen.

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_3347.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_3348.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/IMG_3349.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CTBill on June 07, 2016, 11:54:24 AM
Here is one more cheap option not yet posted!

I cut the "wings" off my '14 shield, because I felt the turbulence and helmet buffeting was being caused by air coming off the area around those wings and the headlight cowl.  I added 1/2 in spacers as others have done, mounted in the high position.  Added benefit - no issues with touching or clearance with my Barkbuster Storms...

Wind hits right above my helmet chinbar at 60-65 mph, and clean air.

(I use the Givi screen in colder months with the same spacers, in the low position for full protection with great success as well)



5'-9" with 30" inseam, average build...as info
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on June 07, 2016, 12:00:06 PM
I wouldn't want any kind of air to be directed at my chinbar or face shield. Too tiring on long trips. If it works for you great. Wardie
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Rocker66 on June 07, 2016, 01:40:20 PM
The other day I did a trip along the coast including across the Romney Marshes where there were plenty of flying bugs. When I returned home my Gvi screen was well bugged but the visor of my Arai Tour-X4 had no bugs at all . I feel that this shows that the screen had done a good job
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bgagnon on June 12, 2016, 01:20:57 AM
*Originally Posted by wardie [+]
I tried 2016 Honda windshield on my 14' and didn't like where it placed the air stream. I tried spacing out my stock windshield to no affect. Now I've ordered from Germany a Brundt adjustable bracket that works with stock windshield. We'll see what happens when I install and test. Will report findings.

Wardie,  Great stuff. The Bruudt and the stock screen solved my problem. It's the best kept secret on the forum. I have a CB500X 2016 screen barley used to sell. I will post in the right forum.  :002:

I use the Bruudt + the stock screen on the higher position. I have also fitted 2 plumbing washer 1\8 inch one over the other on each top screw to tilt the screen forward. The longer spacer from Home depot probably do a good job on the stock screen without the bruudt spacers since the bruudt is a spacer + a way to have the screen higher.

../Bruno
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CTBill on June 12, 2016, 11:52:31 PM
*Originally Posted by CTBill [+]
Here is one more cheap option not yet posted!

I cut the "wings" off my '14 shield, because I felt the turbulence and helmet buffeting was being caused by air coming off the area around those wings and the headlight cowl.  I added 1/2 in spacers as others have done, mounted in the high position.  Added benefit - no issues with touching or clearance with my Barkbuster Storms...

Wind hits right above my helmet chinbar at 60-65 mph, and clean air.

(I use the Givi screen in colder months with the same spacers, in the low position for full protection with great success as well)



5'-9" with 30" inseam, average build...as info

UPDATE:  played around again on a recent 400 mile round trip to VT.  I removed the spacers, and used the standard well nuts in the upper position.  I like it even better than with the spacers!  I still think the trimming of the "wings" has improved airflow around the lower sides and bottom of my helmets - Bell Qualifier, and Bell Vortex - which I believe is where the buffetting happens for me .  Free mod, but a one time deal obviously...  Something to try, and certainly if you hate the stock screen anyway!

Still have the Givi for full coverage, and love it in colder months.  I like some air flow over/around my helmet in the warmer months tho...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mister Paul on June 16, 2016, 09:31:36 AM
I fitted the Givi screen last night on the higher setting. 5 minute job.

Report from my 23 mile (mix of lanes and motorway) is that things are much, much quieter now. I'm 5'9"ish and the flow is hitting my helmet just above my visor, so air is getting to the top vent. It will be good to see how it is in the rain.

It's early days, but I think there's a little buffetting which is moving my head slightly from side to side. With the normal screen there was a smooth but strong flow of air. This almost feels rhythmic. It's a shame because if i duck down a couple of inches then there's no wind on my helmet and wind noise almost disappears. Not sure how to get that extra bit of clearance. I might start experimenting with tap washers to move the screen out or adjust the angle.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on June 16, 2016, 03:29:27 PM
I have the Honda dark screen, it's a Givi sold by 118bikes in Thailand.I spaced the bottom of my screen 10 mm.I'm hoping it will smooth the air flow.Unfortunately,I can't test it far another few days at least.I have my bike apart for a long list of upgrades and modifications.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on June 16, 2016, 06:10:18 PM
*Originally Posted by Mister Paul [+]
I fitted the Givi screen last night on the higher setting. I'm 5'9"ish and the flow is hitting my helmet just above my visor, so air is getting to the top vent.

With the normal screen there was a smooth but strong flow of air. This almost feels rhythmic. It's a shame because if I duck down a couple of inches there's no wind on my helmet and wind noise almost disappears.

I am 6'2" tall and have a tall California Scientific windscreen. It has a port in the bottom that creates a quiet zone behind the screen. Unfortunately I am a little too tall, and like you the wind hits the top of my helmets creating noise. If I crouch forward the wind and noise disappear.

I tried using spacers to move the top of the screen forward, but it created a soft drumming noise. The screen and brackets on the bike also seemed to be passing vibration through the bike, although I felt no wind buffeting.

While out riding I placed one arm across the top of the windscreen and the wind noise stopped. When I purchase my next Cal Sci windscreen, I may get them to custom make a taller one for me.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on June 16, 2016, 06:42:00 PM
*Originally Posted by Nortoon [+]
While out riding I placed one arm across the top of the windscreen and the wind noise stopped. When I purchase my next Cal Sci windscreen, I may get them to custom make a taller one for me.

How about one of those adjustable spoilers that screw to the top of the screen, pretty close to what you are describing with your arm.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on June 16, 2016, 07:55:36 PM
The Cal Sci windscreen is made of thinner material than the Honda screens. Given it's height, I am a little concerned that adding an adjustable spoiler to the top may create a lot of vibration and/or buffeting. Worse case scenario would be having it crack or snap at speed.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on June 17, 2016, 02:51:58 PM
*Originally Posted by Nortoon [+]
The Cal Sci windscreen is made of thinner material

Oh well, I thought it was a good idea, 'till now.

For 20 years as a born again biker I never considered wind, I just rode them. Then I got the V-Strom learned how fickle it can be. A real black art problem.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mister Paul on June 17, 2016, 04:07:28 PM
*Originally Posted by Mister Paul [+]
I fitted the Givi screen last night on the higher setting. 5 minute job.

Report from my 23 mile (mix of lanes and motorway) is that things are much, much quieter now. I'm 5'9"ish and the flow is hitting my helmet just above my visor, so air is getting to the top vent. It will be good to see how it is in the rain.

It's early days, but I think there's a little buffetting which is moving my head slightly from side to side. With the normal screen there was a smooth but strong flow of air. This almost feels rhythmic. It's a shame because if i duck down a couple of inches then there's no wind on my helmet and wind noise almost disappears. Not sure how to get that extra bit of clearance. I might start experimenting with tap washers to move the screen out or adjust the angle.

Fitted a tap washer to the top two mounts last night.

This morning I think it's a bit better. Can ride up to about 40mph with the visor open and only a little wind to the eyes.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on June 17, 2016, 05:39:01 PM
*Originally Posted by hilldweller [+]
For 20 years as a born again biker I never considered wind, I just rode them. Then I got the V-Strom learned how fickle it can be. A real black art problem.

During my twenties (The Decade of Decadence) I wore an open face helmet and sunglasses. Back then motorcycles did not have wind screens, except the big "Hardly Ablesons". However it never bothered us on our British bikes or "Kawashaky H2 Mach Four Widow Makers".

But when I think about, we worked 5 days a week, so we seldom left the city. Spent most of our work nights at a local donut shop parking lot talking motorcycles not riding them. Friday and Saturdays were party nights. Back then if you didn't have a 24 of beer strapped to the back of the seat when you arrived at a party you were frowned upon. Sunday was a day to catch up on your sleep and recuperate. How times have changed.

My first motorcycle with a windscreen was a 1980 Yamaha XS1100G which I decked out with a Vetter fairing, saddlebags and trunk. I was married by that time, and the wife and touring club expected you to be driving something more civilized.

Two years later a local Honda shop owner made me a trade-in offer on a Goldwing Aspencade I could not refuse. What a quiet and comfortable motorcycle for long trips. No wind noise problems with an open face helmet on it. Nice stereo system, AM/FM radio, intercom, and CB radio. It was like riding in an expensive two-wheeled convertible with a cushy suspension.

However a big heavy bike would not be suitable now for my enthusiastic rides through the twisty back roads. So until I find the perfect windscreen, My tall Cal Sci screen and soft ear plugs will do.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on June 21, 2016, 02:34:37 AM
My saga continues.

Tried (a bike test) 500X with Givi windshield: tons of turbulence.

My 2014 X with stock windshield in high position: tons of turbulence (buffeting).

Bought the 2016 windshield. In high position: tons of turbulence.

Tried NO windshield at all: lots of wind, but no turbulence at all. This felt a whole lot better than with any windshield. Felt like my CBR250R.

Now, will try the stock windshield (again), but in low position. Next, with 1 inch spacers...

I am 5'8".
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: theloop on June 21, 2016, 04:39:25 AM
*Originally Posted by Nortoon [+]
During my twenties (The Decade of Decadence) I wore an open face helmet and sunglasses. Back then motorcycles did not have wind screens, except the big "Hardly Ablesons". However it never bothered us on our British bikes or "Kawashaky H2 Mach Four Widow Makers".

But when I think about, we worked 5 days a week, so we seldom left the city. Spent most of our work nights at a local donut shop parking lot talking motorcycles not riding them. Friday and Saturdays were party nights. Back then if you didn't have a 24 of beer strapped to the back of the seat when you arrived at a party you were frowned upon. Sunday was a day to catch up on your sleep and recuperate. How times have changed.

My first motorcycle with a windscreen was a 1980 Yamaha XS1100G which I decked out with a Vetter fairing, saddlebags and trunk. I was married by that time, and the wife and touring club expected you to be driving something more civilized.

Two years later a local Honda shop owner made me a trade-in offer on a Goldwing Aspencade I could not refuse. What a quiet and comfortable motorcycle for long trips. No wind noise problems with an open face helmet on it. Nice stereo system, AM/FM radio, intercom, and CB radio. It was like riding in an expensive two-wheeled convertible with a cushy suspension.

However a big heavy bike would not be suitable now for my enthusiastic rides through the twisty back roads. So until I find the perfect windscreen, My tall Cal Sci screen and soft ear plugs will do.

+1 On the tall Cal Sci.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i80.photobucket.com/albums/j177/fleetdad/DSCI0540_zps0b4646bd.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mic on June 21, 2016, 06:13:23 AM
I was just out in my garage looking at my windscreen.

The first thing I noticed is that it's actually rather tilted back, too sportbike like which is meant to tuck under at speed. It needs to have a little more vertical to it IMHO for touring.

I think I'm going to make my own adjustable bracket (similar to madstad) and play with angles and a tall honda windshield.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: tamminen on June 22, 2016, 06:26:54 AM
First post, but had to share.  Purchased a non-current 2014 earlier this spring.  Love the bike, but the wind turbulence was driving me crazy on the highways.  I switched multiple times between the high and low settings and put in spacers on the lower mounts, which helped some.  I finally broke down when a local dealer gave me a good deal on a 2016 windshield.  With a little bit of tweaking on the mounts it went on fairly easy and quick.  For me it made a very noticeable difference in comfort and stability for the bike.  I still catch a little wind on the top of my helmet, but it isn't anything like the stock screen and what wind there is isn't bothersome anymore.  Last week I rode 1200 miles over 3 days and enjoyed every mile of it.  Most of those miles were at speeds between 60 - 80 mph.  With the stock screen it would of been just enduring rather than enjoying.  I am 5-8 with a tall torso.  I have the 2016 screen on the high setting with 1/8 inch spacers on the bottom mounts.  I also wear simple foam earplugs for long distances.  But so does my brother on his FJR and V-Strom, and my other riding partners on their Triumph Tiger and Yamaha Tenere. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on June 22, 2016, 07:32:02 AM
Mmm... The plot thickens and the mystery deepens.

After trying the 2016 unit (lots of turbulence on top of helmet), I tried no windscreen (clean flow of air, no turbulence), and now I'm back with the stock unit in low position (turbulence at mouth level, but clean flow on the top of helmet). I still have to find and try spacers in Thailand :one inch, on the four mounts. I'll try spacers on both the stock windshield and the 2016. And report. 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on June 22, 2016, 03:41:40 PM
A taller screen with an air flow port helps create a taller quiet zone. Mine is very tall, but so am I. Most of the wind blast is directed at the top of my helmets. With soft ear plugs the ride is usually comfortably quiet.

But yesterday was windy. I noticed the wind was catching my elbows and pushing the air onto my chest and up towards my helmet. No enough to cause any buffeting or excessive noise however.

But I did get hit square between my eyes by a large bug spattering on my visor. Fortunately I carry a wet micro fiber cloth in a Ziploc bag in my tank bag. A quick stop to clean the visor and I was on my way again.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Island X on June 26, 2016, 02:50:59 AM
I put the touring screen from Ermax on mine. It brought the wind up to my forehead instead of chest and neck. It feels so much nicer in the cold.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on June 27, 2016, 07:03:50 AM
So here's the report.Stock shield with spacers: no. 2016 screen with spacers, top and bottom, then only bottom: NO. Just back from 371 km in the jungle with 2016 w-shield with 1/4 in spacers at bottom: slightly better up to 50 km/h, after: NO.

So, it leaves me with two alternatives: the GIVI-copy screen with 1/2 inch spacers at bottom (as per suggestion here), and new full face helmet.

More to come on this. My intent is to try every single possible arrangement.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Tas on June 27, 2016, 08:28:11 AM
Have you tried riding without a screen so you can see your base noise level to make sure its not your helmet? I ride with the stock screen on low and spacers on bottom and am fine. But I am 6' 3" tall so head is in clear air. I also have a Windjammer 2 on the bottom of my helmet that reduces helmet noise so I dont need earplugs.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on June 27, 2016, 08:33:06 AM
Tas: yes, I rode without a windshield. Clean flow of air, no turbulence whatsoever. But at speed, it's a lot of clean air...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on June 27, 2016, 03:54:36 PM
*Originally Posted by Michel Savage [+]
So it leaves me with two alternatives: the GIVI-copy screen with 1/2 inch spacers at bottom (as per suggestion here), and new full face helmet.

My Shoei RF-1200 full face helmet is much quieter than my Bell MAG-9 open face helmet. The Shoei fits tight against my cheeks so the wind cannot reach my ears except by passing my chin. But it does have a chin curtain which I may try later in the fall. As I am claustrophobic, I find a full face helmet confining.

