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OP (options plug) connector confusion,lets resolve it.
« on: April 28, 2015, 02:16:01 PM »
Please refer to updated post in this thread and found here.
https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,2538.msg26502.html#msg26502

IMPORTANT NOTE FOR 2016+ WITH LED HEADLIGHT.
The blue wire in the front options plug that is powered by the bright headlight circuit can only be used to trigger a relay for the auxiliary/off-road lights. If it is used to actually power a set of auxiliary lights, it will burn out the LED headlight driver. This has been proven by a few members here. The LED headlight replacement is very expensive. The 2013-15 models with standard headlight does not seem to be affected by running low wattage auxiliary lights. I have 36 watts running off of my front blue options plug wire on my 2014.

While trying to help a fellow member, I learned something new about OP (options plug) connectors. I got all this info from this site and I will post everything I have found. I saved these photos to my Flickr account so hopefully, they will not be lost.

Euro under seat connector.


North American under seat connector.


Euro under seat connector with male connector removed.


This is the front connector located in the middle cowl. It should be the same on all bikes.


This is the plug with male connector removed.


A possible source for connectors.

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/main.html

http://www.vintageconnections.com/

http://cycleterminal.com/


Wiring colors.

Green = Ground/Earth
Violet/Red = Switched 12 volt= Power with key on.No power with key off.
Blue = power on with bright headlight


Threads for reference.
https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,1586.0.html

https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,760.0.html

https://www.cb500x.com/index.php?topic=2501.0

https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,1036.0.html

https://www.cb500x.com/index.php?topic=1731.0

https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,378.0.html

I will try to update this as new info is introduced.
« Last Edit: June 15, 2018, 01:08:53 AM by EscCtrl »

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Re: OP (options plug) connector confusion,lets resolve it.
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2015, 03:36:08 PM »
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I cut my plugs off and installed Molex plugs and pins which are easily obtained in the UK.  Personal preference.  Good posting though well done, should be of real use to many. :152:

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Re: OP (options plug) connector confusion,lets resolve it.
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2015, 09:22:31 PM »
*Originally Posted by Englishman [+]
:460:

I cut my plugs off and installed Molex plugs and pins which are easily obtained in the UK.  Personal preference.  Good posting though well done, should be of real use to many. :152:

Thanks.I understand your choice.I have done something similar on other motorcycles and autos.I think that Honda may be trying to start a trend.Hopefully,motorcycle accessory companies will catch on,and make products plug and play with Honda's electrical connections.

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Re: OP (options plug) connector confusion,lets resolve it.
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2015, 01:09:35 AM »
Well done for your effort in trying to put this subject to bed once and for all. However, I'll bet before long, there will be a question pertaining to it. I haven't checked all your references but would guess you've done a thorough job on them. Now if you can come up with a foolproof way of getting people to actually search for it, you will have cracked it. Good luck
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Re: OP (options plug) connector confusion,lets resolve it.
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2015, 01:16:03 AM »
*Originally Posted by Defender [+]
Well done for your effort in trying to put this subject to bed once and for all. However, I'll bet before long, there will be a question pertaining to it. I haven't checked all your references but would guess you've done a thorough job on them. Now if you can come up with a foolproof way of getting people to actually search for it, you will have cracked it. Good luck

Thanks and I agree about searching for it.I was hoping a sticky would be made with useful threads linked in.

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Re: OP (options plug) connector confusion,lets resolve it.
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2015, 10:30:26 AM »
I certainly appreciate your effort, but I still don't manage to even take the connector apart! I press with a small screwdriver on the three little lugs, but it won't budge. There is surely a trick to it but it escapes me.

Also, there was a part number given for the male terminals in one of the posts: 515175232. My local UK Honda dealer searched for this number but it does not exist as a Honda part in this country. When you Google the number it comes up as a snowmobile part with lots of hits in the USA, Canada and Russia. Do I really have to order these tiny pins all the way from there, and pay exorbitant shipping charges, or does anybody know of a source in the UK?

So there - searching won't help me, but practical advice from someone in the UK who has actually connected something to this thing might. Many thanks in advance.

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Re: OP (options plug) connector confusion,lets resolve it.
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2015, 11:25:57 AM »
fg

some local input for you from the uk ...

The plug does come apart nicely, no trick other than the magic trick of depress 3 tabs at the same time with 2 hands or farkle them out one by one.

I looked for a local source of these male connectors in uk/europe to no avail... they are standard male elements for a line of connectors from Sumitomo that you get on many Jap bikes but I could not find a source ... tried the local specialist ... who sold me some expensive 'almost fit' stuff, second time around I gave up and bought from the US, or as defender pointed out get a standard uk male spade terminal and cut it in half (now why did I not think of that)...

Just searched again and found an ebay source of the plugs you might try them for the male elements http://stores.ebay.co.uk/dcelectronicsmotorsportspecialist?_trksid=p2054897.l2563 but probably end up paying the same as getting them from the states.

You asked the honda dealer lol... a common solution in the UK seems to be to cut off the quality Sumitomo connectors and replace with some carp molex or some such common in the UK... my experience with molex is they work for a few years but after 10 years go brittle and vibrate apart and leave you stranded..

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Re: OP (options plug) connector confusion,lets resolve it.
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2015, 03:02:21 PM »
Thank you hec.

I have decided to get myself an Centech AP2 fuse block and will wire everything in there. This is described nicely in a post here:
https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,1852.msg15726.html#msg15726.

I still need to connect this to the switched positive lead going into the OP connector, but if I really can't get that apart I will cut the wire and connect it directly to the AP2. The earth and unswitched positive will come straight from the battery and should not be a problem.

I will wire the GPS and charger pig tail into the unswitched connections and a power plug and running lights into the switched ones. This should tidy up the wiring nicely. And best of all: the AP2 has screw connections so no bother with terminal pins  :002:

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Re: OP (options plug) connector confusion,lets resolve it.
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2015, 04:31:10 PM »
EscCtrl, to make it a sticky, it has to be submitted to Admin for appro, which is fair enough as it has to be accurate. As you are discovering, there are still questions being asked about where, when and how, and part numbers etc.
 It is a Sisyphean task( google it)
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Re: OP (options plug) connector confusion,lets resolve it.
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2015, 06:03:19 PM »
*Originally Posted by Defender [+]
EscCtrl, to make it a sticky, it has to be submitted to Admin for appro, which is fair enough as it has to be accurate. As you are discovering, there are still questions being asked about where, when and how, and part numbers etc.
 It is a Sisyphean task( google it)

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