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Offline RRocket

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Quirky Handling
« on: July 23, 2017, 04:31:02 AM »
As much as I enjoy my CB, it has an odd handling quirk that doesn't inspire confidence. When leaned over in an aggressive turn and I hit even the smallest stone or imperfection, the tire deflects, seems to want to tuck, then grips. It's annoying and I'm lacking in confidence. It's worse on gravel. I'm no newb..I used to ride supermoto so I'm used to sliding things around.

I've played with suspension (42mm sag front.. as much as front preload allows, rear set at 33 percent of travel), air pressures (32f, 38r currently), repositioning bars, etc

Not sure what my next move is...new tires?

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Re: Quirky Handling
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2017, 06:26:26 AM »
Rally Raid level 1 suspension. Our suspension is just a notch above a mopeds.

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Re: Quirky Handling
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2017, 08:12:56 AM »
Changing the stock tyres on mine next week for PR4's. The 609's are at best "Rim Protectors".

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Re: Quirky Handling
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2017, 09:25:45 AM »
I'd say tyres too - they can change things significantly......

I don't mind the standard Dunlops on my X, although the Dunlops on my previous Suzuki SV were horrible and it's not a make I would choose!!  My Hyosung was on Continental Conti Motion (admittedly road tyres)which were great, and there are plenty of other tyre comments on this site too.

I use the recommended tyre pressures which are a bit higher than you are using.
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Re: Quirky Handling
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2017, 11:52:36 AM »
*Originally Posted by AJC500 [+]
I'd say tyres too - they can change things significantly......

I don't mind the standard Dunlops on my X, although the Dunlops on my previous Suzuki SV were horrible and it's not a make I would choose!!  My Hyosung was on Continental Conti Motion (admittedly road tyres)which were great, and there are plenty of other tyre comments on this site too.

I use the recommended tyre pressures which are a bit higher than you are using.

I had them higher before...and the deflection sensation/sliding was worse yet.

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Re: Quirky Handling
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 03:36:15 PM »
Just a little note on tyres. Rode a good distance in medium to heavy rain yesterday on the standard rubber. Quite unpleasant, absolutely no feel or feedback from tyre/road interface. Was getting small slides ( although they always feel bigger than they actually are ) without any warning. Nasty things and destined for the skip.

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Re: Quirky Handling
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2017, 03:59:35 PM »
*Originally Posted by RRocket [+]
As much as I enjoy my CB, it has an odd handling quirk that doesn't inspire confidence. When leaned over in an aggressive turn and I hit even the smallest stone or imperfection, the tire deflects, seems to want to tuck, then grips. It's annoying and I'm lacking in confidence. It's worse on gravel. I'm no newb..I used to ride supermoto so I'm used to sliding things around.

I've played with suspension (42mm sag front.. as much as front preload allows, rear set at 33 percent of travel), air pressures (32f, 38r currently), repositioning bars, etc

Not sure what my next move is...new tires?

Tyres made quite a big improvement on mine, I put the Bridgestone T30Evo. I will likely upgrade to RR level 1 during August or early Sept, like CB-500-X our suspension is not good at all.

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Re: Quirky Handling
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2017, 03:44:18 AM »
I went from the stock Dunlops (got 17,000km out of them) to some PR4's. Massive difference! Im a new rider (18months) and the 2016 500X is my first bike but the Pilot Road 4's have given me much more confidence in the turns.

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Re: Quirky Handling
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2017, 09:17:50 AM »
The sound of the standard Dunlop 609's hitting the skip was indeed a moment of great joy. The now fitted and scrubbed PR4's are a revelation in feel and feedback. It is my humble opinion that binning the stock tyres and fitting these is the best value for money improvement one can make on this bike.

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Heated grips, gear position indicator, grip puppies, fenda extenda, tank protector, Michelin PR4's with "Tyre seal installed", shaved seat, rack and Givi Blade top box, rear hugger, sidestand plate, center stand, Hawk accessory bar with spotlights, Daneli mini soundbomb, Givi XS319 tanklock bag, loobman oiler, Evotech radiator guard, Fuel Micro Mini minus baffle and a liberal coating of Acf50 oh and a detachable sheepskin seat pad, lovely.

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Re: Quirky Handling
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2017, 09:10:17 PM »
I have always liked my CB500x 2016 ABS. It handled fine in rain and dry. Not great a touch wobbly and a bit skitty over bumps and white lines were dodgy. But it did the job. I covered 4500 miles on the stock dumlop 609s (thats not a spelling mistake)

The front Dunlop was wearing quite badley the back was fine hardly worn at all. I got a great big nail in rear which cut the side wall so I had to Bin the tyre. After a bit of research I selected the PR4s.

My god its like a new bike it handles I can lean it over in the dry and in the wet with total confidence. No more wobbles or skitty behaviour just planted firm riding with total control. I love the bike now its simply transformed it from a good avergae bike to an great bike.

I wouldnt take it off road but as it stands Im going to keep it I was considering selling but not anymore I love it.

Number one upgrade to your cb500x the PR4.
Second upgrade heated grips.
Third a USB charger lol.

 


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