The Bell helmet is more comfortable, cooler, easier to put on and take off, but it is noisy. The air passes under the visor. There are also slots for a drop down sun visor that allow the air deeper into the helmet. Cavities by the ears for speakers and a intercom system increase the noise level as well.

Had I known all this I would have bought the old style Bell 500. No drop down sun visor or unused intercom cavities, just lots of soft sound deadening padding. With my sunglass and a snap on visor, it probably would be much quieter than the more expensive Mag-9.

Like wind screens, helmet purchases have been a lot of expensive trial and error. Unfortunately it been mostly error so far. :012:
 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on June 28, 2016, 12:06:04 AM
Spaced my 118bikes (dark Givi) 10mm at the bottom,and it got a little better, but still crap above 55mph.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mad max on June 28, 2016, 08:12:54 PM
I have a 2016 X and unfortunately I'm not at all satisfied with the (now larger) windshield. I'm a bit over 6 feet, and I get considerable buffeting and turbulence and vibrations and noise and whatnot at almost any speed. My ears still hurt from today's rides.

I have tried the following:
High position: bad
Low position: bad
High with spacers on top/bottom: bad/bad
Low with spacers on top/bottom: bad/bad

No windshield at all: what a relief. "Clean" airflow, cooler. no wind-induced vibrations, by far the most comfortable ride (It was fairly warm today though).

I have also tried ducking behind the windshield, and it gets very quiet the moment the shield reaches the height of my mouth/nose.

So I figured I could get either a really tall windshield or I could just get a really short shield/faceplate instead (or both, one for hot, one for cold season).

Problem is, I really don't like the look of the bike without a windshield!

Does anyone know about a short windscreen/facpeplate with as little aerodynamic effect as possible that could fit the 2016 model?

Do the tall windshield options out there fit the 2016 model?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on June 28, 2016, 10:15:27 PM
*Originally Posted by mad max [+]
I have a 2016 X and unfortunately I'm not at all satisfied with the (now larger) windshield. I'm a bit over 6 feet, and I get considerable buffeting and turbulence and vibrations and noise and whatnot at almost any speed. My ears still hurt from today's rides.

No windshield at all: what a relief. "Clean" airflow, cooler. no wind-induced vibrations, by far the most comfortable ride (It was fairly warm today though).

So I figured I could get either a really tall windshield or I could just get a really short shield/faceplate instead.

Problem is, I really don't like the look of the bike without a windshield!

Does anyone know about a short windscreen/facpeplate with as little aerodynamic effect as possible that could fit the 2016 model?

Do the tall windshield options out there fit the 2016 model?

I am 6'2" tall. Today my dealer lent me a Yamaha FZ-09 while my X was in the shop. It has no windscreen of any kind. In the city there was very little wind noise at all while wearing my noisy open face helmet. At 95 KPH on the highway I had to stop and install my ear plugs. Nice quiet ride after that with no buffeting. At 4-lane speeds 110 to 120 KPH there was considerable wind blast on my body and the wind was trying to lift my helmet.

So from that little experiment I learned that the shape of the X (the beak and slope back windscreen perhaps) is a good deal of our wind noise problem. But I would not want to ride without a wind screen.

To answer your question about a short screen. The screen that came with the pre-2016 models was terrible, hence this very long and growing longer windscreen thread. The tall 2016 screen was an improvement, but not for taller riders.

My very tall California Scientific windscreen does a good job of deflecting the wind blast and there is no buffeting. The wind and bugs are deflected to the top of my helmets. My open face helmet is too noisy at highways speeds without ear soft plugs. My full face helmet is OK, but much better with soft ear plugs.

People who bought the 2016 screen were able to fit it on the 2013 to 2015 Xs. So any windscreen made for the X should fit the 2016 model.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mad max on June 28, 2016, 10:29:17 PM
Thank you Nortoon!

So any of the larger alternatives should work.

When I was asking about a short screen, I was really thinking about something that doesn't do much regarding airflow, because I really liked the ride with no windshield at all, but not the look of the bike with no screen attached. Is there a big difference between pre-2016-screen vs none?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on June 29, 2016, 01:54:34 AM
Cut a 2013 windshield 3" , it was great, looked better after I plasticoted it. Best alternative to the stock screen . However the 2016 screen works better for my height at 5'9".
Here's the link:  https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,82.469.html (https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,82.469.html)

It's page 68 of this thread.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on June 29, 2016, 02:26:46 AM
*Originally Posted by mad max [+]
When I was asking about a short screen, I was really thinking about something that doesn't do much regarding airflow, because I really liked the ride with no windshield at all, but not the look of the bike with no screen attached. Is there a big difference between pre-2016-screen vs none?

In my opinion, yes.  I'm short (5' 5.5") and short in-seamed (28").  Removal provided smooth air at the head and shoulders, which is what I wanted.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on June 29, 2016, 04:11:37 AM
Mad Max: The 2016 windshield is a little better than the stock 2014-2015 model, with spacers at the bottom. But like you, I've read every post in this thread, and I am about to buy a new full face helmet, as well as a Givi-copy windshield with 1/2 inch spacers at the bottom. So far, like you, I found no windshield to be the best turbulence-free alternative. But bugs, rain, and highway speeds negate this choice.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on June 29, 2016, 05:22:50 AM
*Originally Posted by mad max [+]
Is there a big difference between pre-2016-screen vs none?

None would leave the Honda wind screen brackets sticking up, which would be real ugly. One member cut them off which is a rather drastic measure for a new bike.

There have been several other suggestions for taller riders.
One was an adjustable wind deflector added to the top of the wind screen.
A second was a Givi wind screen mounted with Bruudt adjustable brackets.
My suggestion was the Cal Sci wind screen.
I tried adding the Bruudt brackets, but it made things worse because of the design of the Cal Sci screen.

For taller riders most of these suggestions will move the wind blast to the top of their helmets. A quiet helmet and soft ear plugs really add to the comfort of highway riding by reducing the levels of wind noise around the helmet.



Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on June 29, 2016, 05:44:41 AM
I hear you Nortoon, but the SciCal windshield is too expensive. I'm "only" 5'8". So far, of the 100 pages of this thread, positive comments are:

-- SciCal windshield, with or without adjustable brackets
-- Givi (copy or original) with Bruundt brackets or with 1/2 inch spacers at bottom
-- Some wrote that the 2014-2015 windshield and the 2016 one work with spacers (but not in                                            my experience)
-- No windshield at all
-- Various combinations of windshields with wind deflectors
-- Better full face helmets and ear plugs

I am now about to go get the Givi copy, and a new full face helmet (mine was 3/4).

I'll report back.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on June 29, 2016, 09:13:39 AM
I gave up the search for a screen that gives me proper protection without any turbulences. So on my 2015 X I stick to the OEM screen in the high position. Of course I get too many bugs, but the flow is absolutely clean and there is no buffeting. On longer rides I use silicone earplugs to stop the noise coming through my modular helmet (noisier than average full face). I'm 189 cm (about 6'3") tall with 34" inseam.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mister Paul on June 29, 2016, 11:59:26 AM
A couple of weeks in and I'm happy with the Givi screen. It's on the high setting and has a tap washer inserted on the top mounts.

No bugs on my visor. Rain is pushed down the visor and not as bad as with the stock screen, so don't have to bother with wiping or treating the visor any more. I've just ridden 10 miles through a downpour and the protection is pretty good.

Sound massively better. To the point that I got paranoid yesterday about a subtle whirring noise I'd not heard before, because it was drowned by the wind noise.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: djmiller217 on June 29, 2016, 01:52:14 PM
MadStad on my 16X. Love it! Don
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: djmiller217 on June 29, 2016, 01:56:36 PM
From the front in down position! Don
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on June 29, 2016, 02:38:53 PM
Just bought the Givi copy and installed it on the high position at the shop. Yes, definitely better that both the OEM and the 2016 screens on the way back in dense city driving. I've just now installed 1/2 inch spacers on the four screws. Test to come tomorrow on highway. I'll report back. As reference, I'm 5'8". If the spacers are not enough, I'll install 1,25 inch.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on June 30, 2016, 12:51:49 AM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
Cut a 2013 windshield 3" , it was great, looked better after I plasticoted it. Best alternative to the stock screen . However the 2016 screen works better for my height at 5'9".
Here's the link:  https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,82.469.html (https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,82.469.html)

It's page 68 of this thread.

here's a few pics after the plasticote


(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/1871c2fa9833afec0.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/8.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/52d821a7619a3f238.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mad max on June 30, 2016, 08:09:18 AM
Looks great! I think I'll give that a try too. Have you tried it with spacers? They might reduce turbulence even more. Edit: Or are you using spacers on the bottom? Can't tell. Edit2: Ok, you bent the carriers!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on July 01, 2016, 05:20:49 AM
GIVI Report... I installed the Givi-copy with four 1/2 inch spacers (using fuel hose). Yesterday, I came back from downtown - a mix of city driving at 60 km/h and highway at about 90-100 km/h. Yes, there is still a bit of turbulent air above my eyes... But you know what? I had no visor on my open face helmet... Even at 100 km/h, my eyes were out of turbulent air. The windshield sits a little bit below eye level, and air hits on top of my helmet. Compared to the OEM shield and the 2016 shield, in low or high positions, with or without spacers, this Givi-copy with spacers is a huge improvement. Now, my next decision is helmets. Since I am protected from air flow, choosing a helmet becomes a difficult endeavor. A full face makes me claustrophobic, and is too hot in Thailand. But it's safe. A modular helmet such as the Shark Evo combines the best of both worlds, but it's heavy, and noisy (I hear). Now, I'm left with open face, 3/4... Not really safe, but light, noisy and cool... I just spent 3 hours looking at helmet reviews. I'm going crazy. Anyone with a Givi or Puig or Scical tall screens has suggestions?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on July 01, 2016, 12:52:29 PM
I can tell you what not to buy: a Bell MAG-9. It has cool features like a drop down sun visor, pockets for speakers and an intercom system. All these devices leave air space which create noise.

If I were to buy another open face helmet, I would buy the BELL Custom 500. No fancy do-dads, just a good helmet with lots of cushy face fitting padding to keep the wind and noise out.

You might consider a helmet with cooling vents. But unfortunately opening the vents creates noise, lots of noise.

Whatever you consider buying, try it on for comfort. I was told it would take a month for my Shoei RF-1200 to break in. It took a year, and the cheek pads are still uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on July 01, 2016, 04:41:05 PM
If it wasn't so expensive, the Shoei J-Cruise...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mad max on July 01, 2016, 06:55:21 PM
I though before I start buying and cutting down a windshield, I'll try if I really like it. So I took a sheet of aluminum and cut it roughly like I would cut the windshield to test what it feels like! And what can I say, for me (about 6') it feels like no windshield at all, which is exactly what I hoped for and (although just a roughly cut piece of aluminum badly painted in black) it kind of looked cool.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on July 03, 2016, 01:36:53 AM
For mad max....

Expect to see this:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/P1000610_zpsh5oogu8f.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/P1000610_zpsh5oogu8f.jpg.html)

But, it is part of why I ride   :001:

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on July 03, 2016, 02:20:23 AM
Lift the visor and live a little John ! bugs are good protein   :004:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on July 03, 2016, 04:50:04 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
Lift the visor and live a little John ! bugs are good protein   :004:

 :745:   :004:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mad max on July 03, 2016, 11:29:19 PM
 :001: It's going to be fine! I have only ridden motorcycles without windshields before and if I'm doing a longer tour / lots of freeway I can always try a larger screen. But I won't ever be completely happy with the 2016 screen!

I am still not sure if the 13-15 original (or third party) screens really fit the 2016. I know some have installed the '16 screen on older models (and it doesn't seem to be a perfect fit), but has anyone else tried the other way round? I am not ready to bend anything on my X (yet)...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Michel Savage on July 04, 2016, 03:15:08 AM
You can bend at will. But depending on your height, it won't change much. I settled for a copy of Givi, It's OK.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: rob russell on August 16, 2016, 08:28:29 PM
Just a newbie.. but i just bought the 2016 I am 5.11 and i have just did a 300 mile trip and found the stock windshield just fine. I use to ride with a full fairing on a vtx 1300 and had no problem with the wind on my body or helmet I was impress on how good the windshield worked.. Thought i would have more than my full fairing but not even close..   
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: C-rider on August 16, 2016, 10:07:28 PM
I have always found my bike to be a bit less stable in the winds than I would like it to be.  I often couldn't relax my hands on the bars too much. Also, having to make constant subtle inputs to counteract the effects of the winds causes my back to get sore.   My '13 X has the optional Honda high windscreen behind which I have placed 3/8" spacers.  That change reduced noise and turbulence.  Recently, because of the very hot summer we've been having I was playing around with different windscreen positions - up and down, no screen at all, etc.  On one go I removed the top spacers but left the bottom ones in.  That increased slope more towards me.  A small change but I found it much more stable and I could relax a bit more.  The wind is still noisy but the turbulence is fairly low.  I'm going to stick with this change.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: @lornejack on August 22, 2016, 01:16:49 AM
I'm sad to report that I had a tip-over and cracked my Givi Airflow. This was originally for a V-Strom (If you think the 71 pages for this thread was big, Google the 1000's of opinions for the V-Strom sceen). The Givi Airflow is a great screen, no buffeting, low noise.. only problem is my gas mileage dropped as do a lot of highway riding and this screen blocked a lot of air.
I've gone back to the stock screen with the wind at shoulder level, with the Givi it was over my head. I may break down and spend the $300 for a new Givi (it was originally an $80 Kijiji buy) or try and mount the Givi sliding screen on the stock Honda screen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on August 22, 2016, 12:16:59 PM
I purchased a CNC bracket from Germany I think it was a Buundt makes the stock wind shield completely adjustable up and down.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on August 22, 2016, 02:55:58 PM
mad max and anyone else curious:

I also had never ridden a bike with a windscreen before.  Because of helmet buffeting, I removed the windscreen braces during the 2nd stage of a hard break-in; so from 80 miles on, the bike has been without a screen.  I have no regrets.   :001:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn164/jsonder/eclipseANDjunk/54f0280c-42cb-4333-bd41-ea883375b7cf_zps760e1c2b.jpg) (http://s304.photobucket.com/user/jsonder/media/eclipseANDjunk/54f0280c-42cb-4333-bd41-ea883375b7cf_zps760e1c2b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on August 23, 2016, 07:58:52 AM
Do you have a pic of the X with AirFlow, taken from the front? I had it on my V-Strom 1000 and it was the absolute protection from air and turbulence, even if it was ugly. But then the V-Strom wasn't that beautiful, either, so I think it was fair!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: @lornejack on August 24, 2016, 03:12:30 AM
*Originally Posted by marktbike [+]
Do you have a pic of the X with AirFlow, taken from the front? I had it on my V-Strom 1000 and it was the absolute protection from air and turbulence, even if it was ugly. But then the V-Strom wasn't that beautiful, either, so I think it was fair!

