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Re: New 2019 CB500X - New Parts
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2019, 05:12:32 PM »
Any one have a time line on when we might see some info on the 2019 RR kits? I just ordered a 2019 CB and am hoping I can get a bash guard.

Also has anyone in Canada purchased RR? How long does it take to get the parts after ordering?
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Re: New 2019 CB500X - New Parts
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2019, 05:09:30 AM »
*Originally Posted by Marv_ [+]
Interesting! I might wait for the new version of the engine guard to come out. I'm guessing you won't have to unbolt the rear of the guard to access the oil sump plug, just remove the alu center section.

I'm probably hoping in vain, but it would be great if the new version allowed the center stand to be retained....

*Originally Posted by catstevecam [+]
+1 for being able to keep the OEM stand with a revised engine guard

+3, wasn't to keen with the idea of unbolting frame bolts for maintenance (stripping bolt or introducing grime). Also being able to have the center stand makes other maintenance easier.

*Originally Posted by Jonathan [+]
If you get a short length of hydraulic hose made up with a straight thru' connector on the sump plug end and a re-sealable fitting on the other, you won't have to remove the plate to drop the oil...I mentioned this to RR a month or two back as a potential 'kit'

Drainzit makes them to order..eg.


The hose idea is great but not the plug being at the end. Hydraulic hoses are super tough but there still a lot of hose to damage

A metal valve with built in open/close lever and hose attachment is better... still you need access to the lever

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Re: New 2019 CB500X - New Parts
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2019, 06:37:24 AM »
*Originally Posted by skidooboy [+]
Any one have a time line on when we might see some info on the 2019 RR kits? I just ordered a 2019 CB and am hoping I can get a bash guard.

Also has anyone in Canada purchased RR? How long does it take to get the parts after ordering?

Hi Skidooboy - if you follow the Rally-Raid Facebook page, you'll see John has already been trying on all the current accessories, plus has had the new forks apart all ready... the bike is going off to TracTive at the end of next week to have the revised rear suspension specification finalised.

As soon as they are in a position to start batch production of parts, then you'll hear it here and everywhere else too I'm sure - tentatively I'd say you are looking towards the end of April for the accessories and suspension, and the spoked wheels to follow soon after.

Note. Once the specification of the new RR parts has been finalised, I'm sure John will be explaining what you can expect here in a dedicated '2019' thread in the Vendor section, and I'll be revising the FAQs to reflect the changes and differences between the current 2013-18 models and the 2019-on.

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Re: New 2019 CB500X - New Parts
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2019, 06:57:53 AM »
*Originally Posted by kickertwo [+]
+3, wasn't to keen with the idea of unbolting frame bolts for maintenance (stripping bolt or introducing grime). Also being able to have the center stand makes other maintenance easier.

The hose idea is great but not the plug being at the end. Hydraulic hoses are super tough but there still a lot of hose to damage

A metal valve with built in open/close lever and hose attachment is better... still you need access to the lever

fumoto oil valve


Hi Kickertwo (and Marv) - to clarify, you do not have to remove any bolts to change the oil once the [current design] Rally-Raid engine guard has been fitted, you simple loosen the forward engine-mount bolts a couple of turns, and the pull out the pin at the rear that secures the guard to the centre-stand tube, and the whole assembly pivots down so you can access the drain plug - the instructions are on the Rally-Raid website.



Not only is it very simple, but you only have to do this every 8000 miles on a CB500X of course.

That said, the revised design will make the fitting (and subsequent maintenance) procedure more simple, and I trust will eliminate the problems some owners have had getting things to line up when initially fitting the guard.


With regard to the incompatibility with a centre-stand (the explanation is in the FAQs) - essentially the tube where the centre stand mounts is the strongest location for the rear of the tubular cradle engine guard, which is why John chose that as the mounting point for his design. The limited space around the rear of the engine and the suspension linkage mount means is not possible to produce a sufficiently strong rear mounting bracket that would allow our design of engine guard to fit, and therefore a compromise we were not willing to make - since the RR design if foremost about protecting the bottom of the engine from any impact damage.

In addition, the LEVEL 2 suspension is too tall for a centre-stand to work anyway (again, a more detailed explanation is in the FAQs) - plus on a bike with comparatively limited ground clearance, neither John nor I consider a permanently mounted centre-stand appropriate for a bike that is likely to be used more seriously off-road; coupled with the fact there are a number of other  [transferable] solutions on the market that would allow you to lift either the front or rear wheel for maintenance and puncture repair, something which typical dual-sport riders employ - for example the EnduroStar Trail-Stand and BikeMaster Lift-Stick to name two.

If you want a centre-stand [and I appreciate some people do], then there are other makes of skid-plate available that can be modified to fit with the centre-stand in place, which could well be sufficient if outright [off-road] protection is not your priority.

Hope that helps!

