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Offline Ohio Rider

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How much discount for last year's model?
« on: April 22, 2019, 05:18:59 PM »
I'm looking at a new 2018 motorcycle.  (Not a Honda, but this is the only motorcycle forum I belong too)

The dealership is now listing the bike at $700 off (about 9%) of the regular retail price.  (the original 2018 price...not the new and more expensive 2019 price)

Is this in line with normal reductions for previous year's unsold models?  I can't find anything on the internet that tells me about new or upgraded features for the 2019 model.  So it looks like the 2018...along with it's price reduction....could be the better deal.  I plan on holding onto this bike for a while.  (not planning on selling it in a few years)

Thanks

« Last Edit: April 22, 2019, 05:20:36 PM by Ohio Rider »

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Re: How much discount for last year's model?
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2019, 11:01:59 PM »
*Originally Posted by Ohio Rider [+]
I'm looking at a new 2018 motorcycle.  (Not a Honda, but this is the only motorcycle forum I belong too)

The dealership is now listing the bike at $700 off (about 9%) of the regular retail price.  (the original 2018 price...not the new and more expensive 2019 price)

Is this in line with normal reductions for previous year's unsold models?  I can't find anything on the internet that tells me about new or upgraded features for the 2019 model.  So it looks like the 2018...along with it's price reduction....could be the better deal.  I plan on holding onto this bike for a while.  (not planning on selling it in a few years)

Thanks

There's quite a bit of information about the new model on the forum, just read through the first few pages:

https://www.cb500x.com/index.php/topic,7878.0.html

Quick summary:

New styling
New windscreen
LED turn signals at 4 corners
Handlebar updated from 7/8s to a fatbar (top yoke has a step in it a la Rally Raid style)
19 front wheel. Overall 10mm taller than outgoing model
New color dash with gear position indicator, engine temp, etc.
Slipper clutch and IIRC 40% reduction in lever pull (much lighter)
New rear swingarm (easier to adjust chain tension with this updated system)
Revised engine camshafts for something like 10% more torque throughout the midrange. I don't remember the quoted specifics.
Some small frame geometry changes as well.

To me, the 2019 model is worth a $700 upgrade from the 2018 if I was buying brand new.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2019, 11:05:38 PM by ThirtyOne »

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Re: How much discount for last year's model?
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2019, 11:49:42 PM »
I'm seeing 2018 models for under $5k at some dealers... 'cause I've been looking at them as well. Who knows what kinds of fees they'll try to tack on. BUT... if you're not in a hurry, come Oct/Nov last year's models will go for crazy low prices. Finding a CBX then might be tough though. You can probably do better than $700 off the price however.

I agree... the 2019 model improvements are fantastic. If you plan on doing any Rally Raid upgrades, it becomes less of an issue.

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Re: How much discount for last year's model?
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2019, 11:58:33 PM »
the advice above is good, but not relevant since you're not looking at a Honda-as you stated.
Try an offer of 1100 lower and see what they say
then stand firm on a thousand. You'll likely get it.

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Re: How much discount for last year's model?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2019, 01:27:45 AM »
Ha... I missed the not a Honda) detail... that needs a bit of narrowing down then I suppose  :187:

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Re: How much discount for last year's model?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2019, 04:18:19 AM »
Need to know what bike your looking at to get a good answer
It's not a big motorcycle just a groovy little motorbike

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Re: How much discount for last year's model?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2019, 04:55:01 AM »
*Originally Posted by AmbientMoto [+]
Ha... I missed the not a Honda) detail... that needs a bit of narrowing down then I suppose  :187:

Missed that detail too. Ooops. Solid advice about pressing for a grand off. I think that'll make a difference.

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Re: How much discount for last year's model?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2019, 12:47:04 PM »
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
Need to know what bike your looking at to get a good answer

It's a 2018 Kawasaki Versys 650.

It shares a lot of details/style/purpose with the Honda CB500X, but the new 2019 500X's are not in dealerships, and dealerships can't tell me when they're going to get them in.  Several dealerships have used the phrase 'limited release'. Honda also raised the price for the 2019 models.  So if I could get $1000 off the Kawasaki, it would put it about $100-200 dollars more than the new 2019 CB500X.

I also can't find any upgrades/improvements for the 2019 Versys 650's.  So it seems the 2018 is pretty much the same bike.

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Re: How much discount for last year's model?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2019, 03:55:17 PM »
*Originally Posted by Ohio Rider [+]
It's a 2018 Kawasaki Versys 650.

It shares a lot of details/style/purpose with the Honda CB500X, but the new 2019 500X's are not in dealerships, and dealerships can't tell me when they're going to get them in.  Several dealerships have used the phrase 'limited release'. Honda also raised the price for the 2019 models.  So if I could get $1000 off the Kawasaki, it would put it about $100-200 dollars more than the new 2019 CB500X.

I also can't find any upgrades/improvements for the 2019 Versys 650's.  So it seems the 2018 is pretty much the same bike.
All I can say is think real hard-- I just sold a 2016 Versys 650- bike before that was a 500X never did warm up to the Versys had it for 2 years always compairing it to the 500X-- Versys top heavy- high seat- extra weight-slanted seat and the worst part was the transmission never missed a gear but always thought that trans was better off on a tractor- so now I'm waiting for the 2019 500X- can't think of one thing the Versys did better than the 500X and mine was a 2014 so with all the up grades only going to be better
It's not a big motorcycle just a groovy little motorbike

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Re: How much discount for last year's model?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2019, 04:05:13 PM »
*Originally Posted by motorboy [+]
All I can say is think real hard-- I just sold a 2016 Versys 650- bike before that was a 500X never did warm up to the Versys had it for 2 years always compairing it to the 500X-- Versys top heavy- high seat- extra weight-slanted seat and the worst part was the transmission never missed a gear but always thought that trans was better off on a tractor- so now I'm waiting for the 2019 500X- can't think of one thing the Versys did better than the 500X and mine was a 2014 so with all the up grades only going to be better

Thanks.  I know the 650 is a little more top heavy.  But the seat height is only .4 inches taller. In my internet travels, it seems to come down to this:  The Versys 650 is a little better for longer travels, the 500X is a little better for urban/city and off road.  (These are just generalizations...both bikes are highly regarded in the ADV category.)  And as I am discovering I want to do some traveling, the Versys 'could' make slightly more sense.
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