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Can't get clutch plates off to take off glaze
« on: September 27, 2017, 06:37:13 AM »
Help....

Trying to remove clutch plates so I can scrape off the glaze, but I can't figure out how to get at the clutch plates as the basket sits on a splined shaft. (The basket is press fit onto the splined shaft.

Do I need a special tool, if yes can you give me the part number?

Google search came up with nothing even close for the CBX.

Trying to go on a ride, but need my clutch not to slip!

Thanks in advance for you help!

Ps: I live in a remote location in Canada (do have Honda shop in town but they are a multi brand shop and not that knowledgable

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Re: Can't get clutch plates off to take off glaze
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2017, 07:24:23 AM »
I had a look at the 2015 parts micro fishe but I. Could not see the splined shaft part.

http://www.partzilla.com/parts/search/Honda/Motorcycle/2015/CB500X+A/CLUTCH/parts.html
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Re: Can't get clutch plates off to take off glaze
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2017, 09:02:45 AM »
After you remove the staked lock nut and washer, which according to the pictures look like you have, the clutch plate (#9 in the link you included) should be able to just slide out. After that you'll have access to the plates.

Also, the splined shaft is not in that fiche picture because its the end of the main shaft, it should be in the transmission fiche.

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Re: Can't get clutch plates off to take off glaze
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2017, 02:16:32 PM »
But that's the thing, I don't have the staked loc washer, it was just a nut and two washers.  Got those off, but can't pull the discs out cuz of the splined shaft issue.....
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Re: Can't get clutch plates off to take off glaze
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2017, 02:33:58 PM »
Here are the clutch disassembly pages from the manual


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Re: Can't get clutch plates off to take off glaze
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2017, 12:02:18 AM »
Update: clutch pack removal problem.

Checked in with Honda and they don't understand it either, it should just pull off.  Problem might be related the excessive heat generated when I was overworking the clutch and having a aluminum inner basket mated with a steel shaft, so it is sticking.

They suggested I apply some heat (propane torch/heat gun) around the steel shaft splines and some WD40 to the splines to see if that will loosen it.

It had better, as a replacement inner clutch basket is ~$370CND!!

Wish me luck....
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Re: Can't get clutch plates off to take off glaze
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2017, 12:27:58 AM »
I just reread what I said above and I referenced the wrong part in the fiche you linked to, I meant to say part #3 should be able to be removed next, not #9. Sorry if that led to any confusion.

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Re: Can't get clutch plates off to take off glaze
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2017, 01:22:32 AM »
Ah, thanks no worries, yes that's the piece that I'm tugging on!
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Re: Can't get clutch plates off to take off glaze
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2017, 07:01:55 AM »
Great news....   :047:

My buddy came over with 2 small pry bars (flat blade with a notch cut out in the middle), that he got in a screwdriver kit. He used them like he did the flat screw drivers the other day, but was able to seat them better and was able to rock the pack gently from side to side and viola the pack let go and came off the shaft!

Some of the metal plates had the black paint worn off in spots, so I wore some more off with the sand paper.

We are all good to go now.

I also installed the EBK upgraded clutch springs, didn't notice any difference in clutch pull.

Ready to rock now!

Thanks again for helping this noob out!
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Re: Can't get clutch plates off to take off glaze
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2018, 08:16:08 PM »
Update:

Last fall after the deglazing I went on a 2000km ride and the clutch performed well.

Bad news is when I did the winter storage oil change, I used 10-30 wt oil that had friction modifiers in it, so after my first ride this spring (one day of ADV training so was working the clutch more than normal), the clutch started to slip again.

I changed out the oil 3x to clear out the bad oil but the clutch still slips as the friction plates sat in the bad oil over the winter.

I've got new clutch and friction plates to do a full replacement, so I'm wondering if one side of the plates are different so they have to be installed a certain way?  Both sides look the same to me.

Thanks in advance.
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