It achually matched the lines OK
But it did cover up that strange upper light on the X
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on August 24, 2016, 09:18:33 AM
Thank you so much. Of course it can't be said that it's nice, but I had it on the last V-Strom 1000 and I know how effective it is...
It's food for thoughts in case of a major journey. Thanks again for the pics!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on August 24, 2016, 02:21:39 PM
No offense but although the it might be effective, it is the ugliest thing on a beautiful bike !
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on August 24, 2016, 02:38:20 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
No offense but although the it might be effective, it is the ugliest thing on a beautiful bike !
I promise I won't tell GiVi :)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: @lornejack on August 24, 2016, 02:53:48 PM
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
No offense but although the it might be effective, it is the ugliest thing on a beautiful bike !

Ha... none taken
The X is not the fastest or prettiest bike.. It's practical and comfortable. This screen fixed the noise/buffeting issue that happens with most adventure style bikes.
I spend most of my time on the other side of the screen..
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: cwjb on August 25, 2016, 03:00:21 AM
Does anyone know the height difference between the Honda tall screen and the Honda 2016 screen?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: hilldweller on August 25, 2016, 12:33:47 PM
*Originally Posted by marktbike [+]
Of course it can't be said that it's nice,

Who cares if you are enjoying a nice smooth ride.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nomad Racing on August 25, 2016, 02:30:06 PM
This subject is interesting because i find my 2015 X with the standard screen in the lower position to be perfectly comfortable.

I've played the "higher/wider screen game" on previous bikes (Triumph Tiger 1050 and BMW F800GS) and find it really difficult to get any real improvement (I'm 6' 1") without ending up with a truly hideous barn door made of perspex on the front
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on August 25, 2016, 04:24:58 PM
I am 6'2" tall and bought 1" handlebar risers so I could sit up straighter. I could not ride at highway speeds with the standard Honda wind screen. The wind blast and bugs hit me on the chest and helmet. The wind noise in my helmets made highway riding deafening and uncomfortable. So I bough a California Scientific wind screen.

(https://www.cb500x.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3790.0;attach=8135;image)

That moved the wind and bugs  from my chest to the top of my helmets. Not perfect but a lot better. There is no turbulence because of a port in the bottom of the screen that creates a quiet zone behind the wind screen. I was now able to wear my full face Shoei RF-1200 helmet and ride at highway speed. Unfortunately my Bell MAG-9 open face helmet was still too noisy. If you are 3 inches or more shorter than me, this wind screen would probably provide move the wind blast over your head and provide a clean and quiet ride.

A while ago someone posted about 3M yellow neon ear plugs. I bought 25 pair to try them and was very impressed. Now I can wear my open face helmet in complete comfort. The wind noise reduction is incredible, they are comfortable to wear, and they do not pop out like the drugstore foam rubber ones. I was able to buy a box of 200 sets for $40 (postage included) on Amazon.ca from Pro Safety. I now hand them out to riders that I meet that complain about wind noise.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: @lornejack on August 27, 2016, 02:59:47 PM
*Originally Posted by Nomad Racing [+]
This subject is interesting because i find my 2015 X with the standard screen in the lower position to be perfectly comfortable.

You are correct..  the lower position is the only answer for the stock screen
I played around with the stock screen in the high position and with multiple spacer configurations.
I've tried no screen/mini-screen.
The stock screen in low position leaves my head in clean air and my body mostly protected- air flow hits me at shoulder level.. Perfect for city and back road riding... But at elevated highway speeds you are fighting the wind. This is why I am looking to replace my old Givi Airflow setup.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on August 27, 2016, 06:19:39 PM
There is no one answer to the windshield issue.. Way too many variables, rider height, rider inseam, rider angle, rider size, windshield height, windshield angle, windshield shape, road speed, helmet shape, helmet type etc etc.
In short what works for you MAY work for 5-10% of the others at best. So to blindly follow what works for one person is an excersise in futility. It took no windshield, a cut down wind shield and three other windshields for me to find a happy medium. Not to mention dozens of adjustments, angle and spacers. That's why there are 100's of mentions of windshields on this and other forums.
So have fun experimenting because that's the only way you will find what works for you  :305:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Garththomas on September 27, 2016, 01:48:45 AM
I just got a Puig wind shield and I think it suits the bike perfectly, the only problem I'm having and I noticed it with the stock screen is the brackets are either bent or out of adjustment but I dont have the energy to remove the fairing to get at them right now.
The new screen is in the high position, I can ride with the visor on my helmet one click from fully open and no wind in the eyes. I'm 5'-7" with a 29" inseam. It cost $188.08 Canadian to my door.
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s483/Garth58/IMG_06204609047_zpsbpr9qs4j.jpg)
(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1054.photobucket.com/albums/s483/Garth58/IMG_0624_zps1fb19c9f.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on September 28, 2016, 11:49:04 PM
For me the Givi Screen works best with a spacer on the bottom 2 mounting screws. I had to get longer screws and had to adjust the mounting brackets which were easy to bend while on the bike. I'm 5'6" tall and can ride with my helmet visor open all the way. (https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:c8.staticflickr.com/8/7514/29910548071_bab62b8176_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Mz6nSF)getPart (https://flic.kr/p/Mz6nSF) by David Aldrich (https://www.flickr.com/photos/120118523@N04/), on Flickr (https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:c2.staticflickr.com/9/8372/29910548201_2d98cc5c9e_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Mz6nUV)getPart-3 (https://flic.kr/p/Mz6nUV) by David Aldrich (https://www.flickr.com/photos/120118523@N04/), on Flickr (https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:c4.staticflickr.com/6/5265/29910548611_f0b2fd1421_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Mz6o2Z)getPart-2 (https://flic.kr/p/Mz6o2Z) by David Aldrich (https://www.flickr.com/photos/120118523@N04/), on Flickr (https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:c6.staticflickr.com/6/5311/29367144173_a685149cee_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LK5hPX)getPart-1 (https://flic.kr/p/LK5hPX) by David Aldrich (https://www.flickr.com/photos/120118523@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Wouken on October 02, 2016, 12:26:54 PM
Hi, i posted earlyer. With all the tups and tricks marked here. I found that for me this works. I have a givi tall screen, on the low setting, with rubber spacers for air flow. I added a givi universal windscreen spoiler. I'm 5'8". I can drive with my visor up at a speed of 90km/h. No big wind noise. Settting and finding the perfect windscreen option will take time and is verry personal. So i hope my solution will help you find yours.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mister Paul on October 02, 2016, 01:42:33 PM
*Originally Posted by Wouken [+]
Hi, i posted earlyer. With all the tups and tricks marked here. I found that for me this works. I have a givi tall screen, on the low setting, with rubber spacers for air flow. I added a givi universal windscreen spoiler. I'm 5'8". I can drive with my visor up at a speed of 90km/h. No big wind noise. Settting and finding the perfect windscreen option will take time and is verry personal. So i hope my solution will help you find yours.

Does the metal part of  the spoiler not block  your field of vision?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Wouken on October 02, 2016, 03:37:47 PM
No it is not bothering my field of view. I still have a great view on the roads. If you put your windscreen higer youbhave the edge of it in your field of view. I find that more iritating than the small metal suport. So its al what you prefer.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Krisperr on October 09, 2016, 08:20:33 PM
Has anyone tried the newer 2016 screen on a > 2015 with a Wunderlich added? I finally took my x on the highway today and figured out what this wind issue everyone has been having is. :008:

I'm thinking the Wunderlich would provide the most improvement as it is adjustable, I just wasn't sure whether to try it with the 2016 shield or the 2015 tall or short one.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on October 09, 2016, 08:43:45 PM
*Originally Posted by Krisperr [+]
Has anyone tried the newer 2016 screen on a > 2015 with a Wunderlich added? I finally took my x on the highway today and figured out what this wind issue everyone has been having is. :008:

I'm thinking the Wunderlich would provide the most improvement as it is adjustable, I just wasn't sure whether to try it with the 2016 shield or the 2015 tall or short one.
Don't bother with the old tall screen get the 2016. I have the Bruudt adjustable bracket with a 2016 screen on a 2014,  works great for me. Results may be different for others. Have to find the sweet spot.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Krisperr on October 09, 2016, 10:31:34 PM
I'd prefer to avoid any adapters, and the main reason I said the older tall screen is cause I work at Honda and we have one I can take for about $20, and it'll fit in the lower position with my barkbusters without much modding. As far as I've seen I'd have to space out the newer one about an inch.

If the newer one is really that much of an improvement I may have to go with that I guess, I'll just cut the bottom piece off cause it looks awful on older x's haha. The main thing here though is the Wunderlich, it seems like it helped a ton with people my height (6'0 32" inseam) by directing the airflow at the top of the screen properly. But the newer winshield is taller and that may effect the results.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Krisperr on October 14, 2016, 02:43:29 AM
Just threw on the 2016 windshield without any issues whatsoever. Maybe it was a little tighter fit than the 2015 but it was the first time I've taken it off so I wouldn't know.

Went on the highway for a quick rip and immediately noticed a difference, the wind is no longer trying to rip my helmet off my head :D

I still think a wunderlisch or maybe the givi deflector is needed for when I go on a trip, so I'll pick one up over the winter.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com/2CzOk1t.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Alanp on October 20, 2016, 04:28:40 AM
*Originally Posted by @lornejack [+]
It achually matched the lines OK
But it did cover up that strange upper light on the X

@lornejack,
Where did you get a Givi Airflow for the 500x?  I don't see where Givi makes an airflow screen for the bike.  They make a single piece screen only that I can find.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on October 20, 2016, 08:15:53 AM
*Originally Posted by Alanp [+]
@lornejack,
Where did you get a Givi Airflow for the 500x?  I don't see where Givi makes an airflow screen for the bike.  They make a single piece screen only that I can find.

That's a 2016 OEM windscreen Krisperr has. I had one and it was only slightly better than the 2013-2015 screens.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: dusty500 on October 20, 2016, 10:52:48 AM
Have you tried the simple mod suggested elsewhere on the site! Try adding some 1/4 inch rubber tap washers to the bottom fixings. This tips the top of the screen slightly towards you making for "cleaner" air. I'm only 5'5 and found it made quite a difference. It still hits my helmet but it's less turbulent!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Alanp on October 20, 2016, 03:22:12 PM
*Originally Posted by Dave1899 [+]
That's a 2016 OEM windscreen Krisperr has. I had one and it was only slightly better than the 2013-2015 screens.

I am referring to the windshield that @lornejack posted photos of a couple of pages back.  It is a Givi Airflow, or at least looks exactly like one I had one on a vStrom.  Anyway, it was the best windshield I have ever sat behind, but I can't find where they make one for the 500x.  So I am wondering where @lornejack got his or how he cobbled it?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Scorpionnc on October 21, 2016, 09:04:44 AM
*Originally Posted by @lornejack [+]
I'm sad to report that I had a tip-over and cracked my Givi Airflow. This was originally for a V-Strom...

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Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Alanp on October 21, 2016, 10:40:56 PM
*Originally Posted by Scorpionnc [+]
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Thank you.  I see now that he cobbled it from vStrom.  Too bad Givi don't have one for the 500x.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mister Paul on October 22, 2016, 08:45:58 PM
*Originally Posted by Knoxychap82 [+]
Good afternoon chaps!

I have just installed a palmer products bracket with my givi screen, best money I've ever spent!!

I'm 5`11 (182 cm) 32 in inseam, and could not make any screen work for me with many "bright ideas"

This palmer bracket is strikingly similar to the madstad, but at half the price. I couldn't be happier 😊

I'll try pop some photos up for you guys!

Hi. Is this still working for you? How do you have the bracket set up?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on October 25, 2016, 12:11:32 PM
I tried the 2016 OEM Honda CB 500X screen in the highest position (I'm 5'8") and it didn't help much and the buffeting moved to the forehead area I sold to someone on this forum. I bought a Buundt bracket which allows much more adjustment with stock windshield much better but doing 2,300 miles going to Daytona and back mostly freeway at speeds up to 82 mph I find this set up lacking as well.

I just ordered the Mastad windshield set up. Comes with 60 day buy back (unheard of so they must have confidence in this product). Adjustable up/down and tilts in and out. Within a day of installing I'll know if it works for me and will report to the forum my findings.

I know running for hours and hours on end isn't the forte of this bike but with the changed gearing (15/39), Corbin seat, hand guards etc. it is a decent middleweight for small money.

Let you guys know my thoughts after installation this weekend.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mel111 on October 25, 2016, 04:07:47 PM
Got my CBX May this year, mark 1, on a 16 plate. Got the Madstad before I even got the bike home. Best screen I have ever had on a sit up straight bike, the most recent being a Tiger885i, GS1200adv, Tiger1050, Tiger 800, Tiger 955i .Ride Safe Mel
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on October 25, 2016, 04:46:27 PM
With 75 pages of windshield woes, just wondering if anyone has tried making one for themselves? Even though I don't really mind my stock '14 screen I may give it a try over the winter. I just finished making one for one of my other bikes and its pretty easy. The hard part would be getting a decent design that does what you want it to.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: VDZ on October 25, 2016, 05:20:36 PM
Deacon,
I was considering it, but then I read Cal-Sci's website where they had an in depth paper on the physics they put into their product involving wind tunnel testing that convinced me if I got it right it would probably be luck. Also had some data there on materials I think. I decided I'll maybe take a crack at tailoring a seat to my needs instead. One of the first things I did was stuff the seat with 3" more foam, it was good on my hips and knees, but probably didn't do me any favours elevating my head further above the screen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on October 26, 2016, 01:15:32 AM
*Originally Posted by HerrDeacon [+]
With 75 pages of windshield woes, just wondering if anyone has tried making one for themselves?

I chopped and plasticoted an original. Works way better than the stock height but too many bugs ! I'm sticking with my bent brackets and 2016 windshield on my 2014!


