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Offline Sulina_77

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #450 on: March 22, 2019, 08:58:42 AM »
Since I am lowering the bike by 3cm, I think I will opt for a hydrolic jack rather than a centre stand to avoid this issue. A hydrolic jack will come cheaper and can be used on other bikes too, whilst the centre stand will have to be cut and welded to meet the new height. I think I am one of the first customers of Lust Racing links for 2019, these links help me with my 29inch inseam.

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #451 on: March 22, 2019, 10:33:11 PM »
*Originally Posted by japes1275 [+]
UKU has it just about spot on. There isn't much choice if you want a bike that weighs less than 200kgs, reasonable seat height, has a 19" front wheel and possibility of spoked wheels, decent luggage options and some off road capability but still good for cruising at 70-80 mph. Add in the excellent fuel economy and reasonable price and the CB500X is about as good as it gets.

The other option I have is the 2019 Triumph Street Scrambler but it's 50% more money, is probably less capable off road and has no weather protection. Plus I've got a garage full of classic Triumphs so a faux classic seems a bit pointless!! As has been pointed out no bike is perfect so it's all about finding the one with the least compromises, it will probably be that the 2019 X has the least compromises for me.

I am following this question with interest as I am 6'2" & 34 inseam and don't feel very comfortable on my 18MY, specially the distance from pegs to handle bar. Even with 35mm raiser and pivoting pegs. The pegs are too much backwards.

It is too soon for a change, because my bike has just 13 months and 3000km, so a huge loss in a trade in. Eventhough I visited my dealer and tried (just sitting on) the 19MY and basically is the same (ergonomically). Unwisely I tried also the standard AfricaTwin. It is a perfect fit.  May be next year....It makes more sense than a change for a MY19.

In this quest for the right bike I am each day more interested in the Yamaha Tenere T7. It promises weight bellow 200kg, 88 seat height ( :019:), a proper suspension, a bulletproof motor, spoked wheels.... And a price below 10.000, that's close to a fully rallyraided cb500x.

Does someone more experienced has opinion on the T7? Is it a contender for this segment, or is it aimed totaly different?



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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #452 on: March 23, 2019, 03:41:25 AM »
*Originally Posted by Mobydick [+]
I am following this question with interest as I am 6'2" & 34 inseam and don't feel very comfortable on my 18MY, specially the distance from pegs to handle bar. Even with 35mm raiser and pivoting pegs. The pegs are too much backwards.

It is too soon for a change, because my bike has just 13 months and 3000km, so a huge loss in a trade in. Eventhough I visited my dealer and tried (just sitting on) the 19MY and basically is the same (ergonomically). Unwisely I tried also the standard AfricaTwin. It is a perfect fit.  May be next year....It makes more sense than a change for a MY19.

In this quest for the right bike I am each day more interested in the Yamaha Tenere T7. It promises weight bellow 200kg, 88 seat height ( :019:), a proper suspension, a bulletproof motor, spoked wheels.... And a price below 10.000, that's close to a fully rallyraided cb500x.

Does someone more experienced has opinion on the T7? Is it a contender for this segment, or is it aimed totaly different?

No, the Tenere 700 is a different motorcycle. Its competition to the KTM 790 Adventure. These two stand alone as around 200kg weight with proper OEM offroad equipment from mainstream manufacturers.

The ones that I see compete with the 2019 CB500x are the Kawaski Versys X 300 and Suzuki V-Storm 650.
All three are road base motorcycles with similar wheel travel and 19/17 wheels.  BUT, they all have different engine power, weights, size and prices (The 2019 CB500X landing in the middle of it all).

Check out Knight Designs lower/wider CB500X foot pegs. It advertised to lower the footpegs by 32mm. RR have mentioned they are developing lowering footpegs. May work for you or at least buy you time while you decide on what bike you should get.

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #453 on: March 23, 2019, 10:17:24 AM »
I drove past North West Honda in Blackpool yesterday but decided not to call in then I wasn't tempted by the 19 model as I don't really  ride the one I've got enough!!
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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #454 on: March 23, 2019, 01:07:29 PM »
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
No, the Tenere 700 is a different motorcycle. Its competition to the KTM 790 Adventure. These two stand alone as around 200kg weight with proper OEM offroad equipment from mainstream manufacturers.

The ones that I see compete with the 2019 CB500x are the Kawaski Versys X 300 and Suzuki V-Storm 650.
All three are road base motorcycles with similar wheel travel and 19/17 wheels.  BUT, they all have different engine power, weights, size and prices (The 2019 CB500X landing in the middle of it all).

Kickerto, I'm not sure I agree with this, but only because I read the question as comparing the Tenere 700 to a Rally Raid version of the 500X. By that comparison, the two could be seen as competitors as legitimate off-road capable adventure bikes. The key differences on that basis is a more powerful engine for the Tenere versus longer range for the 500X.

