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Re: Front and rear sprocket sources
« Reply #290 on: July 26, 2017, 04:23:41 AM »
Honda NC700 DCT original equipment. No need to screw around with after market stuff.

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Re: Front and rear sprocket sources
« Reply #291 on: January 12, 2018, 06:57:19 PM »
hi all.
do you have the same problem as me in not having good markers on each side of the
swinging arm while trying to ajust the chain.
I can not tell weather the chain is near its last adjustment or not.
is there any other way of telling when your chain is on its last adjustment?
I would be greatfull for any advice.
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Re: Front and rear sprocket sources
« Reply #292 on: January 12, 2018, 07:37:57 PM »
With the bike on the stand, pull on the chain on the rear sprocket at the center (axle height).  If the play is <1/4 inch you are good, if >1/2 inch the chain is too stretched.  Between 1/4 and 1/2 inch is owners choice in the evaluation.  I tend to change at 3/8 inch, myself.

Conversely, my OEM chain has over 16K miles and is still tight on the rear sprocket.  ATF applied frequently does well.
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Re: Front and rear sprocket sources
« Reply #293 on: February 21, 2018, 12:25:21 PM »
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Any comments about chain wear or vibration from those who have fitted the 16 tooth sprocket, since all chain manufacturers do not recommend chain links going over the same tooth every rev.

Read through the thread but haven't seen, or maybe missed the post that says if the 15/39T combination has the same problems as the 16/41, ie every revolution of the chain passes over the same sprocket tooth. Any ideas anyone if it does occur with the 15/39 combination?

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Re: Front and rear sprocket sources
« Reply #294 on: February 21, 2018, 12:41:35 PM »
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Read through the thread but haven't seen, or maybe missed the post that says if the 15/39T combination has the same problems as the 16/41, ie every revolution of the chain passes over the same sprocket tooth. Any ideas anyone if it does occur with the 15/39 combination?

No it doesn't have the same problem, not perfect but better than 16/41. you can check any combination here http://www.gearingcommander.com/

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Re: Front and rear sprocket sources
« Reply #295 on: February 21, 2018, 12:43:19 PM »
I believe the stock chain is 112 links (? correct me if I'm wrong with this number), so with a 16T front sprocket 112/16 = 7 which is an integer and so it goes over the same tooth every 7th rotation. With the other sprocket sizes (i.e. 15, 39 and 41) they pass over the same tooth far less frequently.

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Re: Front and rear sprocket sources
« Reply #296 on: February 21, 2018, 04:16:52 PM »
*Originally Posted by inc [+]
No it doesn't have the same problem, not perfect but better than 16/41. you can check any combination here http://www.gearingcommander.com/

Thanks for that  :152:

Stock = 615, 15/39 = 195, 16/41 = 41 so five times better that 16/41 and a third as good as the 15/41 if I read it correctly and the number of links is unchanged.

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Re: Front and rear sprocket sources
« Reply #297 on: February 27, 2018, 11:15:55 AM »
Hi jsonder, I'm just unsure, the ATF fluid you mention for lubing your chain, that's​ Automatic Transmission Fluid..? If yes, I've never heard of using that before, but seems to work from what you say, so that's good. But if it's something else, please tell me, because I'll probably give it a try. And auto transmission fluid and power steering fluid are the  same I believe.. unless I'm mistaken?.  Cheers.

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Re: Front and rear sprocket sources
« Reply #298 on: February 27, 2018, 01:02:28 PM »
*Originally Posted by Namgats [+]
Hi jsonder, I'm just unsure, the ATF fluid you mention for lubing your chain, that's​ Automatic Transmission Fluid..? If yes, I've never heard of using that before, but seems to work from what you say, so that's good. But if it's something else, please tell me, because I'll probably give it a try. And auto transmission fluid and power steering fluid are the  same I believe.. unless I'm mistaken?.  Cheers.
Yup, automatic transmission fluid.  I buy a gallon of dexron ATF at walmart for $13-14, IIRC.  I also use it in the front forks, as that used to be the standard approach from Honda.  The ATF has additives to help keep seals flexible so it aids the life span of the o- or x-rings installed in your chain.

One of the fellows that I rode dirt bikes with put me on to it.  ATF does not attract/hold grit like gear oil does.  My dirt bike typically gets it's chain rinsed and re-lubed after every ride.  I ordered my 500X with luggage rack and center stand, so lubing with a nitrile glove and a nearly saturated sock top is a breeze.  You do need newspaper or such under the chain to catch the drips; it is a messy process.  I lube the 500X every 100 to 200 miles; I have never heard or over-lubing causing damage to the chain or sprockets.  Flooring and "throw off" are another matter.  ;-)
« Last Edit: February 27, 2018, 01:11:46 PM by jsonder »
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Re: Front and rear sprocket sources
« Reply #299 on: February 27, 2018, 01:21:54 PM »
Fantastic, thanks, I'll certainly be giving it a go, especially as you say it doesn't hold the dirt like regular oil does, and if it's worked for you, no reason why it shouldn't work for me, plus I'm a gentle rider in any case, thanks again for the info! 👍

 


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