(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/ws-1.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/1871c2fa9833afec0.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on October 26, 2016, 01:16:53 AM
 :124:

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/52d821a7619a3f238.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/4-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Harry on October 26, 2016, 08:28:04 AM
*Originally Posted by HerrDeacon [+]
With 75 pages of windshield woes, just wondering if anyone has tried making one for themselves? Even though I don't really mind my stock '14 screen I may give it a try over the winter. I just finished making one for one of my other bikes and its pretty easy. The hard part would be getting a decent design that does what you want it to.

I've planned to make one based on a Cal Sci. the planning and templates being key. I'm riding a '14 so the bottom of the screen is modeled on the stock screen, the top section and air vent based on Cal-Sci.
I plan to make a curved template from thin board so I can concentrate when heating and bending 3mm polycarbonate.
all good fun... now it just needs time to do it and with it now being summer it might have to wait.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on October 26, 2016, 05:27:47 PM
*Originally Posted by Harry [+]
I've planned to make one based on a Cal Sci. I'm riding a '14 so the bottom of the screen is modeled on the stock screen, the top section and air vent based on Cal-Sci.

I tried the Brundt brackets to raise my CalSci screen up a couple of inches. I am 6'2" and the wind hits the top of my helmet. I thought by raising the windscreen I could take advantage of the quiet zone behind it.

Unfortunately the brackets move the windscreen away from the bike a bit which allowed more airflow under the bottom of the screen. But what was worse they also raised the port on the bottom of the screen up and allowed a direct blast of air into my torso. Although there was slightly less wind blast on the top of my helmet in the raised position, all the other air flow made the ride noisier, colder and more uncomfortable. There was also a soft drumming noise that was not there without the brackets.

I believe because we sit upright and a distance from any windscreen, we are too far away to enjoy the quiet zone that most produce. I know if I lean forward, I can eliminate the wind blast entirely. But that is awkward and hard on the back.

I tried rubber washers over the top mounting screws hoping to push the top of the screen forward and direct the air over my head. But that created a drumming turbulence. I assume that is the reason most windscreens are slanted back.

Of the things I have tried, I found my CalSci and 3M Yellow Neon ear plugs are the best solution so far. I can ride with either my open face or full face helmet with out being bothered by the wind noise. The windscreen cuts the wind and does not create any turbulence.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: wardie on November 09, 2016, 02:44:38 AM
 I've tried the stock windshield canted out with spacers that proved no good. Then I went with the Bruundt brackets and it was much better but still lacked the ability to push the air turbulence above my helmet at higher speeds above 70 mph. Finally took the plunge and bought the Madstad windshield for my bike.My Madstad windshield came within 5 days of ordering it. The packaging was awesome nothing except a truck running over the box could hurt the windshield it was that well packed. Easy installation and loads of adjustability. Instructions said to set the top of the windshield to your chin area and cant it at a 60 degree angle. They provide an angle gauge to help with tipping/canting the windshield.

I did the initial testing and adjusting on a long country road little or no traffic so I could adjust while riding. The instructions specifically state do not do this and I'll give the same warning.

The windshield has an adjustment knob on the inside portion of each bracket. While riding I loosened the knobs and lightly pushed the windshield out until I could hear and feel the air turbulence decrease. Once I reached that point I tightened down the knobs.

Once you find the sweet spot you're set. Out of curiosity I tried moving the shield up and tipping both forward and backward. All this movement yielded negative results on air flow when compared the  settings that I initially determined were optimal.

The Madstad wasn't the least expensive set up but it was the one that clearly worked the best.

If you're tired of buying shields that you can't send back only to find there's a problem then order the Madstad. It has a 60 day money back guarantee so if it doesn't work for you send it back...but I'm betting you'll keep it.

Wardie

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Harry on November 20, 2016, 03:33:20 AM
I've been reading this thread for a long time looking specifically at how a 2016 screen is fitted to a 2014 bike and the settings used.
Thank you to everyone commenting.
So I've built my own mounting brackets. Making them adjustable for height, tilt and offset.

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/20161120_115809.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/20161120_115943.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/20161120_115843.jpg)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/20161120_115826.jpg)

I'm 5'10" and riding yesterday @ 120km/hr was a real pleasure, zero buffeting on the helmet.
 :305:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: HerrDeacon on November 20, 2016, 09:58:26 AM
Very cool Harry, nicely done. I've been planning on making something similar once I have my bike put away for the winter.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Knoxychap82 on November 22, 2016, 03:29:12 AM
*Originally Posted by Mister Paul [+]
Hi. Is this still working for you? How do you have the bracket set up?

Hi Mister Paul, sorry for the late reply, found it by accident! I had it set on its lowest setting, tilted all the way back towards me, lowest setting on the bike too. Worked very well, although still not as good as what I have gone and done now...

I got the BRUUDT bracket with a 2016 OEM screen, mounted on the low position on the bike, heres the tricky bit, if I have the screen adjusted up to its full height, there is a lot of wind noise, however, if I slouch down about 2 inches all I can hear is the exhaust note!!  on the low position, there is just clean full wind, which is nice and smooth, although if I do a 9 hour ride it might be a bit hard on my neck, and im a bit of a girl haha!

have been looking into a wunderlich doohickie as a way to extend the top of the screen just a bit to get that nice calm pocket when the screen is adjusted to full height.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Hap on February 25, 2017, 12:41:29 PM
Had a GIVI was OK
Bought an Used Madstad to check it out
I like it better.
Have the side deflectors but have not put them on the bike.
Any advice on those side deflectors that mount to the bike ?
Hap
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mel111 on February 25, 2017, 01:43:32 PM
For me they made a big difference with body buffeting, Easy fit so worth a try?. Regards Mel 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on February 25, 2017, 06:00:53 PM
I finally bought the RRP 498 Screen spacers. They have improved my Givi windscreen. I can ride with my Helmet visor up and no buffeting. The stainless-steel spacers are 15mm long and are supplied with M5x35 BZP screws.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: michvin on February 25, 2017, 08:24:58 PM
In my Shoei RF-1100 buffeting was terrible. Changed the stock screen to some aftermarket option that some people swear by - didn't work: buffeting was still there. Then changed that to GIVI screen on spacers, which improved things, but not ideal. Got GIVI wind deflector, the one that mounts to the top of the windshield.
Today, thanks to unusually warm weather was able to go for a ride. Buffeting is completely gone! I don't need earplugs anymore and can ride with open visor at 75 mph!
So this problem solved, but another appeared (not major, guess I'll get used to it, if no other solution is available): the deflector's bracket is right in my line of sight, and that is annoying.
So the question is: did anybody try the GIVI deflector with stock windshield? I still have it and will try that at first opportunity, but maybe someone did that already?

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: DOM on February 25, 2017, 08:39:24 PM
On the NC750X site, a forum member has collated inside leg length, height and screen preference with comments, all produced on a spread sheet. Whilst not perfect, as we all have differing upper body lengths, it does give a good indication for what might work best for certaiun people. I reckon there is a PHD in this subject and if someone did it, it would be interesting to find out who the examiners might be. I suspect the after market screen makers would not like it.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mikilambastein on February 26, 2017, 07:30:06 PM
*Originally Posted by DOM [+]
On the NC750X site, a forum member has collated inside leg length, height and screen preference with comments, all produced on a spread sheet. Whilst not perfect, as we all have differing upper body lengths, it does give a good indication for what might work best for certaiun people. I reckon there is a PHD in this subject and if someone did it, it would be interesting to find out who the examiners might be. I suspect the after market screen makers would not like it.


Do you have a link Dom?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: DOM on February 26, 2017, 09:19:06 PM
Hi,
I do, however you need to be a member to down load it. I am a member but still couldn't do it and the spread sheet was sent to me. Pm me with you e mail address and I will send it to you. It is useful but not outstanding however it does show what can be done with a bit of joined up thinking.
The CB500X seems a lot more tolerant regarding windscreens, the NC750X seems to have lots of controversy.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ngling on February 26, 2017, 11:59:00 PM
Windshields are a personal thing and you will probably get different views on the same windshield from different people. Also depends upon what your expectations are. Everyone has a different tolerance level. Only real way to find out is to test it yourself. The length of this thread shows you how varied opinion is.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on March 03, 2017, 09:29:59 PM
Sorry to keep making this point, but, one option is to remove the windscreen and support brackets.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Dave1899 on March 03, 2017, 11:14:18 PM
*Originally Posted by jsonder [+]
Sorry to keep making this point, but, one option is to remove the windscreen and support brackets.
You know how to tell a happy Motorcyclist? By the bugs in his teeth...LOL  :156:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Erik on April 02, 2017, 12:34:00 PM
What a disappointment about the 2016 Windshield! I have a model 2013 and the buffering above 95 km/h started to be annoying. Reading all responses I saw, that there is no universal solution with the windshield, but I still believe, that at least some improvement it would be.

First, I installed it at the upper position and it was really some less turbulence, but the SOUND of wind already at 55 km/h is louder than before at speeds 120 km/h. At 90 km/h was almost unbearable and instead enjoying the ride I just waited, when the drive will end. Due to half an hour ride, I had for the next 2-3 days pain in my ears  :087: :087: :087:!

At the lower position of the windscreen it was a bit better about the sound of wind, but there was buffering at the top of the helmet (I am 180 cm and have Shoei GT Air helmet), which previously did not exist (at 2013 windscreen I got blast into my chest). I do not know, if I am going to play with washers, and other advices, I read here…

My experience - if you want  to change your ride into hell, just put the 2016 windshield on your bike…

Erik
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Britchris on April 02, 2017, 04:03:37 PM
I have the 2016 screen on my 2013.
I added the RR "standoff"spacers and bolts.
I still got buffeting at the top of my helmet.
I took the OEM mirrors off and replaced them with bar ends.
(I also have Givi hand guards fitted)
The buffeting is still there but the overall wind blast seems much reduced without the OEM mirrors.
(Also, I can see directly behind me more easily as the mirrors are further out)
A bit "left field" but it works for me.
YMMV
Chris C
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: michvin on April 03, 2017, 02:36:43 PM
After spending significant money (two windshields, one deflector) I think I am ready to give up on the CB. Tried everything suggested here at no avail. I never experienced anything like that on the Ninja I had before and seriously considering selling the bike. Very sad, that such a wonderful bike has to go, but I'm getting headaches after half an hour on it :(
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on April 03, 2017, 04:29:31 PM
*Originally Posted by michvin [+]
After spending significant money (two windshields, one deflector) I think I am ready to give up on the CB. Tried everything suggested here at no avail. I never experienced anything like that on the Ninja I had before and seriously considering selling the bike. Very sad, that such a wonderful bike has to go, but I'm getting headaches after half an hour on it :(

Try removing the windscreen and riding with just the braces for a bit.  If you are like me, that was the fix that I needed.  Removal of the braces is discussed earlier in this thread (reply 55).
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: michvin on April 03, 2017, 05:20:46 PM
*Originally Posted by jsonder [+]
Try removing the windscreen and riding with just the braces for a bit.  If you are like me, that was the fix that I needed.  Removal of the braces is discussed earlier in this thread (reply 55).
I tried that. :(
I now suspect that the airflow that comes from the front fork opening upwards is to blame for the turbulence and buffeting. ADV style bikes have large opening in the front between the wheel and the fairing and many of these bikes suffer from buffeting issues. Interesting enough, I haven't read about any buffeting issues with cb500f.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ColoRider on April 03, 2017, 06:01:39 PM
*Originally Posted by michvin [+]
After spending significant money (two windshields, one deflector) I think I am ready to give up on the CB. Tried everything suggested here at no avail. I never experienced anything like that on the Ninja I had before and seriously considering selling the bike. Very sad, that such a wonderful bike has to go, but I'm getting headaches after half an hour on it :(

After reading your comments on the previous page about the Givi screen and deflector, you had it pretty well sorted out - except for the bracket being partly in your line of view.  What changed? 

Personally, I've owned many other comparable bikes and don't find the noise or buffeting any more a problem on the CB-X.  The stock screen seems to work quite well ('16 model) in the upper position. 

I use a Shoei Neotec helmet and ALWAYS ride with earplugs. 

Good luck!!!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ColoRider on April 03, 2017, 06:09:43 PM
*Originally Posted by Erik [+]

First, I installed it at the upper position and it was really some less turbulence, but the SOUND of wind already at 55 km/h is louder than before at speeds 120 km/h. At 90 km/h was almost unbearable and instead enjoying the ride I just waited, when the drive will end. Due to half an hour ride, I had for the next 2-3 days pain in my ears  :087: :087: :087:!


Erik

Erik,
What type of earplugs are you using? 
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on April 04, 2017, 02:41:39 AM
*Originally Posted by michvin [+]
After spending significant money (two windshields, one deflector) I think I am ready to give up on the CB. Tried everything suggested here at no avail. I never experienced anything like that on the Ninja I had before and seriously considering selling the bike. Very sad, that such a wonderful bike has to go, but I'm getting headaches after half an hour on it :(

I changed helmets and that helped a lot. The Madstad set up with the side deflectors seems to stop a lot of the buffeting.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on April 04, 2017, 03:39:57 AM
Yup, I use a modular helmet and they are less quiet than plain full face helmets, so I always use these ear plugs with my Shoei Multitech..

https://www.amazon.com/3M-OCS1137-Classic-Earplugs-Pillow/dp/B008MCU2M4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491273503&sr=8-1&keywords=ear+brand+ear+plugs (https://www.amazon.com/3M-OCS1137-Classic-Earplugs-Pillow/dp/B008MCU2M4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491273503&sr=8-1&keywords=ear+brand+ear+plugs)

{and yes, I started using those 54 years ago at work, I still like them}
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: michvin on April 04, 2017, 02:41:46 PM
*Originally Posted by ColoRider [+]
After reading your comments on the previous page about the Givi screen and deflector, you had it pretty well sorted out - except for the bracket being partly in your line of view.  What changed? 

Personally, I've owned many other comparable bikes and don't find the noise or buffeting any more a problem on the CB-X.  The stock screen seems to work quite well ('16 model) in the upper position. 

I use a Shoei Neotec helmet and ALWAYS ride with earplugs. 

