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Re: Cheap Gear Indicator
« Reply #30 on: July 06, 2018, 10:32:49 PM »
cb500xnewbie,  i had the same problem wiring to neutral switch, searched net and found someone figured out that a relay had to be installed inline to neutral circuit switch,i added relay to open and close with key and it supplies correct ground to gear indicator when in neutral

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Re: Cheap Gear Indicator
« Reply #31 on: July 07, 2018, 02:26:31 PM »
*Originally Posted by SnowOwl [+]
Here it is.  It's a very cheap unit I found on eBay over a year ago, it was $5.98.  It is a combo voltmeter and thermometer made to plug into the cigarette lighter socket in a car.  The plug-in part of the body held just the fuse and wiring, the circuit board in entirely contained in the head of the package.  I cut off the back part that plugged into the socket and soldered on long wires to reach back to my aux fuse box.  Then I used hot glue to seal around the display face from the inside and literally filled the inside with hot glue to encapsulate the circuit board and waterproof it.  It is stuck to the lower dash with double stick tape.  So far it has worked great and has been accurate, until last week when the voltmeter started reading 0.6v higher.  I put an instrument grade voltmeter on the battery to verify that the bike's electrical system was still performing the same and that it is the cheap voltmeter reading high.  I will just make a mental note of this fact and deal with it.  The thermometer part is still accurate.  If it fails altogether I will have to find another voltmeter and thermometer and redo the setup, but at the original $5.98 I think I have gotten my money's worth out of it.



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Re: Cheap Gear Indicator
« Reply #32 on: July 08, 2018, 04:42:27 AM »
*Originally Posted by Bama_Rider [+]

Your first reason makes me nervous.  I have an image of a person slowing down to make a left turn across traffic while looking at numbers on the dashboard.   I would keep my eyes peeled and count to 4. :016:
I dont stare at the dash.  The process is to glance at it before the intersection and doing the downshift to 2nd gear to verify what gear I am starting in, then shift down the proper number of times to get to 2nd gear.  If I miss a shift I can glance at it again to verify exactly what gear Im in, but that is rare.

Also, the turn is in a dip and on a curve.  So, depending on how much my hooligan is showing and how much traffic there is I might be in 4th, 5th or 6th at this point.
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Re: Cheap Gear Indicator
« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2018, 04:09:36 PM »
Follow up on my fix for the voltage indicator calibration issue noted in a previous post.

It occurred to me that the volt meter reading over the real value is actually a very simple fix to calibrate it.  I used a good quality multimeter to measure the current draw of the device.  It was right at 20mA.  I need it to read about 0.5v-0.6v lower, so need to drop that much with a resistor.  Ohms law calculates I needed a 25-30 ohm resistor to drop 0.5-0.6v at 20mA.  I scrounged up a 47ohm and a 56ohm 1/8w resistor that in parallel measure 26ohms.  Installed it in the feed line for the device and it brings the voltage indication to within 0.1v of what the good meter reads directly on the battery terminals.  Problem solved!
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Re: Cheap Gear Indicator
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2019, 10:30:05 PM »
Can someone explain to me how this cheap gear position indicator functions?  Does it measure the "position" of the gear shifting rod , or, does it count pulses sensed by the sensors?

I have a GIPro (first design) and I don't like the fact that one must engage the clutch fully to get an accurate indication of the current gear.  Like has been said here before, sometimes, I would really like to know what gear I'm in without testing the engine RPM.  And, counting isn't always reliable because I sometimes miss a shift, usually on the way up, 1-2 or 2-3.  I don't think I miss any downshifting; and I can usually keep track of how many times I downshift.  But, what gear was I in when I started?  Oh, rats, I forgot to count on the way up...

And, I always miss 6-7.  :138:  I'm OK with a 6-speed, very close ratio tranny, but I'm an old fart and I'm having a hard time getting used to this modern, high-reving motor.  I also keep reaching for that next gear.  :015:


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Re: Cheap Gear Indicator
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2019, 11:00:41 PM »
the gear indicators that have two sensors and magnet , these ones you have to mount one sensor  low and one sensor high and place magnet on shift linkage in between them, as magnet gets close to either high or low sensor it counts- up or down, that said be aware if not set up correctly it can  give false count up or down, lots of test rides to find exact position, and also once you reach 6th, you can still shift up for 7 and 8 to show on display- actually displaying wrong gear till  down shifting to reach  neutral for reset-  every time neutral is selected display count is reset, hope that helps

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Re: Cheap Gear Indicator
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2019, 11:12:04 PM »
Thanks, mactools22!  Helps tons!


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