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Offline Stosskraft

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Re: 500x on European Trip
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2019, 01:55:18 AM »
Thank you for all the offers, it will be great to get to meet locals and do some riding with you guys. I think the dealerships in the UK can help me registering the bike and the address... I have a friend in Liverpool who might let me use there address.

For the 500x I am thinking of going Givi on it, though I am not stuck on anyone brand. These are the mods I am thinking about:

1. Givi side cases like this : http://giviusa.com/givi-products/cases/monokey-cases/trk33bpack2a-set-of-2-trk33b-detail   . I know luggage is personal but I prefer plastic construction if possible and I will keep them attached to the bike 90% of the time. I would love these: https://cariboucases.com/Side-Luggage-for-Givi-Racks/25-Liter-Pelican-Side-Luggage-Panniers-for-Givi-Monokey-Racks.html but they seem expensive for what they are. If I was building the bike myself I would purchase the cases on ebay and mount them myself.

2. Givi center stand, engine guards and skid plate. I am guessing it is easier for fitment to get them all from one manufacture? I also love the SW motech stuff, but it can get expensive.

3. Storm Barkbusters,

4. Comfort seat.. if needed.

** 5. If budget allows Rally Raid suspension level 1... I am a shorty and cannot raise the ride height and I think the upgraded suspension will help the ride overall and help make adjustments to offset the extra weight.

So this is what I am thinking for making the 500x into a touring machine. I won't be using a top box just a waterproof 35-40 L bag on the passenger seat for additional storage.

I would love to get your feedback on this possible set up.

** If anyone here makes it to Ottawa let me know. I have a spare room and a garage for motorcycle storage :)

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Re: 500x on European Trip
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2019, 02:21:16 AM »
*Originally Posted by Stosskraft [+]
Hello all,

By the end of this year or early next year I am planning on doing a big trip from England to Russia and then into SE Asia. I will be quitting my job and I plan on taking a slow approach and seeing a lot of what each country has to offer and exploring what is out there. I don't really have a time limit but I am thinking roughly 1 year for the trip.

I am a Canadian living in Ottawa, but due to changes in my person circumstances I will be selling my house to fund the trip and with the plan to relocate in SE Asia once I am done the trip. Because of this, I am planning to fly to the UK and purchase a Honda CB500X for the trip (half RTW?) and get it kitted out before leaving. I will not be bringing the bike back to Canada, so it will stay in SE Asia or sold once the trip is fiinished.

One of my many questions: Is the UK the best place to buy a used CB500x? Some others have mentioned Germany also, but in the UK I think it will be easier and cheaper to find more used motorcycles and getting the paper work done ( I will be on an international license) and navigating the buying process should be easier because of the language. Any ideas on this? I am guessing that Brexit will also have an effect that is unknown at the moment.

Thanks all, I will make another post about the bike specific questions, this forum has been great on researching the 500X and what options I will need. I was also considering the Versys 300x and Himalayan but I feel the added power of the Honda and size will be a little better rounded for me. I am currently riding a Kawaski Z900 RS and will be selling it to help buy the next bike, shipping a bike from Canada seem too expensive and not worth it at the moment.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
No shortage of good used Xs in the UK. If you're starting your trip in the UK, the bike will have to be road legal, ie Vehicle Excise Duty (commonly referred to as "Road Tax"), a current MoT certificate if over 3 years old (basic roadworthiness compliance valid for 12 months), insured (basic 3rd party liability) and registered at a UK address.

When you buy a used bike in the UK you'll receive a chit from the seller which you then send off to the DVLA. who in turn will send you a V5 ("Log Book") in your name & postal address. This means that legally speaking you are now the registered keeper of said vehicle...

here's a little aside that not many UK owners are aware of...having applied for and received the V5 certificate, you have effectively entered into a contract whereby you have waivered legal ownership of the vehicle to the DVLA. On the document you are known as  the registered keeper, not the owner...the reason for this is so that the DVLA, Police etc. can take your vehicle off you at any time and it doesn't constitute theft, which it would do under Common Law....very snakey these government types :211:

you may well have a 'Bill of Sale' but this just proves that you bought and paid for it
« Last Edit: March 23, 2019, 02:25:32 AM by Jonathan »