Good luck!!!
I mounted the windscreen in lower position and that cleared the line of sight, but the buffeting is back..
I have Shoei rf-1100 and always wear earplugs. One thing I noticed when I tried Arai helmet at the store, is that Arai is much tighter around the neck than Shoei. I might try switching helmets, but this is a quite an expensive mod to try..
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: michvin on April 04, 2017, 02:45:36 PM
*Originally Posted by EscCtrl [+]
I changed helmets and that helped a lot. The Madstad set up with the side deflectors seems to stop a lot of the buffeting.
Which helmet to which, if you don't mind saying?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: michvin on April 04, 2017, 02:47:51 PM
*Originally Posted by jsonder [+]
Yup, I use a modular helmet and they are less quiet than plain full face helmets, so I always use these ear plugs with my Shoei Multitech..

https://www.amazon.com/3M-OCS1137-Classic-Earplugs-Pillow/dp/B008MCU2M4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491273503&sr=8-1&keywords=ear+brand+ear+plugs (https://www.amazon.com/3M-OCS1137-Classic-Earplugs-Pillow/dp/B008MCU2M4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491273503&sr=8-1&keywords=ear+brand+ear+plugs)

{and yes, I started using those 54 years ago at work, I still like them}
I use these (https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/nonoise-motorsport-noise-filter-ear-protection)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on April 04, 2017, 03:06:31 PM
*Originally Posted by michvin [+]
Which helmet to which, if you don't mind saying?

AFX FX-140 to a Bilt Apollo
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Erik on April 04, 2017, 04:37:41 PM
*Originally Posted by ColoRider [+]
Erik,
What type of earplugs are you using? 
I don't use the earplugs - I want to hear the bike and a traffic. With 2013 stock windshield I don't have any problem with the sound, but with 2016 windshield is like to be standing near 1000 W speaker...

Erik
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ColoRider on April 04, 2017, 05:21:08 PM
*Originally Posted by Erik [+]
I don't use the earplugs - I want to hear the bike and a traffic. With 2013 stock windshield I don't have any problem with the sound, but with 2016 windshield is like to be standing near 1000 W speaker...

Erik

Don't really want to turn a windscreen thread into a earplug discussion, but everyone REALLY should wear ear protection while riding.   It's not a question of IF you will damage your hearing by going without - it's WHEN.  It will happen quicker than you think.  Full face helmets are actually worse than open face for wind noise. 

Now, back to windscreens!!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Erik on April 04, 2017, 08:03:50 PM
*Originally Posted by ColoRider [+]
Don't really want to turn a windscreen thread into a earplug discussion, but everyone REALLY should wear ear protection while riding.   It's not a question of IF you will damage your hearing by going without - it's WHEN.  It will happen quicker than you think.  Full face helmets are actually worse than open face for wind noise. 

Now, back to windscreens!!

@ColoRider, thanks for the advice and warning, but I believe that I wouldn't feel comfortable and safe not to hear, what is happening around me - also the wind, but within normal limits. Earplug discussion is also a part of windscreen discussion or better say, windscreen problem...

Erik
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ColoRider on April 04, 2017, 08:25:52 PM
Erik,
Here is a pretty good read.  It takes less than 5 minutes to read.

https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/avoiding-hearing-loss

For me, my hearing damage and loss started when I was in the Navy in my late teens and early 20's.  Most of my early riding career was with open face helmets which are actually better for wind noise.  I switched over to full face helmets in the mid-eighties.  It was still several years after that before I started wearing earplugs.  But by then the damage was done.  Besides bilateral hearing loss, I also have moderate to severe tinnitus.  Neither can be reveresed.

With proper hearing protection, riding is actually more pleasant and less tiring.  I have multiple "1000 miles in 24 hour" rides under my belt and none of them would have been possible had I not been wearing ear protection.

Just my .02

Good luck!

Rod
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Erik on April 04, 2017, 09:05:24 PM
Thx, Rod, I read the article and responses,..., as a new rider (returnee after 25 years) I never think about it and now I'm a bit worried - I'll buy one of this...

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/nonoise-motorsport-noise-filter-ear-protection

and see how it feels. I just wonder, how many things there are, which I did't think about, but it should be for granted ...

Erik
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ColoRider on April 04, 2017, 10:25:30 PM
Don't be discouraged if the first plugs you try are uncomfortable and/or difficult to insert.  You may have to experiment a bit, but once you find the right ones, you won't be disappointed. 

Personally, I prefer the disposable foam type and presently using the 3M E-A-Rsoft Yellow Neon Blasts. 

Good luck!!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: crisb on April 04, 2017, 10:52:55 PM
*Originally Posted by ColoRider [+]
With proper hearing protection, riding is actually more pleasant and less tiring.

This is so true, especially at country road speeds, that I'd wear them even without the ear health benefits.

The only downside (minor & well worth it) is it's one more thing to do when gearing up. I would like Iron Man style robotic riding gear that leaps up and clamps itself to me as I'm walking towards the bike.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on April 05, 2017, 04:21:08 AM
*Originally Posted by ColoRider [+]
Don't be discouraged if the first plugs you try are uncomfortable and/or difficult to insert.  You may have to experiment a bit, but once you find the right ones, you won't be disappointed. 

Personally, I prefer the disposable foam type and presently using the 3M E-A-Rsoft Yellow Neon Blasts. 

Good luck!!

I spent a year trying all sorts of ear plugs. Like you, once I tried the 3M E-A-Rsoft Yellow Neons I stayed with them. They are inexpensive, easy to insert, comfortable, stay put, and block out a lot of noise. I didn't buy the company, but I did buy 200 sets of these. I always carry spares. When a biker asks me about them, I give them a pair to try. Pass the word!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Erik on April 05, 2017, 06:32:58 AM
Thanks guys ...

Erik
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: marktbike on April 05, 2017, 10:37:30 AM
Same thing here. I prefer to wear plugs and keep the screen low, not to be bothered by turbulences. The ride is comfortable and the noise is blocked out. I've chosen the silicone ones. Of course it's a bit of a PITA to put them on and take them off, but I'm really afraid of the hearing damage that can be suffered if you don't protect your ears enough. And I've been too much of an optimist over 1 million km...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on April 05, 2017, 04:17:03 PM
*Originally Posted by Nortoon [+]
I spent a year trying all sorts of ear plugs. Like you, once I tried the 3M E-A-Rsoft Yellow Neons I stayed with them. They are inexpensive, easy to insert, comfortable, stay put, and block out a lot of noise. I didn't buy the company, but I did buy 200 sets of these. I always carry spares. When a biker asks me about them, I give them a pair to try. Pass the word!

I had the link for these from Amazon in my previous post.  I agree completely, they do provide a decent (31) decibel reduction according to the test info on the 200 unit box, which shows them being more effective on higher frequency sounds.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Toppolino on April 11, 2017, 06:36:05 PM
Hi
(sorry my english is no so good.)
on my cb500x I have found this solutions and I`m very happy with it.

The original small windscreen, then assemled the BRUUDT windshield adjuster (from Bruudt ) in the highest Position (in the same time is gives a little space-like a spacer.)



then the MRA Sport Spoiler and now is perfect in any condition, no more buffering in the helmet (shoei gt air).  :152:
I`m 5.7 ft

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: dvorjan on April 12, 2017, 07:38:07 PM
I also fitted the Bruudt windscreen adjuster yesterday on my 2014 CBX and made a short ride. I set it on the lowest position (I'm 163 cm short).

It works perfectly, much much lower noise level...   :152:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MeavyHetal on April 12, 2017, 08:38:19 PM
Hello, just thought I'd ask here and see if anyone can recommend me either the Givi or Puig tall screens. I'm around 5'9". Would barkbusters fit with either of these?

Thanks for any help.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on April 13, 2017, 02:28:43 PM
Ordered one of these in clear last night.  Will let you know how it works when I get it.  It's a direct replacement for the factory windscreen and will fit on the existing brackets.  Instead of adding brackets to move the factory screen up and the adding a deflector, I am trying a taller and wider windscreen.  It will look cleaner.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB500X-2016-Tall-Clear-Light-Smoke-Touring-Windshield-Windscreen-/112152228607?fits=Year%3A2016%7CMake%3AHonda%7CModel%3ACB500X&var=412272903358&hash=item1a1ccb32ff:g:OL8AAOSwOyJX7NDF&vxp=mtr

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: julman99 on April 13, 2017, 02:44:23 PM
*Originally Posted by SnowOwl [+]
Ordered one of these in clear last night.  Will let you know how it works when I get it.  It's a direct replacement for the factory windscreen and will fit on the existing brackets.  Instead of adding brackets to move the factory screen up and the adding a deflector, I am trying a taller and wider windscreen.  It will look cleaner.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB500X-2016-Tall-Clear-Light-Smoke-Touring-Windshield-Windscreen-/112152228607?fits=Year%3A2016%7CMake%3AHonda%7CModel%3ACB500X&var=412272903358&hash=item1a1ccb32ff:g:OL8AAOSwOyJX7NDF&vxp=mtr

Shape is similar to the Givi one, but it has the holes to prevent a vacuum forming behind the windscreen, maybe that prevents the terrible buffeting that happens if you use the Givi windscreen without the bruudt or other kind of spacer .
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MeavyHetal on April 13, 2017, 02:50:03 PM
I'm tempted by one of those. I wonder if the 16 screens fit the older model, mine is a 15..
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: julman99 on April 13, 2017, 02:56:50 PM
*Originally Posted by MeavyHetal [+]
I'm tempted by one of those. I wonder if the 16 screens fit the older model, mine is a 15..

16 screens fit older models, I have a 15 and used the 16 stock screen for a while. In my case I added some plastic spacers or otherwise the lower tip of the screen would contact the plastic fairing of the bike, but aside from that it looked beautiful.

IMO the givi+bruudt combination (what I use now) looks way worse than the stock 16 screen, but once you ride the bike and feel absolutely zero buffeting you can never go back
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MeavyHetal on April 21, 2017, 08:26:33 AM
Thanks for that julman, only just saw your reply. My local dealer has a tall screen for the '15 model in stock so will have to take a look. I wonder if it's the same screen as for the latest models.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on April 21, 2017, 01:42:06 PM
Just got the touring screen in yesterday and mounted it in the high position last night.  It is raining here, a lot, so won't get to try it out until Sunday.  Will probably make some brackets to adjust the height and angle after I try it in the current position.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MeavyHetal on April 21, 2017, 01:46:33 PM
Is that the Honda screen?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on April 21, 2017, 01:55:36 PM
No, it's a Taiwanese third party knockoff of the Givi screen.  It only took a week for it to ship from Taiwan to Midwest USA.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB500X-2016-Tall-Clear-Light-Smoke-Touring-Windshield-Windscreen-/112152228607?fits=Year%3A2016%7CMake%3AHonda%7CModel%3ACB500X&var=412272903358&hash=item1a1ccb32ff:g:OL8AAOSwOyJX7NDF&vxp=mtr

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on April 22, 2017, 12:30:35 AM
Bought and sold that one within a week - buffeting worse then the stock 2014 screen - anyway that was about a year ago before the factory 2016 screen was available - info about this screen has been posted before in this thread. Not a recommendation for me.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on April 22, 2017, 12:31:54 AM
*Originally Posted by MeavyHetal [+]
I'm tempted by one of those. I wonder if the 16 screens fit the older model, mine is a 15..
Please read the thread. Plenty on info on the 2016 screen and fitment right in this thread.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on April 23, 2017, 07:25:05 PM
Finally got out to test the new windscreen.  What a difference over the stock 2016 unit.  I can now hear the engine and ride with the face shield open all the way up to 50 mph.  Before I could only hear the bike and ride open up to about 35 mph.  There is still some buffeting starting at about 60 mph.  I installed rubber washers on the lower mount points to space it out about 3/8" and give it more rake angle.  This improved the buffeting over 60 mph but it's still there.  Next I will make some brackets to allow me to adjust the height and angle more.  I'm thinking about 2" higher will likely fix the buffeting and maybe a little more angle.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on April 23, 2017, 08:01:14 PM
*Originally Posted by SnowOwl [+]
Next I will make some brackets to allow me to adjust the height and angle more.  I'm thinking about 2" higher will likely fix the buffeting and maybe a little more angle.

Bruudt brackets will raise the screen about 2 inches. If the new screen has ports like the Honda screen, in the raised position the wind will clear the dash and hit you in the chest. That's what happened with my California Scientific wind screen.

Palmer brackets allow the screen to be raised and angled. Not the prettiest accessory, but functional.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on April 23, 2017, 08:11:46 PM
Thanks for the info.  I have looked at both of those.  I think I can make my own for next to no $$$.  If my idea doesn't work out I can always buy some.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on April 23, 2017, 09:12:57 PM
Oldmopars made his own brackets.

Have a look at his thread on how they were done.
https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,4190.0.html (https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,4190.0.html)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on April 29, 2017, 07:26:00 PM
Ok, here is my go at raising the windscreen.  I like to design very simple and inexpensive solutions.  My primary need is to raise the windscreen.  Angling it can be done easily at a later time if needed.  All the brackets I have seen from manufacturers and home made are placed between the OEM brackets and the windscreen.  I opted to put brackets between the two parts of the OEM brackets.

After looking over the metal stock at the local big box hardware store I decided on aluminum angle 1/16" x 1/2" x 3/4".  A 4 foot length cost about $6.  From this I cut 2 lengths 8" long and drilled 1/4" holes every 2cm along the wider side.  There are 10 holes in all.  To attach them I used 4 sets of stainless 6mm bolts, washers, lock washers and nuts.  Those were about $8.  So my total expense was $14.

In the pictures below, the aftermarket touring windscreen is mounted 8cm above the high position of the OEM brackets.  I can go up as much as another 8cm.  In this position I get a fairly quiet air pocket from just below my chin to about the top of the helmet.  It works very well for me.  In the near future I will put the stock windscreen on it and play with height settings to see what it will do.  What little turbulence I get is coming from the air flow up around the headstock.

Once I'm done experimenting I will cut the brackets to length, round the corners and paint them black.

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: mad max on May 04, 2017, 09:04:34 PM
I've posted before about how unhappy I was with the 2016 stock screen.. I have tried riding without and with a much shorter mockup made of sheet metal and it was great. after some deliberation I just cut the original down as much as I dared without completely ruining the looks. As the 2016 seems to be useless for many, I can only recommend it :)

Airflow around the head is now almost completely unaffected and feels pretty much like a naked bike. Can post a picture if anyone's interested in how it looks.

