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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #90 on: November 08, 2018, 08:02:28 PM »
*Originally Posted by Jonathan [+]
I wouldn't be too disheartened. The 2018 is a pretty refined bike compared to the original X, which itself wasn't a bad bike to start with. On paper the 2019 looks to be much improved, but in real terms I imagine you'd be hard pressed to feel much difference between the two. You're still looking at a mid-powered adv style road bike with budget suspension, when all's said and done (without wishing to sound too disparaging)...in some ways, you're better off buying an earlier model and putting the cash saved where it's actually needed, ie better tyres and suspension. Increased ride height doesn't necessarily equate to better ride quality, either. Now if they'd upped the output to 70HP and but better brakes on it, and I'd just been persuaded to buy a 50HP because the dealer wanted to shift old stock....I'd be similarly aggrieved...

and it still feels more nimble than a V strom

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #91 on: November 09, 2018, 01:01:31 AM »
I am one that has been holding out a bit - so now it will be a discounted 2017/2018 or a new 2019 - lets see what the price spread ends up being and if the dealers are willing to let old inventory go at a good discount.

The marketing department sure know how to make the upgrades look like the bikes is significantly redesigned, but having played these games many times over the years - I doubt that one model would feel much better, faster more comfortable or capable than the other, it is usually just small tweaks, with the only "real" change being the larger front. Since I'll be 90% asphalt with a fire road once in a while I can go either way.

Just curious if it was you - what percentage would you pay extra for the 2019 model.  5 - 10 - 20 - 30% more than what you could have a new stock 2017/18 for ?

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #92 on: November 09, 2018, 01:21:05 AM »
*Originally Posted by Revoflyer [+]
I am one that has been holding out a bit - so now it will be a discounted 2017/2018 or a new 2019 - lets see what the price spread ends up being and if the dealers are willing to let old inventory go at a good discount.

The marketing department sure know how to make the upgrades look like the bikes is significantly redesigned, but having played these games many times over the years - I doubt that one model would feel much better, faster more comfortable or capable than the other, it is usually just small tweaks, with the only "real" change being the larger front. Since I'll be 90% asphalt with a fire road once in a while I can go either way.

Just curious if it was you - what percentage would you pay extra for the 2019 model.  5 - 10 - 20 - 30% more than what you could have a new stock 2017/18 for ?

Two items that I would be curious to feel on the new bike would be the fueling, which I find is already nice on my 2013 anyway, and the reduced clutch effort, which of all of the updates would probably be the most noticable.

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #93 on: November 09, 2018, 01:32:45 AM »
@Revoflyer here in Aus the price increase on new versions of the X was about 8%. Poor maths ... it's 7.5% but +$600 on $8000 for a 2017 model. So RRP/MSRP = $8600.00.

If IIRC 2015 was the 2nd Gen and prices IIRC were about $7500. Then I think we saw $7990 a year later. Then I recall is was about $8400 for some time. I might have the years +1 what they actually were but I think the dollar increases are about right.

After writing the above I think it varied somewhere between 6% and 8%. Perhaps 8% on new version in 2016, 6% in between. In my case the dealer discounted that price increase.

AUD to USD is 1.0/0.75 on a good day... which it isn't today.

I wouldn't be disappointed with any X. I was going to buy previous year but the run out sale was huge success and all gone in no time. in 2 weeks or something stupid. I had less to spend on farkles. Still saving (again) for some more. But no regrets.

Lesson: Don't procrastinate. Decide. Commit. Enjoy.
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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #94 on: November 09, 2018, 01:36:07 AM »
I looked yesterday at hondampe.com.au & the list price is au$7699 + on road costs, I wanted to see what the rise is when the 2019 arrives.

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #95 on: November 09, 2018, 02:05:34 AM »
*Originally Posted by gavmac [+]
I looked yesterday at hondampe.com.au & the list price is au$7699 + on road costs, I wanted to see what the rise is when the 2019 arrives.

Yep thats about right. ORC vary a bit by state. $8611 in WA.

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #96 on: November 09, 2018, 12:02:27 PM »
After checking all of the various sites with info about the 2019 CB500x, I've compiled all of the features/changes currently posted, see the attached '.pdf' document.  There were a few confusing statements about the front suspension travel.  After doing some research, it appears the '19 model will have .2"/5mm less travel, from 5.5"/140mm to 5.3"/135mm, than previous years.  We will just have to wait to find out if there have been any internal improvements to offset the loss.

Lots of good stuff on the 2019, would like a bit more power and/or less weight, but while not my perfect ride, it's close enough for me to place a deposit with my dealer to get one.

Now, if anyone wants a nice 2015.............lesmeister 😎

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #97 on: November 09, 2018, 12:53:15 PM »
The 2019 bike is more than the refreshes that they do on bikes after a couple of years, and more than the changes that have been made since the bike first came out. So I'll put my money on Honda taking the opportunity for more than a small price hike, if you look at how their new bike prices have grown recently. Which will be a shame.

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #98 on: November 09, 2018, 01:08:48 PM »
*Originally Posted by lesmeister [+]
After checking all of the various sites with info about the 2019 CB500x, I've compiled all of the features/changes currently posted, see the attached '.pdf' document.  There were a few confusing statements about the front suspension travel.  After doing some research, it appears the '19 model will have .2"/5mm less travel, from 5.5"/140mm to 5.3"/135mm, than previous years.  We will just have to wait to find out if there have been any internal improvements to offset the loss.

Lots of good stuff on the 2019, would like a bit more power and/or less weight, but while not my perfect ride, it's close enough for me to place a deposit with my dealer to get one.

Now, if anyone wants a nice 2015.............lesmeister 😎

fwiw. Based on what I know about pulling these bikes apart (a lot ;o) - I'd say that the suspension figures that have been offered are indeed more likely to be the increase in the rear, and the slight reduction in the front... as Lesmeister has posted above.

Not only as it appears there is not much more (if any) stanchion showing on the front of the 2019 bike, but if you add a 19" front wheel, you immediately raise the front at least 25mm (the extra inch radius).

Therefore to balance the bike out (and keep approximately the same rake and trail - although the 2019 does have a 1 more relaxed fork rake according to the specs), you also need to raise the rear end, which always had less travel than the front did anyway... hence the increase there*

*If the figures are correct, the +31mm would compensate for the larger diameter front wheel, plus slightly taller tyre profile too.


I also imagine that while the new top-triple clamp appears to have a mild step in it, I know from experience that without dropping the legs overall by 20mm, you are in danger of the front 19" fender touching the radiator at full compression.

Therefore [and this is speculative until I've had a chance to pull the 2019 model front end apart], I imagine there has been a slight decrease in front travel - in the form of an internal bump stop - in combination to the modest drop on the new top triple-clamp - to ensure the fender does not hit the radiator.

Together with the slightly revised seat foam, that would equate to the 20mm increase in seat height, rather than any more...

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #99 on: November 09, 2018, 04:57:30 PM »
Honda Canada just put out this quick video on the new model.

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