Jenny x
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Re: New 2019 CB500X - New Parts
« Reply #24 on: March 06, 2019, 08:03:22 AM »
Hi Jenny,

Thanks for taking the time to write that up! All makes complete sense now...and as ever with you and John at RR, everything has been designed and considered with a logical and pragmatic approach (which is great!)

I think I'm going to have to make the trip to RR HQ at some point this year to ride a demo bike, as I flutter between wanting L1 and L3 seemingly every other day  :008:

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Re: New 2019 CB500X - New Parts
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2019, 03:36:55 PM »
Does anyone know if the 2019 seat fit the 2013-2018 ? 

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Re: New 2019 CB500X - New Parts
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2019, 08:05:50 PM »
*Originally Posted by JMo [+]
Hi Kickertwo (and Marv) - to clarify, you do not have to remove any bolts to change the oil once the [current design] Rally-Raid engine guard has been fitted, you simple loosen the forward engine-mount bolts a couple of turns, and the pull out the pin at the rear that secures the guard to the centre-stand tube, and the whole assembly pivots down so you can access the drain plug - the instructions are on the Rally-Raid website.



Not only is it very simple, but you only have to do this every 8000 miles on a CB500X of course.

That said, the revised design will make the fitting (and subsequent maintenance) procedure more simple, and I trust will eliminate the problems some owners have had getting things to line up when initially fitting the guard.


With regard to the incompatibility with a centre-stand (the explanation is in the FAQs) - essentially the tube where the centre stand mounts is the strongest location for the rear of the tubular cradle engine guard, which is why John chose that as the mounting point for his design. The limited space around the rear of the engine and the suspension linkage mount means is not possible to produce a sufficiently strong rear mounting bracket that would allow our design of engine guard to fit, and therefore a compromise we were not willing to make - since the RR design if foremost about protecting the bottom of the engine from any impact damage.

In addition, the LEVEL 2 suspension is too tall for a centre-stand to work anyway (again, a more detailed explanation is in the FAQs) - plus on a bike with comparatively limited ground clearance, neither John nor I consider a permanently mounted centre-stand appropriate for a bike that is likely to be used more seriously off-road; coupled with the fact there are a number of other  [transferable] solutions on the market that would allow you to lift either the front or rear wheel for maintenance and puncture repair, something which typical dual-sport riders employ - for example the EnduroStar Trail-Stand and BikeMaster Lift-Stick to name two.

If you want a centre-stand [and I appreciate some people do], then there are other makes of skid-plate available that can be modified to fit with the centre-stand in place, which could well be sufficient if outright [off-road] protection is not your priority.

Hope that helps!

Jenny x

Just did an oil change on the bike for the first time since ownership and went through the procedure above to access the sump under the RR bashguard. I noticed that mine doesn't swing down that far because one of the tabs at the front that holds the shield touches the header, preventing it from pivoting that much. I thought about bending it some, but it needs about 5-8mm clearance. It's a little more than I want to move it. I was able to access the plug, but I would say I got about half of room to work with.

Curious as to whether anyone else has that issue or maybe I can rotate my header some. Haven't played with the exhaust since receiving the bike.
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Re: New 2019 CB500X - New Parts
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2019, 01:57:40 PM »
Good news for those riders interested in the new, slimmer seat on the 2019 model, in that it's a straight swap onto the older models, I tried ours today from our '19 model onto a '14, no problems.
The only other problem we have found is that the BarkBuster Fat Bar handguards don't fit tightly into their end of the OEM fat bars because they are thinner wall steel, rather than thicker aluminium, but we will be contacting Barkbusters in Australia to see if they can offer a 2019-specific kit for the OEM steel Fat Bars.

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Re: New 2019 CB500X - New Parts
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2019, 08:15:11 PM »
All the 2019 specific parts are now on the Rally-Raid Products web-shop, including the latest addition - a 2019-model specific Scorpion Serket Taper exhaust (pn. RRP-738), which on the 2019 model actually saves a little more weight than before (as the 2019 OEM silencer is slightly heavier than the 2016-18 version).





The 2019 specific exhaust saves just over 4lbs (1.85Kg) compared to the stock item; and like all Scorpion exhausts benefits from the 50% damage guarantee from Scorpion themselves (if you damage the exhaust they will exchange it for 50% of the cost of a new one, plus shipping at your cost).

Not only does it save a significant amount of weight, but it is also far less bulky and physically large compared to the OEM silencer - offering more heel clearance and making it far more appropriate for off-road use; while the exit itself is angled rearwards to provide plenty of clearance for soft luggage above.

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Re: New 2019 CB500X - New Parts
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2019, 09:59:15 PM »
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Just had word from Rally Raid that decals will likely be available. I asked specifically about heritage graphics for the Pearl White model, and they think they will produce a set. Here's a dirty mock-up of what one might look like. Anyone handy with photoshop here to do a nicer mock up of what that might look like?



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