Now I just need a very tall solution for long tours and cold days.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: IoanaIsOut on May 10, 2017, 10:26:33 AM
Hello,

I'm 165cm (5'4") tall and I had pretty much the same problems as you.
Initially I went for a Puig windshield, but the buffeting was quite bad on higher speeds, plus I couldn't really ride with my visor open.  After reading some stuff here, I bought some spacers - didn't really work for me. From pictures, Givi didn't seem so much bigger or too different shaped than Puig, so I decided to try the Bruudt brackets. Yesterday I mounted them, initially I put the windshield on high position and rode around. A little bit drafty, but no buffeting for this girl anymore. On medium high position, it's actually pretty good, I can ride with my visor open without any problems. I'm pretty much relieved that this helped me, because that wasn't really enjoyable.
I attached one picture with the brackets mounted and another one with the bike next to my partner's Vstrom. And, yeah, my windshield it's massive now.  :001:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: AJC500 on May 10, 2017, 03:53:13 PM
I'm a bit surprised reading some of this subject - Admittedly I'm coming from a naked bike, but the standard screen (2017) seems great to me!!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on May 10, 2017, 08:40:59 PM
How comfortable you are with wind blast and noise depends on many factors: what you are use to, how short you are, where you ride, how you ride, what windscreen you are using, what helmet you wear, whether or not you use ear plugs, etc.

There is no one-size-fits-all solution. That is why this thread is 81 pages long. However there has been a lot of good information shared to help a person decide what might work for them.

It took me a year to sort out which windscreen was most suitable for me because I am 6'2' tall. During that year I also searched until I found comfortable and quiet ear plugs. It's not a perfect solution. But I can now ride comfortably with either my open face or full face helmet.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Ponzan on July 05, 2017, 02:10:16 AM
I'm 1.80 mts or 5'9'' and was experiencing very annoying turbulence/buffeting noises with the factory windshield. That mostly disappeared or went almost to none with the Puig touring windshield at the high position.  Just a regular, unavoidable and acceptable wind noise. Also now I can ride in the city with the visor open. Very pleased here.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Ponzan on July 05, 2017, 05:05:20 AM
forgot to add; got no conflicts between BarkBuster handlebars  and the Puig touring
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Harry999 on July 30, 2017, 09:20:11 PM
Hi guys,  :148:
I'm in need of a bit of help please.

I'm just about to order the new Puig touring windscreen with the additional wind deflector installed, anybody out there got any feedback for me please?

I have read nearly all the posts relating to after market windscreens and still no idea what's best

Currently I'm commuting around 150 miles a day speeds upto 80mph on A, B roads and some motorways. I'm just being hammered by the wind, also I cant hear myself think at time too.

#help

Kind regards

Clive.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on July 30, 2017, 11:14:56 PM
*Originally Posted by Harry999 [+]
Hi guys,  :148:
I'm in need of a bit of help please.

I'm just about to order the new Puig touring windscreen with the additional wind deflector installed, anybody out there got any feedback for me please?

I have read nearly all the posts relating to after market windscreens and still no idea what's best

Currently I'm commuting around 150 miles a day speeds upto 80mph on A, B roads and some motorways. I'm just being hammered by the wind, also I cant hear myself think at time too.

#help

Kind regards

Clive.

A lot of us have experimented to find out what works for us. I have tried the OE small screen that came on my bike in the low and high position with no luck. I bought a member's 118bikes Honda screen which is just a very dark Givi screen. It was better, not great. I have tried it in the upper and lower position. I have spaced it out about 1/2 inch in high and low position. Nothing worked for me. I rode a couple others CB-X. One with the Puig and one a Madstad set up with a 22-inch screen. The Madstad was by far the best. It all seems to come down to where your head is in the air stream and what comfort level you're expecting to get. I knew I'd never get it as smooth or quiet as my big cruiser's windshield.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on July 30, 2017, 11:58:35 PM
*Originally Posted by Harry999 [+]
I'm just being hammered by the wind, also I cant hear myself think at time too.

#help

Kind regards

Clive.

Are you wearing ear plugs?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Harry999 on July 31, 2017, 10:38:11 PM
Good evening fellow CB500x owners.

I've just ordered the Puig screen from France, arriving mid August hopefully, until then I will just have to be battered by the English climate,

I'm wearing personally moulded ear plugs at a cost of £75 however these are over 15 years old :745: but still fit well.

I will update this thread once new screen is installed. hope its worth the money :138:

Ride safely

Harry
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Bueno58 on August 02, 2017, 06:16:25 PM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
I'm a bit surprised reading some of this subject - Admittedly I'm coming from a naked bike, but the standard screen (2017) seems great to me!!

Same here on a 2017.  I'm 6' with no windshield problems.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: slowrider on August 20, 2017, 07:23:23 PM
I am 5' 11" and just driven London to Helsinki.  Now on the way back.   When I get home the first thing I am going to do is change the screen.    I have a  Schuberth C3 Pro and above 60 I can not hear the music from the inbuilt sound system so I have it turned off.  I get so much bufferting my ears ring even with ear plugs.   If I stand up when riding the silence is wonderful.   

I have been riding for 6+ hours a day and it's painful.   



Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on August 20, 2017, 09:34:56 PM
I am 5" 6" but long waisted (28" inseam).

I was satisfied with the non-turbulence when I removed the windscreen, so I removed the windscreen brackets.

They are welded to the headlight cage.  First photo is after the hacksaw and black primer:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com/PQlTJmo.jpg)

The 2nd photo is everything put back together:

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i.imgur.com/tKpuNs0.jpg)

I doubt that many folks will do this, but, it works for me.   :007:

PS If anyone wants to do this, be sure to tape over the forks to keep shavings from getting in there.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Trailrunner on August 21, 2017, 02:55:07 PM
I fixed it! So excited to share this with everyone it still has to be powdered coated. But I spent way to much time but it has made a huge improvement in wind noise huge I can hear my music, and I do get some air on my chest which is nice and I rode 35 miles of dirt roads and no windscreen movement or noise. I have had to stop many times where it would come lose when riding off road.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: slowrider on August 24, 2017, 06:42:59 PM
How about on the motorway, have you had it at cruising speeds yet? if so how fast before the buffeting starts.  This info will be a great help for me making my decision.

Thanks
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Trailrunner on August 24, 2017, 07:08:46 PM
Yes it works great!!! I have very little wind noise at 75 mph. I can hear the engine now at 75. I have not had any buffeting like before when I would get to 50 mph it was nasty. The windscreen was the disappointment from the first day. I had a 40 mile ride home on the interstate it was loud and it would rattle when I was off road. I added the bark busters it would hit when I would lock the handle bars and I would have to lock it into place everyday before riding to and from work. Who ever designed the windscreen on the 2015 has never rode a bike with a windscreen on the hwy at speed. I am Honda's biggest fan, and thought OK something is wrong. I left the dealer and crossed RR tracks and had to turn and go back the screen came off and I was able to grab it and put it back on. The dealer said oh it must have not been on all the way service must have bumped it getting it ready.  It made the bike enjoyable at speed, we rode Sunday and 10 minutes after leaving home my wife said it so much better I can hear you good. We had been yelling in the intercom to talk to each other at 60 mph now we talk normal with no problem hearing.   
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Trailrunner on August 24, 2017, 07:25:15 PM
maybe you can see better in this picture.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: thefip on August 26, 2017, 10:04:07 AM
I was little bit annoyed by the turbulence with the original windscreen (in the lower position) on my 2017 CB500X.
I'm 177cm tall (5ft 9.6in)
So, today I moved it to the higher position.
It's raining today, so I'll keep you in touch soon (hopefully).
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: thefip on August 27, 2017, 09:23:49 AM
So, today I had a small ride (40 km) with the shield in high position.
Small improvement but barely noticeable  :021:  :006:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on August 27, 2017, 03:48:13 PM
I found the best way to minimize the buffeting is to space out just the bottom of the windscreen, the increased angle made a big difference in smoothing the air flow.  The stock mounting screws are 5x20.  I got some 5x30 stainless screws and 12mm long nylon spacers.  The stock angle is too upright and acts like a wall moving through the air.  There is a lot of turbulence in the air trying to get around it.  With it angled more the flow is more orderly and much smoother.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: thefip on August 27, 2017, 04:43:35 PM
Some pics would be appreciated  :152:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: theloop on August 28, 2017, 02:51:15 AM
Trailrunner, I took a picture in Michigan just like the one in your avatar.

(https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ssl:uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/services/mediarender/THISLIFE/021034990535/media/123243239489/medium/1502827343/enhance)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: fabio on September 24, 2017, 03:36:17 PM
Sorry I don't know whether it has been already asked... is it possible mounting the original Honda windshield of a 2016 CB500X (the second version) on a 2013 CB500X (the first version)?
I ask this because I think the 2013 CB500X windshield is fair, but something more protective could be better. I tried the Givi, but unfortunately I was completely unsatisfied with it generating so much turbulence.
The big problem with aftermarket windshields is that you never know how they work until you have chance to test them on the bike, which means you have already bought them...
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on September 25, 2017, 07:55:34 PM
*Originally Posted by fabio [+]
Sorry I don't know whether it has been already asked... is it possible mounting the original Honda windshield of a 2016 CB500X (the second version) on a 2013 CB500X (the first version)?
I ask this because I think the 2013 CB500X windshield is fair, but something more protective could be better. I tried the Givi, but unfortunately I was completely unsatisfied with it generating so much turbulence.
The big problem with aftermarket windshields is that you never know how they work until you have chance to test them on the bike, which means you have already bought them...

Yes, but the windshield brackets on the early 13-15 have to be bent slightly to accept 2016+ windscreen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: tomp on September 27, 2017, 04:17:03 PM
Haven't gone thru all 83 pages, but wondering if any here has/is using a Laminar Lip?  I have used their products with good success on at least 10 different bikes in the past.  I bought my 500X yesterday, and the first thing I did once in the house, was to call and order a model specific lip from them. 

FWIW, the lip smooths and lifts the air coming off the top edge of the screen.  Will report on it when it arrives next week.  tomp
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: VDZ on September 27, 2017, 07:43:13 PM
Thats one I haven't seen, I went through some of the 83 pgs but not all.

I took two pieces of Lexan and put 4 holes in each such that it moved the late model screen higher on my early model bike. I don't remember how much offset I added 3 or 4 inches I think. It works quite well, I can ride at highway speeds over 120kph with no issues unless there are high or cross winds, but any screen will suffer due to that.

Please report back on how the laminar lip worked.

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: tomp on September 27, 2017, 09:15:08 PM
*Originally Posted by VDZ [+]
Thats one I haven't seen, I went through some of the 83 pgs but not all.

I took two pieces of Lexan and put 4 holes in each such that it moved the late model screen higher on my early model bike. I don't remember how much offset I added 3 or 4 inches I think. It works quite well, I can ride at highway speeds over 120kph with no issues unless there are high or cross winds, but any screen will suffer due to that.

Please report back on how the laminar lip worked.
Will do.  Took my first road ride today.  I did feel the wind blast, but no buffeting except what comes off of the side edges of the screen.  LAminar noted that and their product is a few inches wider on both sides directing the air farther away from the body. 

FWIW this is a customer's pic, and the top edges are even, but according to the talk I had yesterday, the lip works best with the top of the lip1 1/2-2 1/2" above the screen's top edge.

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: kurth83 on September 27, 2017, 10:54:41 PM
I just installed the National Cycle 21" touring wind screen - in the low position, it is quieter (and 6" taller) than the 'tall' honda one, but not quiet enough to really declare victory.  My options are to try the high position, or some kind of extender.

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/national-cycle-vstream-tall-touring-windscreen-honda-cb500x-2013-2015

So I just ordered the adjustable spoiler we have seen around here to try even taller, and the spoiler might help with laminar flow too.  I like the adustability of it.

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/mra-x-creen-sport-variable-windscreen-spoiler-blade

If the spoiler doesn't give me quiet, I am going to the short stock windscreen next.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: tomp on October 03, 2017, 03:57:33 AM
I'm a bit disappointed in the Laminar Lip.  It did move the air up and out some, but it actually increased the wind blast on the helmet.  Moved the screen to both installation points, with little change.  Finally did what others have mentioned, removing the screen completely. Dang, noise gone, wind on the chest and helmet so smooth and much quieter.  It just looks a little weird with the mounts sticking up all alone. :002:

I was hoping for a different outcome, but am not spending another dime on wind protection.  There are screens and windshields all over the garage and utility room from attempting to solve similar problems on so many other bikes, from my past.  The only bike that has been successfully modified is my Concours 14, with a V Stream tall shield and a Laminar Lip. It is a quiet, smooth mile muncher now.  tp
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: kurth83 on October 04, 2017, 08:53:28 PM
So I tried the deflector on the touring windscreen (still in the low position), and it worked for mostly getting rid of the noise, still not as good as naked though.  It did clean up the wind flow, much less turbulence at freeway speeds, that part was cool.

I ended up having to look through the deflector however, and it does not provide very clear vision, so I removed it as eeww yuck.

Then I raised the touring screen up to the high position and did my commute.  Better, I can still just barely see over it, but if I slouch I can get behind it.  It provides clear vision, and the wind noise is better than the low position, but not as good as the deflector.  I class this one as livable but I would prefer better, and is viable for winter to keep the cold air off.

Another downside to these tall windscreens is helmet ventilation is completely different, the top vent still works somewhat, but the chin vent is useless, and I have to keep the visor cracked pretty much all the time, which increases noise, although it is engine noise instead of wind noise.  So I trade the buffeting of wind to the roar of the engine, yeah I have a slightly louder than stock pipe on it.

Next I am going to put the stock (low) screen on (I only used it for the first week I had the bike).  I vaguely recall it was pretty quiet, I'll lose an mpg or two, but that is worth it to save my hearing.  And if I don't chill too much it should be tolerable for winter and great in the summer.

FYI, I did a poll on another moto site (mostly sport riders there), and they almost universally agreed that low or no windscreen was quietest.
Not a single person said they liked a tall touring windscreen, a few said they liked the medium height (equivalent to the Honda 'tall' one).

The more hard-core sport-riders commented that at about 90 mph the lift from the wind on your chest gets the weight off the bars and is more comfortable.  Reminds me of why I bought an upright bike in the first place. :-)  Mine has no weight on the bars at any speed. :-)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Faddy Daddy on October 15, 2017, 05:02:33 PM
Wow, quite a long thread and I have to confess I certainly haven't read all of it. I do realize that everyone's situation is different as well as their criteria for evaluating how well things work.
 
With that said, there seem to be 2 solutions to the wind buffeting problem that stick out to me, both having great feedback on this thread and others. Those would be the Madstad system, and a GIVI screen using the Bruudt brackets.