What seems to be of most interest to Mobydick is the seat height. The Tenere's is 88cm, and the 2019 500X is 83cm (but might be more with the Rally Raid kit, once released). For comparison, the previous 500X model was 81cm.

The Tenere has a bigger engine and a 16 litre fuel tank, whereas the 500X carries 17.5 litres of fuel. Given the famously frugal 500X engine, it would be reasonable to assume a noticeable difference in range.

I don't think that all the specs have been released for the 700, but we do know that the engine is taken from the MT-07, so we can guess about 56Kw (75 hp) versus the 34Kw (47 hp) for the 500X. Tenere has 68Nm of torque, and the 500x 43Nm. The front and rear wheels are 21" and 19" respectively, opposed to the 500X with a 19" and 17" wheel set.

Oh yes, and the Tenere looks totally badass.

Hope that's of some help.  :002:
« Last Edit: March 23, 2019, 01:08:31 PM by uku383 »
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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #455 on: March 23, 2019, 01:12:54 PM »
Tenere 700 looks great, are they feasible as all weather road/commuter bikes?
« Last Edit: March 23, 2019, 01:13:38 PM by Applecorp »

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #456 on: March 23, 2019, 03:24:19 PM »
*Originally Posted by Applecorp [+]
Tenere 700 looks great, are they feasible as all weather road/commuter bikes?

Both the T700 and the 790, to me, appear to be more dirt than road biased overall. The 21/18 wheel package, narrow one piece seat and minimal front plastic section, amongst other things, seem to push those bikes in that direction.

I recently watched a video from a journo that attended the Morocco launch event of the KTM and his evaluation made the most sense. The KTM is a "Ready to Race" machine, as per their motto, and a bike like that begs to be thrashed. It's rally inspired. For a road tourer, he said the BMW 850 is a much more logical bike, for ergos, comfort and relaxed nature.

My guess is that the T7 will be in the same category as the 790.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2019, 03:25:29 PM by ThirtyOne »

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #457 on: March 23, 2019, 10:27:58 PM »
Well, my first love was the L3 rally raid cb500x, and the culprits are Jenny and Juan and their magnificent videos. That's why I chose the 500x over the NC750x. I would like to go light off road (just light) so my bias towards rallyraid, beside the mean looks.
I am sure that the problem is my size, not the CB500x. The L2 RR CB500x is tempting, its seat height should be fine, but its ergonomics are the same as original. Finally, the conversion cost (+bike) is basically the same as expected for the T7, with the additional advantage of a stronger motor (for T7).
I sat on BMW f750gs and didn't like it. It feels much longer, even comoared with Africa Twin, and of course, too much expensive.

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #458 on: March 24, 2019, 12:22:32 PM »
*Originally Posted by Mobydick
I am following this question with interest as I am 6'2" & 34 inseam and don't feel very comfortable on my 18MY, specially the distance from pegs to handle bar. Even with 35mm raiser and pivoting pegs. The pegs are too much backwards.

It is too soon for a change, because my bike has just 13 months and 3000km, so a huge loss in a trade in. Eventhough I visited my dealer and tried (just sitting on) the 19MY and basically is the same (ergonomically). Unwisely I tried also the standard AfricaTwin. It is a perfect fit.  May be next year....It makes more sense than a change for a MY19.

In this quest for the right bike I am each day more interested in the Yamaha Tenere T7. It promises weight bellow 200kg, 88 seat height ( :019:), a proper suspension, a bulletproof motor, spoked wheels.... And a price below 10.000€, that's close to a fully rallyraided cb500x.

Does someone more experienced has opinion on the T7? Is it a contender for this segment, or is it aimed totaly different?

Same geometry, same worries :). Long ride comfort is very high on my priority list. I had a chance to sit on few bikes during the Dublin motorcycle show earlier this month. CB500x still worries me in terms of long ride comfort due to pegs being pushed too much backwards. Same as you. NC750x felt a bit better, albeit not by huge margin. Tiger 800 was great, the best was VStrom 1000, but this is in the Africa Twin territory already... Surprisingly VStrom 650 did not feel too much different with this regard than CB500x. It was my first choice before I sat on it but after I sat on it, it is not any more. And dare I say Benelli TRK 502x (however not on the show but in the dealership in Cork) was as perfect to my legs as the VStrom 1000 was, hence still a food for a though...
« Last Edit: March 24, 2019, 12:28:54 PM by PiotrL »

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Re: 2019 CB500X
« Reply #459 on: March 24, 2019, 02:10:45 PM »
Definitly there is no single bike that answers to our check list.
We should have ant least two bikes on the fleet. :152:

 


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