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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #230 on: January 10, 2019, 09:38:22 PM »
As has been said many times before... this bike is intentionally designed for high torque and limited HP to be compliant with the A2 licensing limit in some countries.  So, no, Honda is not going to tweak it for more HP.  They did up the torque, but not the HP so as to stay within the A2 limits.  If you must have more HP then this is not the bike for you.
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« Reply #231 on: January 10, 2019, 10:43:43 PM »
*Originally Posted by dereck74 [+]
65 horse power were out of the question from a 471 c.c. engine.

Spoke wheels are not necessary and perhaps not desirable on a mild adventure bike like this.

On the contrary, adjustable pegs would have been desirable, IMHO.

Not really. The 450cc Dakar bikes are making 70hp+. Our bikes dyno in the low 40s from what I've seen. Oyabun has made a custom cam and slightly skimmed/ported head (IIRC it raises compression about half a point to what the asian market CB400X has, so it's pump gas friendly). Those two + an IXIL catless header and a tune should be good for around 55whp+. Others on the CBR500R forum have done aftermarket cams, slight compression bump, catless exhaust, etc. in various combinations and some of those bikes put out around 55whp. Oyabun's combination will be in line with that group, if not a little higher. From what I understand the bike is in nearing the final stages of assembly.

So 55whp with 10% driveline loss = about 60 hp at the crankshaft, which is as they would rate it from the factory. "65hp" is not impossible.

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #232 on: January 11, 2019, 12:29:04 AM »
*Originally Posted by SnowOwl [+]
As has been said many times before... this bike is intentionally designed for high torque and limited HP to be compliant with the A2 licensing limit in some countries.  So, no, Honda is not going to tweak it for more HP.  They did up the torque, but not the HP so as to stay within the A2 limits.  If you must have more HP then this is not the bike for you.
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« Reply #233 on: January 11, 2019, 01:28:30 PM »
*Originally Posted by CB-500-X [+]
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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #234 on: January 11, 2019, 02:38:10 PM »
Yeah if you want a more powerful CB500X you're basically looking at a V Strom 650.

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« Reply #235 on: January 11, 2019, 04:43:48 PM »
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Yeah if you want a more powerful CB500X you're basically looking at a V Strom 650.

I felt my 2005 650 strom was a bit of a boat. If I was stepping up into a larger bike, but not full liter, I would probably go with the Tiger 800. More power than the 650, more ground clearance and 21" front wheel option. Also, the inline triple, from my experience, is easier to work on than the V engine configuration. The weight is similar on the two bikes if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #236 on: January 11, 2019, 06:20:50 PM »
What we need is a 650 twin with about 70bhp, top notch suspension, spoked 18/21 wheels (or 17/19), seat height no more than 830mm, wet weight of 200kgs, decent dash but no fancy modes/electronic suspension and made by Honda! Not bothered about super long travel suspension or lots of ground clearance, seat height, low weight and manageability are more important.

If Honda made something like that I'd pay 10k for it any day. I'll probably have to compromise and get a 2019 with Rally Raid wheels and suspension though!!

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« Reply #237 on: January 11, 2019, 06:27:28 PM »
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
What we need is a 650 twin with about 70bhp, top notch suspension, spoked 18/21 wheels (or 17/19), seat height no more than 830mm, wet weight of 200kgs, decent dash but no fancy modes/electronic suspension and made by Honda! Not bothered about super long travel suspension or lots of ground clearance, seat height, low weight and manageability are more important.

If Honda made something like that I'd pay 10k for it any day. I'll probably have to compromise and get a 2019 with Rally Raid wheels and suspension though!!

You've basically described the new Yamaha 700 Tenere there Japes...

I don't know why everyone [on the internet] is obsessed with every manufacturer making exactly the same thing as another manufacturer does - especially when that manufacturer already does the thing they do well?

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #238 on: January 11, 2019, 06:30:51 PM »
*Originally Posted by JMo [+]
I don't know why everyone [on the internet] is obsessed with every manufacturer making exactly the same thing as another manufacturer does - especially when that manufacturer already does the thing they do well?

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #239 on: January 11, 2019, 06:56:28 PM »
Jenny, I did initially think the Tenere might be an option but it's way too high for me. I use my bikes off road but suspension quality is more important than long travel to me and a low seat height even more so. My long term off road tool has 18/21 wheels, weighs 165kgs and has a seat height of 770mm. It's been to places no Tenere, GS, AT, or CB-X could ever get. Unfortunately it's only got 18bhp and a top speed of 60mph with a tail wind so it's a bit restrictive for long journeys!!

I'll definitely give the Tenere a look over but I'm a bit of a Honda fan and I really liked my CB-X. The updated model has a lot of the improvements I wanted so there is a good chance I'll go for one and wait for the RR upgrades. I also have a hankering for the new Triumph Street Scrambler but I realise that is even more faux off road than the CB!

 


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