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Re: 500x on European Trip
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2019, 08:37:58 AM »
Theres a website here called Newsnowclassifieds, this seems to have all of eBay, autotrader and gumtree ads under one heading. Worth a look.
  Yep, definitely need an address even to send your DVLA and insurance to.
 Givi are are a good make of extras. But you may find there is a decent low mileage second hand bike that has all or most of the extras on it.
  Bike seat is a bit on the hard side, but an airhawk may help or a sheepskin which I found doubled up as a pillow when covered with a towel.....just keeps volume of stuff down.
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Re: 500x on European Trip
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2019, 05:49:15 AM »
Hi and looking forward to hearing more of your journey.
I am a Brit living in Portugal but a friend I visit in the UK allows me to use his address.
I bought my 16 CB in the Uk with low mileage,about 3000 miles with topbox and heated grips for 4000.It is mint and service history.
I have fitted an air seat pad and ridden 2000 kms in three days without discomfort and am nearly 70 years old.The beauty of the bike is also the frugal fuel consumption.
I have no personal experience of this but you may want to ask others on here about the Givi engine bars I think setting up a vibration when fitted,check on this as I may be wrong but sure I read some reports about it.The bike as it comes is very smooth.
You may with doing that kind of trip find that a chain oiler could be beneficial.
We are in Portugal and have garage space and plenty of tools should you or any other forum members even need them if you venture this far south.
Good luck.
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Re: 500x on European Trip
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2019, 04:28:19 PM »
I would not have a bike without a top box. It's just so convenient for your helmet/shopping though not both at once. Safe too, not everyone in Europe is honest. And it rains here.
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Re: 500x on European Trip
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2019, 08:36:11 PM »
Just to bung options at you as obviously I think your choice of bike is good....Air Canada do a very cost effective bike freight service and if you have a foreign reg bike in Europe then Dooby  at the link below can sort insurance. Have an awesome trip .  http://www.lobagola.com/

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Re: 500x on European Trip
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2019, 08:39:22 PM »

"Givi center stand, engine guards and skid plate. I am guessing it is easier for fitment to get them all from one manufacture?"

I put the Givi engine guard on my 2016, and everything fit perfectly. I did sandwich a rubber washer in at all mounting points just in case, and have no vibration from them. I've ridden 3000+ miles so far with them on.
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Re: 500x on European Trip
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2019, 08:49:24 PM »
Hi Stosskraft - before you commit to buying a bike in the UK (as a non-resident) do join/poke around on the Horizons Unlimited website/forum as Marv suggested on the previous page...

The issue you will have as has already been highlighted, is that as a non-resident, while you can technically buy a bike and get it registered in your name at a[ny] UK address - a friend, family member or friendly CB500X.com inmate etc. - the issue you will have is trying to obtain insurance as a non-resident and non-UK licence holder.

Basically the UK insurance industry doesn't make it easy for anyone other than an UK/EU licence holder with a permanent UK address.

Fortunately as a foreign licence holder, you can obtain short-term insurance cover through Adrian Flux Insurance in the UK - either on your own or a borrowed bike in the UK. This is not especially cheap, but ought to cover you for the period you are in the UK.

Once you get to mainland Europe, the German Automobile Association (via Knopf Tours or a similar agent) seems to be the best underwriter for a EU-wide policy - that ought to see you as far as the eastern European countries etc. where you'll then have to arrange insurance independently at each subsequent boarder I imagine.

The other person you might want to contact is a guy based in Ireland (wheatwhacker on ADVrider) who specialises in sourcing UK based bikes for US and Canadian riders, including getting insurance cover for them - and can even store bikes for people who want to fly-ride on their own bikes from time to time:

https://motofeirme.com

https://www.facebook.com/motofeirme/

Buying in Ireland has all the language benefits of the UK (well, mostly ;o), plus you can get European-wide insurance - which also covers the UK - there, and enjoy a pint or two too.  Southern Ireland (especially the south west) would be a great way to start your trip, and definitely ought to be included as part of your British Isle itinerary regardless of where you end up buying your bike/s.

Hope that helps...

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Re: 500x on European Trip
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2019, 09:03:54 AM »
Just a daft point, if you buy a UK bike it'll have a UK lighting system, set up to drive on the left.  You can alter it, but you could avoid this by buying in Europe.  :084:

I can also confirm that getting insurance for a non-UK resident is difficult - I had to hunt around, and pay way more than I expected, to get insurance for my New Zealand son-in-law to ride here in Scotland.  :173:

Still, it's all part of the adventure!!  :152:
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