I'm curious if anyone's tried both, and how they might compare. I think the Madstad system would be a bit more expensive but perhaps look nicer? Not so sure about that though looks really don't matter to me if I can get a nice quite buffeting free ride :)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Faddy Daddy on October 16, 2017, 04:39:02 PM
Well, referring to my above post ^ about which of the two options might be best for me, I guess I'm wondering which way to proceed.
On one hand I'm tempted to just order the Bruudt brackets and try them first on my oem screen, (2017). If that works well enough, it would be the cheapest. If it doesn't satisfy, then at that point I could switch to a Givi screen.
Or ... I could just go for the Madstad windscreen straight away which is more expensive but I feel pretty certain it would provide acceptable results...
That's my thinking... not sure which way to go at this point but I am pretty sure I don't want to try both  :001:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on October 16, 2017, 06:16:24 PM
*Originally Posted by Faddy Daddy [+]
I'm tempted to just order the Bruudt brackets and try them first on my oem screen, (2017). If that works well enough, it would be the cheapest. If it doesn't satisfy, then at that point I could switch to a Givi screen.

I used the Bruudt brackets to mount my California Scientific windscreen. As it had a port in the bottom, much like the Honda screen does, raising the screen allowed the windblast to push directly through the port into my torso. The result was a colder ride and a soft drumming. As changing the screen height did not push the windblast over my helmet, I am 6'2" tall, I sold the brackets.

Using the Brunt brackets to mount a windscreen without a port in the bottom, creates the same effect as the port which reduces noise and buffeting. That is why Honda added them.

The factor the most determines windscreen comfort is the rider's height. Riders as tall as me have found it difficult to find the perfect solution.

Straightening the screen creates buffeting and noise. That is why car windshields are sloped back.

Part of the wind blast problem is the distance from the top of the wind screen to the rider. Because CB500X riders enjoy a straight up riding position they are taller and farther from the screen. If you lean forward the wind blast and helmet noise lessens. However that is an uncomfortable riding position that is hard on the back.

I currently ride a CB1100EX. There is no wind screen and the riding position is slightly forward. So basically my torso is riding on the wind blast. I do not suffer from buffeting unless passing an oncoming large truck. My helmet is in clean air.

I own two helmets: a Bell MAG-9 open face helmet and a Shoei RF1200 full face helmet. I could not ride at highway speed on my CB500XA with the Bell helmet because of the wind noise. I could when I started using 3M E-A-Rsoft yellow neon ear plugs. Highly recommended. However at passing speeds the Bell wants to lift because of the air under the visor.

The Shoei is a quieter helmet, but unfortunately mine was too tight and uncomfortable with the cheek pads that came with it. I bought the smaller check pads and now use that helmet most of the time. It is much quieter than the Bell when using ear plugs, and does not lift at passing speeds.

BTW: If you own a Shoei and have never bothered using the Chin Curtain, you might want to try it as it lessens helmet noise. In cold weather it also keeps your chin warmer.

There are options depending on what you are trying to accomplish: reducing the wind blast, reducing buffeting, reducing helmet noise.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Faddy Daddy on October 16, 2017, 09:40:54 PM
Well, the wife and I took the bike out for another nice ride today, was quite comfy actually. My new helmet, a Scorpion EXO T-510 is also settling in nicely.
Today was mostly on a relatively slow curvy road, Skyline Ave near Portland, popular with lots of cyclists. So, keeping the speed down and I have no issues at all, and even the few short stints on the freeway weren't much of a bother but as I've learned, a lot can depend on wind conditions, traffic etc. Last week I had one pretty uncomfortable ride where we were on the freeway for an extended period.
So thanks for the input Nortoon, but my point was IF I decide to take one of two routes, either the Madstad system, or the Bruudt brackets with a Givi screen which might be the wisest?
I'm 5'10" but importantly will be taking my wife along most all of the time. However, we plan on doing a lot of back roads, seeing the gorgeous country, going out for lunches etc - though some time will be spent on the freeway - like if we care to buz to the coast. Oh, and I am accustomed to wearing the orange foam type ear plugs, though I might give those yeller ones a try, some even have flames on em, how cool is that? hehe
I guess I'm trying to get some advice from some of you guys that have several windscreens out in the garage and several gadgets laying around, (been there, done that on previous bikes). Sometimes I'm tempted to just leave well enough alone, but that one day where the wind was blowing and we tried heading to the coast, (and I'd forgotten my earplugs - and was using my old very loud crappy helmet), it was so damned uncomfortable I turned around - no way was I going to endure that for several or 3 hours if I didn't have too.  So maybe I'll just give the new helmet a go for a bit and see how it works, or should I maybe try the Bruudt brackets on stock screen with the ability to upgrade to Givi later, or ... dive into the Madstad right off the bat. That's my dilema and I know many of you have already been here, what would you advice?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Mel111 on October 16, 2017, 09:44:25 PM
*Originally Posted by Faddy Daddy [+]
Well, referring to my above post ^ about which of the two options might be best for me, I guess I'm wondering which way to proceed.
On one hand I'm tempted to just order the Bruudt brackets and try them first on my oem screen, (2017). If that works well enough, it would be the cheapest. If it doesn't satisfy, then at that point I could switch to a Givi screen.
Or ... I could just go for the Madstad windscreen straight away which is more expensive but I feel pretty certain it would provide acceptable results...
That's my thinking... not sure which way to go at this point but I am pretty sure I don't want to try both  :001:
Remember that you need the winglets with the Madstad, as with any screen it has to move the air somewhere! So it hits your body instead rather then your head the winglets help stop this.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Faddy Daddy on October 16, 2017, 10:01:28 PM
Thanks Mel111.

If I'm not mistaken it comes as a package, winglets are included. The Madstad is pricey though, I think like $260 US plus shipping. That's a lot of lunches for the wife and I :) The Bruudt brackets I believe are like 70 plus shipping and if needed I think Motostorm sells the Givi windscreen for less than 100 or so.
So the price difference would be approx $200 US for Bruudt + Givi screen and $300 for Madstad if I'm not mistaken.
That is where I get tempted to just try the Bruudt brackets, I mean for my type of riding maybe those alone on the stock screen would be enough. Even if I have to upgrade to the Givi screen it's less cash than the Madstad. However, what if I get those, spend that cash and am not satisfied and later find myself wishing for the Madstad ... that is what is worrying me though I would rather NOT spend $300 right off the bat... tough call and no wonder these windscreen threads get 100's of pages!  :001:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: kurth83 on October 16, 2017, 10:03:17 PM
FYI, my long wind-noise saga finally came to a close, after trying all different wind screen heights, I am back to the Honda 'tall' screen.

Turned out I didn't know how to insert the foam earplugs properly.
After much practice I can get them deeply inserted into the ear canal now.
My right ear is much harder, have learned where to tug to straighten things out.

I also switched to a Shoie GT-Air (quieter than the already quiet NeoTec).

The 33db claimed reduction for those Howard Leights is now finally a reality, I barely hear a thing now.  Huge wind noise is now a minor issue, I miss hearing the sound of the engine though, it is all but gone.

Can't believe I rode for all those years without knowing how to use earplugs properly.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Faddy Daddy on October 16, 2017, 10:11:30 PM
Sorry to hear that Kurth83, I mean that for all those years you didn't have them in properly. Glad though that you did eventually get it figured out. I guess I had a head start in that we had them all over the place at work, large boxes of them hanging from the walls here and there so I was practiced with rolling them between my fingers and inserting them. Then I always hold a finger pushing inward as they expand.
Still though, on occasion, on my commute home one side or the other would pop out, that was really annoying and definitely let you know how good of a job they do.
I will have to get some of the yellow ones though. Someone wrote earlier in this thread that they stay in better, nice.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Nortoon on October 17, 2017, 02:08:42 AM
A friend taught me to moisten my 3M Yellow Neon ear plugs after rolling them down. Apparently that is what car racers do. It makes it much easier to slip them in.

They stay in and are very comfortable. They are only good for two insertions if you moisten them. But I bought a box of 200 pair on Amazon.ca for $40 postage included, that's only 20 cents a set. I usually carry 3 or 4 pair in my tank bag, and hand a pair to any biker that asks me about them. Saves them the trouble I went through spending a year looking for the right hearing protection.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: ThirtyOne on October 27, 2017, 03:12:59 AM
*Originally Posted by kurth83 [+]
FYI, my long wind-noise saga finally came to a close, after trying all different wind screen heights, I am back to the Honda 'tall' screen.

Turned out I didn't know how to insert the foam earplugs properly.
After much practice I can get them deeply inserted into the ear canal now.
My right ear is much harder, have learned where to tug to straighten things out.

I also switched to a Shoie GT-Air (quieter than the already quiet NeoTec).

The 33db claimed reduction for those Howard Leights is now finally a reality, I barely hear a thing now.  Huge wind noise is now a minor issue, I miss hearing the sound of the engine though, it is all but gone.

Can't believe I rode for all those years without knowing how to use earplugs properly.

I have found larger diameter foam earplugs that fit my ears. The standard ones don't block any sound and just fall out. I never knew that they made different sizes. Perhaps you are using the wrong size.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: NEDan on October 27, 2017, 08:30:57 AM
After many years trying almost every earplug out there I've found these "Mighty Plugs" the best for me.
https://www.earplugsonline.com/motorcycle-ear-plugs/
Pricey yes but.. They last forever if you don't loose them.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: abys on December 14, 2017, 05:19:42 PM
Hi all, I am just 5'6 and the wind noise is terrible on speeds from about 55-60mph+

I have a 2017 bike with the Honda tinted screen. I notice that I sit bolt upright almost putting weight onto the pegs, the noise gets better. I guess I am just a bit too short.

It looks like the screen is in its lowest position. If I was to put spacers in the bottom two bolts to lower the height of the screen further and tilt it, would it make the wind more bearable?
Thanks, Andy
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on December 14, 2017, 05:23:25 PM
Each situation is unique.  All I can say is to try it and see for yourself.  :027:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: abys on December 14, 2017, 06:37:08 PM
Thanks for the reply. I guess i was kinda hoping for someone of my size to give pointers into what they did to overcome the issue. I have just been out and put some washers behind the bottom screws to see if that makes a difference at all. Looks like i may need to gwt bigger bolts though for bigger spacers if needed.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on December 14, 2017, 08:29:21 PM
I put 1/2" nylon spacers and longer bolts on the bottom of mine, that helped reduce turbulence and buffeting.  I also raised the screen about 8" above the stock high position with simple homemade brackets.  That puts the relatively calm pocket right on my head with the very top of my head in the slipstream to maintain adequate ventilation.  BTW, I'm 5'9" with 30" inseam.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Applecorp on December 16, 2017, 06:55:48 PM
I bought one of these cheapo spoilers for my previous bike (Bandit 650) but put it on my 2017 CB500X and it works even better with the stock screen. Not the prettiest thing but it completely eliminates any buffeting on my head and is as quiet as you can expect, obviously there will always be wind noise.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Windscreen-Windshield-Deflector-Extension-Variable-Spoiler-Blade/272949232161?hash=item3f8d0ac221:g:mpwAAOSwI8laF5kR

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on December 17, 2017, 06:40:29 PM
I may have to give that a try.  It is certainly less expensive than a full screen replacement.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Applecorp on December 17, 2017, 07:57:11 PM
It's definitely worth a try at that price, just have to wait a long time as they're from China.

It's really sturdy and holds very securely to your stock screen, a solid piece of kit.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Knoxychap82 on December 17, 2017, 09:37:30 PM
I have one of those! It's cheap Chinese crap but hey, it's not a safety item and it works! Why buy a wunderlich for 10 times the price? At least with this if it doesn't work you've only lost about 20 bucks 😁
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: retmotor on January 20, 2018, 04:13:05 AM
Just an observation: 

I was farting around with the bikes and did a little back to back ride; TW200 with a Jimbo shield vs CB500X with a short stock shield:  ~55MPH the TW has a less ragged air and is more comfortable and has quieter air flow-wise than the CBX, I kid you not.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on January 20, 2018, 04:24:54 AM
*Originally Posted by retmotor [+]
Just an observation: 

I was farting around with the bikes and did a little back to back ride; TW200 with a Jimbo shield vs CB500X with a short stock shield:  ~55MPH the TW has a less ragged air and is more comfortable and has quieter air flow-wise than the CBX, I kid you not.

Because the TW doesn't have all the pretty bodywork causing turbulence and low-pressure zones behind the windscreen.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: jsonder on January 21, 2018, 06:48:13 PM
Dirt bikes rule!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on January 21, 2018, 07:50:15 PM
*Originally Posted by jsonder [+]
Dirt bikes rule!

 :169: Especially the road legal ones.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Galejt on May 08, 2018, 05:28:00 PM
Ok. I checked to see if I posted this before.

Givi windscreen, Palmer mount. Added DIY wind mover-aroundinators which I call "DarthSchmader(c)" after an old Operations Officer of mine...

Coroplast and zip ties (black zip ties add 1hp)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/AccidentalWesAnderson.jpg)
The middlepart adjusts up and downish.
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/Final.jpg)
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/Final2.jpg)
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/Final4.jpg)
Prototype
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/Protoype.jpg)
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/Protoype2.jpg)

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on May 09, 2018, 02:19:25 AM
*Originally Posted by Galejt [+]
Ok. I checked to see if I posted this before.

Givi windscreen, Palmer mount. Added DIY wind mover-aroundinators which I call "DarthSchmader(c)" after an old Operations Officer of mine...

Coroplast and zip ties (black zip ties add 1hp)

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/AccidentalWesAnderson.jpg)
The middlepart adjusts up and downish.
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/Final.jpg)
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/Final2.jpg)
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/Final4.jpg)
Prototype
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/Protoype.jpg)
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/Protoype2.jpg)


 :182:

 :192:

We've discussed this on here before. Zip ties aren't good for extra power. They are good for 5mph on the top speed, 10 downhill with wind assistance.  :080:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: WayneTalbot on May 11, 2018, 05:15:53 AM
I have used the Wunderlich wind deflector on a number of bikes, including an R1200GS and VStrom 650, and found it to be very effective. When my 500X eventually arrives, and if I am not happy with the stock screen, my first action will be to install the Wunderlich device.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: 303 on May 11, 2018, 05:23:03 AM
I stumbled on Wunderlich yesterday and wondered if they were any good. If you do grab one for the X pls keep us posted.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: WayneTalbot on May 11, 2018, 05:32:26 AM
Will do.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: tomp on May 11, 2018, 05:42:22 AM
Currently using the stock '15 windshield in the low position, with a Laminar Lip on it.  The wind hits the shoulders and head, but the there is no buffeting.  Only wish the wind noise was less, like when standing on the pegs at highway speeds.  Almost no noise then, but I can ride standing for only so long, before garnering some LEO's attention.  tomp
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Winchester on May 12, 2018, 01:59:56 AM
Greetings everyone.

Please know this is simply an update report on my Madstad windshield (system?). I honestly have no idea if this system / update might help you or not but here it is, hoping it might. FWIW.

I am 5' 11''...185 lbs. I wear a Shoei helmet. Yes...I know it's a motorcycle...but I will do anything and everything I have to do to be comfortable when I ride. The X is comfortable but...as Everybody knows...not always...but typically has wind "issues." I don't any more. Period. For which I am more than thankful.

Rough weather has slowed down my riding on my 2018 XABS but the riding I've done has been more than just a little varied in some challenging conditions. All asphalt so far. There's been some gitty up Interstate work for a few hours...some fairly steep inclines at relatively high speed (70 mph+)...curvy, up and down back roads for extended periods...etc, etc. Early morning cold...afternoon wind gusts (40 mph+)...some of the usual unpleasantries we riders encounter.

For all the reasons Madstad states...I've been able to effectively reduce all the heavily discussed wind issue by at least 90%...maybe more than that? Not trying to sell Madstad...no connection with them...just sayin'...

I hope this part of riding your X gets worked out for you. While I can't say the Madstad system will work for you...it's made my X an absolute pleasure to ride.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on May 12, 2018, 03:32:52 PM
I give another big thumbs up  :152: for the MadStad system.  My commute is about 20 miles one way and includes twisty back roads, city roads and interstate highway.  I messed around with the stock screen, tilting it with spacers and moving it up and down.  At one point I had made brackets to raise it up in 1” increments to as high as 8” above the stock high position.  I also tried a Givi touring screen knock off.  Also tried tilting and raising that one.  Some configurations gave good results but never entirely what I was looking for to make my daily commutes is all weather as comfortable as I would like.

Then I ponied up for an MadStad system with the 22” screen.  What a difference!  On a couple occasions I have even forgotten to close my face sheild when leaving work until I got on the highway and noticed the wind.  I hear the bike much more now and tend to ride faster because it is so much more comfortable.

Like Winchester, I have no affiliation with MadStad, just a satisfied customer.

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/A5DEDC9A-13A4-4DAD-98BC-6BA946062E7A.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Celeste1178 on May 12, 2018, 03:51:44 PM
I can give another positive review for madstad.  I love mine!  The first time I rode after I installed it was the first time I actually heard my bike because the wind noise was reduced so much.  I have a modular LS2 strobe and enjoy riding with the sun shade down but the visor up.  Prior to the madstad I would have to lower the visor at 35MPH because the wind on the sunshade was too much.  Now, like mentioned above, I will forget I even have the visor up.  I can go 70MPH on the highway with the visor up.  The only time I lower it is due to cold, a cross wind, or to lower the wind noise on the freeway.  Even then, I have had conversations with my sena on the highway with the visor up and the people I'm talking to hear no wind interference.
 :152: :152: :152:
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: catstevecam on May 12, 2018, 07:30:22 PM
 :152: OK all you Madstad converts - is there any angle, gap or height that could transfer from your current setup to angling and spacing an existing screen - say by using Bruundt or Palmer?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Winchester on May 12, 2018, 07:36:38 PM
Cat,

I'd like to help you but I am not the one to ask. My wife says I should be forbidden to touch tools. I'm sure the good folks here will respond shortly. Good luck!

Cheers.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: SnowOwl on May 13, 2018, 04:05:30 AM
*Originally Posted by catstevecam [+]
:152: OK all you Madstad converts - is there any angle, gap or height that could transfer from your current setup to angling and spacing an existing screen - say by using Bruundt or Palmer?
As I noted above, I had played with height and angle on both the stock screen and a Givi touring screen knock off.  I was not able to achieve the results I get from the MadStad.  The MadStad does not have the side scallops the other screens have so it is wider with straight edges on the sides.  It has a single smooth curve, not the compound curves of the other screens.  This likely produces smoother air flow.  It also comes with “winglets” that mount on the top of the side fairings.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on May 13, 2018, 04:31:18 PM
The Madstad winglets probably do more good than anything.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: scbrooks87 on May 16, 2018, 07:39:47 PM
*Originally Posted by SnowOwl [+]
I give another big thumbs up  :152: for the MadStad system.  My commute is about 20 miles one way and includes twisty back roads, city roads and interstate highway.  I messed around with the stock screen, tilting it with spacers and moving it up and down.  At one point I had made brackets to raise it up in 1” increments to as high as 8” above the stock high position.  I also tried a Givi touring screen knock off.  Also tried tilting and raising that one.  Some configurations gave good results but never entirely what I was looking for to make my daily commutes is all weather as comfortable as I would like.

Then I ponied up for an MadStad system with the 22” screen.  What a difference!  On a couple occasions I have even forgotten to close my face sheild when leaving work until I got on the highway and noticed the wind.  I hear the bike much more now and tend to ride faster because it is so much more comfortable.

Like Winchester, I have no affiliation with MadStad, just a satisfied customer.

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/A5DEDC9A-13A4-4DAD-98BC-6BA946062E7A.jpg)

I'm looking at getting a Madstad system myself.  I think I'll go with the 22" as well. I'm 6'2" with a 32" inseam, so fairly long in the torso. Based on height alone their website recommends the 20" but I would rather have too much windshield than not enough.  Do you happen to have any other photos of your bike with the screen and winglets? Maybe a head-on type photo? Just curious about the aesthetic, even though I tend to be a function over form type of guy.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: AJC500 on May 16, 2018, 08:44:11 PM
My brother likes a screen on the large side - look at this one on his Valkyrie!!

More of a cruiser design though.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on May 16, 2018, 08:48:49 PM
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
My brother likes a screen on the large side - look at this one on his Valkyrie!!

More of a cruiser design though.

That is similar to the National Cycle screen on my V Star Classic cruiser. I get no wind on me when riding behind it.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: MeavyHetal on May 29, 2018, 09:16:52 PM
Hi all,

I've been using a puig tall screen with spacers on my 2015 bike. Decided to get the bruudt adapter to try and get airflow over my lid but it seems to have increased the buffeting instead. I've tried at different positions and none seem as calm or quiet as the spacers alone.

Has anyone else found that? I may have some brackets for sale too!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bullroarer on June 30, 2018, 08:29:03 AM
With 88 pages of “windshield posts” are we any nearer in solving this dilemma. Not to mention the seat!
It seems Honda may have devoted time to aesthetics opposed to practicality .
  But then the overall look of the bike is a “you know you want me look.
On my FJR, the screen is motorised. At full retract plenty of wind is thrown into ones face, at this stage the screen is at around 45 degrees, then press the button and the screen goes all the way up to a virtual vertical position, the wind and any noise vanishes....it is absolutely brilliant, together with that the screen is rounded and quite wide.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Bama_Rider on June 30, 2018, 10:31:58 PM
I have an FJR and I think the fairing and motorized screen work great too.  On the other hand, grafting that fairing and screen onto this bike would look silly.  Additionally, the FJR boards have just as lengthy threads about how bad the stock screen is and trying all sorts of alternatives from cut down screens to plastic barn doors.  No matter what a manufacturer hangs on the front of the bike, some people will be unhappy.   Most adventure style bikes have less wind protection than full touring bikes.  I think the stock screen and fairing work pretty well.  Other people do too.  Surprisingly effective considering how small they are.  The stock setup is always going to be a compromise of looks and effectiveness for different size people.     I changed mine for looks more than anything else and a minor adjustment to the air flow hitting my helmet.    With all due respect to those who like to tweak their bikes to suit them (I do some too), sometimes you have to accept a bike for what it is.  A small bike with a giant fairing isn't going to work very well.  If you want touring bike wind protection, then get a bike that has it.  On the FJR boards there are a lot of people coming off of cruisers that spend large amounts of money trying to fix the "sportbike" riding position.  First these guys obviously never rode a sportbike.  Second if you wanted a bike that sat like a cruiser, why did you buy this one?   I don't see the smallish fairing and the somewhat noisy air coming off of it as a problem that needs fixed.  I see it as a characteristic of the design choices Honda made, and I don't believe they made them without thought.  Yes, you can change it some to fit size and taste but if drastic changes are needed, you bought the wrong bike.  P.S. seats are the same way.  I think the FJR seat is fine.  Other's can't wait to change it. Everybody's butt is different. My CB500X seat is OK for at least an hour and a half in the saddle.  That's good enough for my old bones because I need to get off and stretch once in a while anyway.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bullroarer on July 01, 2018, 04:28:39 PM
Yep, I agree.
Without giving the wrong impression, the x is a great looker, and am overall pleased with its quality of build.
  And yes all riders are different. I find though most motorbikes are made for people from 5’6” to 6’. Luckily I’m in that category.
  As for the screen, I fitted this , and seems to have made a difference. Having got some acrylic I have increased the height of the original ( being the one on the trestle), and just been out for a ride and what a success!
  So I’m 5’8”; and the wind noise has gone, the force of the wind goes above my helmet, if I stand on the foot pegs raising myself 4 itches the noise and wind re appears.
   The design is very simple, as it came off another bike I once had, two brackets and 3m adhesive, and acrylic sheet A4 in size.
   I shall now it works, get a smoked acrylic sheet to match the Puig screen it’s on.
     Now the wind noise has gone the tyre is not very quiet....time for a new one.

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/30DAFF51-718C-43B4-BA99-79C73BE7A6B3.jpg)
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/EBAC8521-F89F-4972-86A4-5D0286C4342C.jpg)
(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/B1B45438-E7E7-404C-AFDD-712A6177B93C.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: 303 on July 02, 2018, 11:06:00 AM
Calmrider compares the stock screen, a small screen, the Puig and Puig + ebay deflector

Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Jukka on July 03, 2018, 09:22:03 PM
Has anyone found smaller windscreen than OEM screen?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: NiFalco on July 04, 2018, 10:58:08 AM
Hello there!
Very nice post you made there friend!

As an answer, I can tell, I changed de stock windshield of my 2017 cbx for a Puig one, the 2017 model has the same stock windshield as the 2016 which is a bit better, I think, then the under 2016 model. They have made two holes in the front of the stock windshield and it is a bit taller.
Still, I was experiencing turbulences in the upper part of my helmet while riding up to 100 km/h and that's the reason why I changed.

The Puig one is taller than the stock for about 10 to 15cm which makes a good difference. But they haven't made the holes that are on the stock and I think (not sure) that's why I can hear kind of a whistling when I am over 100 km/h.
Still it works really well, and it is a gain of protection without any doubt. I have ordered a wind deflector on aliexpress to if I can complete this protection because I still have a little bit of turbulences on highway over 130 km/h.

I'll keep updated when receiving and testing the deflector ;)

Ride safe!
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: EscCtrl on July 04, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
*Originally Posted by Jukka [+]
Has anyone found smaller windscreen than OEM screen?

'13-'15 had a short windscreen. '16+ has a tall windscreen. I do not know if the '13-'15 windscreen will fit the '16+. The tall '16+ can be retrofitted to the pre '16 bikes
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: AJC500 on July 08, 2018, 08:01:52 PM
I was at the British Superbikes today, and shared a table at breakfast with a Honda Africa Twin owner, he loves the bike and his only complaint is...…..wait for it...…..it's coming...…..buffeting!!  :745:

So for those having screen problems, it looks like trading in the X for an Africa Twin would not be the answer...….
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Jukka on July 08, 2018, 08:41:22 PM
I have -15 bike and stock screen - turbulence hits helmet and makes loud noise. If screen were lower helmet would be in clean air.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: AJC500 on July 08, 2018, 11:29:53 PM
*Originally Posted by Jukka [+]
I have -15 bike and stock screen - turbulence hits helmet and makes loud noise. If screen were lower helmet would be in clean air.

Chap I was speaking to said he sits very upright and gets some buffeting, but if he leans forward a bit it disappears and he is in clean air. He was interested to hear the things our forum has tried, different screens, brackets etc...….
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: bullroarer on July 09, 2018, 02:43:24 PM
The mod I did allows the air to flow over my open face helmet, and no buffeting, just tyre noise now.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: left22 on July 09, 2018, 04:51:30 PM
I’m 6’2’’ and was getting heavy wind buffering with the stock windshield

Purchased the Kappa Windshield Clear - KD1121ST from fortnine.ca for $110
The windscreen is made for the CB500X - 2017-2018 and did not interfere with the Hand Guards.

The difference is night and day and unless I’m riding in a heavy cross wind no more buffering.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Youngknight on July 10, 2018, 10:16:01 PM
Glad the kappa is working for you. I'm sold on the madstad but main concern is not having it too high so top of windscreen is too much in my main view looking down road. So at 5'11" and 30 inch inseam guide says 18 but seems I should go at least 20 and would get 22 but afraid of it being so tall that I would have top edge of windscreen in my main view.

So the kappa is 1/3 the price and has improved things tremendously for you but how close is the upper edge to your normal line of vision...recognizing you have 3" of ht on me. Wondered also about madstad users.

Have been procrastinating for too long which I am reminded of every time I go out on my x.
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Greg on July 11, 2018, 01:31:01 PM
*Originally Posted by left22 [+]
I’m 6’2’’ and was getting heavy wind buffering with the stock windshield

Purchased the Kappa Windshield Clear - KD1121ST from fortnine.ca for $110
The windscreen is made for the CB500X - 2017-2018 and did not interfere with the Hand Guards.

The difference is night and day and unless I’m riding in a heavy cross wind no more buffering.

which handguards are you talking about? Honda? BBSTORM?
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: CB-500-X on August 01, 2018, 04:35:43 AM
Check out my chop job .......

https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,7451.0.html

(https://cdn.img.cb500x.com/4e7ed08c43ff9d138.jpg)
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: left22 on August 07, 2018, 05:48:24 PM
Sorry Greg I missed the question:
The hand-guards are Honda

Youngknight, the top edge is in my view but I don't find it a issue
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Fran on August 13, 2018, 04:58:25 PM
I picked up a 2013 X. Came with a tall wind shield. Don't know the brand. Want to try a stock one.
Does anyone have one laying around that was replaced by an aftermarket one?
Thanks
Title: Re: Windshield Options
Post by: Bama_Rider on August 13, 2018, 05:57:03 PM
I have one.  It's in pretty good shape, a few light scratches from the previous owner's cleaning method.  I am close enough, you can ride or drive over and have a look.  I PMed you my cell number.